US Marines Urinating On Dead Afghans

This is the LiveLeak video (allegedly) showing US Marines pissing on dead members of the Taliban that has Afghanistan in an uproar. Semper Fi?

210 Comments on "US Marines Urinating On Dead Afghans"

  1. What a bunch of dumb-asses. 

  2. What a bunch of dumb-asses. 

  3. What a bunch of dumb-asses. 

  4. Arnie Stimpleton | Jan 12, 2012 at 3:35 pm |

    What a bunch of dumb-asses. 

  5. DeepCough | Jan 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm |

    You think War gives a fuck who it pisses on?

  6. DeepCough | Jan 12, 2012 at 3:46 pm |

    You think War gives a fuck who it pisses on?

  7. Anonymous | Jan 12, 2012 at 7:50 pm |

    What’s a poor Jarhead supposed do?  The Corps just banned farting in front of the live ones!
    http://digitaljournal.com/article/310782 

  8. Calypso_1 | Jan 12, 2012 at 3:50 pm |

    What’s a poor Jarhead supposed do?  The Corps just banned farting in front of the live ones!
    http://digitaljournal.com/article/310782 

  9. Did we expect less from people who want to be hired murderers?

  10. Did we expect less from people who want to be hired murderers?

  11. Video sponsored by LiveLeak, no less…

  12. Manic Doodlings | Jan 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm |

    Video sponsored by LiveLeak, no less…

  13. So is there any better evidence that this war has no point what so ever.  I mean for god sakes, we are pissing on dead people for fun.. Its that bad.

  14. So is there any better evidence that this war has no point what so ever.  I mean for god sakes, we are pissing on dead people for fun.. Its that bad.

    • truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 7:00 pm |

      the point of war is to DEHUMANIZE you. pissing on the dead means you have no respect for the living, as does torturing helpless animals. in fact the point of all this is so we start comparing people with animals, thereby dehumanizing ourselves in the process. it started with Darwin who, if you bother to look for yourself, was a eugenicist. he believed in killing off the poor and “unfit”. (nothing to do with evolving…) and it ends with carbon taxes, cause you’re made of carbon. you’re no longer a human, but rather just a collection of cells, organs, and chemicals… DEHUMANIZATION…
      Dehumanization is to make somebody less human by taking away his
      or her individuality, the creative and interesting aspects of his or her
      personality, or his or her compassion and sensitivity towards others. – wikipedia.
      putting on a uniform is the first step in dehumanizing you. you’re no longer an individual. you’re part of a collective. violence in thought, word, or action toward another living creature is the second step. respect for life means respect for ALL life. if you hurt or kill another you are actually hurting and killing yourself. and that’s all it takes. quite simple actually… we’ve all been dehumanized in one way or another…

      • > it ends with carbon taxes

        Because carbon taxes are worse than the genocide of the poor.

        • truth hurts | Jan 13, 2012 at 4:07 am |

          because the end result is the same…

          • Hardly.

          • truth hurts | Jan 14, 2012 at 12:09 am |

             really?… so taxing poor people to the eyeballs ISN’T a form of genocide? you should read more history… what happens when poor people can’t afford to eat, clothe themselves, heat their home, or have a home? they die, or they kill eachother. the method may be a bit slower, but i reiterate, they result is the same. carbon taxes will make the middle class poor, and make the poor class die off… and that’s the point of it. nothing to do with global warmi… i mean climate cha… i mean THE WEATHER.

          • I don’t want to get off the subject of the post for too long (hopefully that wasn’t your intent) but I want to correct a couple of your assumptions.

            Fist off, carbon taxes won’t affect the poor much, because the poor have, by far, the smallest carbon footprints.  Corporations will be the ones taxed most, and in this day of inordinately high CEO salaries, pensions, and severance packages, they can easily afford them without passing the costs on to customers.  That they compete for stock speculators’ dollars on Wall Street may be a problem, but financial reform can fix that without doing damage to basic capitalism (not finance capitalism, which probably has to go).

            Second, solar power is currently plummeting in price, so fossil fuels will no longer as “necessary” as they once were.

            Third, scientists know how greenhouse gasses react with the atmosphere, how much greenhouse gases we are emitting, and that the climate is changing.  The fact that we can’t “scientifically prove” 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 by putting the Earth through the last two centuries without industry as a control in a laboratory is not a reason to do nothing, and each of the three facts I mentioned above have been scientifically proven.  Carbon wouldn’t be so much of a problem if we hadn’t cut down so much of the land’s forests and killed off so much of the ocean’s plankton, severely reducing the Earth’s ability to sequester it.

      • Jin The Ninja | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:39 pm |

        i just wanted to mention that de-humanisation is an ongoing process involved in not only war or military ventures, but is the basis for much of the ideology behind colonisation/racism/imperialism/sexism/homophobia. it is about the identification of cultural difference as the ‘other’ and subsequently portraying the other as inhuman, immoral, exotic, (generally) anti-western or misanthropic. We live in a cultural of dehumanisation. what do people think reserves are for?

      • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 11:20 pm |

        oh wow i just said the same thing a minute ago up there, lol.

    • You are speaking the truth John, this war needs to be over several years ago.

  15. Simper fey.

  16. Simper fey.

  17. You people think this is bad? When I was there I witnessed children (15,16, 17 year old girls) being raped over and over again by fellow soldiers. Then woke up to the occasional rape victim hanging from something, suicide was their only way out.

    War is bad, pissing on people is nothing compared to what I have seen.   

  18. You people think this is bad? When I was there I witnessed children (15,16, 17 year old girls) being raped over and over again by fellow soldiers. Then woke up to the occasional rape victim hanging from something, suicide was their only way out.

    War is bad, pissing on people is nothing compared to what I have seen.   

    • gwen jackson | Jan 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm |

      you just hate america. we’re the good guys.

    • Let me get this straight. You witnessed fellow US Marines/Soldiers committing sexually violent crimes against minor female human beings? Please tell me you did more to help these girls than standing by and watching.

      P.F. Conces MM2 (ret.)

      • Jin The Ninja | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:45 pm |

        military violence generates sexual violence- as violence generally is based on the dehumanisation of ‘other’ cultures/peoples. because of the underlying veins of gender oppression (specifically against women and sexual minorities) in western culture – this lends itself to sexual violence against women.rape is about domination and power and very little to do with sexuality, and while it may be an unpopular statement to make i think logically there is a correlation between rape culture and the military

        • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 10:47 pm |

          Yes, the thing people forget about war is that you can’t dehumanize and abuse your enemy without first DEHUMANIZING YOURSELF in order to perpetrate the abuse.
          We can’t expect our soldiers to be dehumanized to the point where they can kill and brutalize a defenseless population without also being dehumanized to the  to the point that they think nothing of raping a refugee or fellow soldier. It’s not possible.
          Dehumanized is dehumanized, it doesn’t happen by degrees.

          That’s why i disagree with anybody who says we need to stop the war and bring the troops home. Fuck that. Sometimes I like to read military lawyers brag-sheets online, about all the crimes they’ve helped soldiers get away with, with no punishment, it’s some FUCKED UP shit.
          Do you want some fucked up gitmo torturer living next to you? Some guy who’s been doing house-to-house urban terror against civilians for ten years?
          The guys who get away with raping and murdering civilians or fellow soldiers, going to college with your daughter, dating her? I didn’t think so.
          Fuck it, send them to Iran.

          • Jin The Ninja | Jan 14, 2012 at 2:40 am |

            i don’t disagree. although i think iran has enough issues and would not need the additional pressure of an influx of imperialist ex soldiers.

      • Apathesis | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:58 pm |

        Seriously, I think I’d have to kill my fellow soldiers if I saw them raping little girls.

        • You might not feel that way after bootcamp (brainwashing through abuse).

          • Don’t forget the isolation from the outside world, controlled information, re-education, being stripped of identity and all the basic points made by
            Dr. Philip Zimbardo in his book “The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil.” 

            The military is one giant Standford Prison Experiment.

          • I agree completely.

        • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm |

          good point; the problem would be that there are more of them than you, and the chain of command works to protect the well-being of the MAJORITY of the troops, so you’d be fucked, most likely.

    • Apathesis | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:57 pm |

      Woah, woah, woah.  You were a soldier there and didn’t STOP IT!?

      • Jin The Ninja | Jan 12, 2012 at 9:54 pm |

        i am unsure if one person immersed in a culture of military and sexual violence can really stop this behaviour. look at the scandal hitting the australian navy right now, the ombudsman referred to naval vessels as “bully booze and rape society.” wow that sounds so honourable…

        • Wrong Jin, its called a request mast, congrent, or any of the numerous systems in place to handle problems like this.  I might add that people use them every day with success.  The reality is he is full of crap. 

          • Jin The Ninja | Jan 13, 2012 at 7:56 pm |

            “handling them with success” would imply the incidence of sexual violence within the military and perpetrated by it’s members would be on the decline- while the reverse is true. so in what way EXACTLY, was what i said wrong? Many times rape goes unreported. It’s again very simple. a culture of violence engenders sexual violence. point. blank. period.

          • Visit the nearest military Brigg and find thousands of prosecuted and convicted service members for all sorts of crimes, to include sexual harassment and assault.  You find more sexual assaults that go unreported at many of the Universities in the U.S. 

            For the last 6 years the military has put special emphasis on searching for and prosecuting sexual harassment/assuault, there are more convictions because they are doing everything they can to find it and stop it.  Female service members are among the nations most informed on who to report to and what to do if harassed or assaulted.  To the tune of weekly briefs and unit counselors, equal opportunity advocates ect, all with systems in place for anonymity.

          • Jin The Ninja | Jan 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm |

            oh bullshit.

          • You wouldn’t be mindlessly throwing out a baseless opinion would you?

            facts can be cited by either historical evidence or by academic discourse. citation please?

          • Jin The Ninja | Jan 17, 2012 at 1:35 am |

            I didn’t claim it as fact. Yes, the fact that it is bullshit is my opinion. My opinion, however, is based on an extensive knowledge of sexual violence via gender and women’s studies particularly of war time atrocities.

          • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 10:57 pm |

            Dude… the reality is that the military doesn’t even give a shit when it’s happening to their OWN women…

            http://www.disinfo.com/2011/10/the-u-s-militarys-sexual-assault-and-rape-epidemic/

            you remind me of…
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

            LOL.

    • Timmy L, I am officially calling you a liar.  Even if what you were saying was true, then you are a coward for not blowing the whistle on it, go play the “poor disturbed vet” somewhere else.

      • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 10:22 pm |

        in his defense, IF what this guy says is true (it could easily be anti-military hate-speech or could very well be true, i don’t doubt it happens, it happens in EVERY conflict at least a few times),
        military members who threaten to report the kind of abuse he described are routinely subject to abuse or murder themselves, sometimes even perpetrated BY their chain of command once they have reported it.
        Remember the Army wasn’t even going to prosecute Stephen Green or the guys who were killing farmers in Afghanistan, until it was leaked to the media; til then they worked only to punish the whistleblowers and send the perpetrators home with medals.

        Does anybody believe that the epidemic of military suicides are really all suicides?
        Too fucking easy, I think.

        The US military doesn’t even give a damn when their OWN female soldiers get raped and murdered (Private Johnson RIP, others); and they DAMN SURE don’t give a damn when it happens to female civilians from the ‘enemy’ (ha!) side.

        And now phase two of this experiment in terror is beginning: dehumanizing our soldiers enough to get them to come home and perpetrate these same crimes against their own people.
        Just you wait. Americans are about to get everything we deserve for having allowed these crimes to be committed against the middle east in our name; now it will be done to us, by our own forces. Sooner than you think, my friends.

        • Several vets have spoken at Occupy demonstrations.  Perhaps this video was released to help keep civilians and the military from uniting against the plutarchists.

        • “military members who threaten to report the kind of abuse he described are routinely subject to abuse or murder themselves, sometimes even perpetrated BY their chain of command once they have reported it.”
          First of all, it would be a grave mistake to “threaten” to report anyone. While the legal system is different for service members and civilians. There are 
          similarities. You wouldn’t walk into a judges chambers and report a crime you witnessed. Well, not only would you probably not do that in the military. It is HIGHLY frowned upon. Everyone has the right to see someone in “legal” (totally separate command) and report a crime. No chain of command involved. I have personal experience with this.  My recommendation as to things not to do:
          1. Don’t tell anyone in your immediate chain of command
          2. Don’t call the media (THEY DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST IN MIND)
          3. Do NOT put your video on YouTube. I can’t think of a faster way to put yourself in danger.

          • Every unit has a staff Judge Advocate.  At any given moment there are dozens of investigations occurring in Afghanistan over even the most justified engagements of enemy, hundreds across the military.  Criminal Investigative services in each branch, request mast that can be done that gives you immediate access up to the Secretary of the Navy ect.  If he didn’t report it, its because he cared more for himself than those he claims were victims, but I doubt he is telling the truth anyway.

  19. Evil Jake | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:48 pm |

    There dead.. Who cares! It’s like pissing on a tree stump. Unless there is some underlining religious BS that says it’s wrong to piss on dead people. Which I wouldn’t believe anyways.  

  20. Evil Jake | Jan 12, 2012 at 4:48 pm |

    There dead.. Who cares! It’s like pissing on a tree stump. Unless there is some underlining religious BS that says it’s wrong to piss on dead people. Which I wouldn’t believe anyways.  

    • Mr Willow | Jan 12, 2012 at 6:19 pm |

      It’s nice to know you wouldn’t mind people pissing on the graves of your relatives. 

      There is supposed to be a sense of honour amongst soldiers. This is an utter disgrace. 

      • Evil Jake | Jan 13, 2012 at 10:54 am |

        I wouldn’t, actually I pissed on someone else’s. During my grandfathers funeral I had to pee so I walked over, stood behind a grave stone and pissed on someones grave. I don’t have honor or morals, so sue me. I just don’t care for any feelings, we are all just bundles of random matter. Fuck it all. 

      • It has been a while since I enlisted, but I’m relatively sure that there was no mention of spreading spreading “honor” across the globe. To tell you the truth I could care less if someone pissed on the grave of any of my dead relatives.

        -You can’t cast a play in hell and expect angels as actors.

    • Jin The Ninja | Jan 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm |

      “they’re dead” as ‘there’ is an adverb, not the conjuction for ‘they are’.

      ethics and morality can and do exist outside of religion, and descration of bodies is not only illegal- it is actually a long standing cultural more almost universal in the world.

    • I concur, because the only ones not complaining about this at all is the guys getting pissed on…because they’re DEAD. Some how I have come to the conclusion that being pissed on would be like a vacation compared to being shot, or having your head removed by a bunch of zealots with a dull knife.

    • UrineAlotOfTrouble | Jan 12, 2012 at 7:36 pm |

      Thank you for making me laugh…did not think it would be possible after reading such a heinous and shameful story (could not even bring myself to watch the video…)

  21. Tibus Heth | Jan 12, 2012 at 9:41 pm |

    Damn it Marines, you piss on them, then kill them.

  22. Damn it Marines, you piss on them, then kill them.

  23. Mr Willow | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:19 pm |

    It’s nice to know you wouldn’t mind people pissing on the graves of your relatives. 

    There is supposed to be a sense of honour amongst soldiers. This is an utter disgrace. 

  24. gwen jackson | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:37 pm |

    you just hate america. we’re the good guys.

  25. gwen jackson | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:37 pm |

    you just hate america. we’re the good guys.

  26. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  27. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  28. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  29. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  30. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  31. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm |

    we haven’t been “the good guys” since WWII…

  32. truth hurts | Jan 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm |

    the point of war is to DEHUMANIZE you. pissing on the dead means you have no respect for the living, as does torturing helpless animals. in fact the point of all this is so we start comparing people with animals, thereby dehumanizing ourselves in the process. it started with Darwin who, if you bother to look for yourself, was a eugenicist. he believed in killing off the poor and “unfit”. (nothing to do with evolving…) and it ends with carbon taxes, cause you’re made of carbon. you’re no longer a human, but rather just a collection of cells, organs, and chemicals… DEHUMANIZATION…
    Dehumanization is to make somebody less human by taking away his
    or her individuality, the creative and interesting aspects of his or her
    personality, or his or her compassion and sensitivity towards others. – wikipedia.
    putting on a uniform is the first step in dehumanizing you. you’re no longer an individual. you’re part of a collective. violence in thought, word, or action toward another living creature is the second step. respect for life means respect for ALL life. if you hurt or kill another you are actually hurting and killing yourself. and that’s all it takes. quite simple actually… we’ve all been dehumanized in one way or another…

  33. UrineAlotOfTrouble | Jan 12, 2012 at 11:36 pm |

    Thank you for making me laugh…did not think it would be possible after reading such a heinous and shameful story (could not even bring myself to watch the video…)

  34. Jin (仁) | Jan 12, 2012 at 11:38 pm |

    “they’re dead” as ‘there’ is an adverb, not the conjuction for ‘they are’.

    ethics and morality can and do exist outside of religion, and descretion of bodies is not only illegal it is actually a long standing cultural more almost universal in the world.

  35. Jin (仁) | Jan 12, 2012 at 11:42 pm |

    i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you’re being facetious.

  36. Let me get this straight. You witnessed fellow US Marines/Soldiers committing sexually violent crimes against minor female human beings? Please tell me you did more to help these girls than standing by and watching.

    P.F. Conces MM2 (ret.)

  37. Simiantongue | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:11 am |

    Ever hang around and read comments on Liveleak? Pissing on people you’ve just killed is lightweight there. If this were a video of necrophiliacs having their way with corpses, people on LL would be cheering them on. As long as the corpses were brown. If you’ve ever wondered what’s wrong with the world just hang out there and read the comments on videos. No limits to the amounts of morally depraved apologetics. It’s actually kind of fascinating to read.

  38. Simiantongue | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:11 pm |

    Ever hang around and read comments on Liveleak? Pissing on people you’ve just killed is lightweight there. If this were a video of necrophiliacs having their way with corpses, people on LL would be cheering them on. As long as the corpses were brown. If you’ve ever wondered what’s wrong with the world just hang out there and read the comments on videos. No limits to the amounts of morally depraved apologetics. It’s actually kind of fascinating to read.

  39. > it ends with carbon taxes

    Because carbon taxes are worse than the genocide of the poor.

  40. Backfromsociety | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:26 am |

    I often delight in fantasies about killing and pissing on the corpses of certain people… but doing it to strangers is just WRONG. 

  41. Anomaly_of_Anomie | Jan 12, 2012 at 8:26 pm |

    I often delight in fantasies about killing and pissing on the corpses of certain people… but doing it to strangers is just WRONG. 

  42. Jin (仁) | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:39 am |

    i just wanted to mention that de-humanisation is an ongoing process involved in not only war or military ventures, but is the basis for much of the ideology behind colonisation/racism/imperialism/sexism/homophobia. it is about the identification of cultural difference as the ‘other’ and subsequently portraying the other as inhuman, immoral, exotic, (generally) anti-western or misanthropic. We live in a cultural of dehumanisation. what do people think reserves are for?

  43. Jin (仁) | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:39 am |

    i just wanted to mention that de-humanisation is an ongoing process involved in not only war or military ventures, but is the basis for much of the ideology behind colonisation/racism/imperialism/sexism/homophobia. it is about the identification of cultural difference as the ‘other’ and subsequently portraying the other as inhuman, immoral, exotic, (generally) anti-western or misanthropic. We live in a cultural of dehumanisation. what do people think reserves are for?

  44. Jin (仁) | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:45 am |

    military violence generates sexual violence- as violence generally is based on the dehumanisation of ‘other’ cultures/peoples. because of the underlying veins of gender oppression (specifically against women and sexual minorities) in western culture – this lends itself to sexual violence against women.rape is about domination and power and very little to do with sexuality, and while it may be an unpopular statement to make i think logically there is a correlation between rape culture and the military

  45. Apathesis | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:57 am |

    Woah, woah, woah.  You were a soldier there and didn’t STOP IT!?

  46. Apathesis | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:58 am |

    Seriously, I think I’d have to kill my fellow soldiers if I saw them raping little girls.

  47. You might not feel that way after bootcamp (brainwashing through abuse).

  48. Jin (仁) | Jan 13, 2012 at 1:54 am |

    i am unsure if one person immersed in a culture of military and sexual violence can really stop this behaviour. look at the scandal hitting the australian navy right now, the ombudsman referred to naval vessels as “bully booze and rape society.” wow that sounds so honourable…

  49. all the atrocities committed by Bushy and the Gang of Stooges
    the list is endless and horrific
    nothing happens, except they get book deals and fat pensions

    but some jar-heads piss on some corpses of people they killed for Bushy
    that gets everyone worked up
    wtf is wrong with Amerika?

    war is hell
    but Bush and the Gang of Stooges are war criminals
    take care of them first
    and there won’t be any more Marines pissing on corpses

  50. all the atrocities committed by Bushy and the Gang of Stooges
    the list is endless and horrific
    nothing happens, except they get book deals and fat pensions

    but some jar-heads piss on some corpses of people they killed for Bushy
    that gets everyone worked up
    wtf is wrong with Amerika?

    war is hell
    but Bush and the Gang of Stooges are war criminals
    take care of them first
    and there won’t be any more Marines pissing on corpses

  51. BuzzCoastin | Jan 12, 2012 at 9:55 pm |

    all the atrocities committed by Bushy and the Gang of Stooges
    the list is endless and horrific
    nothing happens, except they get book deals and fat pensions

    but some jar-heads piss on some corpses of people they killed for Bushy
    that gets everyone worked up
    wtf is wrong with Amerika?

    war is hell
    but Bush and the Gang of Stooges are war criminals
    take care of them first
    and there won’t be any more Marines pissing on corpses

  52. Dingdingchomp | Jan 13, 2012 at 4:15 am |

    Doesn’t shock me. My best friend, the week he got out of the marines, slit his own throat and the cops and his mother watched him bleed out with the knife still in his hand. Something is seriously wrong with the way military runs things.

  53. Dingdingchomp | Jan 13, 2012 at 12:15 am |

    Doesn’t shock me. My best friend, the week he got out of the marines, slit his own throat and the cops and his mother watched him bleed out with the knife still in his hand. Something is seriously wrong with the way military runs things.

  54. Americasucks | Jan 13, 2012 at 5:54 am |

    And people get mad at me for not supporting the troops. 

  55. Americasucks | Jan 13, 2012 at 1:54 am |

    And people get mad at me for not supporting the troops. 

    • Have you posted on any websites that show videos of Americans being beheaded?

    • Do something to effect change then. My first suggestion would be to vote for Ron Paul, or get all your America hating comrades together and start your own movement. Do SOMETHING besides whine. Better yet just move the fuck out.

  56. truth hurts | Jan 13, 2012 at 8:07 am |

    because the end result is the same…

  57. army @ love

  58. army @ love

  59. Monkey See Monkey Do | Jan 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm |

    and your soldiers were cannon fodder in WWII

  60. Evil Jake | Jan 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm |

    I wouldn’t, actually I pissed on someone else’s. During my grandfathers funeral I had to pee so I walked over, stood behind a grave stone and pissed on someones grave. I don’t have honor or morals, so sue me. I just don’t care for any feelings, we are all just bundles of random matter. Fuck it all. 

  61. Hardly.

  62. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  63. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  64. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  65. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  66. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  67. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  68. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  69. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  70. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  71. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  72. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  73. pissing on a vanquished foe is a normal masculine primate behavior.

  74. Oops.

  75. Oops.

  76. Oops.

  77. Timmy L, I am officially calling you a liar.  Even if what you were saying was true, then you are a coward for not blowing the whistle on it, go play the “poor disturbed vet” somewhere else.

  78. Wrong Jin, its called a request mast, congrent, or any of the numerous systems in place to handle problems like this.  I might add that people use them every day with success.  The reality is he is full of crap. 

  79. Still trying to get my head around this.  It’s OK to kill the taliban but it is politically incorrect to pee on their dead bodies because it will offend some Muslims who want to kill us.  I say we feed all their dead to the pigs!  Then they might not want to F**k with us!  Or maybe we should just give them a really nice expensive funeral at Uncle Sam’s expense.  Semper Fi

  80. Still trying to get my head around this.  It’s OK to kill the taliban but it is politically incorrect to pee on their dead bodies because it will offend some Muslims who want to kill us.  I say we feed all their dead to the pigs!  Then they might not want to F**k with us!  Or maybe we should just give them a really nice expensive funeral at Uncle Sam’s expense.  Semper Fi

  81. Yes.  A soldier steals a bag of money and goes to prison.  A corporation like Haliburton steals Billions and nobody is arrested.

  82. I love how all the haters stop associating these guys with groups at the level in which they are not included (i.e. Marines)  Do like the rest of the world and identify them as Americans, then denounce what they are doing if you disagree, which is exactly what the rest of the military is doing.  It’s four guys who did something they can suffer consequences for.

    How many criminals commit crimes worse than this every day well inside the borders of good old USA, what is their excuse as they are not in a war?  What groups are we allowed to label because of them?  How many Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen or Marines have  performed with honor over the last 10 years of war and gone unnoticed by the media or anyone here? Selective reporting from the media.

    Do I need to remind everyone that they killed those men?  How upset would you be if all those Marines did was kill those men by shooting them and after about 10 minutes of bleeding out they finally died in agony.  If they deserved that then who cares if someone pissed on them, if they didn’t deserve to die in agony…then concern yourself with their death.

  83. I love how all the haters stop associating these guys with groups at the level in which they are not included (i.e. Marines)  Do like the rest of the world and identify them as Americans, then denounce what they are doing if you disagree, which is exactly what the rest of the military is doing.  It’s four guys who did something they can suffer consequences for.

    How many criminals commit crimes worse than this every day well inside the borders of good old USA, what is their excuse as they are not in a war?  What groups are we allowed to label because of them?  How many Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen or Marines have  performed with honor over the last 10 years of war and gone unnoticed by the media or anyone here? Selective reporting from the media.

    Do I need to remind everyone that they killed those men?  How upset would you be if all those Marines did was kill those men by shooting them and after about 10 minutes of bleeding out they finally died in agony.  If they deserved that then who cares if someone pissed on them, if they didn’t deserve to die in agony…then concern yourself with their death.

    • Go play the “poor offended Marine” somewhere else.

      • Andrew, are wearing clothes made of burlap and chaining yourself to trees?  You seem like the type that buys into man made global warming.

        • You flatter me. I do believe in anthropogenic climate change, but I don’t do enough to stand up for my beliefs.

          • I assume then you are educated enough to realize that we are not the predominate cause of global warming.  It’s just another scheme to push Carbon tax.  You don’t seem like the type to support such rubbish.

          • No, I do believe we are the predominate cause.  Elsewhere in these comments I explain that the greenhouse gasses we’re pumping into the atmosphere aren’t our only contribution to the problem.  And the sun has been in a cooling trend over the past couple of decades

    • gwen jackson | Jan 13, 2012 at 11:24 pm |

      you’re right about that, we are definitely doing worse things over there for people to get upset about… i’ll go post some outrage on a thread about the latest drone attack on ‘militants’…

  84. Jin (仁) | Jan 13, 2012 at 11:56 pm |

    “handling them with success” would imply the incidence of sexual violence within the military and perpetrated by it’s members would be on the decline- while the reverse is true. so in what way EXACTLY, was what i said wrong? Many times rape goes unreported. It’s again very simple. a culture of violence engenders sexual violence. point. blank. period.

  85. Go play the “poor offended Marine” somewhere else.

  86. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 2:22 am |

    in his defense, IF what this guy says is true (it could easily be anti-military hate-speech or could very well be true, i don’t doubt it happens, it happens in EVERY conflict at least a few times),
    military members who threaten to report the kind of abuse he described are routinely subject to abuse or murder themselves, sometimes even perpetrated BY their chain of command once they have reported it.
    Remember the Army wasn’t even going to prosecute Stephen Green or the guys who were killing farmers in Afghanistan, until it was leaked to the media; til then they worked only to punish the whistleblowers and send the perpetrators home with medals.

    Does anybody believe that the epidemic of military suicides are really all suicides?
    Too fucking easy, I think.

    The US military doesn’t even give a damn when their OWN female soldiers get raped and murdered (Private Johnson RIP, others); and they DAMN SURE don’t give a damn when it happens to female civilians from the ‘enemy’ (ha!) side.

    And now phase two of this experiment in terror is beginning: dehumanizing our soldiers enough to get them to come home and perpetrate these same crimes against their own people.
    Just you wait. Americans are about to get everything we deserve for having allowed these crimes to be committed against the middle east in our name; now it will be done to us, by our own forces. Sooner than you think, my friends.

  87. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 2:47 am |

    Yes, the thing people forget about war is that you can’t dehumanize and abuse your enemy without first DEHUMANIZING YOURSELF in order to perpetrate the abuse.
    We can’t expect our soldiers to be dehumanized to the point where they can kill and brutalize a defenseless population without also being dehumanized to the  to the point that they think nothing of raping a refugee or fellow soldier. It’s not possible.
    Dehumanized is dehumanized, it doesn’t happen by degrees.

    That’s why i disagree with anybody who says we need to stop the war and bring the troops home. Fuck that. Sometimes I like to read military lawyers brag-sheets online, about all the crimes they’ve helped soldiers get away with, with no punishment, it’s some FUCKED UP shit.
    Do you want some fucked up gitmo torturer living next to you? Some guy who’s been doing house-to-house urban terror against civilians for ten years?
    The guys who get away with raping and murdering civilians or fellow soldiers, going to college with your daughter, dating her? I didn’t think so.
    Fuck it, send them to Iran.

  88. Several vets have spoken at Occupy demonstrations.  Perhaps this video was released to help keep civilians and the military from uniting against the plutarchists.

  89. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 2:57 am |

    Dude… the reality is that the military doesn’t even give a shit when it’s happening to their OWN women…

    http://disinfo.com/2011/10/the-u-s-militarys-sexual-assault-and-rape-epidemic/

    you remind me of…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

    LOL.

  90. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 3:20 am |

    oh wow i just said the same thing a minute ago up there, lol.

  91. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 3:22 am |

    that sounds creepy as hell, i think i’ll skip it…

  92. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 3:24 am |

    you’re right about that, we are definitely doing worse things over there for people to get upset about… i’ll go post some outrage on a thread about the latest drone attack on ‘militants’…

  93. gwen jackson | Jan 14, 2012 at 3:31 am |

    good point; the problem would be that there are more of them than you, and the chain of command works to protect the well-being of the MAJORITY of the troops, so you’d be fucked, most likely.

  94. That More-Barbaric-Than-Thou bullshit only works so long.  Just ask the Nazis.

  95. truth hurts | Jan 14, 2012 at 4:09 am |

     really?… so taxing poor people to the eyeballs ISN’T a form of genocide? you should read more history… what happens when poor people can’t afford to eat, clothe themselves, heat their home, or have a home? they die, or they kill eachother. the method may be a bit slower, but i reiterate, they result is the same. carbon taxes will make the middle class poor, and make the poor class die off… and that’s the point of it. nothing to do with global warmi… i mean climate cha… i mean THE WEATHER.

  96. Jin (仁) | Jan 14, 2012 at 6:40 am |

    i don’t disagree. although i think iran has enough issues and would not need the additional pressure of an influx of imperialist ex soldiers.

  97. “military members who threaten to report the kind of abuse he described are routinely subject to abuse or murder themselves, sometimes even perpetrated BY their chain of command once they have reported it.”
    First of all, it would be a grave mistake to “threaten” to report anyone. While the legal system is different for service members and civilians. There are 
    similarities. You wouldn’t walk into a judges chambers and report a crime you witnessed. Well, not only would you probably not do that in the military. It is HIGHLY frowned upon. Everyone has the right to see someone in “legal” (totally separate command) and report a crime. No chain of command involved. I have personal experience with this.  My recommendation as to things not to do:
    1. Don’t tell anyone in your immediate chain of command
    2. Don’t call the media (THEY DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST IN MIND)
    3. Do NOT put your video on YouTube. I can’t think of a faster way to put yourself in danger.

  98. LOL yeah but thanks to that cannon fodder you speak English, not German.  

  99. Please do, or just vote for Ron Paul.

  100. Andrew, are wearing clothes made of burlap and chaining yourself to trees?  You seem like the type that buys into man made global warming.

  101. Except they didn’t prosecute their own for stuff like this, our military does. 

  102. Have you posted on any websites that show videos of Americans being beheaded?

  103. Every unit has a staff Judge Advocate.  At any given moment there are dozens of investigations occurring in Afghanistan over even the most justified engagements of enemy, hundreds across the military.  Criminal Investigative services in each branch, request mast that can be done that gives you immediate access up to the Secretary of the Navy ect.  If he didn’t report it, its because he cared more for himself than those he claims were victims, but I doubt he is telling the truth anyway.

  104. Visit the nearest military Brigg and find thousands of prosecuted and convicted service members for all sorts of crimes, to include sexual harassment and assault.  You find more sexual assaults that go unreported at many of the Universities in the U.S. 

    For the last 6 years the military has put special emphasis on searching for and prosecuting sexual harassment/assuault, there are more convictions because they are doing everything they can to find it and stop it.  Female service members are among the nations most informed on who to report to and what to do if harassed or assaulted.  To the tune of weekly briefs and unit counselors, equal opportunity advocates ect, all with systems in place for anonymity.

  105. I know for a fact more stuff like this happened in WWII than does now.  There were no civil reports imbedded in WWII, nor did every soldier have a camera and social media.

  106. You are speaking the truth John, this war needs to be over several years ago.

  107. You flatter me. I do believe in anthropogenic climate change, but I don’t do enough to stand up for my beliefs.

  108. I concur, because the only ones not complaining about this at all is the guys getting pissed on…because they’re DEAD. Some how I have come to the conclusion that being pissed on would be like a vacation compared to being shot, or having your head removed by a bunch of zealots with a dull knife.

  109. I concur, because the only ones not complaining about this at all is the guys getting pissed on…because they’re DEAD. Some how I have come to the conclusion that being pissed on would be like a vacation compared to being shot, or having your head removed by a bunch of zealots with a dull knife.

  110. It has been a while since I enlisted, but I’m relatively sure that there was no mention of spreading spreading “honor” across the globe. To tell you the truth I could care less if someone pissed on the grave of any of my dead relatives.

    -You can’t cast a play in hell and expect angels as actors.

  111. existential nihilist?

  112. Do something to effect change then. My first suggestion would be to vote for Ron Paul, or get all your America hating comrades together and start your own movement. Do SOMETHING besides whine. Better yet just move the fuck out.

  113. Jin (仁) | Jan 14, 2012 at 8:02 pm |

    oh bullshit.

  114. Jin (仁) | Jan 14, 2012 at 8:05 pm |

    well in truth we may have had a selection of 4 languages: japanese, german, italian, and catalan spanish. fascism was very popular, even amongst politicos in the US “back then” (>>.)

  115. I don’t want to get off the subject of the post for too long (hopefully that wasn’t your intent) but I want to correct a couple of your assumptions.

    Fist off, carbon taxes won’t affect the poor much, because the poor have, by far, the smallest carbon footprints.  Corporations will be the ones taxed most, and in this day of inordinately high CEO salaries, pensions, and severance packages, they can easily afford them without passing the costs on to customers.  That they compete for stock speculators’ dollars on Wall Street may be a problem, but financial reform can fix that without doing damage to basic capitalism (not finance capitalism, which probably has to go).

    Second, solar power is currently plummeting in price, so fossil fuels will no longer as “necessary” as they once were.

    Third, scientists know how greenhouse gasses react with the atmosphere, how much greenhouse gases we are emitting, and that the climate is changing.  The fact that we can’t “scientifically prove” 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 by putting the Earth through the last two centuries without industry as a control in a laboratory is not a reason to do nothing, and each of the three facts I mentioned above have been scientifically proven.  Carbon wouldn’t be so much of a problem if we hadn’t cut down so much of the land’s forests and killed off so much of the ocean’s plankton, severely reducing the Earth’s ability to sequester it.

  116. FUCKYOULIAR | Jan 15, 2012 at 12:03 am |

    Your a fucking liar Timmy. If its true and you did nothing, you didn’t call CID, you didnt call the MPs, your an accompliss. You know your required to report a crime under the UCMJ, which is it? Are you a liar or an accompliss.

  117. they want marines to kill people – but not pee on them?

  118. they want marines to kill people – but not pee on them?

    • I don’t think the people who are upset Marines are pissing on people and the people who are glad Marines are killing people are the same group.

  119. I suspect that there are  people over there who weren’t dead who were peed on too

  120. I suspect that there are  people over there who weren’t dead who were peed on too

  121. I don’t think the people who are upset Marines are pissing on people and the people who are glad Marines are killing people are the same group.

  122. Ingrid Bloemheuvel | Jan 16, 2012 at 8:20 am |

    Yeah and God is on your side… Your enemy claims exactly the same: they are the good guys and God is with them. So what do we have here – good guys killing the other good guys…

  123. If you are a weaponized human you are evil because you are willing to kill to protect your freedom and not to protect ALL freedom. You are in mind control – that’s why you can kill so easily. That’s why the others that disagree with you is the enemy. Just look at that, simple mind control. You can’t even see how easily you could have been in the others shoes… Put yourself in the shoes of another and then decide if you will kill them…

  124. If you are a weaponized human you are evil because you are willing to kill to protect your freedom and not to protect ALL freedom. You are in mind control – that’s why you can kill so easily. That’s why the others that disagree with you is the enemy. Just look at that, simple mind control. You can’t even see how easily you could have been in the others shoes… Put yourself in the shoes of another and then decide if you will kill them…

  125. Jin (仁) | Jan 16, 2012 at 9:33 am |

    facts can be cited by either historical evidence or by academic discourse. citation please?

  126. I assume then you are educated enough to realize that we are not the predominate cause of global warming.  It’s just another scheme to push Carbon tax.  You don’t seem like the type to support such rubbish.

  127. You wouldn’t be mindlessly throwing out a baseless opinion would you?

    facts can be cited by either historical evidence or by academic discourse. citation please?

  128. Don’t forget the isolation from the outside world, controlled information, re-education, being stripped of identity and all the basic points made by
    Dr. Philip Zimbardo in his book “The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil.” 

    The military is one giant Standford Prison Experiment.

  129. No, I do believe we are the predominate cause.  Elsewhere in these comments I explain that the greenhouse gasses we’re pumping into the atmosphere aren’t our only contribution to the problem.  And the sun has been in a cooling trend over the past couple of decades

  130. I agree completely.

  131. Jin (仁) | Jan 17, 2012 at 5:33 am |

    USMC, well aside from your tireless attempts at propaganda, you asserted that sexual violence (specifically) is less than in WWII, i would like a citatation of THAT specific fact. I am well aware of war-time atrocities.

  132. Jin (仁) | Jan 17, 2012 at 5:35 am |

    I didn’t claim it as fact. Yes, the fact that it is bullshit is my opinion. My opinion, however, is based on an extensive knowledge of sexual violence via gender and women’s studies particularly of war time atrocities.

  133. gwen jackson | Jan 20, 2012 at 8:00 am |

    You have no idea how right you are. Col. Larry James, who designed the US torture program, is apparently a protege of Milgram. I think one reason we continue to torture even though we know it doesn’t get reliable info is to finish Milgram’s experiment in a setting where it won’t have to be stopped when the guards become overly abusive. It’s a study to measure the effect of torture on the torturers (we already know how torture affects the victim). …just a thought…

  134. gwen jackson | Jan 20, 2012 at 8:09 am |

    my baseless opinion is that you’re so full of shit you squeak when you walk.

  135. gwen jackson | Jan 20, 2012 at 8:11 am |

    actually, calling the media is the only thing that has saved some whistleblowers from an imminent death by (not-so)friendly fire after they reported war crimes to their superiors.

  136. gwen jackson | Jan 20, 2012 at 8:15 am |

    I don’t really give a shit where they go, as long as I’m not there.

  137. This should be obligatory watching for kids in school. 

    This is your brain on war.

    Something good could come out of it.

  138. Tuna Ghost | Jan 22, 2012 at 7:49 am |

    While I disagree with USMC’s opinions more than once in this comments section, his bit about rape being more prevalent on US universities than in the military is unfortunately true–an even cursory glance at the stomach-churning rape statistics on college campuses will confirm this.  Bear in mind that those stats describe what is reported, leaving out the instances wherein the victim remains silent.  Sexual violence is a huge problem in American universities.  

    Yes, a culture of violence engenders sexual violence, and so does a culture that teaches young men to look for opportunity rather than consent in an environment that, while not necessarily one of violence, is nevertheless full of drugs and alcohol and next to no authority or supervision.  

    Which is not to downgrade the very real and very serious issue of sexual violence in the military, of course.  

    • Jin The Ninja | Jan 22, 2012 at 4:35 pm |

      hey tuna, i see that comment is not in it’s original state as it was when i replied to it. the statement i had disputed (posited by USMC) was “sexual violence was much higher in previous wars (WWII was his his example) than in our wars now” (paraphrased). having been part of university culture for most of my adult life, i completely agree that there is a predatory / party culture on campus’ that engender sexual violence, if not outrightly deviant sexuality in the form of rape/domination.

      i went to a relatively conservative school, with a relatively tolerant atmosphere and a very small fraternity system- and the ability to have free discourse surrounding ‘progressive’ issues (like minority or feminist issues) was very limited unless you were in the ‘right class’ taught by the ‘right’ prof in the ‘right’ dept.

      the whole culture of university is and was dysfunctional – and the increasing commercialisation of it does nothing to stop it’s progress.

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