Bilderberg All Star Awards

Bend over and grab your ankles for the 2012 Bilderberg All Star Awards… Where your fate is determined!

  • Calypso_1

    There’s this little thumbs down button – use it. 

  • Confus3d

    I don’t know what to believe any more. There’s so much dirt on WeAreChange, Luke Rudkowski, and RussiaToday. Like, I understand the Bilderberg stuff, but I don’t get all the other confusing crap associated with the supposed good guys like WeAreChange and the occupy protests.

    • Camron Wiltshire

      Do you want to be told what to think?

    • Jin The Ninja

      believe in compassion, democracy, social justice and human rights. if you believe in those things, the truth readily presents itself. it becomes an easy ‘one and not the other.’ it also increases the amount of faculty you have for critical thought-since you’d read people like noam, bookchin, bell hooks, andrea smith,emma goldman, ivan illich, and selma james among SO MANY others as opposed to the truely intellectually-challenged gimps the right has to offer.

      • Jesus Borg

        So libertarians are “THE RIGHT” aren’t you drinking some kind of kool aide too?

        I love me some Amy Goodman and some Alexander Cogburn and also appreciate these knucleheads too. You have to have a sense of humor. If you are always like “Oooh, its “the RIGHT” its hard to have one.

        • Jin The Ninja

          right-libertarians are on ‘the right.’ and i never specifically mentioned libertarians by name.

           i have a sense of humour, but i also have a sense of justice.

          notice the two persons you listed as ‘loving’ are on the left (not radical left, but still left). i would expect you to offer thinkers on the right (right-libertarians if you will) who you are NOT intellectually challenged.

          • Jesus Borg

            so there is only right and left? How about up, down, diagonal, macro, micro, NSEW?

            Oh, so this was a private conversation you were having here in the comments section of an internationally popular website?

            OK, well just sayin. Shoe horning all points of view as either right or left and basically looking at it as a binary system of good and evil may not work for you forever.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            I agree, we say nay to pigeonholes.

          • Jin The Ninja

            of course. no one actively WANTS to sit in the right hand corner wearing a dunce cap.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            …. Jin, just try to imagine, the shades of grey….

          • Jin The Ninja

            the dao is gray. the fluid motion of yin and yang.

          • Jin The Ninja

            the xy axis is a common tendency in political science. right/left authortarian and libertarian. but on the far left, very bottom corner you will find where i rest, and many others lay. you can feign indigence and indifference but the right has been historically authoritarian, anti-democratic, and imperialist. and when i refer to the ‘right’ i mean ALL mainstream tendencies and american style democracy.

          • Jesus Borg

            We Are Change is authoritarian, anti-democratic and imperialist, how exactly?

          • Jin The Ninja

            i said, ‘the right’- is WAC a right-wing organisation?

          • Jesus Borg

             That’s what I am asking you. You seemed to say that it was on “the right”

          • Jesus Borg

            Are you familiar with Lao Tzu and the Tao Te ching? Is he left wing or right wing? Better find out first before you read him so you’ll know weather to like him or not.

          • BuzzCoastin

            The supreme good is like water,
            which nourishes all things without trying to.
            It is content with the low places that people disdain.
            Thus it is like the Tao.

            In dwelling, live close to the ground.
            In thinking, keep to the simple.
            In conflict, be fair and generous.
            In governing, don’t try to control.
            In work, do what you enjoy.
            In family life, be completely present.

            When you are content to be simply yourself
            and don’t compare or compete,
            everybody will respect you.

          • Jesus Borg

            I am trying to see how that could sound like marxism to somebody but I just can’t see it.

          • Anon

            When rich speculators prosper

            While farmers lose their land;

            when government officials spend money

            on weapons instead of cures;

            when the upper class is extravagant and irresponsible

            while the poor have nowhere to turn-

            all this is robbery and chaos.

            It is not in keeping with the Tao.

          • BuzzCoastin

            you’re starting to get it

          • Jesus Borg

             Dude, I’ve read the Tao te Ching like a hundred times, in four different English translations. I mean Lao Tzu was some type of government adviser (if he was an historical person and the sole author and not a collection of writings based around a school of thought) and writes some things in that vein. But I read it mostly for inspiration in my daily life.

            But anyway, to me the leadership stuff resonates to libertarianism.

          • BuzzCoastin

            When a superior man
            hears of the Tao,
            he immediately
            begins to embody it.

            When an average man hears of the Tao,
            he half believes it,
            half doubts it.

            When a foolish man hears of the Tao,
            he laughs out loud.
            If he didn’t laugh,
            it wouldn’t be the Tao.

            are ya laughin with me Jesus

          • Jesus Borg

             Not sure what your point is. Like I said I read it many times. That looks like the translation I read the most. I forget the Dude’s name, but He also translated the Bhagavad Gita. He takes a few libertites with the text so its good to consult commentaries.

            A lot of born again Christians like to quote Bible passages without commentary (often in all caps) and I am never clear what their exact point is without commentary either but I am sure its very clear to them what they are intending to say.

          • BuzzCoastin

            “Studying the Way” is just a figure of speech.
            It is a method of arousing people’s interest
            in the early stages of their development.
            In fact, the Way is not something which can be studied.
            Study leads to the retention of concepts and
            so the Way is entirely misunderstood.

          • Jin The Ninja

            it is libertarianism. libertarian-socialism. properly referred to as ‘anarchronistic anarchism.’

            “In propitious affairs the place of honor is the left, but in unpropitious affairs we honor the right.”

            “The strong man while at home esteems the left as the place of honor, but when armed for war it is as though he esteems the right hand, the place of less honor. Thus a funeral ceremony is so arranged. The place of a subordinate army officer is also on the left and the place of his superior officer is on the right. The killing of men fills multitudes with sorrow; we lament with tears because of it, and rightly honor the victor as if he was attending a funeral ceremony.”

            you see, borg, we can’t take the historical chinese context out of daoism, otherwise it can mean whatever we in the contemporary western world ascribe to it.

          • Calypso_1

            Ruling a large country is like cooking a small fishUsing the Tao to manage the worldIts demons have no powerNot only do its demons have no powerIts gods do not harm peopleNot only do its gods not harm peopleThe sages also do not harm peopleThey both do no harm to one anotherSo virtue merges and returns

          • Jin The Ninja

             you should really read my past post history before asking such an inane question. i’ve frequently engaged my daoist leanings and buddhist leanings not only in commentary, but also in posts. i know murray rothbard has done an impeccably convoluted job of linking daoism with right-libertarianism, but the truth is daoism, politically and intellectually has far more in common (even anachronistically) with anarchism/lib-socialism. in fact there is even a vein of anarchist thought called, ‘anarcha-daoism,’ that links daoist ideas with chinese historical social tendencies i.e. well field system, among others. george woodcock does a very good job engaging some of this early anti-state, anti-hierarchical thought in several of his books. beyond that, i was also an asian studies major, and i am in fact also chinese (and am mandarin fluent, with some cantonese and hokien).

          • Jesus Borg

             Lao Tzu on Justice:

            When the great Tao perishes

            There is humaneness and JUSTICE.

            When intelligence is manifest

            There is great deception.

            When the six relationships are not in harmony

            There is filial piety and compassion.

            When the country is in chaos

            Loyal ministers appear.

            Get rid of holiness and abandon wisdom and the people will benefit a hundredfold.

            Get rid of reciprocity and abandon JUSTICE and the people will return to filial piety and compassion.

            Get rid of cleverness and abandon profit, and thieves and gangsters will not exist.

            I look at it like this if you are motivated by justice, you are tied by a karmic chord to people you consider as “evil” or “wrong doers” in your case those you consider “on the right” or “imperialists.”

            So then you create this duality and you need these guys like they need you. I wouldn’t be surprised if you listened to Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh etc. on a regular basis just to get yourself incensed.

            Not everyone is caught up in that duality.  Lao Tzu is about letting go of that duality. The way I read him anyway.

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Admit it Lipservice, you loved that shit 😉

  • BuzzCoastin

    Marshall McLuhan (the media is the massage)
    was invited to one of the first ever Bilderberg meetings

    he came away from that meeting disillusioned
    I can’t find the exact quote
    but essentially he found them to be dull-witted oafs
    there are reports that he actually told them this

    if you have never worked at a high level in a global corporation
    (I have)
    you would never know the preponderance of dull-witted morons
    that end-up as CEOs
    (Jamie Dimon is Exhibit A)

    the real evil work is done by B-school robots
    using MS Excel & PP
    the CEO then considers his options
    and picks the easy-money / easy-profit plan
    designed by his B-schooled robots

    the consequences of the plan on society,
    on humans or the environment
    never enter into consideration
    it’s all about the bottom line & the net net
    as perceived by robots

  • Arborwayne

    Alex Jones would be so depressed and spiritually deflated if the NWO DIDN’T come take all his liberties away.

    • Calypso_1

      Very good.  Why is it that so many individuals, those that claim (dubiously) to be fighting the system, are so focused on the deprivation of their ‘freedoms’?  How many internal degrees of freedom have they achieved?  How much misery that is self-generated is attributed to the powers that be? 

  • Threedinium

    As far as I’m concerned, the day I see a member of this group break down into tears of grief and despair when confronted with the suffering of the world is the day I start giving a rat’s ass about these clowns.