The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend With John Taylor Gatto

“Whatever an education is, it should make you a unique individual, not a conformist; it should furnish you with an original spirit with which to tackle the big challenges; it should allow you to find values which will be your road map through life; it should make you spiritually rich, a person who loves whatever you are doing, wherever you are, whomever you are with; it should teach you what is important: how to live and how to die.” — John Taylor Gatto, Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling


  • Dirtgrain

    I have his book “An Underground History of American Education.”  Sadly, much of the information in the book lacks citations.  That doesn’t mean what he says it wrong, but I won’t take his word for it.

    • Camron Wiltshire

      I think it is good you choose not to take anyone’s word for it.  Obviously this is not what those involved with the above interview would desire for you.  They even state as much within the first 10 minutes, as they lay out the scope and purpose of the ensuing material.

      Here are source notes on the talk posted above.  Also have you made any effort to ask for citations on any of the material in question with either John Taylor Gatto or  I’m sure they would be happy to help you track down any particular sourcing requests you may have.  Ultimate History Lesson Hour 1, minutes 1 -15 (approx.):Shield of the Trinity (on Wikipedia)Classical Trivium + 7 Liberal Arts (on Wikipedia)George Orwell (on Wikipedia)(Book) “Nineteen Eighty-Four” by George Orwell (1984) (on Wikipedia)Newspeak (on Wikipedia)Walter Lippmann (on Wikipedia)(Book) “Public Opinion” by Walter Lippmann (1922)Aristotle’s Logic (on Wikipedia)Aristotle (on Wikipedia)Dialectic (on Wikipedia)Five W’s (+ How) (on Wikipedia)(Document) Abraham Lincoln’s Speech Before the Wisconsin State Agricultural Society in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, September 30, 1859Mudsill Theory (on Wikipedia)British Class Structure / Social Structure of the United Kingdom (on Wikipedia)Vernon Louis Parrington (on Wikipedia)(Book) “Main Currents in American Thought” (Vol. I-III) by Vernon Louis Parrington (1927)Emancipation Reform in Russia (1861) (on Wikipedia)British Empire Slavery Abolition Act 1833 (on Wikipedia)Roundtable Discussion of minutes 1-15:(Book) “Social Science for Teachers” (Riverside textbooks in education, edited by E. P. Cubberley … Division on secondary education under the editorial direction of A. Inglis); “Education a process of adjustment.”Definition of Psittacism
      Find the complete list here

      Thanks for tuning in.

    • Jin The Ninja

      it’s my understanding that he does this deliberately (no citations, footnotes), because he does not want to come off as pedantic, nor is interested in the “professoriat’s” (his word not mine) german-derived methodological approach to research. since his critique is derived from the the educational structure of public education (the school as environment) it reasons that he would reconcile this disdain for mainstream research approaches by abandoning them.

      personally i really liked his book, “underground history of american education.” which was compulsory reading (lol) for a class i took on critical education, but the lack of footnotes, citations, makes it difficult to critique; however he has a very wide range of appeal for both left and right educators, which makes his work interesting in and of itself.

  • Anarchy Pony

    Human Resources. That is what the oligarchs and upper classes want us to be. Not Human Beings, just Human Resources. Just click Watch Online. Totally free.

    • Camron Wiltshire

      Thank you

    • Anarchy Pony

      Oddly enough, I always have to play Dead Space when I watch it. I don’t know why…

      • Jin The Ninja

        lol, i just started playing through the first game again… i just wish the animes were a bit better.

        • Anarchy Pony

          The supplemental movies? Yeah, they definitely could’ve been better

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