Christians Have No Right to Wear Cross at Work, Says UK Government

Wearing A Cross

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David Barrett reports in the Telegraph:

In a highly significant move, ministers will fight a case at the European Court of Human Rights in which two British women will seek to establish their right to display the cross.

It is the first time that the Government has been forced to state whether it backs the right of Christians to wear the symbol at work.

A document seen by The Sunday Telegraph discloses that ministers will argue that because it is not a “requirement” of the Christian faith, employers can ban the wearing of the cross and sack workers who insist on doing so.

The Government’s position received an angry response last night from prominent figures including Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury. He accused ministers and the courts of “dictating” to Christians and said it was another example of Christianity becoming sidelined in official life.

The Government’s refusal to say that Christians have a right to display the symbol of their faith at work emerged after its plans to legalise same-sex marriages were attacked by the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Britain …

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  • Libsakavelma

    Fuck it, let ‘em wear the cross….
    I don’t really see why it is an issue?

    (not a christian… disliker of the religion)

  • Jin The Ninja

    you can’t force society to be secular; you can however promote a secular society- why not end the monarchy and their belief in the divine right to rule? or end state support of the ‘church of england’

    there are a million better ways to have secularism, but this (and bans on headcoverings ) are totally wrong and coercive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=580380351 Potter Dee

    massively not cool

  • Toot!

    Oh no, somebody’s denying rights to christians? Seems like the tables are turning mother fuckers.

    • rtb61

       Nobody is denying anyone anything. Fortunately I use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/murdoch-block/, which automatically blocks all Fox not-News web sites (Newscorp), so immediately alarm bells ring.
      So straight up politicking by a news rag. Secular governments do not legislate the right to display religious symbols, however they do legislate the right of freedom of religion. Now as it is the individual right of freedom of religion and not the group right of freedom of religion, the government does not legislate what is and is not incorporated in expressing any particular facet of any particular religion beyond no facet of any religion can be a criminal act.
      So you as an individual have religious freedom, you choose your religion and you choose how to express and by law no one can infringe upon your religion except that you can not break the law and you can not break agreed contracts (these contracts are all bound by laws and in themselves can not infringe upon constitutional rights).
      So the bullshit brigade is out in force in order to tilt elections, in this case they are fucking around in the UK so the news will get back to the US, become a religious issue in the US and be targeted at the enemies of Fox not-news the Democrats.

    • Long-term memory

      What? Did Rome, Islam, and militant atheism not murder enough of ‘em for ya?

      • Eric_D_Read

        Not nearly enough. It’s like killing roaches. You have to get them all or else what’s the point?

  • M.C.

    Oh, but G-D forbid you ban the Magen David!

  • Anarchy Pony

    As much as I hate the Christ lovers, just let them wear the stupid idols.

    • TheOtherCheek

      Hate is a very strong word…as much as they annoy the living fuck out of you? And me. And anyone else with any commonsense whatsoever. Poor Jebus…if only he could see what they have done in his name…except that, you know…he’s dead. But the spirit of his message can continue to live on inside of those who would choose to turn the other cheek…who would rather take from the rich and give to the poor; who would rather that we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. That guy was okay. He was a bit too early for Woodstock, perhaps…but he would have been welcome, and he would have had a blast :-) 

  • Eric_D_Read

    Company owners and executives are the innovators and job-creators that make the world go ’round. 

    They have to be given the freedom to do whatever it takes to create the most efficient and productive work environment possible without Big Government stepping in. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anarchy Pony

      That kinda thing always makes me giggle.

  • DeepCough

    Oh, man, if the Supreme Court ruled that it was not okay for Christians to wear their crucifixes, it would get burned down in 5 minutes.

  • Gregory Wyrdmaven

    Hmm…bible says “Love One Another” and says “you shall have no idols or graven images.”

    Seems clear cut to me.

  • Simian

    This is a tough issue. I can’t decide whether I hate christianity more, or work.

  • Doop

    “Man, they’re still wearing crosses. Fuck it, I’m not
    goin, dad. No, they totally missed the point. When they start wearing
    fishes I might show up again, but… Let me bury fossil heads with you
    Dad, Fuck em – Let’s Fuck with them! They’re fuckin with me now, lets
    get em. Give me that brontosaurus head, Dad.”RIP BW Hicks

    • Vi0let_femme

      exactly what popped into my head when i saw the title

      • Adamsshadow

        “It’s like walking up to Jackie Onassis with an AK-47 pendant: ‘Just thinking of John, Jackie, just thinking of John.'”

  • 5by5

    This would be the part where rightwing Christians should look across the pond and be thankful for our America “wall of separation between church and state” Constitution.

    It protects BOTH government from religious excesses, and personal religious expression from the excesses of government. Everybody wins. 

    But dipshits like Ricky McSweaterVest would have us “tear down that Wall”.

  • Server

     Seriously? Are we talking on display? Or like, if your boss notices that your shirt slips to the side when you bend over, and there’s a cross dangling there?  And what if you’re NOT a Christian, but you wear a cross due to your involvement with some other religion (I know, there’s only a few hundred…)?

    Yea, no.  I’m no defender of Christianity or any other slave religion, but I also can’t even condone the banning of visible tattoos or visible piercings, let alone this bullshit.  The Nazi’s forced people to be marked, and corporations are forcing them to have no markings.  Both measures undermine individuality and are dehumanizing. 

    I’m sure the employers’ take is that the cross may in some way offend some customers, or otherwise make them uneasy.  Sounds valid, right?  Yea, that’s what they thought back when it was the same argument for why they wouldn’t hire anyone who wasn’t white, or women into many positions.  I swear…it’s not enough for these capitalist scumbags that they already live off of the labor of others; they have to constantly seek out more and more ways to micromanage our lives.

    “Man has the right to think what he will: to speak what he will:

    to write what he will:

    to draw, paint, carve, etch, mould, build as he
    will:

    to DRESS as he will (emphasis added).

    […]

    Man has the right to kill those who would
    thwart these rights.
    the slaves shall serve.”
    ” – Liber OZ

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobbie-Jean-Pentecost/100000391760333 Bobbie Jean Pentecost

    Christianity is retarded but this measure is going way too far. If someone wants to proudly display a mark of their profound retardation right in the middle of their tits, I say let them. And let those of us who aren’t stupid enough to believe in magical man in the sky mock the everloving shit out of them.

  • Jim

    My other God is nailed to a stick! Praise BOB!

  • Pete Chapman
  • Andrewarchie00

    Wow, there sure is lots of animosity towards Christians in these comments.

  • Mikeofdoom

    There is no ban on religious adornments in the UK. The current debate and govmnt “ruling” really only applies to circumstances in which jewellery is banned anyway, and denying “but Jeebus demands I wear this cross pendant” as a get-out.
    As far as I recall, the case which sparked it all off centered on a woman working for British Airways, in a role in which dangling jewellery was not allowed. And she turned out to have a history of annoying colleagues and customers with her evangelising.I say let them wear what the hell they like, if it gets caught in a conveyor belt they can always pray.At least if they’re wearing a cross you’re forewarned that sky goblin fantasies may be about to be shared with you.

  • WakeUpAlready

    You can’t pick and choose rights. Either we all have the same rights, or none of us has any rights at all. I might not be a Christian myself, but I can’t ban their freedom of expression simply because I disagree with them. People died in order free us (Americans) from the system of monarchy, and it is a grand experiment in social freedom that we will lose if we don’t defend our Constitution. We live in a diverse society where differences in belief are bound to occur. That is what freedom is all about.  

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