World Becomes “Hellish Nightmare of Suffering and Devastation” After Playing Civilization II For 10 Years

Lycerius writes on reddit:

I’ve been playing the same game of Civ II for 10 years. Though long outdated, I grew fascinated with this particular game because by the time Civ III was released, I was already well into the distant future. I then thought that it might be interesting to see just how far into the future I could get and see what the ramifications would be. Naturally I play other games and have a life, but I often return to this game when I’m not doing anything and carry on. The results are as follows.

The world is a hellish nightmare of suffering and devastation. There are 3 remaining super nations in the year 3991 A.D, each competing for the scant resources left on the planet after dozens of nuclear wars have rendered vast swaths of the world uninhabitable wastelands:

  • The ice caps have melted over 20 times (somehow) due primarily to the many nuclear wars. As a result, every inch of land in the world that isn’t a mountain is inundated swamp land, useless to farming. Most of which is irradiated anyway.
  • As a result, big cities are a thing of the distant past. Roughly 90% of the worlds population (at it’s peak 2000 years ago) has died either from nuclear annihilation or famine caused by the global warming that has left absolutely zero arable land to farm. Engineers (late game worker units) are always busy continuously building roads so that new armies can reach the front lines. Roads that are destroyed the very next turn when the enemy goes. So there isn’t any time to clear swamps or clean up the nuclear fallout.
  • Only 3 super massive nations are left. The Celts (me), The Vikings, And the Americans. Between the three of us, we have conquered all the other nations that have ever existed and assimilated them into our respective empires…

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39 Comments on "World Becomes “Hellish Nightmare of Suffering and Devastation” After Playing Civilization II For 10 Years"

  1. all this tells about is the basic assumptions built into Civ II (BTW, great game), not about the real world this is supposed to simulate. There’s a limit to what can be built into a simulation game, especially a Win98 era game produced when a 350 MHz processor was “fast”, 40G HDs were big.

  2. Very cool, but I’m surprised he’s not managed to win in 10 years. 

    • He officially “won” the game years ago but continued it (keeping his world) when most people would restart to play again. Also, most players went on to play newer versions (it’s up to version 5) so it’s pretty interesting that he kept it going so long! That’s why he’s at such an impasse, he wants to continue but he’s at a virtual stalemate, if he makes the wrong moves his empire will fall and 10 years down the drain.

  3. If only we could live in such a paradise in reality.

  4. the most ridiculous and disturbing this about this post is how excited i got after reading it..

    i must admit, when i read the headline i thought some actual guy’s life had become a “hellish nightmare” because of some sort of civ2 centred obsessive cumpulsion. once i got over the disappointment that this was not the case (and that i was once again alone in the world) i enjoyed reading some of the posts.

  5. The only thing to get is money | Jun 12, 2012 at 8:53 pm |

    YES! The story above is exactly what is going to happen! To bad I’ll be long dead by then… unless life extension technologies are developed that would make me functionally immortal.

  6. DeepCough | Jun 12, 2012 at 9:05 pm |

    I wonder what would happen if we simulated “Obamacare” in Civilization II? Oh, wait, I forgot–COMMUNISM!

    • …It works fine in Canada. 

    • Why are Americans, or seemingly most of them, so afraid of the idea of decent, free healthcare for all? It works just fine here in the UK. Or it did. Now, with their piggy eyes on the US model the Tories seem to want to destroy an institution we should be proud of. Oh, and don’t believe the myth that treatment is bad. I have had two heart attacks and had excellent and free treatment. Exactly what I pay my taxes for. 
      Whereas I watched a mate pay $1000 for an x-ray and some aspirin in the US.

      • It’s because Americans are afraid of almost everything, all the time.

        Our “leaders” (and by that I mean billionaire business”people” and their servants, the politicians) like to keep us in a constant state of hand-wringing nervousness by playing ordinary people against each other.

        That way while Group A is fighting Group B, C, D, etc. Group Overlord can reach one hand into our underwear for a fun grope, and the other hand into our ever-shrinking wallets to grab the few pennies we might have remaining.

        It’s a fun game for them. An even more enjoyable game IMO would be to have THEM be scared of US. VERY, VERY scared.

      • I’m glad it worked for you, I have to agree the NHS seems fair and good when it comes to physical maladies… unfortunately though the mental health I’ve found deplorable. I’ve been caring for someone diagnosed with one of the less severe forms of schizophrenia and I’m absolutely shocked and appalled with the way they’re treated, the first nurse took every opportunity to aggravate the gentleman’s condition and even had *me* in tears in one particular session, after that he was sent a social worker (although she’s been good with helping out with practical issues like benefits) who knows almost nothing about his condition, and he’s barely received any mental help at all. I dread to think what it’s like for the person who suffers a much more severe form. If I were to ask anything of our NHS it’s that they seriously reconsider their approach to mental health. It’s like they’ve just stuck him on meds and left him to rot.

        • 6Blackie6 | Jun 13, 2012 at 5:28 am |

           It is a shame the way mental health disorders are “treated” in the UK… Now imagine the same person in the current US system.

          • MoralDrift | Jun 14, 2012 at 4:33 am |

            mental health is treated poorly everywhere, remember its your fault your crazy!

          • discusthrower | Jun 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm |

             i think it’s just a matter of ppl being nasty/ignorant/anti-social and being unable to appreciate ppl or treat them w respect.

            I wouldnt be surprised if we could reduce a lot of the mental health disorders by just being decent to one another…  but ppl are too foolish to realize the potential wasted, or how their own beliefs and esteem has been influenced by anti-social folkways…

            but if you manage to remove yourself from the mass dysfunction you can actually appreciate how wonderful life is..

          • Yes, that is a dark prospect indeed from some of the stories I have been hearing, but I think what MoralDrift and discusthrower both said are relevant too. Even though both me and my friend live in a city full of people, a supportive community is difficult to forge. Naturally (I suppose) in our ongoing quest to understand certain strange events we found alot of information about tribal shamanism, in particular Terence McKenna’s ‘Invisible Landscape’ mentions that across many cultures there were established roles, functions and methods of healing for people who in modern day terms would be diagnosed with schizophrenia. So why now today are they treated largely with confusion and ignorance even seemingly by the medical community?

          • Thank God I went broke | Jul 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm |

            I’ve been there…. same story ….put me on Seroquel 300mg two tabs at bedtime, Gabepentine 600 mg. twice a day, Try it for awhile and see what kind of zombie you turn into.  If I hadn’t run out of money to pay the insurance, I’d still be in LaLa land…..

      • DeepCough | Jun 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm |

        There’s no profit in “decent, free healthcare” that’s why it’s “COMMUNIST!”

    • 6Blackie6 | Jun 13, 2012 at 5:32 am |

      Communism: Government are the ones who steal your money.
      Capitalism: Corporations steal your money.
      Why do Americans think their system is so superior?

      • Money is speech, not property.

      • Capitalism:  You chose where you lose your money.  The corp cannot just take it, they provide a service.  If the service or product sucks, they will go out of business.

        • Jin The Ninja | Jun 13, 2012 at 3:48 pm |

           = a second grader’s economic analysis of a socio-economic system.

        • 6Blackie6 | Jun 13, 2012 at 5:47 pm |

           Did you “choose” to let the Government give hundreds of billions of your tax dollars to the big banks? What service was provided in that case? The service of bilking the public coffers?

        • The government provides a service. If the service sucks you vote for another party. They will not be able to raise money for campaigning. Oh wait, sorry, this works only for a real democracy, not for a system with only two, nearly identical parties.

    • Using public money to subsidize private insurance companies isn’t communism. Don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean. 

    • Monkey See Monkey Do | Jun 13, 2012 at 9:01 am |


    • Obamacare dropped my heath insurance bill from 500$ a month to 150$ a month. I can now actually afford to live. If that’s “communism,” I like it and you can go fuck yourself.

  7. Anarchy Pony | Jun 12, 2012 at 9:30 pm |

    In civilization the only winning move is not to play. 

  8. Colony Room | Jun 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm |

    Wow, whats strange is a just bought this game at a Goodwill store for 1.50. 

  9. I read this on reddit the other day, the commenters on there seemed to have an easy solution to fix this guys problem. This is just typical of sites like this trying to scare people with only bits and pieces of whats going on instead of the whole story.

  10. MoralDrift | Jun 14, 2012 at 4:35 am |


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