Ron Paul Says GOP Primary Elections May Have Been A Sham

A display of paranoia run amok? Sour grapes over a disappointing performance? Or could he be onto something? Ron Paul questions the veracity of the results in the Republican primaries, implying that vote tallies are being doctored to favor the picking of a more “establishment” candidate:

31 Comments on "Ron Paul Says GOP Primary Elections May Have Been A Sham"

  1. Liam_McGonagle | Mar 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm |

    This dovetails perfectly with the product launch of my new RPG:  “Politool:  Buy a Clue”.  The playable Ron Paul character starts off with a Perspicacity Score of around -30.

    I’m getting some flak from lawyers representing the “No Duh” corporation that it’s a clear infringement on their copyright, but I think the law is in my favor.  Being as the central theme to the game is transparent deception of gullible fools, I say there is ample evidence that the whole thing passed over into public domain about 30 C.E.

  2. The Republican Party?  Corrupt?  No way!

  3. It’s not just the GOP, it is the entire electoral system.

    Clinton Curtis testified in front of congress about election hacking back in 2004. More recently Bender from Futurama was elected to the DC School Board, and he wasn’t even on the ballot.

    While Paul is correct about election hacking, he is off his rocker on most other things.

    Clinton Curtis testimony:

    • This.

      The electoral system is in dire need of a top-down restoration of the kind it will NOT get, dooming the US to descend even further into a PRETEND democracy, as opposed to an actual democracy.

      My Euro-friends ask me why I don’t vote. I say: “These people are trying to get very important jobs, and none of them are qualified. Even those few who are qualified will be inserted into a system so dysfunctional that they can’t, uh, FUNCTION. So I, and other voters who are essentially serving as ‘HR people’ cannot in good conscious select ANY of the applicants for the jobs. Rather than pretend I’m electing someone qualified, I just say ‘Fuck it’ and hope my ‘inaction’ accelerates the inevitable crash, so that something good might be built from the ashes.”

      • Apathesis | Mar 14, 2012 at 7:37 am |

        Sadly, I think I agree with you.  This country might just be better off if everyone stayed home on Election Day.

        Every time I have voted, the guy I didn’t want to win did.  And the guy I wanted to win was hardly better.

        If people only knew more about Obama and Joe Biden, they might be disgusted they actually voted for Obama.  Then again, some people think we should trust the government and that guns are evil and we don’t need them for any reason… We should just roll over and die rather than meet violence with violence to protect ourselves and our neighbors.  I don’t see how a victim is morally superior to a murderous scoundrel…

        Now we have an administration that is the worst when it comes to FOIA requests.  That kills citizens without fair trial because they are suspected of terrorism.  That thinks law enforcement has every right to access personal cellphone date without warrants.  That still hasn’t closed Guatanamo Bay…

  4. Calypso_1 | Mar 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm |

    I wonder if the LIGO picked up any fluctuations in space-time in conjunction with the collective nut-bust the Ron Paul Nation had upon hearing this statement.

  5. DeepCough | Mar 13, 2012 at 1:47 pm |

    I told you to not go Republican, Ron Paul, but did you listen? NOOOOOOOOO!

  6. Mr Willow | Mar 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm |

    No matter how anyone feels about Ron Paul, I think everyone can agree with this particular sentiment. 

    All the more reason it would behoove him to run on a third party ticket. 

    • Jin The Ninja | Mar 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm |

      it’s almost…hypocrisy

    • ShiskaBob | Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15 am |

       Except for the part where running as a republican allows him to participate in the debates and continue his fundraising.

      If you can’t spot a grifter among a family which creates their own medical association to certify themselves as medical professionals, you might not be the sharpest tool in the shed.

  7. Diebold, quite possibly. Assorted GOP-affiliated hacktivists working (mostly) for the Wall Street candidate.
    /still didn’t vote for Paul; something about his wanting to overturn the Civil Rights Act

    • ShiskaBob | Mar 15, 2012 at 10:13 am |

       Why would anyone pay to use computer voting systems for something this petty?
      Seriously, dial down the conspiracy nonsense.

  8. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it were revealed that our elections are a big fraud.    

  9. John Metcalfe | Mar 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |

    I think it has more to do with Democrats voting against him in open primaries to keep him from going up against Obama in November.  He’s fairly moderate compared to the other GOP nutjobs and even a lot of Democrats can agree with his platform, not to mention the moderates/centrists.

    • What primary? | Mar 13, 2012 at 5:30 pm |

      I’m a centrist and voted for him in our open primaries. There’s no conspiracy or weaseling, it’s lack of interest. I went an hour before the polls closed and I was the 40th person to vote. 
      Afterwards, I asked a few Paul-supporting friends what number they were. None of them knew there was an election, and one was not even registered to vote.

    • ShiskaBob | Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06 am |

      He’s fairly moderate compared to other nutjobs?
      He’s spent decades promoting the ending of the Fed. Otherwise known and the central bank of the US. Otherwise known as the only thing between the US and armageddon during an international debt crisis.

  10. Apathesis | Mar 13, 2012 at 5:33 pm |

    Yeah, very few people I know my age voted in the Mass primary.  They didn’t even know about it.  Turnout was pitiful in my town.  Pitiful. 

  11. Hadrian999 | Mar 13, 2012 at 5:55 pm |

    poor guy, he must think his internet cult is a accurate  picture of america. either he is delusional or he knows that he will never get party support or media support and is content to travel and dine off of his campaign contributions while writing the scathing book that is sure to follow.

    • halmonkey | Mar 13, 2012 at 6:29 pm |

       The popular vote and the delegate selection process is very different. The delegates are being selected over the next few months in most caucus states. Yet the media reports as if the delegates have already been decided, and have gone to the popular vote winners, such as Romney. Mass confusion has begun and will only get worse.

      • Hadrian999 | Mar 13, 2012 at 6:33 pm |

        but that is really no surprise, some one of his age definitely knows that delegates are based on back room deals not a popular vote

      • Liam_McGonagle | Mar 13, 2012 at 6:59 pm |

        I don’t think the chairman and his wheeler/dealers have total carte blanche to override the popular vote.  In order to keep the wheels greased and maintain the illusion of democracy, they still have to respect the outward form of the popular vote, at least.

        And there are all sorts of ways to corrupt the voting process that I think it’d be fairly rare to go so crude as to outright tamper with ballots.  It’s so much easier to rig critical choke-points in the process, like debate moderators, state party chiefs laying heavy hints as to whom their underlings should work for if they want to get ahead, etc.

        Granted, the popular vote has been so split between radically different ends of the party’s base that they will more than likely end up with a heavily brokered convention this time about.  But in normal years, when the party’s mainline triangulation strategy isn’t under so much pressure, machine bosses have no problem at all producing the desired popular vote.

        Paul’s particular problem is different.  He’s totally off-message for the Republican Party.  He doesn’t appeal to either of its marginally functional wings.  He should have known better from the git-go.

    • TheKingofPot | Mar 13, 2012 at 8:47 pm |

      This is insanity. I haven’t seen hardly any Ron Paul bumper stickers this entire year, and just a couple yard signs from a couple local fringe-right nuts. And I love in a very conservative area. Paul obviously was deluded by the vocal cult that bombarded the internet on his behalf, especially on places like Yahoo. I can’t believe he’s that crazy, and that sore a loser. What a stupid asshole.

      • bmannilow | Mar 13, 2012 at 11:14 pm |

        King of pot, you should support Ron Paul…  cause, you know, you’re the king of pot.  Way to be brainwashed by pop culture and the media.  Elections are fixed, our government is corrupt, and TV is in cahoots with the media.  Sadly, you’ll just smoke your weed listening to what mainstream media tells you is the truth.  

        • Hadrian999 | Mar 14, 2012 at 1:12 am |

           how is supporting him in a rigged election doing anything but giving power to the myth of American democracy. if the elections are rigged he can’t win and all the effort you put into his campaign are wasted

  12. Broken_Finger | Mar 13, 2012 at 9:21 pm |

    The rigging of elections isn’t a new or unusual thing.  It does seem kind of novel that the Republicans are doing it to themselves this year, however.  

    • Hadrian999 | Mar 14, 2012 at 2:17 am |

       not really that surprising, there are certain factions that the power brokers are willing to use but they don’t want to roll dice that aren’t loaded and gamble on the chance that the illiterati manage to select an unelectable candidate that excites the extreme fringe but drives away necessary undecided voters.

  13. For all the vitriol I direct at his followers, Ron Paul is actually rather endearing. I can see why they support him. I can’t see why they think they are superior Humans for supporting him, but thats neither here nor there.

  14. ShiskaBob | Mar 15, 2012 at 10:10 am |

    Must we do this every election? Yes, Ron Paul does well in internet polls and in the initial primaries. The end. The same as the last election. That’s the suspicious pattern.

    If you don’t count the one where a guy who raises millions of dollars every 4 years to almost run for president, almost ran for president again this time. If you need this explained in simpler terms, google Sarah Palin Campaign.

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