60,000 Ultra-Orthodox Jews Protest the Evils of the Internet

InternetThe sub-headline is priceless, “15,000 Hasidic women watched speeches at six sites thanks to live-streaming on the Internet.” Via the New York Daily News:

A mass rally for men only drew more than 40,000 ultra-Orthodox Jews to Citi Field Sunday to denounce the Internet and its pervasive impact on family life.

An overflow crowd of another 20,000 bearded men sporting long black coats and big black hats filled nearby Arthur Ashe Stadium for the unprecedented attack on modern technology.

Unable to enter the Queens stadiums because of the strict separation of the sexes enforced by the organizers, more than 15,000 Hasidic women watched the speeches at six sites across the tristate area — thanks to live-streaming on the Internet.

The rally was organized by a little-known rabbinical group called Ichud Hakehillos L’tohar Hamachane — the Union of Communities for the Purity of the Camp — to spread the word that online activities can lead to porn, child abuse and other acts of immorality…

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobbie-Jean-Pentecost/100000391760333 Bobbie Jean Pentecost

    60,000 Ultra-Orthodox COMPLETE FUCKING MORONS show the world exactly how retarded they are. There ya go, fix’t. I mean really, evils of the internet? If, IF, I-F, there were any “evils of the internet,” it would by necessity be the evils of man since the internet is a thing and thus not capable of evil. Basically they’re protesting humanity, or they’re too stupid to realize that’s what they’re doing. These people should be roundly mocked.

    • gxg

      Consider them mocked.

    • Alive

      There are some evils on the internet, nothing is purely good and nothing is completely evil. These individuals are extreme which is kind of insane. I believe they are saying the internet is evil relative to their subculture, because the internet speeds up entropy of the group, by putting the access to the texts of different ideologies at their finger tips. They are trying to stay conservative and keep the status quo of the sect. Its a losing battle, entropy as dictated by thermal dynamics always wins and that applies to any system.

    • SF2K01

      The vast majority of the people who attended weren’t there to protest the evils of the internet. They were tricked by the organizers into thinking that the gathering was supposed to be about positive ways to learn to live with the internet. That’s actually how it was advertised. But the zealots who run it were just looking for another opportunity to foam at the mouth about how bad the internet is.

  • Pckmark

    Did the author by any chance confuse the Amish with Jews?  Another low-point of religion…

  • Monkey See Monkey Do

    Religious people dont seem to understand irony.

  • GoodDoktorBad

    ” — thanks to live-streaming on the Internet.”

    LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002681307124 Living Wood Flutes

    one of those aha moments.. religion has ruined this planet..

  • Established Poster

    Jews=stupid.  Christians just as bad.  I on the other hand prescribe to a Noetics/Agnostic approach.  Don’t try to zero in on any real definite claims from me though.  I will dodge them.  I specialize in rejection of any kind of truth without establishing a counter claim.

    • Established Loser

      If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

    • Adamsshadow

      Counter-claim is…organized religion has done and will do more harm than good; find your own path and synthesize/integrate several spiritual traditions (including the Abrahamic if you so desire) for best individual results.  Rinse, repeat.

    • Virtual_Anthropologist

      Hello,
      I’d like to introduce myself on this website.  I am a doctoral student and am getting ready to write my dissertation for Sociocultural Anthropology.  The title will be “Cultural anthropology in the virtual space: How tribes are re-emerging as the basic social unit online.  Or, investigating the development of social order on internet forums.”

      As you can imagine, I am currently conducting research for this paper; the subject of which I find most intriguing.  I have been reading the posts on ‘Disinfo’ for some time now, trying to gauge the tone of the social order.  It is interesting to note that a very defined order has been long established here, and yet, from time to time someone new comes along and upsets the equilibrium.

      Not only do you seem to have recently become a rather established poster on this forum, I have also identified you as a rogue element in the ‘Disinfo’ tribe.  As such, I believe that you would be an ideal subject for me to study.  You shall be the lens through which I can better examine the true natures of the other members of the ‘Disinfo’ tribe who hew closely to their established social norms.

      I find it interesting to see how a group of clearly intelligent individuals who claim to self-identify as non-conformists fall so smoothly and easily into groupthink.  In the comments of virtually every article here, and consensus swiftly emerges as the herd closes ranks.  Such an interesting phenomenon.

      So, EP (if I may call you EP), what do you say to my proposal?

      Consider me Jane Goodall to your clan of over-educated chimps.

      -Virtual Anthropologist

      • Established Poster

         You chose wisely.  Let me just give you a taste of some of the words I regularly use as part of my vocabulary: Heterogeneous, proverbial, perennial, contingent, phenotype, diaspora, anthropogenic, extrapolate, fallacious, specious and literally anything ending in “ism.”  You will see that we use these any many more like it all of the time.  I am not threatening you, but just let that be a warning that if you challenge us…we will destroy you via lexicon-isms.  Be particularly careful about your spelling and grammar.  We don’t care if you mess those things up, that is until we don’t agree with you. 

        Before we take this any farther, go brush up  on these topics; ad hominem, straw man, pleading to authority, false dichotomy and any other logical errors most newbies make.

        If you are facist, Republican, Christian, troll, fundie, anti-drug, pro-life, or just supportive of the gov’t in any way take a hike and don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.  All of those types are arrogant and closed minded.  We require an plastic, open mind here.  We are sick and tired of all of those who claim to know everything making life so hard for those of us who actually do.

        • Virtual_Anthropologist

           I rather suspected that I did indeed choose wisely.  Not only have you become an established and prolific poster on this forum, you are the only one I have seen who actually engages in a meaningful level of self-analysis.  Granted, your analysis of yourself and fellow chimpanzees is drenched in sarcasm and caustic wit.  However, I believe this is the evidence of a perceptive soul with a piercing intellect.

          Somehow you have fallen into the same trap as your fellow tribesmen – a ritual of approval-seeking through a demonstration of superior wit and disdain – and yet at the same time you apply these techniques to critique the group itself. 

          Surely, you have slipped the surly bonds of earth-bound thoughts,
          and glimpsed the undiscovered land. 
          Truly, you are something of an ascended soul amongst
          the whips and scorns of time, the oppressor’s wrong,
          the grunt and sweat of a weary life.

          High up, in the sunlit silence,
          of true awareness and enlightenment. 
          Hovering there, where never lark, nor even eagle flew,
          there, somehow, you demonstrate,
          to me,
          the truth that is,
          that was,
          that ever hid from me.

          Poetry aside…

          I hope that I have shown you an intellect on par with that demanded by the group.  And as such, that you will not only not reject my advances, but that you will embrace them.

          -Virtual Anthropologist

          • Established Poster

             Monkey see monkey do seems to like you.  Notice how he is establishing rapport through common interests all the while defaming his  competition.  He also is hesitant at how genuine you are and wants to sniff your ass so to speak.  Problem is, this means you are no longer the outside observer.  Here the fundamental particles will not be changed by the observer but the other way around.  He fancies himself a member of intelligentsia.  As long as you do not challenge that he is harmless. 

          • Virtual_Anthropologist

             Perhaps.  I hope to avoid direct interaction as much as possible.  I understand that I am visible, and must be something of a novelty.  It is only natural that playful, intelligent, and curious beings such as yourselves will approach me.

            Once I complete, and successfully defend my dissertation, I will indeed post it here (if Columbia allows me).  It is right and proper that my subjects, being sentient creatures, should see the fruits of the work that they contributed to.

            But more to your point, you bring up a pertinent danger.  Not that I will affect the social dynamic – this is a foregone conclusion – but that I (the supposed detached and ideal observer) will be effected in a way not noticeable to myself.

            I can only gird my loins in preparation and do my best to prevent such a catastrophe from occurring.

      • Monkey See Monkey Do

        Can you post your dissertation on disinfo? This ‘tribe’ generally likes an open platform on which to dissect ideas. There are many more interesting people to study on these forums, EP just sounds like a frustrated teenager, but, your choice.  

        - Over-educated chimp and fellow anthroplogist.

  • Mr Willow

    ‘Men Only’ meeting organised to discuss ‘the evils of the internet’ causes women banned from the event—strictly based upon their gender—to use what can now only be referred to as ‘the devil’s construct’ as a means of viewing the event? 

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. 

  • Alive

    meh who cares must be the hot middle eastern sun.

  • Anarchy Horse

    Religion Breads Stupidity. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Cumberland/654320563 James Cumberland

      After religion breads stupidity, does it deep-fry it or bake it? 

      • Anarchy Horse

        TOASTS IT! 

  • Nunzio X

    OY GE-fuckin’-VALT!

  • http://www.zoboprepublic.wordpress.com/ zobop republic

    Do these ultra-religious people wants us to go back to the Dark Ages? 

  • None None

    I am NOT Ultra-Orthodox… This wasn’t a protest against internet usage.  The rabbis are suggesting filters be used so that, if someone looks at porn, child porn, or engages in immodest activity over the internet, their rabbi will be made aware of this electronically. 

    Very poor research you’ve done on your article. 

    As for Bobbie Jean Pentecost’s comment, you should know that the Ultra-Orthodox DO use the internet and do not discount it as a vital tool for work and Jewish outreach.  They are just creating stricter guidelines for their communities to ensure purity.

    Hey, better than the Catholic Church covering up for their sickos who molest young children.  At least the Jews are doing something to attempt to keep the sick behavior from spreading.  Even if it is no substitute for not being a sicko in the first place, at least their intentions are good.

    At least somebody is doing something about it.  And, frankly, if your not a Jew, it’s none of your business.  We’ve been around for over 3,300 years and are still here for a reason.  We know how to keep it real, and stay together, and keep from spiritual corruption.  Every other nation has died, but we have survived longer than anyone (along with the Chinese, and Indians) because of our wisdom.

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