White Births No Longer a Majority in U.S.

BabyNote that the non-white U.S. population will still remain a minority for several decades. What will be the implications of a multi-racial (future) America? Reports the AP via the Christian Science Monitor:

For the first time, racial and ethnic minorities make up more than half the children born in the US, capping decades of heady immigration growth that is now slowing.

New 2011 census estimates highlight sweeping changes in the nation’s racial makeup and the prolonged impact of a weak economy, which is now resulting in fewer Hispanics entering the US.

“This is an important landmark,” said Roderick Harrison, a former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau who is now a sociologist at Howard University. “This generation is growing up much more accustomed to diversity than its elders.” The report comes as the Supreme Court prepares to rule on the legality of Arizona’s strict immigration law, with many states weighing similar get-tough measures. “We remain in a dangerous period where those appealing to anti-immigration elements are fueling a divisiveness and hostility that might take decades to overcome,” Mr. Harrison said…

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  • http://internetkhole.blogspot.com/ Pb

    Prof. Juan Cole has a great counter to this piece: http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/minority-births-the-majority-on-how-the-whole-idea-of-white-people-is-made-up.html

  • Hadrian999

    the same people bitching about affordable birth control are probably bitching about this too

  • Anarchy Pony

    Well I guess it’s time for the race war…

    • Jin The Ninja

      come one, come all. personally i am awaiting the ‘JinisRetarded’ poster, a favourite of mine.

  • Bezrker

    What will be the implications of a multi-racial (future) America?  muli-racial can only be a good thing I am sure. people getting married solely on love of one other? how can that be a bad thing?

    • Jin The Ninja

      i’m a multi generational multi racial person, and i’ve always held a high level of interest in diasporas (particularly asian-american/hapa identity)  and historical multi racial pop’ns (bergher, indo/singa eurasian, metis, central asian etc etc). so of course i think it is very good and very interesting as an idea.

      • Anarchy Pony

        Well it should lead to hybrid vigor, a concept that white supremacists couldn’t grasp if you hit them over the head with it. Repeatedly. 

        • Jin The Ninja

           dude, i am all about ‘hybrid vigour’- while only ever a middling biology student, i always enjoyed it.

          • Anarchy Pony

            Ba dum tish!

        • Kudzu_Bob

           Well it should lead to hybrid vigor

          You mean like Mexico, for instance? Now that’s really something to look forward to!

          • Jin The Ninja

            i think, hawaii, singapore, or brazil are better examples of heterogeneous mixed race populations.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Nonsense. The whites of southern Brazil want to secede, Hawaii was taken over by whites, and Singapore is run by the Chinese who provide the Malays with affirmative action crumbs. On the other hand, Mexico has an explicit ideology that centered on the idea of “La raza cósmica.”

          • Jin The Ninja

            singapore has a historical pop’n of eurasians, first from the dutch, then from the british (as does sri lanka), not to mention interracial marriage between euro and sino- pop’ns has been socially acceptable since at least the 1950s. and while the malays are part of an oppressed minority culture- just up the strait in malaysia, there are thousands of pernakan malay-chinese. yes, brasil has a large european contingent, but it also has vastly heterogeneous urban pop’n. Hawaii WAS stolen by dole and the americans (i’m not sure what your point is here), but they have one of the most concetrated multi racial pop’ns in the world. ‘Hapa’ a word used to refer to eurasians, amerasians, and mixed-asian people comes from the pidgin word for ‘half.’

          • Kudzu_Bob

            You want to talk about any multiracial country except for the really, really big one that is right on our doorstep, don’t you?

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’m happy to discuss mexico, but i’d rather use my examples because i have a greater familiarity with them and their histories. you can’t really seperate the modern politics of mexico without discussing the colonial reprocussions which have greatly affected mexican culture- and politics. metizo culture, which arose from colonisation, i am happy to discuss. i am unsure of any point you are trying to make. and fyi mexico is not my border country.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            I’ll keep it simple, then. Mexico kind of sucks. That’s generally true of mulitracial societies, to judge from immigration patterns. Brown people don’t move to non-white countries much, partly because most non-white countries suck, partly because the few non-white countries that don’t suck (Japan, for instance) won’t let them in, since they don’t believe in multiracialism.

          • Jin The Ninja

             immigration is a very complex issue, intersected by various political and economic policies (ideologies) that include, colonialism (historical), imperialism (historical and contemporary), neo-liberalism (economic colonialism), wars of resources, and euro-american hegemony to name some of the biggest offenders. and again, multi raciality is the hybridisation of identity  by being born of multiple racial and ethnic groups. it is not a political ideology and it is very much not the same thing as multi culturalism.

          • Aungsan

            Lol, this guy is afraid that “the Mexicans” might invade him.

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol. he’s scared of the ‘brown’ people, whomever they may be. it’s a strange thing to be mixed in america, i’ve plenty of experience in that arena. i’m always asked at the border, why i have a chinese last name. it always seemed to me that many americans (even well intentioned ones) have difficulty understanding that someone can be MULTI racial- that is both white (or black or brown) and OTHER. you are forced to pick one, or people will readily assume you’re lebanese or puerto rican like they did with me. lol.

          • Aungsan

            It reminds me of a friend, an Australian of Iranian origin, he talked like an Australian, had a nice blue passport, but immigration was always concerned that his passport said place of birth “Tehran”, that got all the alarms ringing; I know is not the best example, but just talking about immigration makes think of so many experiences, for me, even though I’m Latino in the US they think I’m Muslim, last time they even asked me if I believe in god, I guess they were waiting for an explanation of how Allah is so great. 

          • Kudzu_Bob

             More demonization. I’m not scared of brown people, who have no power, but of whites who fall for nonsense.

            As for the rest of your post, it directly contradicts your claim to be a white person or an Asian because you choose to think of yourself as such.

          • Aungsan

            Who fall for what nonsense? to believe that non-whites are actually people? yeah, better be careful with that.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            To say that the world should be multiracial is to say that individual races should not exist. That is the essence of multiculturalism.

          • Aungsan

            No, is so obvious you are just worried about your white skin and nothing more.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            And so now not wanting to be genocided makes me a bad person. Got it.

          • Aungsan

            With every comment you are celebrating the genocide against indigenous tribes, but somehow is “brown” people the one threatening you? get a life, moron.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            It’s only genocide when it happens to non-whites. When it happens to whites it’s progress, or multiculturalism, or diversity, or brotherly love.

          • Aungsan

            Really, stop smoking whatever you are smoking, “the Mexicans” are not going to invade you.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Tell it to the Californians.

          • Aungsan

            Do you even know why southern states have city names like Los Angeles, or Las Vegas, or San Francisco? because white settlers stole that from Mexico in the first place, and México is not asking it back, so go and learn some history, moron.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            You mean white Spaniards settled Mexico, who then lost a war with America. And now Mestizos are swarming across the border to colonize America.

            The Mestizos coming here don’t want to pry the Southwest loose from America and make it part of Mexico. Mexico doesn’t have any money, as is usually the case with multiracial societies.

          • Aungsan

            No, I mean white settlers who were accepted into México to then make war and annex those states to the union. 

            Isn’t the US deeply indebted with the world, don’t you need a lot of credit for your military adventures, from China, Japan, Brazil, among other countries?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            So the Mexican multiracialists accepted a bunch of white settlers, did they? How’d that work out for them? They happy with the outcome?

          • Aungsan

            And you seriously think that “the Mexicans” are going to do the same to you? really?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            You didn’t respond to the question because you know that the answer calls into question the wonderfulness of multiculturalism.

          • Aungsan

            Multiculturalism is very different from multiracial, as Jin already pointed out, the white settlers didn’t mixed, didn’t incorporated into society, they just stole the land.

            You didn’t respond to the question because you know only a nut-job would say yes.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            All Jim pointed out was his ignorance of the competitive exclusion principle, just as you do.

            If multiculltiracialthingeestuff is so good, how come the Mexicans were unhappy with inviting in people of a different race?

          • Aungsan

            You are the one who is showing your lack of understanding of what multiracial means, also your lack of history lessons, they weren’t unhappy, they believed that the white settlers would help develop that part of the country, instead the settlers made war, the sin is not on the Mexicans, is on the white people that made war, and no matter how you try to bend it, it will remain that way.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            So multiracialism is bad when white people move into a non-white country, but good when non-white people move into a white country. Got it.

          • Aungsan

            Is bad when the ones entering don’t believe in it and want to steal the land, no matter what race are we talking about.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Then you believe that illegal immigrants to America should be expelled, then.

          • Aungsan

            Do you believe illegal immigrants are out there to conquer you?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Four legs good, two legs bad! Non-whites good, whites bad!

          • Aungsan

            Do you believe illegal immigrants are out there to conquer you?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            The ocean doesn’t conquer a lifeboat, it swamps it. And white countries are tiny boats in a non-white ocean. If every non-white who wanted to came to the white world, then whites would eventually cease to exist. Ask the Neanderthals how co-existence with the Cro Magnons worked out, or the Indians how white settlement worked out.

          • Aungsan

            So that is a yes! 

            I feel sorry for your pathetic existence that believes that somehow other people are a plague that is out there to erase you from this planet, all based in the color of a skin! how very bigoted of you, little boy.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Spoken like a true secret policeman: “Und zo by your own words you admit zat you tink white people have a right to egg-zeest! You are racist swine!” Tell it to somebody who actually thinks that you have some sort of moral authority.

          • Aungsan

            Not at all, I’m just laughing at your delusional belief that non-whites are an existential threat to whites, better go and hide from those “Mexicans”, they are out to get you!

          • Kudzu_Bob

            You think that anybody who thinks that his people have a right to exist is crazy. Got it.

          • Aungsan

            Trolling too much? not at all, white people have a right to exist, so I’ll repeat the comment to see if this time you get it:

            Not at all, I’m just laughing at your delusional belief that non-whites are an existential threat to whites, better go and hide from those “Mexicans”, they are out to get you!

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Either white people have a right to exist or they must open up their countries to the vast numbers of non-whites. I know which one you believe.

          • Aungsan

            Nooooo, don’t open your country to the “Mexicans”, is genocide! where are the god-fearing and god-loving white people going to hide! those savages have no respect! build a fence, electrocute them, don’t let them!

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Anti-whites aren’t very smart. It makes arguing with them terribly boring. A pity.

          • Aungsan

            ah, we were arguing? I’m just making fun of you. And, anti-white? come on.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            It’s not your fault you’re unintelligent. Blame your parents for the bad genes they stuck you with. But you should cool the anti-white stuff before you make yourself look even dumber and more hate-filled than you already do.

          • Aungsan

            I belong to mensa dumba**, if anyone looks stupid is the one that has the belief that any race is superior to other, I certainly don’t, I respect everybody as an equal no matter the color of their skin, and I judge by actions not by race, unlike you.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            You’re lying about not being anti-white, so why should I believe that you’re in Mensa? Certainly nothing you’ve written bespeaks even normal intelligence.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Oh, wait. Now I get it. You meant to write DENSA, ddn’t you? As in, Aungsan is DENSA than most folks. Typos can be a bitch. Sorry, didn’t mean to pic on a retard, I mean, differently abled.

          • Aungsan

            oh, you are mad because I’m making fun of your bigotry, oh, you poor little redneck. Try harder.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            The stupid, eeet eees too much! Noooooooooooooooooo!

          • Aungsan

            Ok Billy Bob, go eat a cookie, say your prayers and then go to sleep.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            I would like to, but I am laughing too hard at an alleged “anti-racist” who boasts (falsely, no doubt) of belonging to a high-IQ society that has virtually no black members.

          • Andrew

            To say that the world should be multicultural is not to say that individual races should not exist.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Of course it is. Read about the competitive exclusion principle.

      • JaceD

        Power to the multi generational multi racial people! (I’m Maori-European myself)

      • Kudzu_Bob

        If multiracial societies are desirable, then why are non-whites always trying to get into only white countries? It is only Europe, America, and Australia that are inundated with non-white immigrants.

        • Jin The Ninja

          neither america nor australia are ‘white’ countries, they actually belonged to ‘brown’ people long before they were colonised. you mistake multi-cultural (a very euro-american concept) with multi-racial- which is racial admixtures whether historical or contemporaneous.

          • Kudzu_Bob

             More obvious nonsense. America and Australia were not countries until they were settled by whites. Prior to that they were land masses sparsely inhabited by technologically primitive non-whites who certainly never thought of themselves as living in a “country.” In this respect they are quite different from places such as China or India.

          • Jin The Ninja

            certainly ‘nation-states’ as a concept is based on relatively modern politial science, but in the sense the indigenous inhabitants had nations within a territory is true. they still existed as geographical locales with distinct cultures. cartography and area studies are both highly ethnocentric concepts (leaning heavily on eurocentric conceits), but admittedly certain other nations (china, korea, japan) have had the historical and contemporary concept of nation-statehood for quite some time. still, to posit that america and australia didn’t exist as seperate entities prior to colonisation is pretty ridiculous.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            America and Australia as political entities did not exist until they were settled. To say otherwise is counterfactual.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i didn’t assert otherwise, what i said was that as geographical areas with distinct pop’ns and cultures- they existed. not as political entities. but indigenous governance in many senses and contexts is political and not without nuance.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            In other words, whites didn’t steal Australia or America from non-whites because Australia and America didn’t even exist yet.

          • Aungsan

            Their native populations existed, unless you think they are non-people.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Aborigines existed, but not Australians.

          • Aungsan

            And what were they, then? landless peasants, you idiot? I guess they lived in the sea, you moron? or in outer space? the divine right of white people to conquer other people’s lands, oh yeah, it didn’t have a fancy name, so it doesn’t matter that they lived there for centuries, pure BS.

          • Kudzu_Bob

             Advocates for genocide really shouldn’t try to seize the moral high ground.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            They weren’t even peasants. They were hunter-gatherers.

          • Aungsan

            Who lived where?

  • DeepCough

    I guess Abstinence-Only Education worked out for the better after all.

    • TennesseeCyberian

      I think that birth control might be a more plausible explanation.

      • Jin The Ninja

        either you totally missed the wit in deep’s comment, or you are slyly implying people of colour do not use birth control. so?

        • TennesseeCyberian

          I think that the statistics clearly show that “people of color” are choosing childbirth rather than birth control, abstinence, or abortion at higher rates than whites. Otherwise, where are the babies coming from?

          To the best of my knowledge, whites are not choosing abstinence in great numbers, but they regularly avoid childbirth through birth control or abortion.

          But you are correct in pointing out that I’m being a fact-checking droid in response to a humorous comment. I suppose I would find it funnier if it were true.

          • DeepCough

            Well, seeing that you’re a big truth-seeker, then it would interest you to know that abstinence-only sex education is ironically having the opposite effect: rather than putting a stop to teen pregnancy, it has caused it to increase for those areas that insist on abstinence-only sex education.

          • TennesseeCyberian

            Now that’s funny.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            That has nothing to do with TennesseeCyberian’s observation. You are merely trying to deflect attention from his point that high birth rates among non-Asian minorities aren’t exactly a sign that they are using lots of condoms.

          • DeepCough

            It was fucking joke!

          • Anti-Crowley

             So being inundated by sensuality in advertising, television, movies, magazines and surrounded by it in schools was not responsible?  How about the overwhelming social representation of sexual irresponsibility?  Left out a little bit of input data ay, nice slant though.

          • Anarchy Pony

            Go pray to your fake god. 

          • Kudzu_Bob

            I gather that you think that non-whites have a high birth rate because they are vulnerable to media conditioning, whereas whites have a low birth rate because they are not so vulnerable to it. What explains the difference?

          • DeepCough

            Sounds to me like you’re blaming society more than taking individual responsibility yourself.

  • Chester8

    Oh God no! Just don’t tell me there’s going to be less blue-eyed blonde girls in the future. That’s when we gonna have a problem.. Cause damn, I love white women! 

    • :)~

      I bet they dont love you tho 

  • GoodDoktorBad

    Oh no!!!! The savages are coming, the savages are coming……

    I love savages……

  • tooCents

    White people are great. Russia, Scandinavia, some of Northern Europe, some areas of Canada… these areas shall be the refuge and lands of my people. White Power!

    • moongrim69

      Polar Wastes…how appropriate.

      • tooCents

        Global warming will help to make these areas nicer to live in and has already started to open up the ocean around the north pole for shipping.
        And anyway oh there’s some nice areas in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Scotland, Iceland, Canada, Russia. Plus white people are better suited for colder climates, which is where lighter skin originated. Better than the equator or Texas for that matter.

  • moongrim69

    Now’s the time for the White Supremacists and mAnn Coulter to shoot their mouthes off….again.

  • Guest

    in the future, everyone will be a light brown. ( except the albinos, which we can eat. )

    • Anarchy Pony

      It’s not like there’ll be anything else to eat.

    • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
    • Andrew

      I hope not.  That would be boring.

      • Kudzu_Bob

        Ding ding ding! We have a winner! A hybrid world is a brown world, one in which everybody not only looks the same but must also accept the tenets of multiculturalism. All who wish to maintain their biological and cultural distinctiveness find themselves demonized by the militantly tolerant.

        • Jin The Ninja

          right…because mixed people have a secret agenda to control the world through ‘multi-culturalism.’ except not.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Nice job of ridiculing a claim that I never made. This is a good example of the demonization that I’m talking about.

          • Jin The Ninja

            it was your implication. i’m not demonising you, i’m simply pointing out that your ideology is flawed. neither culture nor race are hermetically sealed, and both are in constant flux.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            It was not my implication, it was your imputation. Respond to what I write, not what you think I REALLY mean. I subscribe to no political ideology, unlike the multiculturalists.

            And it sems self-serving for somebody who calls for the replacement (which is to say genocide) of the various human races by one allegedly superior brown race to say, “Well, race and culture are in constant flux anyway, don’t you see?”

          • Jin The Ninja

            there is no such thing as a ‘brown race.’ there are brown people. but i’m talking about multi-raciality as an identity and as a futurist concept. i’m not talking about ‘multi culturalism’ which is a neo-liberal ideology, designed to promote labour force immigration.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Show me a mixed-race land I’ll show you a place that has been counquered, either militarily or by other means.

            Multiculturalism, which IS the main engine of multiracialism, is how such things are done these days, being less messy and expensive than armed conquest.

          • Jin The Ninja

            multiculturalism is not the engine of multi raciality, as multi culturalism as a political concept has only been around for 50 years. and yes, mixed race populations due tend to concentrate in areas of colonisation, and cultural exchange (i.e. central asia), but i ‘m unsure of what your point is, in reaffirming something so obvious.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Multiracialism is now held up to be a positive good, because it supports contemporary notions of multiculturalism. This ideology is the modern form of conquest.

            As for my point, it should be obvious: Only defeated societies are multiracial.

          • Aungsan

            The native indigenous were a multiracial society? facepalm

          • Kudzu_Bob

             Your reply as has nothing to do with what I posted.

          • Andrew

            Do you believe all cultures are sacrosanct, above criticism, and should never change?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Races should not be wiped out just so that multiculturalists can feel good about themselves.

          • Andrew

            Speaking of implications, who here seriously asserted that non-brown people should be wiped out?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Consider Jews, who are roughly 2% of the world’s population. To urge that all races merge into one is to advocate that they be genocided, albeit through non-violent means. White people are also a relatively small, and getting smaller all the time, fraction of the world’s population. To say A is to say B.

          • Andrew

            Who here seriously urged that all races merge into one brown one?

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Anyone who defends the right of races to exist is considered evil.  Therefore genocide is the logical outcome of multiculturalism.

          • Jin The Ninja

             it’s your conclusions that defy logic.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Phillip-Schmitt/1590026226 James Phillip Schmitt

            I know that’s what I’m thinking when I’m banging a black chick.

        • Andrew

          True muticulturalism is not monocultural.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Multiculturalists want the whole world to be multitucultural. That is the very definition of a global monoculture.

          • Andrew

            No it’s not.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            In the future we will all believe in multiculturalism and will all be the same color. Yeah, sounds real diverse to me.

          • Jin The Ninja

            phenotype doesn’t dictate culture or race. variations of melanin is not a very strong cultural or racial marker.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Nonsense heaped upon nonsense. All you know about Country A is that it is white. Can you guess what its rough level of economic and technical development is? Country B is yellow? What about them? Country C is black? What about them?

          • Andrew

            Yeah, and you have to tolerate intolerance to be truly tolerant, true freedom requires letting the strong exploit the weak and majorities trample minority rights, and an orchestra is the epitome of a single monophonic instrument.

          • Mr Willow

            Wait, wait, wait. . . 

            Mono = one

            Multi = many

            To say you suffer from cognitive dissonance would be an understatement. Cacophony seems more accurate. 

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Enforced tolerance is the ultimate intolerance. When only multicultural societies become permissible, that is monoculture pure and simple. When all races blend into a single brown race, then all the other races disappear. no more pygmies, no more Jews, no more whites, etc. It’s really quite simple.

          • AlKhalil

            Enforced order is the ultimate of disorder. Let us disband the police force.

          • Mr Willow

            a) Race is not the same thing as culture.

            b) Who exactly is enforcing tolerance? You can be as intolerant as you would like, but if those around you are more tolerant than you, you will inevitably find yourself as a lone bigot. 

            Society changes based upon majority views, if your view is in the minority, it won’t matter how boisterously you express it. 

            c) I guess you hate the idea of America then, you know that whole ‘Out of Many, One’ thing?

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol. ‘white’ noise, so to speak.

          • AlKhalil

            No, it is a mystery, like the 3 in one type of thing.  Or like Hamlet used to wonder, “my uncle killed my father and married my mother, so why did my uncle kill my father and marry my mother when before he killed my father and married my mother I used to call him uncle?”

        • David Howe

           where’s the “dislike” button

      • Jin The Ninja

        nah, phenotype doesn’t dictate culture or even race. even if you had a fully multi racial pop’n – it would still be wildly heterogeneous- in phenotypes,culture and race- it just would be more caramel-toned- which i think may be a good thing.

        • Andrew

          What I’m saying is that I find both black/blue African women and pale redheads hot. 

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol, those phenotypes would still exist in a multi racial world. my french-cdn family are ginger and green eyed, my metis family is black haired and blue eyed. my mum has heterochromatic iris’ (blue/green) – and i came away with green (dad is chinese/brown/black). gingers would be rarer, but i have no doubt they’d still exist.

            http://mixed-people-problems.tumblr.com/post/20865462728
            http://mixed-people-problems.tumblr.com/post/18240271431
            http://mixed-people-problems.tumblr.com/post/16839189611

          • Andrew

            I know, I was just responding to Guest’s “everyone will be a light brown” joke.  Nothing wrong with light brown people at all, but “Allah loves wondrous variety.”

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol. i know, i’m just giving you a hard time (friendly teasing).

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Sure, sure. There would be the occasional green-eyed brown person, just not any actual, you know, white people. Sounds like a plan to me!

          • Jin The Ninja

            so mixed european and ‘other’ people aren’t white? i’d beg to differ. green actually is a very common eye colour in eurasians. i’m green-eyed myself. i also consider myself ‘white’ ‘asian’ and mixed at the same time. it’s a multi-layered thing.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            What you consider yourself is of interest only to you. What would a geneticist think, or a forensic anthropologist? The answer is obvious. Certainly an Asian would not think of you as Asian, nor would a white regared you as white.

          • Andrew

            I’m of mixed European heritage, my skin is pink, my hair is black, and my eyes are brown.  The government seems to think I should call myself Caucasian or white.  Should I fill out the census differently?

          • AlKhalil

            Yes, choose “Other” and write in “HUMAN.” 

          • Jin The Ninja

            because i’m not either but both. and actually usually when i am in asia-proper, they know i am eurasian. only in america and sometimes canada does contention regarding my multi-racial identity arise.

          • AlKhalil

            We can keep a couple of whites for your amusement in a zoo cage. You can volunteer if you want.  In genereal, however, humans are not mated for selected traits like we do with cows and dogs.  People marry/breed based on mutual consent of a man and a woman who find themselves attracted to each other (or by mistake if you pick someone up from a bar).  The resultant child is open to random possibilities of genetic distribution and we do not care how he/she turns up to fit a certain breed type. There are no human breed clubs and no breed competitions.  And if we did, I would guess Africans would win like we now have in sports.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Phillip-Schmitt/1590026226 James Phillip Schmitt

            slaveowners practiced “husbandry” with their african slaves, which is why african-americans TEND to be better at sports due to stronger nerve tissue. caucasian traits were distributed throughout Europe via good ol’ fashioned rape.

          • Jin The Ninja

            my mum is also ‘white’ fyi, not brown. metis is a historical and contemporary designation of mixed french (or scottish in some cases, although not this one) and native ancestry (cree, ojibway, alonquin). most intermarried amongst themselves, with other natives or with francophone diasporas in western canada.
            many of them are indistinguishable from other ‘white’ ethnicites, and most speak french or english as a first language. in my maternal line’s case, it is french canadian, franco-belgian AND metis (meaning overwhelmingly gaellic) (one grandparent metis-french, the other solely french). i however happily embrace being ‘brown’ or ‘of colour’ as my paternal parent is ‘asian’ (again a subjective racial catagorisation), and ‘whiteness’ is not a cultural or racial group. it is a subjective ethnic category based on westerness and homogeneity to a certain ideal. browness is an ‘otherness’ meant to seperate non-white peoples from their ‘white’ counterparts. however part of being a subaltern or Person of colour means embarcing and subverting racist cultural definitions.
            i’m much more ‘ethnic’ than my maternal family, but i i suspect i know much more of my european history and practice its contextual cultural and linguistic traits much more than you do.

          • Rwright05

            No offense but you are more concerned about your racial pedigree than any “white” person I’ve ever met.

          • Calypso_1

            shit, you should meet a korean

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’m not white. and in the context to this disussion, i merely meant that bob’s assertion that my mum is ‘brown’ (his words) was simply wrong in context to her culture and family.

            however, i am unsure of why you choose to post such an inane comment, on a discussion that clearly had a poster with white nationalist sympathies vs me who was trying to discuss futurist multi-raciality from my personal experiences as a multi racial person unless of course you share those same white nationalist sympathies.

          • Jin The Ninja

            to understand one’s history, especially as a multi-racial person, is to understand a defining aspect of one’s identity. and obviously you really don’t understand the context in which french-canadians or metis people or indigenous canadians were actively persecuted under british rule. a very cursory retelling of history of that context, is not concern with pedigree. it’s called self-awareness.

        • Kudzu_Bob

          What you’re talking about is anything but diverse. A brown world would not have red hair or blue eyes or lactose tolerance or high-altitude adaptation or Askenhazim smarts in it.

          • Jin The Ninja

            you seem to think all ‘brown’ people look alike. does a metis person look like an indonesian eurasian? does an uzbek look like a bi-racial american? phenotypes do not dictate culture or race. genetics 101.

          • Kudzu_Bob

             Again with the nonsense. Any forensic anthropologist can look at a skull and tell what race it belongs to.

          • Jin The Ninja

            actually they need to test for genetic markers to determine geographical origination, but that is not the same thing as race, nor does forensic anthro. have 100% accuracy, because differential phenotypes occur in many populations. craniometry is also a highly discredited science.

          • Kudzu_Bob

            Hand-waving. Forensic DNA and forensic anthropology can both determine race.

          • Jin The Ninja

             but phenotype still doesn’t dictate race.

    • David Howe

      “white” people ARE light brown.  hello?

  • Anomaly_of_Anomie

    Long live the Caucasoids! 

  • Established Poster

    I would like to comment on how intelligent I am.  I am very well versed on this issue.  I suppose I can think up something clever.  What that shows is that I am so intelligent, that I don’t even bother rebutting your comments but disregard them with mockery.  Right guys?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Phillip-Schmitt/1590026226 James Phillip Schmitt

      homo-butt-babies will be the only pure race in the future.

  • Nikki Lestat

    Maybe now finally Americans will stop separating themselves from one another and just be AMERICANS- This is the only way the US can fix its problems —

  • Rwright05

    Disqus is so fucked up I can’t even read what these people are arguing about.

  • Taan Maat

    Pahana is comin’ soon ya’ll

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