Are You Familiar With Astrotheology? – The Joy Camp

By Camron Wiltshire on June 24, 2012 in News 127

Lessons in love… and science, featuring Chelsea Kurtz, Benny Wills and Andrew Delman (as Dante).

adonis, Astrotheology, horus, Jesus, odin, Osiris, thor, Venus

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Oneloveinus

Witty.
PertAndPopular

This shit is genius. So true…”intelligent” women with shitty men -sigh-. I feel exactly like the guy in this video.
- Brother
  
  its a club.
Meaningless Self

Just goes to show you: its just female nature- even in intelligent ones- to desire those who treat them like shit. Fucking cosmic irony!!
- Jin The Ninja
  
  that very ridiculous characterisation would only apply to the writer IF the writer was a woman. and even if she is a SHE, then it only applies to her.
  - Brother
    
    yes yes, very hot till the end there which made the whole dialog that came before insincere. Its very hard to be interested in such high minded abstract topics and be ok within a shallow, asymmetrical, codependent relationship masquerading as a real romance. She reminds me of the stereotype of a femme fatale, who pretends to be classy but is false and malevolent in reality.
  - TennesseeCyberian
    
    A woman’s value is dictated by her appearance and ethnicity? What are you, sexist and racist?
    
    Shame on you.
    - Redacted
      
      I’m the only sexist around here. Get back in the kitchen.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Usually sexists have sex before they develop their bias. I suppose you are an early bloomer?
      - Lego
        
        so much intellectual arrogance. Use all that mental power to go do something productive, this site if for entertainment.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Hey, leggo my Eggo, man. This is entertainment!
      - Redacted
        
        Indeed it is. You call that a come back, bitch?
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        I’m sorry, sir, but homosexual propositions over the Internet are highly inappropriate. What’s next, you dream about sucking me down your throat with some eggs over easy?
        
        Gross.
      - Redacted
        
        You’re almost as funny as you think you’re smart.
        
        By which I mean not much.
        
        I give my respect to a retard learning to read.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        I know you are…
        
        …
        
        …wait for it…
        
        …
        
        …but what am I?
      - Redacted
        
        Easy to troll.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        It kind of takes to sting away when I see that you go back and edit your comment to have more pizzazz.
        
        “What I meant to say was…”
    - Calypso_1
      
      …this is going to be amusing.
    - Jin The Ninja
      
      actually if you READ my comment, what i said was very pro-womyn, as it deconstructed the stereotype portrayed in the clip and in the above comment.
      it also spoke to the very real tension between women and abusive partners.
      
      since i’m eurasian, i simply felt the need to acknowledge a fellow eurasian, and in that also acknowledge that she is very beautiful. neither of those things defines her “value.” but multi racialty does define identity.
      
      and i’m queer. so my appraisal of female physicality is based on an altogether very different quantum than a sexist hetero cis-male.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        So not only do you critique women on their looks and racial make-up, you don’t even spell “women” correctly?
        
        That’s practically abusive in and of itself.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        lol. critique implies denigration. point to where i did that? ‘womyn’ is an all encompassing term drawn from feminism that refers to genderqueer womyn, trans womyn, lesbian, bi sexual, hetero sexual cis womyn.
        
        and because i am also Eurasian, as i noted, it is not an abuse of racial privilege to note others of the same identity.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Critique only implies denigration if the critique is unflattering or the subject is too sensitive to communicate under unprotected conditions. It’s a cool word, you should Google it some time.
        
        “Womyn” is a very unpopular permutation of the English language, much like the more-popular terms “cum,” “nigga,” or “coz,” as in “coz ur the racist.” I can’t imagine why “womyn” hasn’t caught on yet.
        
        “do you know anything about multi-raciality? feminism? hapa identity? eurasians as historical and contemporary populations? identity politics? queer politics? gender politics?”
        
        Only that people who speak from those platforms generally do so with condescension and snide self-assurance. And that they tend to annoy guests at the dinner table. Know many people like that?
        
        I suppose your “queer and eurasian” privilege is negligible unless it is the subject of a diversity training seminar, a doctoral candidacy, or a top spot on MSNBC. Or if one ignores “queer Eurasian” over-representation in interior design and the sciences (respectively.)
        
        Just FYI: Part of my privilege is the use of two “Shift” buttons to either side of my keyboard. They are used to capitalize certain words, such as those which start sentences, or proper words like “Eurasian.”
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i can hear the vacant struggle of a hick drowning in his own word vomit.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        And I can hear crickets chirping. Crazy how we all hear different sounds all over the world, huh?
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i guess in TN- being an idiotic sounds much like being intelligent.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Is that geographical prejudice?
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        only if it correlates to inbreeding.
      - Calypso_1
        
        Now Jin, let’s leave TN out of the equation. ; )
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        fair enough. i should check my urban priv;)
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Yep.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        and you should check your white cis-male hetero sexist racist priv.
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        It’s hillarious to observe your arrogance in denouncing others for aspectsof your own personality flaws.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        You’ll notice that Jin has done a 1984 on his/her own comment to hide his/her admission of “urban privilege.”
        
        This “urban privilege,” with better access to education, social services, and non-familial mates, manifests itself as insults towards the “inbreds” and “rednecks” who occupy the rural areas of America.
        
        By deleting his/her original hypocritical statement, Jin also shows two-faced cowardice, known among the masses as a “pussy.”
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        yes. troll master, yes. you are absolutely correct that i positioned my urban privilege above the rural. my mistake. so when you position yourself above ‘asian’ people above women, what does that make you?
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Reply above.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        and below.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        At what point did I position myself above Asians?
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        Yep! It’s easy for him to dish but cannot take. Anotherholier than though faker.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        To go back and edit out an insult to my state is pretty cowardly, don’t you think?
        
        It was funnier the way you phrased it before, because it assumes that everyone in Tennessee is idiotic, which is extremely prejudiced.
        
        Or “funny” as those of us with a sense of humor call it.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        what i think is funny is you, trolling my comment. stay redneck.
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        HAHAHA Jin you should stop while you are ahead.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        And as a side note, who is being racist here? the fact that eurasians (myself included) make up a visible identity seems to make you upset. i can’t exert power +predjudice+ privilege over MY OWN racial group.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        No, my friend, you’ve got me all wrong. I think the Asian chick in that video was super-hot, too.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        “chick”? “Asian” (what does “Asian” even mean?) ?
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Damn, I’m sorry.
        
        See, a subset of guys in American society like to call certain female peers “chicks,” you know, like baby chickens, because they are soft and fluffy and grow up to lay eggs.
        
        “Asian” is sort of like “Eurasian” but without the “Euro,” but can also be used as a blanket term for anyone of Asian descent by people who think “Eurasian” has too many syllables and sounds sort of pretentious.
        
        Have you ever considered taking a diversity training course on popular vernacular? It will make you much more sensitive to subtle cultural nuances.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        keep going, you’re sounding ‘smarter’ with every post.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Thanks, man. I try.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        That was fun, i haven’t gotten a good laugh from a troll in a long time
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        and what was the point of all this, to come out the same racist asshole troll? well you made it. finish line.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Reply above.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        and so below.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        To point out the judgemental insanity of your quasi-philosophy.
        
        And besides, it passes the time on a dull evening.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        nothing quasi about feminism, identity politics and race. but i suppose for you an ephemeral and intangible concept such as knowledge would be be difficult to relate to.
      - Liam_McGonagle
        
        Yeah, Comrade ”Go Liam Go” also seems unaware of the polemical implications of the very conscious use of the term “womyn”.
        
        “Go dtreise Dia do lamha” and all that, but I think it’d be a waste of someone’s time to spend it on that character. It’d only be fair to handicap him for his social isolation amonst a herd of vodka-swilling plebs out in some God-forsaken rural Oblast, but I think he’s already achieved the limits of what can be expected of him.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Still working on that article for me? We’re all waiting.
        
        Go, Liam, Go!
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        No offense, i like you Jin, and i never thought i’d be defending a troll, but he is doing a good job of revealing a different kind of bigotry than you usually associate with the word.
        
        You’re projecting a lot of what “Meaningless Self” said onto “TennesseeCyberian”, who has been doing nothing but trolling you specifically, and you are assuming a lot about him simply due to his tag containing “Tennessee” in it.
        
        But really this is a lesson in “Never feed the troll” cus you’re always going to get bit.
        
        Also you almost seem to use cis-male(actually terminology i’ve never heard of before, but its understandable enough) in a completely derogatory fashion, assuming that it implies a hatred for alternative cisgenders. Honestly i think this is offensive. Its much the same kind of bigotry you seem to have against people from the south as well; this follows the same logic that you cannot be bigoted against, whites, males, or rich people.
      - Andrew
        
        There’s nothing wrong with being bigoted against rich people.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        then there is nothing wrong with being bigoted against poor people.
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        I know what you guys just typed, but here’s what I just heard:
        
        Andrew “There’s nothing wrong with being bigoted against pedophiles.”
        
        Chaorder Gradient “then there’s nothing wrong with being bigoted against children”.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        If a rich person gives hard-earned money and/or valuable time to a poor person–whether willingly or by force–does that reverse the analogy?
      - Andrew
        
        The Second Mile
      - Calypso_1
        
        I’d say that was both willingly andby force.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        If this link is what you are referring to, your analogy puts a pretty disturbing spin on The Second Mile’s intentions.
        
        http://www.thesecondmile.org/aboutUs.php
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Quick Google search. Gotcha.
        
        shudders
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ False Equivalency
        (damn it the one time i wanted to use that site, and they didnt have the falacy i wanted to reference).
        
        Anyways I’m not sure I have the energy to play devil’s advocate for this one.
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        You heard wrong.
      - Andrew
        
        That’s like saying it’s okay to be bigoted against virgins because it’s okay to be bigoted against pedophiles.
      - Andrew
        
        I can’t be expected to refresh the page every time I want to make a comment!
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        Do you mean that all prosperous people are predators and all lower-income folks are innocent victims?
        
        If that’s the case, it sure does relieve a person navigating society of the necessity of discernment.
      - Andrew
        
        Zenc had a better analogy. Not all lower-income folks are innocent victims.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        and to come full circle, not all well-off people are bloodsucking parasites(now this does not mean I defend bloodsucking parasites)
      - Andrew
        
        Yes they are.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        The only rich people I’ve ever known are the ones that I’ve either worked for or studied under.
        
        It is arguable that the former were all blood-suckers–however gentle their bite–and the jury is still out on the latter.
        
        I would condemn them with self-righteous fury, but I’ve made my living by sucking the blood-suckers’ blood, which was sucked from consumers and labor, which is me and you and everyone we know.
        
        We sure do taste bitter on a long, sweaty, thankless work day. But it beats Maoist China.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        copypaste from response to zenc
        
        http://yourlogicalfallacyis.co… False Equivalency
        (damn it the one time i wanted to use that site, and they didnt have the falacy i wanted to reference).
        
        Anyways I’m not sure I have the energy to play devil’s advocate for this one.
        
        (Damn I realize now that i probably stepped on the biggest disinfo landmine of all time)
      - Andrew
        
        ;)
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        I’ll give you a pass, mainly because I want to go play League of Legends and then catch up on True Blood, but also because you deserve it.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        Hey you play LoL? me too, Gimme yo login
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        ZencC
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        Either Sheakru or Bekaru
        
        can’t remember
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        The only thing that bothers me about bigoted people is that they get offended at other people’s bigotry. It’s an indefensible selective judgement that should be punished by good-natured ribbing at every turn.
      - Andrew
        
        I accept my punishment.
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        Agreed and Kudos.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i appreciate what you say, and i do not take any offense.
        i have to disagree however, because TC is the one who became ‘offended’ shall we say by my use of the word ‘eurasian’ and ‘womyn’ when those were meant in a totally inclusive way. in terms of identity politics, we have to identify privilege where it exists in order to deconstruct it. for instance i full take responsibilty for my denigration of rural people in this context, but conversely saying that mixed people are ‘Asian’ and women ‘chicks’ in the same way based upon a certain white male privilege that i am not willing to ignore. by using ‘cis’ iam positing the difference between me, who is queer and not in the same position of privilege as someone who is sexually ‘normative.’ i agree that i should have never fed the troll. I am more than willing to acknowledge i have a certain idea of what southern people are, which is not ecumenical nor inclusive. and for anyone who was affected by that i apologise; however TC and i have had this same racialised back and forth before, so of course it led me to ascribe their thinking to entire group- and again, not my intention, geography has nothing to do with ideology. completely my fault in that.
      - Calypso_1
        
        Can I still call chicks ‘broads’?
      - GoodDoktorBad
        
        Only if they are broadly endowed. (big breasts, butts etc.)
      - Calypso_1
        
        Minded?
      - GoodDoktorBad
        
        I suppose, but I think the expression lends itself more toward physical attributes…
        
        …being broad minded is hardly a singularly female trait…or a male one for that matter. In fact it seems to be pretty scarce indeed…
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        Relax, your input is valued and we definitely want you to stick around and keep providing it.
        
        Take my side next time I advocate physically beating low-wage food service workers for their mistakes or when I lump atheists and theists into the same unflattering category and you’ll soon learn that it’s not the end of the world when not everyone you admire or respect agrees with you.
        
        Thursday or Friday I’m planning to argue that Down’s Syndrome Children should be euthanized under Obamacare (depending on how the SCOTUS decision turns out), so maybe you can get in on the ground floor of that one with me.
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        I love lumping athiests and theists into the same unflattering category.
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        It is some of the best sport going.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        “we have to identify privilege where it exists in order to deconstruct it.”
        
        If you typed that on a nice computer in a comfortable home with a full belly and no one kicked in your door for doing so, I’d say it’s time to call in leftist deconstruction team. I mean, what about all the starving kids in Africa?
        
        “i full take responsibilty for my denigration of rural people in this context”
        
        By editing out your comments? Better grovel some more.
        
        You’ve accused me of racism and other -isms at various times, but that is just an easy way to avoid rational arguments. You just slap your opponent with an -ism or categorize them by their assumed ”privilege,” and BAM!!, you somehow win. No need for logic or supporting evidence.
        
        It’s a weak gambit.
        
        So I had some fun pointing out your own -isms, which I happen to find charming, even if I tease you about them on the Internet.
        
        “I am more than willing to acknowledge i have a certain idea of what southern people are, which is not ecumenical nor inclusive. and for anyone who was affected by that i apologise”
        
        Why apologize for being honest?
        
        As the Devil once said in a homoerotic fantasy flick: “We are all animals, my dear.”
        
        Quit being so uptight about it.
      - Andrew
        
        You’re going to let them silence you?.
      - Calypso_1
        
        …and just when he hit the top commenter slot : (
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        I didn’t mean to imply that you actually had prejudice against, whites, males, or rich people. I was just stating that bigotry against the south and these are each arrived at through the same logical means(but are nonetheless separate issues).
        
        Everyone has a different state in each of the issues, but they were being used as examples, nothing more.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        I think it’s pretty clear that Jin harbors prejudice about whites (you know, that whole “privilege” accusation). And his “cis-hetero” term has a tinge of venom to it, even over the Internet.
        
        Andrew has just come out and owned his prejudice toward the rich, wherever one draws that line.
        
        I have no problem pointing out their prejudices, but to anyone who would utterly condemn them for prejudging a group of people based on past experiences or second-hand stories, to anyone who would say that their arguments are somehow instantly negated by their prejudice, I offer a firm, but fair:
        
        So what if they’re prejudiced? Are their statements true?
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        well I did at one point have to reluctantly admit to the existence of white privalege a while back, but its come to a point where such an extremely complex issue as “privilege” itself immediately lends itself to being discriminated against, no matter the context. I can’t say I am a master in this realm of information but i think we see eye to eye in this respect at least.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        I would be dishonest to deny my white privilege, and my Western privilege in general, but it’s not all that leftists make it out to be–especially for working class whites in the South. I’m too busy struggling to survive to apologize for it.
        
        Those who point fingers and say, “white privilege” as though it is a character flaw tend to ignore their own privileges or downplay them in order to secure more privileges.
        
        True story: I was talking to a black radical the other day when suddenly he hit me with, “The only honorable response to disparity is to disavow all privilege.” The next day we were having barbecue at his house with the big screen TV on in the air-conditioned living room on comfortable sofas.
        
        To condemn white privilege, or any privilege, is to cut down the taller trees in the forest for sake of those struggling in the shade. Life is hard enough without identity politics.
      - Andrew
        
        The concept of kyriarchy (however redundant the etymology) is very helpful in describing what you’re talking about.
      - Calypso_1
        
        Despite what may have come across to you in this exchange, I believe that Jin’s views are far more informed and open minded then you might be able to perceive at this time.
      - TennesseeCyberian
        
        I’ll take you at your word.
      - Calypso_1
        
        That’s mighty white of you. ; )
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        I like your comments and posts. I hope you’ll stick around.
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        Congrats on out-trolling the troll. Bigoted against rich people? What the fuck are you talking about? Things aren’t that black and white. (pun intended)
      - Andrew
        
        U mad bro?
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        haha. no
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        Well. A little. I cant get Anti-Crowley off my profile. Glitchy disinfo forums. So I guess I’m him now.
      - Calypso_1
        
        That is unfortunant.
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        And me being a Crowley fan, It’s an ironic enough glitch to be interesting.
      - Andrew
        
        Maybe you’ll do a better job of it?
      - Monkey See Monkey Do
        
        No thanx, I’m a monkey, and i’ll always be a monkey.
      - GoodDoktorBad
        
        I prefer “Sir Monkey”, sir….
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        I agree entirely with Chaorder’s account.
        
        Jin you’ve accused me of all of the above on numerous occasions, while simultaneously dislocating your shoulders with self congratulatory back slapping for your own ‘preeminent sympathies’ with exploited or marginalized people everywhere, but in reality you just come off like a brain washed hipster epousing pc rhetoric you absolutely do not embody, while you continuously expose your own massive superiority/inferiority complex as an anonymous troll. Put down whatever minority manifesto you are reading at the moment, climb the nearest hill, look out and re member you are not a special snowflake, you are no different than any of the other souls hung up on the cross of time, ie get over yourself and stop being such a whiny bitch about everything.
      - Calypso_1
        
        You Camron, are most certainly a special flake. ; )
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        “You are not special. Your are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.”
      - Calypso_1
        
        I love decaying organic matter. It contains immense beauty.
      - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
        
        And its nutritious! .. right?
      - http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc
        
        “and until you understand that you’re useless”
        
        After the Cogito, that’s about the truest thing I know.
      - Camron Wiltshire
        
        Agreed.
  - refocus
    
    She has a fat ass.
- Quagmire
  
  This is a fundamental law of the universe. That’s why Quagmire’s test works so great in the real world. “How is your relationship with your father?” If she says good, move to the next chick. If she says bad, bingo, your in.
DeepThoughts

Oh how hard it is to be a deep individual in such a shallow society, No diving you’ll smash your head on the bottom.
Gierlachsmith

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TennesseeCyberian

This video is hilarious, by the way. I watched most of Joy Camp’s short clips afterward, and thought many of them were even funnier, particularly the PSAs.
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- 888
  
  We don’t care.
  
  She is probably 400+ lbs and ugly.
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