The Continuing Media Blackout Of Ron Paul

How to lie with technically-accurate charts, via Partial Objects:

CBS reports the results of the Suffolk University Poll for the NH Primary. Ron Paul came in second, as evidenced by this graphic.

I don’t like Ron Paul, but you can’t help but shudder when you see this happening. Journalists remind us they need and deserve unfettered access in order to give the public the truth, but evidently they need the access to decide what should be true.

The excuse for this omission is that Ron Paul is not a viable candidate despite his early popularity, and that’s a fair guess; but it’s a lie. Huntsman, Palin, and Bachmann never stood a chance, and yet they were given plenty of coverage. Why do I still know the name Dick Gephardt?

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  • Eric_D_Read

    Given the dismissal of Ron Paul as a nut by the major media outlets; I have to question critics who say that his policies would lead to absolute corporate control of society (as if they don’t already have that).
    If his policies would be that much of a giveaway to big business, why do they hate him so much?

    • Liam_McGonagle

      It’s a matter of ineffectiveness, not of whether Paul’s “heart is in the right place” so to speak. 

      In the absence of a suitably empowered counter-institution, the plutocracy will kick it in overdrive.

      The guy actually holding the gun can be reliably expected to win the fight.

    • Jin The Ninja

      Because the monopolies that currently exist, are aroused by the fascist nature of government and business collusion. In Ron Paul`s market place, which is by the way, is another form of corporatocracy, business will have to change tactics, innovate new ways to exploit the population- and one thing they hate is change. it is simply that they are very content with the current system. all rand leads to rome.

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        Their foundations are so shaky right now, that the metaphorical earthquake that ron paul would be might actually cause it to crumble. Some people think it can’t be fixed and would rather watch it all burn.

        • Jin The Ninja

          i think i may be in that camp. as it were.

          • MadHierophant

            Seconded. You can’t reform a cancer. 

          • Eric_D_Read

            Have gasoline. Will travel.

          • TheRoofIsOnFire

            In this case, your gasoline is your vote…please feel free to throw it on the fiery movement (see, I resisted the urge to use the much over-hyped r-word) which Ron Paul represents :-)

          • Jin The Ninja

            if you think your vote actually matters, feel free to throw it in the’ fire’ -literally or figuratively, it means about the same.

            no major or even 3rd party candidate can amend a broken system if said system was broken at conception.

      • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        Ninja Please!

        • Jin The Ninja

          only speaking truth 2 power.

      • Eric_D_Read

        Even if you can’t stand Ron Paul’s positions other than on foreign policy and then prohibition of some drugs, he does shed a light on those who preach the gospel of the free market yet don’t actually believe in it.

        • Jin The Ninja

          double post.

        • Jin The Ninja

          it’s not that i can’t stand his policy, i ACTUALLY find his policy very interesting from several perspectives. what i can’t stand is reliance on the free market to cure social ills derived from capitalist ideology in the first place/and-or reliance on ‘constitutionality’ to preserve rights which were only amended after it’s initial codification (referring to civil rights here, but applicable to other things), and patriarchs whom had no conception of modern politics or true democracy.

          as a left-libertarian, there is a LOT i can appreciate, but at the same time, there is a lot i fear from it also.

    • Mr Willow

      Probably because in his urge to shrink the government to the size of a quarter—eliminating just about every regulatory agency that would otherwise restrict a merger of all companies into one immense conglomerate, otherwise restrict them from polluting the air, water, food with all sorts of additives and chemicals, and otherwise restrict the drug companies from peddling even more harmful products to otherwise healthy people—he would also gut the colonialists’ precious military. 

      Lockheed Martin and Haliburton still need to get paid. 

      He would also stop supporting Israel, something AIPAC simply will not tolerate.

  • Anonymous

    Given the dismissal of Ron Paul as a nut by the major media outlets; I have to question critics who say that his policies would lead to absolute corporate control of society (as if they don’t already have that).
    If his policies would be that much of a giveaway to big business, why do they hate him so much?

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Not that I don’t have some serious reservations about Paul, but I suspect it’s mostly a reflection of the irrelevance of mainstream media.

    How could Paul have come in a relatively strong 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in New Hampshire if mainstream media meant a g*ddamned thing?

    Everyone’s wired to their own social media networks 24/7 thesedays.  Otherwise marginal and under-funded outlets can have an effect out of proportion to their funding in these fragmented media environments.

    I don’t own a television, and I don’t think that really sets me apart as an oddball any more.  There may be many compelling reasons to regard my opinions as out of the mainstream, but not having my finger on the pulse of Katie Couric, Willard Scott and the gang at the Today Show is not one of them.  Assuming Katie or Willard are still alive.  I think the last time I caught even a glimpse of those programmes was the Clinton administration.  I doubt anyone under 40 has even heard of those names.

    Which is not to suggest that Paul has particularly good odds on South Carolina.  Yeah, they all proclaim themselves to be outraged by the plastic inauthenticy and “un-christian” character of Willard Romney, but you can count on the Deep South to phone in the plutocrat every time.  A guy like Paul, who actually recommended legalizing prostitution, doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell there.

    • TheRoofIsOnFire

      I, like you, do not own a TV and get most of my news through the internet. But how many people are like us? I have to wonder how many rely on Faux News and the likes of CNN/MSNBC as their main sources of (dis)information? It would be interesting to see those numbers…

  • Anonymous

    Not that I don’t have some serious reservations about Paul, but I suspect it’s mostly a reflection of the irrelevance of mainstream media.

    How could Paul have come in a relatively strong 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in New Hampshire if mainstream media meant a g*ddamned thing?

    Everyone’s wired to their own social media networks 24/7 thesedays.  Otherwise marginal and under-funded outlets can have an effect out of proportion to their funding in these fragmented media environments.

    I don’t own a television, and I don’t think that really sets me apart as an oddball any more.  There may be many compelling reasons to regard my opinions as out of the mainstream, but not having my finger on the pulse of Katie Couric, Willard Scott and the gang at the Today Show is not one of them.  Assuming Katie or Willard are still alive.  I think the last time I caught even a glimpse of those programmes was the Clinton administration.  I doubt anyone under 40 has even heard of those names.

    Which is not to suggest that Paul has particularly good odds on South Carolina.  Yeah, they all proclaim themselves to be outraged by the plastic inauthenticy and “un-christian” character of Willard Romney, but you can count on the Deep South to phone in the plutocrat every time.  A guy like Paul, who actually recommended legalizing prostitution, doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell there.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a matter of ineffectiveness, not of whether Paul’s “heart is in the right place” so to speak. 

    In the absence of a suitably empowered institution, the plutocracy will kick it in overdrive.

    The guy actually holding the gun can be reliably expected to win the fight.

  • Jin (仁)

    Because the monopolies the currently exist, are aroused by the fascist nature of government and business collusion. In Ron Paul`s market place, which is by the way, another form of corporatocracy, business will have to change tactics, innovate new ways to exploit the population- and one thing they hate is change. it is simply that they are very content with the current system. all rand leads to rome.

  • Anonymous

    Whom ever crafted and published that poll pic excluding Ron Paul needs to be publicly tarred and feathered.  If you want to suppress votes and usurp freedom of choice then you need to be held accountable.

  • Anonymous

    Whom ever crafted and published that poll pic excluding Ron Paul needs to be publicly tarred and feathered.  If you want to suppress votes and usurp freedom of choice then you need to be held accountable.

  • anonoped

    Whom ever crafted and published that poll pic excluding Ron Paul needs to be publicly tarred and feathered.  If you want to suppress votes and usurp freedom of choice then you need to be held accountable.

    • DeepCough

      Well, first we would have to hold George W. Bush and his brother Jeb accountable for stealing the general election of 2000 before we do anything else.

      • anonoped

        Don’t dally in the past. Seize the day and make today count.  You can’t change the past, only prepare for your future and live in the present.  Learn from your past to shape your future.

        • DeepCough

          Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it today AND tomorrow. Try to keep that in mind.

          • http://twitter.com/prosperhappily Robert S

            Learn from the past.  But, don’t chase your losses.  Focus on today’s goals. 

          • DeepCough

            You think it might be a tumah–but IT’S NOT A TUMAH.

          • Alucard_the_last

            This is being done in regard to Iran.  The world did nothing to stop the nazi’s and look what happened.

    • postpunkprometheus

      Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

      • anonoped

        Passing on the ‘crazy’ moniker against Ron Paul is the same type of mentality of a racist. 

        Nothing Ron Paul has done is crazy or deemed crazy.  He’s a medical Dr., Congressman, Veteran, Constitutionalist, and much more.

        You should apologize.

        While the Free Press is for profit they have a responsibility as the Fourth Estate to report to the people what the government is doing.  The Founders laid this out and also proposed punishments for the Press that sells itself to corruption.  Treason was one punishment.  While that may be a tad strong it may be warranted.  I’ve heard some people say reporters caught propagandizing instead of reporting should lose a hand.  Now that’s extreme.

        Do yourself a favor and stop letting the MSM indoctrinate you out of your Freedom and into enslavement.  Google Ron Paul on Youtube and watch some of the videos of him speaking.  Your anger at the MSM will rise but you’ll see that only you are responsible and you can begin to do something about it.

        • postpunkprometheus

          The mentality of a racist is to hate someone because of the way they were born, not by the content of their character.  If that is the case then I cannot help the fact that Ron Paul was born crazy. 

          Crazy people might be good people & have the right to run for president, but it doesn’t mean that have any business running for president.  

          And his list of accomplishments do not necessarily indicate the quality of his character. 

          http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/

          There are other wieners that are or were running for President beside Ru Paul (that is never not funny BTdubs).  Don’t really hear you speaking up for them, only for Ru.  Anyways, no, I will not apologize for Ron Paul being a crazy old coot.  That’s what Ron Paul supporters are for.

          I await your apology. I mean reply.

          • anonoped

            Your delusion is interesting.

            If you don’t see it then you’re too far gone.

          • postpunkprometheus

            Apology, if not the apologist, accepted.  As predicted.

          • anonoped

            Like I said.  Delusional you are.

      • Paul

        I think u live in a dream state. Go about your small life while the economic structure of the US falls around u. You probably won’t notice though. You’ll be busy watching dance with the stars or some stupid shit. Wake up to reality. It’s tough medicine but if it’s not taken, there will be no future as u know it now.

        • postpunkprometheus

          Look.  I am trying to stay alive long enough to get a job in the Shadow Government.  Hoping for something in the Department of Weather Prognostications.  I want to work within the groundhogs shadow of the Shadow Government.  Ha!

          Seriously I’m hoping for something with “Dancing with the Stars”. 

          Use of fear mongering talk like “there will be no future as u know it(who are u, Prince?) is no different than what politicians do.  All of ya’ll have miles, or Shadow Government parlance, kilometers, of growing up to do. 

      • Alucard_the_last

        You are a fool who needs the media to think for you.

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      Agreed.  America has become overrun with corruption at so many levels.  Would love to see sworn officers arresting known corporate and war criminals.  Justice will be served one way or the other, Universal law doesn’t budge for any man.

  • Lovethisguy

    I just want some radical change. Ron Paul seems like the guy to do it.  Everyone makes up these elaborate excused on why they wont vote for him yet his and your enemies are one in the same. There is an old Arabian proverb ; The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is something you should think about when you vote.  

  • Lovethisguy

    I just want some radical change. Ron Paul seems like the guy to do it.  Everyone makes up these elaborate excused on why they wont vote for him yet his and your enemies are one in the same. There is an old Arabian proverb ; The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This is something you should think about when you vote.  

    • Guest

      Say nothing for his stance against women, immigrants, unions, etc…

    • Hadrian999

      that proverb is why we supported the taliban, al qeida, and saddam hussain, look how well that turned out

      • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        Don’t blame it on the aphorism.  Double dealing is level one of “elite” level of manipulation.  If you believe in ending the wars alone you should vote for Ron Paul.  If you believe the patriotic act should be completely removed and the Constitution restored you should Vote for Ron Paul.  If you believe in Liberty whatsoever you should vote for Ron Paul.  

        • Hadrian999

          and if you believe any of that I have this great bridge to sell you

          • TheRoofIsOnFire

            Paul was asked about executive orders and said he would use them – as he felt it was constitutionally appropriate to do so – to bring home ALL of the troops, asap. So yes, I believe that would be his honest intention. However, I fear he would have an “accident” (old man dies in his sleep) before those who control the military-industrial complex would ever let that happen. But he is a man of his word and I have not seen or heard or read a single thing that would make me doubt his integrity. 

  • Anonymous

    …and this is EXACTLY why I am voting for him.

  • Peetr

    …and this is EXACTLY why I am voting for him.

    • Jarel

      Same here!

  • Mr Willow

    Probably because in his urge to shrink the government to the size of a quarter—eliminating just about every regulatory agency that would otherwise restrict a merger of all companies into one immense conglomerate, otherwise restrict them from polluting the air, water, food with all sorts of additives and chemicals, and otherwise restrict the drug companies from peddling even more harmful products to otherwise healthy people—he would also gut the colonialists’ precious military. 

    Lockheed Martin and Haliburton still need to get paid. 

  • Dueyv9

    If the media ignores you, it’s because you are telling the truth. Plain and simple.

  • Dueyv9

    If the media ignores you, it’s because you are telling the truth. Plain and simple.

    • Andrew

      Every single person who lies is covered by the media?

  • Gu3r0281

    RON PAUL!!!!!!! WHERE IS HE AT!!!

  • Gu3r0281

    RON PAUL!!!!!!! WHERE IS HE AT!!!

  • Tibus Heth

    He’s too honest for our media. He might have some crazy ideas, but he’s not going to lie about having them. He might give people ideas about thinking for themselves as well, especially among Republicans.

  • Tibus Heth

    He’s too honest for our media. He might have some crazy ideas, but he’s not going to lie about having them. He might give people ideas about thinking for themselves as well, especially among Republicans.

  • Redacted

    He’s too honest for our media. He might have some crazy ideas, but he’s not going to lie about having them. He might give people ideas about thinking for themselves as well, especially among Republicans.

    • Andrew

      Why do you think he wouldn’t lie about them?

  • http://twitter.com/KounterPoint Arkad

    Elections are rigged. Do you need any more proof?

  • http://twitter.com/KounterPoint Arkad

    Elections are rigged. Do you need any more proof?

  • Simiantongue

    I got two John Stewart videos that hilariously addresses the Ron Paul media blackout. Let me preface this by saying I’m not a Paul supporter. But still it’s damn interesting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe705dz37PQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5aGgQXhXo

  • Simiantongue

    I got two John Stewart videos that hilariously addresses the Ron Paul media blackout. Let me preface this by saying I’m not a Paul supporter. But still it’s damn interesting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe705dz37PQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5aGgQXhXo

  • DeepCough

    Well, first we would have to hold George W. Bush and his brother Jeb accountable for stealing the general election of 2000 before we do anything else.

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Most news organizations are profit driven.  Ron Paul is crazy old shit bag & is somehow still too boring for prime time television.  If you are going to be mad at someone/something be mad at the free market. The one Ron Paul wants more of.  If it gets him off of my TV maybe it’s not so bad.  Irony’s a bitch, innit?

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    Lets do some stupid math:

    100-(43+9+7+6) = 35% for ron paul ish
    but what about the margin of error

    100-(39+5+3+2) = 51% maximum
    100-(47+13+11+10) = 19% minimum

    Silly math of course(doubtful all the margins all would go to ron paul), but if someone wanted to create a lie using a margin of error this is a way of dispelling it. At best he’s got a majority, and at worst he’s still got a higher % than gingrich huntsman and smelly santorum.

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    Lets do some stupid math:

    100-(43+9+7+6) = 35% for ron paul ish
    but what about the margin of error

    100-(39+5+3+2) = 51% maximum
    100-(47+13+11+10) = 19% minimum

    Silly math of course(doubtful all the margins all would go to ron paul), but if someone wanted to create a lie using a margin of error this is a way of dispelling it. At best he’s got a majority, and at worst he’s still got a higher % than gingrich huntsman and smelly santorum.

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    Their foundations are so shaky right now, that the metaphorical earthquake that ron paul would be might actually cause it to crumble. Some people think it can’t be fixed and would rather watch it all burn.

  • Jarel

    Same here!

  • Anonymous

    I was watching the local news the Wednesday after the NH primaries and the “political correspondent” mentioned Romney winning and then went into a long commentary about how good it was for Huntsman to get third. And then he spent a couple of minutes talking about how 3rd place in NH is really a huge accomplishment at this stage in the process. Never, not once, mentioned who took 2nd.

    I mean, we all know that the media sucks and is in the pockets of certain people. But there comes a point where it’s so blatantly obvious. These people just whip out their bullshit and lay it on the table like a freshly poached sea lion. At least have some shame for crying out loud.

  • senorchupacabra

    I was watching the local news the Wednesday after the NH primaries and the “political correspondent” mentioned Romney winning and then went into a long commentary about how good it was for Huntsman to get third. And then he spent a couple of minutes talking about how 3rd place in NH is really a huge accomplishment at this stage in the process. Never, not once, mentioned who took 2nd.

    I mean, we all know that the media sucks and is in the pockets of certain people. But there comes a point where it’s so blatantly obvious. These people just whip out their bullshit and lay it on the table like a freshly poached sea lion. At least have some shame for crying out loud.

  • Jarel

    Google: Bain Capital owns Clear Channel

  • Jarel

    Google: Bain Capital owns Clear Channel

  • Sabina lokic

    CBS is becoming worse than fox news

  • Sabina lokic

    CBS is becoming worse than fox news

  • Guest

    Say nothing for his stance against women, immigrants, unions, etc…

  • Jin (仁)

    i think i may be in that camp. as it were.

  • Anonymous

    Seconded. You can’t reform a cancer. 

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Ron who?

  • BuzzCoastin

    Ron who?

  • Hadrian999

    that proverb is why we supported the taliban, al qeida, and saddam hussain, look how well that turned out

  • BrushMyTeeth

    Great article. I especially enjoy the part where the author claims that Viacom does not own any mainstream media outlets, and that Jon Stewart stands in opposition to media giants.

  • BrushMyTeeth

    Great article. I especially enjoy the part where the author claims that Viacom does not own any mainstream media outlets, and that Jon Stewart stands in opposition to media giants.

  • Honu

    Another absurd example of the designs of the people pulling the strings in the media.  I could almost understand if it was general pre-primary media favoritism but this is egregious considering Paul’s showing.  It’s amazing to me how it seems the winner has already been chosen based on the coverage.  The non chosen ones are there to give the impression that this is a democratic process. 

    I’ll never forget Howard Dean’s scream at the end of his loss in Iowa which, when I saw it, came off as maybe a bit over excited but hardly the psychopathic framing the media ran with in the days that followed.  Compared to the idiocy and bizarre behaviour of other candidates, that was pretty tame.  It wound up being Dean’s undoing and it was the harping by the media which apparently already decided who was going to be the primary winner, that put the nail in his coffin.

  • Honu

    Another absurd example of the designs of the people pulling the strings in the media.  I could almost understand if it was general pre-primary media favoritism but this is egregious considering Paul’s showing.  It’s amazing to me how it seems the winner has already been chosen based on the coverage.  The non chosen ones are there to give the impression that this is a democratic process. 

    I’ll never forget Howard Dean’s scream at the end of his loss in Iowa which, when I saw it, came off as maybe a bit over excited but hardly the psychopathic framing the media ran with in the days that followed.  Compared to the idiocy and bizarre behaviour of other candidates, that was pretty tame.  It wound up being Dean’s undoing and it was the harping by the media which apparently already decided who was going to be the primary winner, that put the nail in his coffin.

  • Anonymous

    If the guy is polling comparatively well then he should be included. No argument. 

    On another note, in history these Republican Primaries will be referred to as “The Swivel-Eyed Primaries of 2012″, when the swivel-eyed loons of America finally reached critical mass and set off a thermonuclear chain reaction of insanity, faulty logic, non sequiturs, and dodgy assumptions.

  • MrSta

    If the guy is polling comparatively well then he should be included. No argument. 

    On another note, in history these Republican Primaries will be referred to as “The Swivel-Eyed Primaries of 2012″, when the swivel-eyed loons of America finally reached critical mass and set off a thermonuclear chain reaction of insanity, faulty logic, non sequiturs, and dodgy assumptions.

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Definitely voting for him, campaigning and whatever else I can muster.  NDAA, The FED, Ending War.  Paul is the only candidate even addressing these issues with any sincerity or integrity.

  • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

    Definitely voting for him, campaigning and whatever else I can muster.  NDAA, The FED, Ending War.  Paul is the only candidate even addressing these issues with any sincerity or integrity.

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Agreed.  America has become overrun with corruption at so many levels.  Would love to see sworn officers arresting known corporate and war criminals.  Justice will be served one way or the other, Universal law doesn’t budge for any man.

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Ninja Please!

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Don’t blame it on the aphorism.  Double dealing is level one of “elite” level of manipulation.  If you believe in ending the wars alone you should vote for Ron Paul.  If you believe the patriotic act should be completely removed and the Constitution restored you should Vote for Ron Paul.  If you believe in Liberty whatsoever you should vote for Ron Paul.  

  • Camron Wiltshire

    My sentiments exactly!  

  • Hadrian999

    and if you believe any of that I have this great bridge to sell you

  • Anonymous

    Have gasoline. Will travel.

  • Anonymous

    Even if you can’t stand Ron Paul’s positions other than on foreign policy and then prohibition of some drugs, he does shed a light on those who preach the gospel of the free market yet don’t actually believe in it.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t dally in the past. Seize the day and make today count.  You can’t change the past, only prepare for your future and live in the present.  Learn from your past to shape your future.

  • Anonymous

    Passing on the ‘crazy’ moniker against Ron Paul is the same type of mentality of a racist. 

    Nothing Ron Paul has done is crazy or deemed crazy.  He’s a medical Dr., Congressman, Veteran, Constitutionalist, and much more.

    You should apologize.

    While the Free Press is for profit they have a responsibility as the Fourth Estate to report to the people what the government is doing.  The Founders laid this out and also proposed punishments for the Press that sells itself to corruption.  Treason was one punishment.  While that may be a tad strong it may be warranted.  I’ve heard some people say reporters caught propagandizing instead of reporting should lose a hand.  Now that’s extreme.

    Do yourself a favor and stop letting the MSM indoctrinate you out of your Freedom and into enslavement.  Google Ron Paul on Youtube and watch some of the videos of him speaking.  Your anger at the MSM will rise but you’ll see that only you are responsible and you can begin to do something about it.

  • henrychalder

    Being English I haven’t much of a clue of American politics but recently I heard Ron Paul talking on BBC radio 4. I was impressed by his clarity, common sense and wisdom. I assume Ron Paul is getting on a bit but he seemed quite energised and is appealing to the younger generation. I find it puzzling that this politician isn’t getting more coverage?

  • henrychalder

    Being English I haven’t much of a clue of American politics but recently I heard Ron Paul talking on BBC radio 4. I was impressed by his clarity, common sense and wisdom. I assume Ron Paul is getting on a bit but he seemed quite energised and is appealing to the younger generation. I find it puzzling that this politician isn’t getting more coverage?

  • Jin (仁)

    only speaking truth 2 power.

  • TheRoofIsOnFire

    In this case, your gasoline is your vote…please feel free to throw it on the fiery movement (see, I resisted the urge to use the much over-hyped r-word) which Ron Paul represents :-)

  • TheRoofIsOnFire

    Paul was asked about executive orders and said he would use them – as he felt it was constitutionally appropriate to do so – to bring home ALL of the troops, asap. So yes, I believe that would be his honest intention. However, I fear he would have an “accident” (old man dies in his sleep) before those who control the military-industrial complex would ever let that happen. But he is a man of his word and I have not seen or heard or read a single thing that would make me doubt his integrity. 

  • TheRoofIsOnFire

    I, like you, do not own a TV and get most of my news through the internet. But how many people are like us? I have to wonder how many rely on Faux News and the likes of CNN/MSNBC as their main sources of (dis)information? It would be interesting to see those numbers…

  • Jin (仁)

    it’s not that i can’t stand his policy, i ACTUALLY find his policy very interesting from several perspectives. what i can’t stand is reliance on the free market to cure social ills derived from capitalist ideology in the first place/and-or reliance on ‘constitutionality’ to preserve rights which were only amended after it’s initial codification (referring to civil rights here, but applicable to other things), and patriarchs whom had no conception of modern politics or true democracy.

    as a left-libertarian, there is a LOT i can appreciate, but at the same time, there is a lot i fear from it also.

  • Jin (仁)

    it’s not that i can’t stand his policy, i ACTUALLY find his policy very interesting from several perspectives. what i can’t stand is reliance on the free market to cure social ills derived from capitalist ideology in the first place/and-or reliance on ‘constitutionality’ to preserve rights which were only amended after it’s initial codification (referring to civil rights here, but applicable to other things), and patriarchs whom had no conception of modern politics or true democracy.

    as a left-libertarian, there is a LOT i can appreciate, but at the same time, there is a lot i fear from it also.

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    The mentality of a racist is to hate someone because of the way they were born, not by the content of their character.  If that is the case then I cannot help the fact that Ron Paul was born crazy. 

    Crazy people might be good people & have the right to run for president, but it doesn’t mean that have any business running for president.  

    And his list of accomplishments do not necessarily indicate the quality of his character. 

    http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/

    There are other wieners that are or were running for President beside Ru Paul (that is never not funny BTdubs).  Don’t really hear you speaking up for them, only for Ru.  Anyways, no, I will not apologize for Ron Paul being a crazy old coot.  That’s what Ron Paul supporters are for.

    I await your apology. I mean reply.

  • Anonymous

    Your delusion is interesting.

    If you don’t see it then you’re too far gone.

  • DeepCough

    Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it today AND tomorrow. Try to keep that in mind.

  • Paul

    There is something rotten here people. It’s like Ron Paul doesn’t exist to the media. I smell something dreadfully wrong. Does anyone else feel like a sleep to the slaughter programmed by the media. We need more Ron Paul’s.

  • Paul

    There is something rotten here people. It’s like Ron Paul doesn’t exist to the media. I smell something dreadfully wrong. Does anyone else feel like a sleep to the slaughter programmed by the media. We need more Ron Paul’s.

  • Paul

    I think u live in a dream state. Go about your small life while the economic structure of the US falls around u. You probably won’t notice though. You’ll be busy watching dance with the stars or some stupid shit. Wake up to reality. It’s tough medicine but if it’s not taken, there will be no future as u know it now.

  • Andrew

    Why do you think he wouldn’t lie about them?

  • Andrew

    Every single person who lies is covered by the media?

  • Paul

    I am totally shocked and repulsed by the blackout of Ron Paul. Is this a free society?

  • http://twitter.com/prosperhappily Robert S

    Learn from the past.  But, don’t chase your losses.  Focus on today’s goals. 

  • Andrew
  • http://twitter.com/prosperhappily Robert S

    There is an establishment. They want to maintain & tighten control.  The mainstream media is a big part of that establishment.  It’s function is to  (mis)inform & distract people.  It helps shape opinions that favor that establishment. 

    Ron Paul, on the other hand, wants to promote freedom.  The establishment doesn’t want that.  They don’t want people exploring the ideas of liberty.  If they caught on, the establishement’s power and wealth would diminish. 

    So, they media will ignore him and do everything they can to attempt to discredit them. 

    Fact is, Ron Paul is a legitimate candidate.  I don’t expect him to win the nomination, much less the presidency.   But, he’s a legitmate candidate.  And, the media’s attempts to stifle him show their lack of credibility. 

  • http://twitter.com/prosperhappily Robert S

    There is an establishment. They want to maintain & tighten control.  The mainstream media is a big part of that establishment.  It’s function is to  (mis)inform & distract people.  It helps shape opinions that favor that establishment. 

    Ron Paul, on the other hand, wants to promote freedom.  The establishment doesn’t want that.  They don’t want people exploring the ideas of liberty.  If they caught on, the establishement’s power and wealth would diminish. 

    So, they media will ignore him and do everything they can to attempt to discredit them. 

    Fact is, Ron Paul is a legitimate candidate.  I don’t expect him to win the nomination, much less the presidency.   But, he’s a legitmate candidate.  And, the media’s attempts to stifle him show their lack of credibility. 

  • DeepCough

    You think it might be a tumah–but IT’S NOT A TUMAH.

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Apology, if not the apologist, accepted.  As predicted.

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Look.  I am trying to stay alive long enough to get a job in the Shadow Government.  Hoping for something in the Department of Weather Prognostications.  I want to work within the groundhogs shadow of the Shadow Government.  Ha!

    Seriously I’m hoping for something with “Dancing with the Stars”. 

    Use of fear mongering talk like “there will be no future as u know it(who are u, Prince?) is no different than what politicians do.  All of ya’ll have miles, or Shadow Government parlance, kilometers, of growing up to do. 

  • Anonymous

    Like I said.  Delusional you are.

  • Okarin

    ron paul is a revolution and it didn’t get televisied

  • Okarin

    ron paul is a revolution and it didn’t get televisied

  • Jin (仁)

    if you think your vote actually matters, feel free to throw it in the’ fire’ -literally or figuratively, it means about the same.

    no major or even 3rd party candidate can amend a broken system if said system was broken at conception.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McConnell/563448640 Michael McConnell

    The media also blacks out Michael Savage.  He is number 3 in talk radio without any form of advertisment.  As for Ron Paul, he has the right answers so of course he is going to be ignored.  He is the only politican who wants to bring our troops home from out 70 year stay in Europe.  He is also against the police being made into a form of revenue for the state.  Their job is fighting crime, not looking for anyway possible to give us a fine.

  • Alucard_the_last

    The media also blacks out Michael Savage.  He is number 3 in talk radio without any form of advertisment.  As for Ron Paul, he has the right answers so of course he is going to be ignored.  He is the only politican who wants to bring our troops home from out 70 year stay in Europe.  He is also against the police being made into a form of revenue for the state.  Their job is fighting crime, not looking for anyway possible to give us a fine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McConnell/563448640 Michael McConnell

    This is being done in regard to Iran.  The world did nothing to stop the nazi’s and look what happened.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-McConnell/563448640 Michael McConnell

    You are a fool who needs the media to think for you.

  • discoverespect

    Why is Jacob Sloan’s opinion that Ron Paul is not a viable candidate?

  • Allenvcox

    Honesty, Integrity,Consistancy, Transparency & Re-instatement of Constıtution  what more would an American Vote for?

  • Voodooinkseattle

     Of course madmonq. For example, it’s bat shit crazy to want to do something like eliminate the EPA. Why would we cut the heaviest pollution regulation in the world?  Pollution is bad, mkay?  On the other hand, it’s undeniably absolutely relative to the economic state of a super power. Take China’s economy for instance.  One of the strongest in the world.  You can’t deny that a chinese company just bought AMC theatres. Why would we sell them such a huge money maker? It’s kind of like we’re getting desperate or something. The fact is the EPA puts very expensive red tape on everything productive we can do with our own countries resources.  Get rid of that, and we can effectively and inexpensively tap into our own resources, which will immediately bring the price of oil down for instance.  We may even be able to afford to manufacture goods  and employ a couple million people.  Why do you think we outsource so much work to other countries?  Because it’s cheap. They don’t have the red tape we do, so they can manufacture goods without having to buy billion dollar smoke stacks for their plants for example.  Our environmental regulation is a great incentive to move our work to say, china, where frankly speaking, they don’t give a damn. The result is, we feel better about leaving a smaller carbon footprint, but really, we didn’t we just moved our pollution over there.  Same effect- same hole in the ozone. But we did successfully pass the buck however. Literally.  They have our buck.  This is just one of ron paul’s  “crazy” Policies.  You’re right madmonq it’s far less crazy to spend trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to secure somebody else’s resources, and lose trillions of dollars in revenue to china while letting them openly infiltrate our businesses.  When they do own everything in america, do you think they’re not gonna cut the red tape and tap into our resources?  I would if I owned america. It would be crazy not to. You can’t have it both ways. you can’t compete with a global market of superpowers without doing a little work and making a footprint. Go obama! Save the whales!

    • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

      Sooo we should lift all regulations (in the presumption that all business interests want to move back), bringing the problem of deadly polution (for example & at the least) back home.  If the market isn’t addressing the problems of ground level mercury for children to play in China, why the fuck do you think it’ll get solved over here?  China doesn’t give a damn (for now) true, but we do so America is the problem?  Where ever you grew up must have had lots of ground level mercury for you to play in because it shows in your ability to reason.   

  • http://madmonq.wordpress.com madmonq

    Yoda you are.