Living with Bipolar Disorder: Andy Behrman’s ‘Electroboy’

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Living with Bipolar Disorder: Andy Behrman’s ‘Electroboy’ | The Disinfocast with Matt Staggs: Episode 05

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Andy Behrman is the author of Electroboy: A Memoir of Mania.

At first, Andy Behrman’s manic episodes gave him an edge among the young professional elite of 1980s New York City: thousands of ideas tumbled out of his super-charged brain and he slept only a couple of hours a night, leaving him plenty of time to pursue them all. Soon, though, the dizzying highs and crushing lows of his undiagnosed bipolar disorder grew too strong, and Andy’s life spun out of control. He developed a taste for drugs, quick money and risky sex. He grew delusional and grandiose, spending thousands of dollars on impulsive trips around the world and luxury goods. His mania-fueled joyride ended in a federal court, an accused embezzler and forger of modern art.

It took almost 20 rounds of electroconvulsive therapy to bring some degree of normalcy to Andy’s life, but his story doesn’t end there. He became a spokesperson for a powerful pharmaceutical company, ultimately betraying his corporate paymasters to become one of their harshest critics.

Big pharma critic, author and mental health advocate Andy Behrman is my guest on this episode of The DisinfoCast.

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  • Okarin

     medical conditions are bad only if you can’t create a fortune 500 company with as many high up people had medical conditions that were the cause of their success

    • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

      you could say Success is abnormal. and anything that is abnormal must be defined as a disorder right?

  • SXKline

    What’s all this shit about “bi-polar disorder”? It’s a fucking crock. Manic people are as old as the hills. What bothers me is that people such as Behrman talk about their condition as if it were kidney cancer or influenza. They ride the bandwagon of pseudosciene as a cop out from personal responsibility.

    • Geoarltr

      Well it is obvious that you have never been stuck in a room with someone who is bi-polar.  You would be yelling at them to get some “medication”. As someone who has dealt with my own clinical depression; hurray for anti depressants.  Also, subjecting oneself to 20 rounds of ect is not someone suffereing from a f ing crock

      • SXKline

        Your comments are totally misguided on this issue. I’m not belittling anyone’s suffering. Nor do I welcome the company of the psychotically disturbed. What I’m taking aim at is Behrman’s cheer leading of a system that infantalizes the public at the expense of civil rights and the foundations of modern science based on evidence. What level of cocaine intoxication forces a user to rob a convenience store or dance nude on a stage? Is Jeff Skilling from Enron mentally ill? Is every thief and cretin bi-polar? Or is the APA  and the “mental illness” industry the biggest example of a nude emperor out for a promenade?  “Mental illness” is the biggest scam since cannabis prohibition. There is simply no scientific evidence to back it up.  In the 21st century does that mean anything to you? Behrman should redeem his celebrity by writing a book that exposes the cracks and contradictions of the sinister and fascist system of a therapeutic nanny state, a throw back to a medieval system of credulity where angles and demons are the eminence grise behind personal choice and behavior.  

        • Eric_D_Read

          I mostly agree with what your saying. 
          But, just because the Pharma and Psych businesses have created a false epidemic of mentally ill people does not mean that many of the conditions don’t exist. Those who truly have a mental illness are just a small fraction of those who are labelled with an illness. 

        • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

          I addressed some of what your points in the interview, particularly questions about whether he was using his mania as a convenient excuse for his crimes. Not sure if you got to that part – it’s a long conversation, admittedly. 

          We’ll have to agree to disagree regarding the evidence for mental illness and psychiatry. It’s a very broad topic, and I sincerely doubt that I can persuade you to change your mind. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, though. It sounds like you’re on the same page as L. Ron Hubbard and the Scientologists, not that this is an attempt to belittle your opinion – only an observation that others hold it as well.

          • Nik

             Scientology and the Psychiatric Industrial Complex are competing totalitarian ideologies.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             Scientology does not compete with anything. It is a cult and their numbers a dropping rapidly.

          • Sore775

            “Scientology does not compete with anything.”You’re totally wrong. Most Scientology storefronts have a ”Psychiatry Kills” display. Indicating their competition with the mental health industry for lost souls. 
            This forum seems to have a lot of people eager to share their horror stories, as if it’s a badge of status.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             Do not be afraid to belittle he “opinions” of the ignorant. There is no better way to bring to light ignorance then to  mock it and show it for what it is. I have bipolar disorder 1 and without the lithium I hear voices and those voices have lead me toward some very harmful acts upon myself. Yes there are many people simply diagnosed with issues and overly medicated but bipolars and schizophrenics are ill not crazy and denying illness is crazy.

        • Andrew

          What evidence do you have that “psychotically disturbed” people exist?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html   http://www.health.am/psy/psychotic-disorder-due-to-condition/ http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/Rep03.pd That’s just three items of proof off the top of my head. Proof. You can deny it but that doesn’t make it less.

          • http://www.facebook.com/derick.wade Derick Wade

            The only evidence I have that “psych disturbed” people exist, and that I can presently offer is: Please See Most of the Posted Comments Above.
            I,myself, am bi polar. It’s not an excuse for anything or a bid for sympathy. It just is. And I see no reason to try and manipulate or “control” it with the candy of Big Momma Pharma. It’s mine. It’s me. I own it and often enjoy it. And no one shall take it from me.
            In closing, I wish only to say that ” I hate being bi polar. It’s fucking AWESOME!!!”

        • Calypso_1

          Why don’t you welcome the company of the psychotically disturbed?  Are you prejudiced or just unable to play well with others?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

           You are scientifically uneducated. Here is your scientific back up. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html Newest papers published from MIT show the genetic link between the origin of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and disruption of neuro transmitters not receiving proper signals.  I get that you have an opinion but your opinion is founded on ignorance which makes you wrong and foolish. Bipolars have a different brain chemistry that we can literally see now and the genetic failing in Chromosome 14 though no one can figure out how to fix that. I have bipolar disorder. I hear voices. I have impulses to do things I would never do when I am sick. I have spent my life in an out of mental institutions. Surrounded with those who hear voices and ultimately remain lost in the system or die far to early. Please understand that you are in fact the problem and the sooner you see that you are not educated but letting your misinformed opinions spill anyonymously out of your ridiculous mouth you do more harm then good. The amount of scientific information is staggering and considering my library is full of volumes of medical and scientific information I would say this not something you’ve read up on. You sound like a scientologist and perhaps you are but that would only prove my point, you are a sad and misinformed person. Now that I have given you a scientific journal from the leading science university you can change your “stupidity” which my definition means you chose bad information over the current good info or you can read this article and do research then you can form an opinion. What you have here is not an opinion. Opinions are based on knowledge and you have none. Also, the amount of independent research on medical cannabis is staggering. Papers are coming out nearly monthly that prove it is and apparently you aren’t educated on that. You don’t have opinions such as I do built on knowledge and proof, you just talk and hope someone will think you are intelligent but anyone intelligent reading your comment can see you are not. You are small.

          • Showshowmuchyouknow

            “Also, the amount of independent research on medical cannabis is staggering. Papers are coming out nearly monthly that prove it is and apparently you aren’t educated on that.”Huh? Who is denying the efficacy of medpot here?

        • FRAGILEGIRL USA

          I NEVER EVER DID DRUGS BUT IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BRAIN CHEMISTRY OF A BIPOLAR PERSON, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE UNBALANCE OF NEUROTRANSMITTERS MAKES A PERSON LOSE THEIR SENSE OF JUDGEMENT. I DID MANY CRAZY THINGS MYSELF BEFORE BEING TREATED AND NEVER DRANK OR DID DRUGS. BRAIN CHEMICALS ARE VERY POWERFUL…..IN FACT I WAS TOLD BY MY DOCTOR AN EXPERT IN BIPOLAR THAT THE BRAIN CHEMICALS INVOLVED ARE VERY SIMILAR  IN MOLECULAR STRUCTURE TO COCAINE. BIPOLAR IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR CRIMES, IT CAN BE THE CAUSE BEHIND THEM………………………………. 

      • phat_boi

        Geo, aside from everything else, glad your treatment is working for you… Kudos for having a pair and speaking up.

        Aside from that?
        Give it up man. He already knows everything.
        My fiance proved it’s real to me. She’s getting ECT treatment #3 tomorrow. Talk about being in the same room with someone that’s bipolar? I’ve been living with someone that’s bipolar. The symptoms started last summer. She’s had all but one of the symptoms in the DSM. I know with 100% certainty it’s not a crock.

        I also know about the physiological differences in the Amygdala between someone who is healthy and someone with BPD, which can be seen on an MRI. There’s even real science backing it up, and a real scientist studying the physiological differences which can predict what medicines with someone that has BPD will respond best to. Her name is Pamela Mahon.

        Here’s a good dose of it.
        http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/specialty_areas/moods/images/Mood_Matters2011-spring.pdf 

        Mad respect to Andy for turning his life around and making something so negative into something positive and educational. He’s helped me understand what’s happening to my fiance more than any other resource and given me some hope at the darkest point in both our lives.

        I’m a huge fan.

        SXKline really should get evaluated. There’s something going on there. I’m thinking some flavor of mania at the very least. Hopefully he gets help before he hurts himself or someone else, or becomes an addict from self medicating.

        • SXKline

          Didn’t mean to offend your religion, Phat. You seem like a true believer and I’m glad you’re satisfied. You might be able to get some work in the enforcement division of the NIMH. You seem like type willing to do what it takes to put misfits back on-message. . .

          • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

            I hope that one day you’ll have the opportunity to spend time with some floridly psychotic schizophrenics. You might change your mind. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

             The real irony here is that you’re the one with the dogmatic religion. You are refusing to see any evidence that mental illness actually exists, apparently because these facts conflict with your belief system.

            So it is.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

        • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

          Looks like you might be wasting your time with SxKline. I responded to a couple of his comments before I realized I was reading the comments of a zealot. 

          • SxKline

            You people are really missing the boat. Floundering like Christians refuting evolution. That people get into ugly moods is not in dispute. But since the scientific evidence for “mental illness”  is about the same as for that of the Easter Bunny, I choose to call it a cult. Imagine if you had to rely on the same critiera as for geology, bridge contstruction or nuclear medicine. Ok, since the emporer wears no clothes, let’s put ”mental illness” firmly where it belongs: in the religion category.  I propose a Church Of Mental Illness be founded. Should he be so inlcined, Behrman could be its first pope. He could rent out a hall and have church services. At the podium, he might have an ECT zapper in each hand, hurling out thunderbolts to the coke demons that haunt him while parishoners down below swallow handfuls of Prozac and Klonopin or any other drug they choose, swooning in ecstacies of self-loathing, speaking in tongues, handling Pfizer execs with their bare hands and with no fear at all. 

          • Peeps

            Can you please provide references to your statement that “the scientific evidence for “mental illness” is about the same as for that of the Easter Bunny”? I’m most interested in educating myself on it. By the way, why doesn’t Easter Bunny have its own church??

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

          • FRAGILEGIRLUSA

            I AM A VERY STRONG CHRISTIAN SO LETS SEE YOU DOWNPLAY MENTAL ILLNESS AND NOW RELIGIOUS BELIEFS….HMM  WE ARE WOUNDED AREN’T WE?  I FEEL BAD FOR YOU. YOUR NEED FOR ATTENTION IS HUGE! A LITTLE ANGRY ARE WE? ANGER IS UNRECOGNIZED HURT THE MORE I READ OF WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED THE MORE I AM STARTING TO HAVE COMPASSION FOR YOU, ITS OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE IN TONS OF PAIN……I SEE A GREAT NEED IN YOU FOR TONS OF ATTENTION…AND YOUR GETTING IT, SO I AM NOT POSTING ANYMORE IN REGARD TO WHAT YOU SAY OR HAVE SAID, I WONT ENABLE YOU…..NOW GO GET SOME HELP, I PRAY THAT YOU DO.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             I wish I had read this comment before posting about his asshole. He is so offensive and it is like listening to a conspiracy theorist about the moon. There is nothing but proof and yet they simply do not want to accept it because their “knowledge” makes them special. They feel powerful believing they have something others don’t. There is no one in the medical or scientific community that thinks mental illness is a “crock” just this guy and Scientologists (who are profoundly disturbed) who despite the evidence chooses to have a very uneducated opinion. Yet another individual who believes he is smarter than the collective of the the worlds entire medical community. I wish I read your warning about this guy because I’m so annoyed. I just supplied him with actual proof. Solid, concrete proof, and I am sure he will not read it or understand it. People like him serve no purpose and I think you are right.

          • Showshowmuchyouknow

            What religious fervor. What a zealot. Church of Mental Illness indeed.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

          Thank you.

      • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

        I’d be dead right now were it not for my decision to seek the help of a psychiatrist. Dark, stormy moods, obsessive, round-and-round-and-round worrying about stupid, unreasonable things and an inability to snap out of constant obsessive thoughts were making my life a living hell. Thanks to my medication, I’m healthier, happier and more focused. None of what I experienced was in any way imaginary. Incidentally, I’ve got a long family history of men putting shotguns in their mouths. Wonder if there’s a connection? 

    • SxKline

      Listening more intently, this guy has bought the idea of “mental illness” as a real entity. No such thing exists. There is no lab test for it. There is no cellular indicator of any sort. It’s a scam on the level of water dousing or the astrology you read in the newspaper. The canard undermines the court system and removes the principles of personal agency so necessary in a functioning democracy. Throw this joker out. Let him face the truth: his greed, egotism, and lack of restraint caused his woes.

      • Calypso_1

        You’re sorely misinformed.  If you do in fact possess, though I suspect you do not, the scientific background to comprehend these topics I suggest you delve deeper into the current literature.  If instead, willful inscience and contrarian predilection are all that need suffice for your knowledge base, by all means carry on.  You’ll find many a companion for such a journey.

        • Sxkline

          I admit that I’ve never seen the word “inscience” before you wrote it. Kind of cool. A willful disregard for knowledge? Anyway, I didn’t notice you giving any counterarguments to some of the important issues I raise. The pharmacratic state is a real entity that exhibits real effects on people and their civil rights. Compounded by the “mental health” industry’s remarkable absence of scientific evidence in almost every category, or even valid criteria as a science (defined by the standard Popperian falisifiablility of data sets). These issues should be looked at by many more people, and discussed. 

          • Calypso_1

            I’ve been working on Fourier spectrum analysis of correlations in gene expression of cytokines and arachidonic acid in individuals with bipolar disorder that experience inter-hemispheric switching manifested in alterations of saccadic eye movement.  I was having some difficulties with one of the correlation matrices so I decided to run the “Standard Popperian falisifiablility of data sets” and found that I was in fact not even doing science. 
            It’s a good thing I took that class on scientific glass blowing – I can always open a head shop.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html There is no absence of proof we can see the screwed up genes and we can see the difference in brain pattern. You are misinformed by choice and that makes you stupid. In the truest sense of the word. you are deeply stupid.

      • Sfinx

        I wish you such a disease to learn more about it…if it does exist or not!

        • Sxkline

          “I wish you such a disease to learn more about it….”
          harharhar. Spoken like a street-corner Christian admonishing an atheist about hell…. And on the same footing as well “There is no exit from hell!….Repent! There is no exit from hell! Do not look at the man behind the curtain. . .” harharhar lol

          • SXkline

            Also, if it were not for the accidental discovery of sedatives like barbituates and lithium psychiatrists would be sharing shacks with palm readers right now. 

          • Calypso_1

            Yes the synthesis of barbitic acid by Nobel Prize winning organic chemist Adolf von Baeyer and the synthesis of Barbitone by Nobel winner Emil Fischer were quite accidental.
            It’s how most chemists work. They run around with a blindfold until they trip over a random molecule and eureka! – drug discovery.

          • Dutty

             I see your points & agree with you.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_425GVKQCLFZMQYYENR7CJBRDVA jb

        I’ve personally known people who suffer from genuine mental illness.

        You’re wrong.

        Ever owned a computer with a software bug? There’s no physical indicator of that either. That’s what the mind is – software running on the brain. Whatever side court issues that can emerge from our society attempting to deal with mental illness, have nothing to do with the fact that mental illness exists.

        • Sxkline

          You people are really missing the boat. Floundering like Christians refuting evolution. That people get into ugly moods is not in dispute. But since the scientific evidence for “mental illness”  is about the same as for that of the Easter Bunny, I choose to call it a cult. Imagine if you had to rely on the same critiera as for geology, bridge contstruction or nuclear medicine. Ok, since the emporer wears no clothes, let’s put ”mental illness” firmly where it belongs: in the religion category.  I propose a Church Of Mental Illness be founded. Should he be so inlcined, Behrman could be its first pope. He could rent out a hall and have church services. At the podium, he might have an ECT zapper in each hand, hurling out thunderbolts to the coke demons that haunt him while parishoners down below swallow handfuls of Prozac and Klonopin or any other drug they choose, swooning in ecstacies of self-loathing, speaking in tongues, handling Pfizer execs with their bare hands and with no fear at all. 

          • Andrew

            All you wanted was a Pepsi.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

             http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UPNF2DXSEZ7DPE5OEXTK7S4NQ Jason L

         You are wrong. There are tests. I’ve undergone them. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/disc1-mutation-schizophrenia-1117.html

      • fragilegirlusa

        There may not be a lab test, but MRI scans show differences in the brains of people with bipolar, ptsd, adhd and so forth, perhaps you should research that. 

    • Clay

       SKKline you are the one off your crock.  Mental illness is real.  I suffer from Clinical depression.  I have ti break up with a girl friend because she suffered from Border Line Personality Disorder.   When you have someone yelling and physically attacking you because you talked to them with a bad tone of voice you will know what mental illness is.  It’s very real. They may not have all the scientific evidence,  but they are looking.  These things take time.

      As for the medication,  not all peoples problems are solved by medication.  Metal illnesses were not created to sell medication.  The mental illness exists because there was a need.  Some doctors may prescribe the medication incorrectly, but that is the same for anti-bionics.  How often are people given anti-bionics when they have a viral infection.  This problem is a issue with the way doctors practice medicine. 

      Personally, I suffered from depression and anxiety for years until I gave in and started take Anti-depressants.  Now, my life is great.  I have never felt better.   Anti-depressants are not for everyone, but they are me.  It also turns out my two sister suffer in a similar manner.  It’s genetic in my family.  My Dad suffered as well, but he found alcohol a Xanex before they came out with Anti-depressant.  He has past away from an Alcohol related problem.  I wonder if he discovered Anti-depressant and stopped drinking, if he could have lived longer.

      In conclusion, I can garentee that that mental illness is real.  Anyone who says it’s not real, should maybe see if they have a mental illness.  The medication is just a patch to solve a problem we don’t a have a good solution yet. For now, the medication helps many people get by on a day-to-day basis. Without, many lives may be wasted much like my fathers.

      Clayton Paige
       

      • FRAGILE GIRL USA

        RIGHT ON CLAY!

    • Calypso_1

      The most recent studies show that men and women with bipolar disorder have a lifespan 16.3 and 13.6 years shorter than the average population -  and that is factoring out suicide.  As many as 1 out of 5 individuals with Type I commit suicide.  Up to 50% attempt suicide.
       

  • DeepCough

    Bipolar disorder is a crock, and I don’t know why Behrman still buys into it in spite of having worked
    for the pharmaceutical companies that produce drugs like Abilify and hand it out like it’s “happy candy.”

    • ames

      Abilify doesn’t make everybody happy, so good that you get that out of it.  If I was bipolar like you and have mood swings of laughter, and after being on abilify I’ve evened my laughter outburts and I’m more stable.  Hope you can find some happiness in knowing you have a friend on the same thing

      • DeepCough

        Huh?

    • http://www.facebook.com/derick.wade Derick Wade

      Ok fecal leak..YES, you are correct. There is no such beast as bi polar. That’s just a convenient label created to make billing easier and more uniform. But, there are symptoms which fit the definitions of mania and depression. There are experiences of anhedonia, anxiety, irritability, hopelessness, euphoria etc. And it appears that they are, atleast primarily, resultant from a kind of daimonic alchemy of fucked up chemistry. Much like Love. Or the experience of mourning loss. Or a moment of mercurial anger. Some people experience a wider range of emotion, of affect, of sensitivity to life..and also to the brains chemical activity. There is a spectrum of feeling and emotion, and just as some people are color blind, or more insensitive to physical pain, or in possession of a highly active olfactory sense, or able to “hear”y  colors etc. some people occasionally become super sexed, extra talkative and enjoy a fluidity and increased rapidity of thought and linguistic association, inference, and punning while at other times feel emotionally numb, without any sense of hope ( a horrible state to be in) and “defective”.

  • Motley_71

    Deep Cough – Try living with it then tell us all its a crock! Your the crock loser….

    • DeepCough

      How about you try living with a real disease, like CKD, and you tell me how your fucking day is, you self-righteous, deluded cuntwipe.

  • Lillian

    if you don’t have the illness, you’re never going to understand it. but for godsake don’t just sit there and trash people who are bipolar if you don’t know what it’s like.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JimmyHolley1 Academician Lucko

    Ok, i think the real point has been lost in the flame war.

    Is there real mental illness? Yes.

    Is there ten times as much over diagnosis and medication in the name of both profit and enforcement of social conformity? Yes.

    Both of you are right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JimmyHolley1 Academician Lucko

    As a biochemist, what i want to see psychology adopt is actual biological testing for mental disorder. There should be more involved than the assumptions of a man with a huge conflict of interest if youre going to label someone as terminally defective.

  • sara

    I was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder 2 years ago. I was skeptical but desperate for an explanation for my out of control moods. Mental illness is real. When you can go from thinking you can do anything and be anything to attempting suicide in a week there is something wrong. That was me and i’m sure i would be dead if i didn’t get help. Pharmaceutical companies take advantage and unfortunately that delegitimizes real problems.

  • ames

    If a cult was started and the leader died, there would be an automatic replacement without any change to the groups of followers; a secret cult of beleivers without a book, is the only way to not confuse your faith.

  • ames

    If there is no power over a group of people could, not showing them a power we have in ourselfs be the solution to the end of selfrichousness?

  • ames

    I would want to read your book,  50 Things You Shouldn’t Know About Religion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000480492140 Tony Traverso

    What is funny is for me suffering from mental illness since I was a kid (I’m 44 now) I learned that religion and Jesus are bullshit. By the time I was 30, I got tired of praying to God who wasn’t there to listen to me, to stop the terrible feelings I had been living through daily. Since I stopped praying, and actually started taking meds, I feel better, not perfect, but better than I have felt in the past. The one positive thing I got out of this whole experience is I learned to rely on myself, and forget the bullshit of a god helping me. Some could say that in fact a god did help me because I am feeling better now, but I know in my heart that religion is a copout for not wanting to stand on your own two feet and face your fears. Religion gives people a false sense of security, something they can glom onto because they don’t want to feel they are alone in this big world. But I live my life now happier than I ever was when I was praying to the old white haired guy in the clouds. If I am wrong about a god existing, then I’ll deal with that situation when the time comes. For now I am god and religion free.

    • http://www.facebook.com/derick.wade Derick Wade

      You may be God free, but no religion (Belief) free. You still believe, it’s just that NOW, you believe in disbelief

      • Clay

         LOL  Wow, people who are religious just don’t get it.  Its easier to know there isn’t a god then to believe there is a god.  Faith involves knowing something without evidence.  Not believing is something completely different.

        • http://www.facebook.com/derick.wade Derick Wade

          “people who are religious just don’t get it” Well, I suppose I should be thankful I am not religious then. Yes, faith and disbelief are completely different, but both still involve belief. Belief in Something or Belief in Nothing. Still belief. Perhaps you should brush up on your analytical and reasoning skills before you generalize and make statements that are not logically sound or easily defended.
          P.S. Is it really easier to know than to believe? Think about that. If your statement were true, if knowing was easy, it would, in most cases, totally negate the need for belief. You wouldn’t need to believe (base your opinion on faith) you’d know (based on factual evidence). No, knowing isn’t easy. Belief is easy. Just ask any UFologist.

  • Sam

    No mental illness? I suppose you don’t believe in strokes or brain damage either.  Maybe you don’t believe in death or pain or injury.

    Personally I think you are just here to make people mad. 

    Now THAT is mental illness.

  • linglee4444

    SXKline. Spoken like a person who has no idea what he’s talking about at all in reality. So many of you. Bi polar runs the body down like after running a marathon and does the same thing to the brain as well. Constant barrage of informational over load that takes the body and mind down after a week or so of hyper thinking. No sleeping for days, highs and lows, then crash-sleeping only to wake up depressed and feeling dizzy and sick. When you want others to listen to you you should really know the facts first. I am bi polar. It is a sickness like no other and there are different effects and degrees to which it attacks. So shut up. Fool.

    • DeepCough

      Oh, this is a disease that affects the human body? Care to give me a histology of “bipolar disorder?”

      • Calypso_1

        Go to any medical library and you can come up with hundreds of journal articles.  I’ll give you a taste. 

        Decreased Mitochondrial Function and Increased Brain Inflammation in BipolarDisorder and Other Neuropsychiatric Diseases
        http://www.mastcellmaster.com/documents/brain-health/J-Clin-Psychopharm-2011-Brain-Inflammation.pdf

        Elevation of cerebrospinal fluid interleukin-1β in bipolar disorder
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044194/

        Altered arachidonic acid cascade enzymes in postmortem brain from bipolar disorder patients
        http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n4/full/mp2009137a.html

        The neurobiology of bipolar disorder: findings using human postmortem central nervous system tissue.
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14961931

        • Fin765

          Calypso you must be making money off the mental illness hoax or you wouldn’t be so vehement.Come clean. How do you pay your bills.

          • Calypso_1

            Only a few days a week; on the weekends I lead a crack team of chemtrail analysts and preach christ crucified and raised from the dead on Sunday.

          • Jin The Ninja

            calypso, while not an unquiet critic of many facets of western medicine, and alternately someone who does not and probably will not participate in future discussions about mental health- i appreciate your advocacy of this group, and of actual science and studies of mental health, because i (quietly) recognise mental illness to exist, and its effects on people and their families to exist, and while i may not have a very nuanced grasp of the jargon and the science (and do not agree with every facet of it) i think its discussion is both important and interesting, and i personally appreciate that you maintain your position in the face of some very unconstructive criticisms.

        • DeepCough

          That’s all quite interesting, but you just basically proved psychiatry to be false by demonstrating that there are studies that show bipolar is a neurological problem, not a psychological one.

          • Calypso_1
          • DeepCough

            Wow, you must be desperate to use the Chewbacca Defense.

          • Calypso_1

            exactly

          • DeepCough

            But… THAT DOES NOT MAKE SINSE!

          • Calypso_1

            look at the monkey

          • http://www.facebook.com/derick.wade Derick Wade

            If it is in fact a neurological “problem” do you honestly not see how the neurological affects the psychological? 

    • Ruhde

      amen! I just spent last week in a state of hypomania-nothing super hardcore, but draining enough that I spent the last couple of days in bed. when I have a manic episode, my skin hurts, it is almost flu-like & the aftermath is like the worst hangover ever.

  • linglee4444

    Saying bi polar is a crock of shit is like saying cancer doesnt hurt.

  • FRAGILE GIRL USA

    SXKline, HOW DARE YOU DOWN PLAY SUCH A SERIOUS LIFE THREATENING DISEASE, IT ALMOST KILLED ME MORE TIMES THAN YOU WANT TO KNOW. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE SUFFERED FOR ALMOST FORTY YEARS WITH SUCH A DEBLITATING DISEASE. I HAVE SUFFERED OTHER HORRIFIC ILLNESSES THAT ARE COMORBID WITH BIPOLAR AND ONE SO LIFE THREATENING CALLED MELENCHOLIC DEPRESSION. I AM LUCKY THAT I DIDN’T DIE OF MALNUTRITION AND DEHYDRATION AS MANY DO.  ONE IN TEN PEOPLE DIE FROM IT., 3O% PERCENT OF PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR DISEASE LEFT UNTREATED WILL DIE FROM BIPOLAR, GET A GRIP ON YOURSELF AND GET THAT HUGE CHIP OFF YOUR SHOULDER. UNTIL YOU HAVE WALKED IN A MAN’S SHOES YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH, CANCER WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER FOR ME TO  DEAL WITH..I WORKED WITH CANCER PATIENTS FOR YEARS SO I KNOW WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT …IT’S  PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE YOU THAT MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK THE HORRIFIC STIGMA IN REGARD TO MENTAL ILLNESS. IT’S PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ANDY, I AND OTHERS FIGHT TO EDUCATE AGAINST THEIR IGNORANCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS. WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION……………………………………?

    • TABITHAPEBBLES

      READ MY STORY “BREAKING THE CHAINS OF A BIPOLAR MENTALITY’ BY AUTHOR KAREN RENKEN, GOOGLE IT. THANKS TO ANDY FOR HIS AMAZING BOOK “ELECTROBOY”  WHICH HELPED ME TO SURVIVE. IT IS THE STORY OF HOW WE MET..

  • mentalhealthadv

    SXKline, I am quite impressed that it doesn’t seem to bother you a bit to express your ignorance in such a public forum. If you would like to continue your research into such ”pseudoscience,” I would suggest obtaining a copy of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV). It should prove interesting reading for such an enlightened person as yourself.

  • mentalhealthadv

    SXKline, I am quite impressed that it doesn’t seem to bother you a bit to express your ignorance in such a public forum. If you would like to continue your research into such ”pseudoscience,” I would suggest obtaining a copy of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV). It should prove interesting reading for such an enlightened person as yourself.