When You Should Shoot a Cop

Larken Rose at CopBlock.org:

That question, even without an answer, makes most “law-abiding taxpayers” go into knee-jerk conniptions.The indoctrinated masses all race to see who can be first, and loudest, to proclaim that it is NEVER okay to forcibly resist “law enforcement.” In doing so, they also inadvertently demonstrate why so much of human history has been plagued by tyranny and oppression.

In an ideal world, cops would do nothing except protect people from thieves and attackers, in which case shooting a cop would never be justified. In the real world, however, far more injustice, violence, torture, theft, and outright murder has been committed IN THE NAME of “law enforcement,” than has been committed in spite of it. To get a little perspective, try watching a documentary or two about some of the atrocities committed by the regimes of Stalin, or Lenin, or Chairman Mao, or Hitler, or Pol Pot, or any number of other tyrants in history. Pause the film when the jackboots are about to herd innocent people into cattle cars, or gun them down as they stand on the edge of a ditch, and THEN ask yourself the question, “When should you shoot a cop?” Keep in mind, the evils of those regimes were committed in the name of “law enforcement.” And as much as the statement may make people cringe, the history of the human race would have been a lot LESS gruesome if there had been a lot MORE “cop-killers” around to deal with the state mercenaries of those regimes…

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  • The only thing to get is money

    The next article should be titled: When You Should Overthrow a Government. That would be the next logical step after shooting cops.

  • Iconography

    The next article should be titled: “When You Should Take Legal Advice From a Paunchy Guy Standing in a Forest Who Made a YouTube video.” 

    • Camron Wiltshire

      Sigh… Why can’t disinfo have more than ‘snappy’ comebacks in the comments section….Well here is hoping some people actually get the message.  

      • Andrew

        Most people only come to this site to self-propagandize, just like viewers of Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.  The difference is that readers of Disinfo have less popular views to reinforce, and more than one are represented so there’s a lot of anomalous facts to filter from The Truth.

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          That’s all true, but there’s no reason to act like it’s a bad thing!

        • Camron Wiltshire

           I don’t agree with the self propagandize claim, I have no idea why most people come to this site and wouldn’t pretend to.  Why do you come to this site Andrew?  I’m not taunting, just curious.  That goes for everyone here, why are you here?  What motivates you to haunt this particular node?

          • Thorn

            came for the alternative news, stayed for the trolls

          • Calypso_1

            you forgot the WAC atlanta link

          • Camron Wiltshire

            wearechange.org << Updated much more frequently.

      • http://twitter.com/DanielReasor Daniel Reasor

         Then post something deserving of serious feedback.

        “Oh, the tyranny!”  To live in a country where I’m constitutionally free to upload a video literally advocating for the murder of legitimately appointed public servants.  And now when my habit of eating pork products with every meal catches up with me, I’ll be able to go to a doctor as well!  Look, I’m being oppressed!”

        • Camron Wiltshire

          He never advocated the murder of anyone.  He simply presented you should not allow yourself to be duped into thinking the government or it’s agents always have your best intentions in mind.  Obviously giving the nature of the Federal reserve scam and the various agencies employed to lie, cheat, steal and kill he has a very valid point.   

          You also gloss over the fact he merely is reiterating the spirit and intention of the founding fathers by supporting that no one should allow their freedoms to be limited by an authoritarian system.  It’s got plenty of comments so I guess the readers feel it is “deserving of serious feedback” your comments being excluded of course due to your unwillingness to actually address what he is saying in place of weak ad hominem and strawman attacks.Can you attack the message and not the messenger?  Do you think it is all of our best interest to accept the domination of the state because they say we must?  Meditate on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

        • David Williams

          Wasn’t Stalin a legitimately appointed public servant? He murdered about 40 million. Your argument is not only lame, it’s stupid. So are you. Point a gun at me (irrespective of what uniform you’re wearing or who appointed you) and you are leaving in a body bag. Speaking of pork, the parasitic, uniformed pests (cops) are the real bacon. You, however, are what is known as a boot-licker. My guess is that you would have done well in East Germany, Cuba, N. Korea and the like. You have a talent. It’s called boot-licking, NWO scum.

        • David Williams

          Wasn’t Stalin a legitimately appointed public servant? He murdered about 40 million. Your argument is not only lame, it’s stupid. So are you. Point a gun at me (irrespective of what uniform you’re wearing or who appointed you) and you are leaving in a body bag. Speaking of pork, the parasitic, uniformed pests (cops) are the real bacon. You, however, are what is known as a boot-licker. My guess is that you would have done well in East Germany, Cuba, N. Korea and the like. You have a talent. It’s called boot-licking, NWO scum.

  • Monkey See Monkey Do

    America has far more murder and assault than any other modern western country. It’s also the culture that most heavily promotes violence and guns. Connection?

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      “You’d be a fool and a Communist to make a connection”. -Bill Hicks

      However, some amount of endemic violence is worth it, because the day inevitably comes when the general population needs to be fairly conversant with how to kill people.

      • Monkey See Monkey Do

        ah yes. I forgot about judgment day, it all makes sense now.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    Off the cuff I’m going to say…

    “Early and Often”.

    But I’m sure that with more thought and study on the subject I can come up with even more occasions.

  • Anarchy Pony

    5 out of 5 GTA characters polled say: “All day, every day.”

    • Anibal 2014

       Saint’s Row characters ask: “Why not shoot everyone holding a gun? Then you can safely take down the others”.

  • Nick

    …did they make him take the full version down or what? The article seems good…he kinda ruins it by actually talking.

  • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

    The link appears to be dead, sir. 

  • Minutemen

    The real question is:  Who is going to fire the modern day “shot heard around the world”?
    Really hate to agree with this guy but the United States was founded via a bloody revolution
    and most( if not all) of the founding fathers had bounties placed on them.  

  • Redacted

    I had no idea people wrote Ron Paul fan fiction.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      Sometimes I write fiction about Ron Paul where he’s a anthropomorphic “furry” Ocelot or something and maybe I’m a “furry” capybara and he’s chasing me through the woods because I’ve been a naughty boy and engaging in fractional reserve lending and then he catches me and eats me and then I give him a nice backrub and then we fall asleep in a big puppy pile with all of our “furry” friends inside the ancient oak tree where the Great Horned Owl Von Mises keeps watch over all the furry woodland animals.

      • Redacted

        Well, its better than Sonichu.

      • Calypso_1

        I see Paul more as a Cacomistle. 

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          I actually agree with your assessment, once I looked up what the hell a Cacomistle was.

          I chose ocelot as part of an allusion to the Geek Hierarchy Chart.

          http://brunching.com/images/geekchart.pdf

          • Calypso_1

            Ah, that is rather amusing. 
            I’ve thought before that it would be an interesting experiment to go to an erotic furrie convention and do a sort of Nat Geo tag and release and find out where these people come from.  The blackmail opportunities alone should be enough to recoup any initial expenditures.

          • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

            I think they have some of those conventions over in Orlando, Fl from time to time, but I don’t have any more details than that, as it isn’t really my scene. (But hey, who hasn’t had an anonymous dry hump with Domo Kun while wearing an Elmo suit?)

            Tampa’s Fetishcon.com is more my speed.

          • Calypso_1

            Orlando FurrieCon…one more reason not to take the kids to the Magic Kingdom.

  • The only thing to get is money

    All of you are idiots. Do you even hear what the guy is saying? Government is the scourge of the existance of mankind. The government is nothing good. It wars, opresses, imprisons and destroys. The government and the idea of government “authority” should have beewn wiped out ages ago.

    Perhaps non-violent revolt and all this peace talk has hit it’s last stride. Perhaps it is time to violentlly confront the instituitions that met out violence in the first place.

    • Whatwhatnotinthebutt

      Perhaps it is time? Like right now? Are you serious?

      • The only thing to get is money

        Government aint gonna do shit to change! That’s the bottom line! Look at history from the first government to this government. Hell, look at every government on the face of the earth today. They are virtually identical.

        • TennesseeCyberian

          Yeah, exactly the same.  Fundamentalist Islamic states, liberal democratic states, Communist states, ancient monarchies, ancient republics, I mean, what’s the difference, really?  One keeps women in veils, the other taxes the sale of slutty skirts.  One enslaves the conquered, the other sends foreign aid.

          All the same, right?

          Lord knows that it’s getting too hot outside to drag these stones up to this stupid pyramid, but so long as the pharoah keeps giving me lemonade, I guess I’ll keep dragging them.  It’s all the same to me.

      • Alejandro Witte007

         Maybe the time is not today, but yesterday.

    • Redacted

      Why are Libertarians so violent? Always crying about oppression, then in the next breath they promise death and chaos.

      • Calypso_1

        If the current crop of so-called Libertarians were to have their way with the world people would be crying for police and government protection within days.

        • Alarico 2015

           Sheeps will allways cry for a shepherd.

      • Carlomagno

         Couze we are bored to death with non-libertarians weeping about injustice while collaborating with their opressors. Bloodshed looks like the only way out of their vicious circle.

  • Joey

    Being a police officer and coming on this site daily this disturbs me, yes out of the thousands of police there are bad ones, just like any job but no… you should not go out and shoot them.

    • Whatwhatnotinthebutt

      He’s not really saying that. The grand theme of cop killing that people are spurging about, including this guy, are more like worst case scenarios. Like his Hitler example. Even then, it’s to defend yourself and your rights. The only issue worth discussing in today’s America would be, say, what if cops break into my house without announcing themselves and I feel that my life is threatened? Or, what if a (bad) cop pulls a gun on me for no reason and I feel that my life is threatened?

    • Anomaly_of_Anomie

      This is true. There are bad cops and there are also a few great ones too. They are in a position of authority, and that’s a problem for a lot of people. Probably most law enforcement are jerks! But you know, that’s okay with me- cause who wants a bunch of pussies to serve and protect? They’re supposed to be tough. Many are just hardened by all the sick shit day in and day out that most of us never see. Especially in cities. 

      I hear what this guy is saying. His message is technically correct. On the other hand, the title is somewhat disrespectful to real people who have families and friends that are police. It is meant to be shocking and draw attention. You want complete chaos anarchy, Disinfo? Me too sometimes… but until that happens we need cops to stop murderous and rapist animals and fuckheads like that. 

      • Redacted

        Frankly, such jobs do attract people with empowerment issues. They also attract alot that don’t. I’m ex-Army, and I never did a thing to anyone that I would be afraid to tell my Grandmother, nor would I be ashamed to face anyone I interacted with after the fact.

        • Amilcar 2013

           So, you have neglected your duties.

    • Monkey See Monkey Do

      I agree with your comment that there are many cops trying to do the right thing. Even if you are trying to do the right thing do you really feel good about yourself for arresting someone because they have drugs on them? or evicting someone from their home so it can go to the banks?, or being trained to constantly frisk minorities for drugs? – Having no training in counselling yet constantly put in situations where its required? – being peer-pressured to beat up protesters?. 

      These issues are major systemic problems so the best way to be a good cop is to break the law sometimes perhaps? I have family in the force and it troubles me how comfortable many police are with the law, maybe some aren’t but then why don’t they speak up?

      • Monkey See Monkey Do

        And of course you shouldn’t go out and shoot them, he never said that. I think he’s afraid of a police state or armageddon scenario, or whatever rednecks are afraid of these days.

      • Joey

        No it does not make me feel good, but working in one of the worst areas in NYC. You see stuff that people should never see. There’s no trying to fix the system in the area, they just send more cops. No I have never evicted anyone for the banks, Never beaten up a protester. Cops do not speak up because then they get labeled it sad, but true I will say 99% cops are doing there job very well and are not bad people. But there’s that 1% who always ruin it for the rest of the us. Just like anything you always have bad people in certain cops.

        • Monkey See Monkey Do

          Thanks for your reply. I hope you get the opportunity to do some good out there. These are defintley systemic problems, one problem is that 1% of bad apples in the force hold alot more power than 1% in any other profession.  One of the systemic changes we need is to have more community based police organizations, more communities in general really, so we can prevent little hell-holes from cropping up like that area you patrol in NYC.

    • Artor

      As an officer, it’s almost certain that you know of someone in your department or a neighboring precinct, that “bends the rules,” or sometimes is just outright dirty. May I ask what you do about it? Do you record evidence & turn them in when they break the laws they’re supposed to uphold, or do you look the other way? Maybe participate yourself? If you don’t do the first, then you are contributing to the problem, and bringing us all closer to the circumstances when, yes, someone really should shoot back.

    • Marklar_Prime

      The problem is that the bad ones who are blatantly guilty of torture and murder are treated as a protected class that can commit their crimes with impunity. Until bad cops get punished for their crimes (at least most of the time) the general public is well within it’s rights to treat each and every police stop as a probable attempted murder situation.

      If you fail to speak out against the bad ones within your ranks and demand that they be prosecuted when appropriate then you may not be one of the worst ones but you are still one of the bad one’s and are in affect an accessory to the murders and torture committed by others.

      Until you can police your own you have no business whatsoever policing the public. For a guy like you that starts with refusing to perpetuate the blue wall of silence.

      Being a cop can be more or less dangerous. Making it less dangerous starts with changing cop culture.

      Fighting for increased sentencing for cops as well and would be more than appropriate. When a cop breaks the law they are also breaking the public trust and making YOUR job more dangerous. Meaning they deserve harsher sentencing than Joe Public rather than receiving lighter sentences as is now the norm if they are prosecuted at all.

      • Camron Wiltshire

        I agree.  Also decentralizing police power and making them truly responsible to the needs of the citizens outside of federal agencies is crucial.  Sherrif Mack is one individual who is working hard to resist the creep of anti constitutional federal oversight.   http://sheriffmack.com/

  • http://twitter.com/kaustisk kaustisk

    He made a very well reasoned argument in the video. Judging from the comments it went over a lot of people’s heads. FYI – when you respond to a logical argument with logical fallacies you just look ignorant. 

    • Redacted

      I’m not going to watch a video about some fat cock sucker squealing about murdering people. You can cry ignorance all you want.

      • Whatwhatnotinthebutt

        YEAH!! Let’s take this shit back to kindergarten! You doodoo head!

      • ClubGugly

        IGNORANCE

  • Whatwhatnotinthebutt

    Morons will flame for both sides of this “Doomsday Scenario”. The country would have to be pretty f-ing bad off for cop killing to be anywhere close to justifiable. The real underlying issue to all of this is freedom and whether or not it’s being taken away.

    • Artor

      There are plenty of individual cops right now that really, really need to be dead. In my left-leaning, small west coast town, we had two cops who raped women at gunpoint while on duty, in their patrol cars, for 10 years while every other cop in the department covered for them. They finally got busted and are doing time in prison now, but I’d nominate Magana & Lara for retroactive abortion as a start. Wherever you live, I bet there’s a cop or two that deserves some high-velocity justice.

      • Calypso_1

        There are opportunities for legislative and judicial enforcement.  If the people are so concerned and it is so endemic (and am in no way arguing that it is not), crime by law enforcement and public officials should be punished with mandatory and maximum sentencing laws.  If an officer commits a felony while on duty, there should be ways to start tacking on numerous other charges such as is done to the ‘average’ offender – perhaps Impersonating an Officer of the Law would be a good start.  These issues highlight why the right to video record public officials in the commission of their duties is paramount to the well-being of the public at whose discretion they serve. 

        • Artor

          That’s great when everything works right, but when things work right, we don’t HAVE dirty cops. Is the court system any comfort when you’re being raped in the back of a patrol car with a gun in your mouth? There’s a few score women in my town who think that a ten-year delay is too much. Do you feel comforted by the protection of law when a masked gunman kicks in your door unannounced, shoots your dog, and is coming for you or your kid next?

          • Calypso_1

            I’m not saying everything works right, but am suggesting that there are courses of action that have not been seriously addressed that do not involve violence.  We do have dirty cops when things work right – its a natural part of human behavior.  What we need is a judicial system that disallows the Blue Brotherhood from covering for its own.  I’d love to see a massive increase in internal affairs. 
            Nothing I said implies that I require nor seek the ‘comfort’ of the law when confronted by the immediacy of violation of my person, family or home.  The law can fill out the paperwork.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            Also the trauma is what keeps the victims from coming forward, look at Sandusky and his son in law only coming forward when the pederast is already on trial, 15 plus years after being abused by him.

            I think of 9/11 the same way.  Enforced trauma gives predictable results and they are playing the numbers as to how many people will come forward and how many are still fucked up from the PTSD of the entire affair.

            Somewhere there is a rubric and statistical analysis of the psychological effects of shock and awe and it is being employed periodically to move pieces along the grand chessboard as we speak.

        • Camron Wiltshire

          “These issues highlight why the right to video record public officials in the commission of their duties is paramount to the well-being of the public at whose discretion they serve. ”
          Agreed, but why then do you give so much shit to people like Luke Rudkowski when he advocates people film the police and or politicians to keep them honest?

          • Calypso_1

            To believe my having a viewpoint that someone advocates would disallow the simultaneous disregard for their person or methodologies would be a false equivalency.   

          • Camron Wiltshire

            In that case be sure to support him when his work aligns with the bigger picture you just advocated, otherwise it appears you are throwing out the baby with the bath water in my opinion and doing harm to an active agent for change.  Constructive criticism and derision are two very different things.  Also you can always lead by example….

          • Calypso_1

            As stated previously I believe his actions do more harm than good.  I am not alone in this opinion.  I am not his ally so derision and snark are free of charge – though often contain knowledge if you care to look.  For constructive criticism – earn respect, or provide a signing bonus and suitable contract.

            Where do you want to be lead Mr. Wiltshire? 
             

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        I don’t want to sound like an asshole, but didn’t these women have husbands or boyfriends?

        That community really let two rapists run active and loose for 10 years and they knew who they were?

        I guess you weren’t kidding when you said “left-leaning”.

        • Monkey See Monkey Do

          That’s bullshit, I’m a lefty and I’ve killed a rapist.

          • TennesseeCyberian

            Generally people who kill people don’t brag about it on the Internet, but so long as you’re on a roll, care to elaborate?

          • Monkey See Monkey Do

            There is nothing to ‘brag’ about. I was just trying to illustrate a point that ‘lefty’ doesn’t automatically mean pacifist (from someone who should know). Stop being so curious, it might kill you one of these days ;)

          • TennesseeCyberian

            Generally people who kill people don’t threaten to do so on the Internet, but so long as you are making the appearance of doing so, care to elaborate?

          • Monkey See Monkey Do

            I’m sorry, was I not clear? You nose around in other peoples business and your bound to get burned. No one threatened anyone so you can sleep safe tonight, ok?

          • TennesseeCyberian

            Hey, man, you were putting it all out there. I was just following up.

        • Artor

          Generally, when you hear someone start a sentence with, “I don’t want to sound like an asshole, but…” You can expect the rest of the sentence to be a class example of assholery. Thanks for supporting the theory. As a matter of fact, I suspect many of the women didn’t have husbands or boyfriends. Maybe they did.  Why is it relevant? Do unmarried women deserve to be raped at gunpoint?
          The community that let these rapists run free for years was the cops. They are a separate culture from the citizens they patrol, and they protect eachother, right or wrong. They knew, but they kept quiet, and allowed it to continue.

          • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

            Yeah, I have to agree with your theory about people starting out with “I don’t mean to be an asshole…” but there didn’t seem to be any other way to preface the rest of what I was going to say.

            So to answer your question, no, there’s no way I’d believe that any woman deserves to be raped because of their relationship status (or any other reason). Whether they were single, married, divorced or widowed. To even suggest so is ridiculous.

            The point I was driving at was why wasn’t there some sort of vigilante action to euthanize the cop(s) in question. Assuming that they actually raped women and those women reported the rapes, it seems obvious that if the judicial system failed that some interested party should have taken matters into their own hands.

            Even though the police themselves should have put a stop to it, most
            people these days won’t be surprised to hear that instead the police
            covered those crimes up. That alone speaks volumes about the disparity
            between how the police should behave and how they actually behave.(That sort of thing has always been going on, it’s just that people are more aware of it now.) That disparity is actually the basis for the headline and the article which attempts to answer it.

            The idea that these guys were on a 10 year rape spree that no outraged, boyfriend, husband, brother, or father put an end to leaves me baffled.

          • Artor

            Most of the women were prostitutes or junkies, without family or friends to help them out. As such they all felt pretty intimidated by the cop raping them with a gun in their mouth, telling them “I’ll fucking kill you if you talk to anyone! I know where you live.” When the braver ones finally reported this, they were met with a wall of silence and complicit cops who did nothing but cover for their buddies. That’s why it took so long to come to light.
            It was “only” a 5-year raping spree, I just checked the old reports I misremembered.

            http://www.eugeneweekly.com/2007/03/29/coverstory.html

      • Camron Wiltshire

        Got any press on those assholes?  

        • Artor
          • Camron Wiltshire

            Thank you for the link and for your contributions to this important conversation.

              This quote sums it all up in my mind.  

            “In the document, Burrows alleges Magaña had “nearly 45 victims in over 100 documented acts of sexual abuse.” She alleges that officers and police repeatedly failed to respond to complaints. “During the entire five years of Magaña’s activities, 23 different officers, one chief of police and the director of human resources had actual knowledge of no less than 15 different complaints involving 15 different women who were being either harassed, raped or sexually abused by Magaña.”

      • Camron Wiltshire

        “In the document, Burrows alleges Magaña had “nearly 45 victims in over 100 documented acts of sexual abuse.” She alleges that officers and police repeatedly failed to respond to complaints. “During the entire five years of Magaña’s activities, 23 different officers, one chief of police and the director of human resources had actual knowledge of no less than 15 different complaints involving 15 different women who were being either harassed, raped or sexually abused by Magaña.”    Who watches the watchmen indeed.  http://www.eugeneweekly.com/2007/03/29/coverstory.html  Thank you Artor for sharing this and the link.  

  • RoboKy

    Huh…I really expected a raving lunatic talking about ZOG/socialist conspiracies/anti-christ/etc, judging from the comments here.  But no, he seemed pretty calm and rational about his stance.  Not that I was in agreement with EVERYTHING he said, but I certainly wasn’t foaming at the mouth about it.

    I guess I just don’t get as worked as some do when someone expresses an unpopular opinion on an internet blog and then youtube.

  • FrankCorey82901901

    as Debra responded I am amazed that some people can get paid $8855 in a few weeks on the computer. did you look at this site  http://disinfo.com/

  • Daod

    When you should shoot a redneck who has read a few history books.  

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      Early and Often.

      Those fuckers are extremely dangerous.

      • Brendan

        You’re right!
        Nice, conformist sheep who don’t bother to learn about history and end up repeating it are MUCH safer (at least for their oppressors.) Just think, our children can have more cool genocides to read about in the future when the next Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot comes along, AND we can have more material for movies like “The Killing Fields” and “Schindler’s List.” Just one small question though.
        If I meet you on the cattle car or in the forced-labor camp, do I have permission to smash your fucking teeth in?

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          You have clearly mis-read the tone of my post.

          I would suggest going back and reading my previous posts at least until you find where I boast of being from ultra-violent Appalachian descent.  Bootleggers, drug dealers, killers, arsonists, ( and the ones I’m not so proud of the), murderers, rapists, thieves, and the lowest of the low, a few cops – but they were family too.

          You don’t have to go back more than 15 post to suss out my opinion of how the “elites” should be dealt with.

          It is probably worth adding that I do have a college degree or two, so I’m liable to be one of the really dangerous ones.

  • Anon

     Bitch and moan all you want, the guy has a point. There has to be a time when people realize it’s either kill or be killed. The fact that so many people were quick to do exactly what he said in just this comment area scares me. Most of you are ready and willing to let them do whatever the fuck they want.  Next time one of you gets stopped by “law enforcement” and are then stripped searched for a license plate light being out, I hope you can kind of grasp what he’s talking about. FORGET THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE and LISTEN. He is by no means advocating walking out of your house and shooting a fucking cop. I’m just astonished how willfully ignorant you fuckers are. Sorry for cursing by the way.

    • The only thing to get is money

      Hmmm…kill or be killed that about sums up all of human experience, functioning, and culture. It’s a damn shame really. As a species we a doomed to a disastrous end, because we are so prone to violence, and violence itself is inevitable cause people take advantage of other people.

  • Heath

    I recently did work for a commander of a local police department. While I’m working, all I hear is porch monkey this, hate speech and over all disdain for the average citizen, and how their rights mean very little to him, as well as teaching his 15 year old to do the same.. I was speechless, and hurried my work along so I could leave. Next story is a friend of mine who was buying a bike from a local trooper. The trooper took it upon himself to look up my friend.  To make a long story short he was trying to sleep with my friend, who happens to be a man. The trooper is married and was sending threatening texts to my friend “who he knew just bought a home with his partner”. I could go into more details, but I think you see how the risk takers gravitate to positions of power. These are just two examples of a life long observation of humans in this job. There are I believe good men who stand behind their badge. Honestly though, I have only met a handful. 

  • Brother

    if you are going to defend yourself, you have to expect consequences. A self defense event is a life changing event. Life is the ultimate value, better alive in jail than dead in an instant from not taking proper defensive measures. If i had to go to jail for defending myself or a loved one I would without a doubt. It would be a sad moment but one full of pride, life is meaningless to me without honor and self respect. The question is: What is moral in a self defense situation? And going beyond morality, the question becomes; what is the smart thing to do in a self defense situation?

  • Test

    it’s hard to always have more arms than a govt with nukes and f22s

  • The only thing to get is money

    The problem is people don’t want to die. Fear of death keeps people firmly invested in “living” in absolute atrocity. They have “hope” that one day things will get better, but it never does. Fear becomes authority, deference to an “elite” paralysis in dealing with unfairness and apathy. Fear is the issue.

  • DeepCough

    When should you shoot a cop?

    Only in Indiana, when the cop enters your domicile without invitation and uses unlawful force.
    http://disinfo.com/2012/06/stand-your-ground-against-the-police-in-indiana/

  • The only thing to get is money

    Most comments for a disinfo post I’ve ever seen. This issue seems to have really struck a nerve.

  • okOkay

    i’m commenting just to add to the total amount of comments

    • The only thing to get is money

      Lets see if we could get to 100 comments!!!!

    • Posttopost

      I’m on board. Im for killing Santa Claus for unlawful entry also! Dont tread on me you fat bastard!

  • ClubGugly

    Read the article and watch the video before you fucking comment. He’s not telling you to go out and shoot up the local precinct. He’s telling you to fucking defend yourself. If you can’t even do that, then I just feel terrible for you and your hypothetical dead families. 

  • Jesus Borg

    The problem is cops have more guns than everybody and if a cop gets shot 100 more show up. So really its a moot point.

  • Geoarltr

    A really good lesson to all liberals regarding gun control.  Although some might prefer a world where guns were not readily accessible; remember the main reason to keep an armed society is to be able to react to a government when it comes to get you.  I personally would prefer a gun free society but I see the outweighing need for an armed society.  So this is one of the places I have to side with my conservative brothers and sisters.

    • Brendan

       You’d prefer a “gun-free” society, eh?
      We had one for about 10,000 years prior to the 16th century (between the rise of state-level “civilization” and the time when when effective firearms first enabled civilians to truly threaten knights, noblemen ect.) It was a world where slavery was an unquestioned fact of life; women were considered to be livestock; and thugs, criminals and bullies (AKA “noblemen” and “aristocrats”) were the undisputed, unaccountable lords of society.
      Be careful of what you wish for. You might get it!

  • justagirl

    the world needs more cop killers.  or at least more people that like to maim cops.. badly.

  • linli574

    tinyurl.com/cozaa3k

  • David Williams

    If I have to choose between the gangster-in-blue or me, I choose me.

  • David Williams

    If I have to choose between the gangster-in-blue or me, I choose me.