Dumping Iron In The Seas Could Slow Global Warming

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Prepare yourselves for radical unintended consequences if these scientists manage to convince governments to go along with their plan. Alastair Doyle reports for Reuters via the Christian Science Journal:

Dumping iron in the seas can help transfer carbon from the atmosphere and bury it on the ocean floor for centuries, helping to fight climate change, according to a study released on Wednesday.

The report, by an international team of experts, provided a boost for the disputed use of such ocean fertilisation for combating global warming. But it failed to answer questions over possible damage to marine life.

When dumped into the ocean, the iron can spur growth of tiny plants that carry heat-trapping carbon to the ocean floor when they die, the study said.

Scientists dumped seven tonnes of iron sulphate, a vital nutrient for marine plants, into the Southern Ocean in 2004. At least half of the heat-trapping carbon in the resulting bloom of diatoms, a type of algae, sank below 1,000 metres (3,300 ft)…

[continues at Reuters via the Christian Science Journal]

The Freakonomics guys also espouse this idea:

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  • Marklar_Prime

    Ah, more unscientific gobbledy gook from the global warming fanatics.

    • Linsang811

      When 97% of climatologists say global warming is a reality and the other 3% are shamelessly open about being bought off by companies with OBVIOUS conflicts of interest such as Shell and BP….. yeah. Either you’re stupid or you think the ENTIRE scientific community is engaged in a massive conspiracy…. which would still make you stupid. 

      • Jackedu317

         so how long did it take you to question every climatologist on the subject? it must have taken a while. i’d like to see signatures, interview notes, etc. see… you believe what you read is true because someone told you it was SCIENCE, the same way people used to take the bible literally because GOD SAYS SO. so called “science” is bought and paid for by the same people that own your government, your banks, your educational institutions, your entertainment industry, and so on. to paraphrase plato, poorly, writing will make people stupid because instead of experiencing life for themselves, they will simply read what someone else wrote that they did and accept it as truth. it seems to me Marklar_Prime still has the capacity for independent thought. good for him!

        • Dimwit Patrol

          Grow the fuck up kid, the whole anti establishment, “I’m so independent” thing is great, for questioning injustice, and oppression, but this is not the fucking same thing. What’s your burden of proof, motherfucker? 
          Once shit is already beyond any remote chance of repair? Once the global average temp has increased 6 degrees C? Or higher? Once the ocean has raised 60 feet and millions, even billions, of coastal residents are forced to be refugees? Once the world’s current agricultural land has dried up and burned away? Once the ocean is so acidic it can’t support complex organisms? Once the little remaining wilderness is completely destroyed? At what point will you say; “Whoops! I guess it was real, and boy I wish that me and people like me hadn’t been obstructionist pieces of shit, that stopped the measures necessary to prevent this, oh well.”

          • Jin The Ninja

             love this.

          • dimwit slasher

            Erm, the burden of proof doesn’t work backwards, if you state a position as being “fact” the burden of proof is on you, those who disagree do not have to prove anything.  It is they who must be convinced of your truth, not the other way round.  Feel free to unburden yourself. 

          • Linsang811

             Burden of proof has been more than met by the climatologists. At this point, anyone claiming there is no global warming, in the face of overwhelming evidence…. BoP is on them now.

          • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

            The issue of Anthropogenic Global Warming has not been settled, despite the many, many assertions that it has.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            Calling bullshit on that one.  Seriously if you want to dig in head over to wattsupwiththat.com  Climate gate is plenty but the rabbit hole goes much deeper, be sure to google GIM (Generation Investment Management) Al Gore and David Blood of Goldman & Sachs, because we all know they really, really care about us!

            Remember Gore’s “Carbon Footprint”  is 20 X’s the average Joe.  Do the math, realize the hustle and think for yourself.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            This is a great example of slippery slope fear mongering.
            Riddle me this.  At what point does Co2 concentration supposedly become catastrophic?  Has this level been surpassed pre industrial revolution?  If so during which period?  Were there any beneficial aspects to this incursion of ‘excess’ Co2?  Quick answer, increased abundance of plant life further north of the Equator = higher food yields, greater resilience in all manner of plant life and no catastrophic warming or seal level rise.
            Study up on the carbon cycle, a minute enhancement of a trace gas does not equal doomsday.
            PS> I find it mighty shady that you receive 10 likes when you’ve effectively said nothing.  Seems this pattern displays some meddling.  Or are sheeple so completely misinformed?  Do google counts authentically register all tallies?  Gasp!  The Memory hole is real??

          • Camron Wiltshire

            Yes I said seals!  j/k  Sea level rise for the anal retentive hatenerds out there.

        • Monkey See Monkey Do

          Please, enlighten us all as to why you think climate change is a grand conspiracy involving the vast majority of the scientific community? You reasons for why they made it up? …..this should be good.

          • Andrew

            I bet it involves taxing beathing.

        • Linsang811

          Congratulations on being a completely ignorant fucktard on how the scientific peer-review process works. This is why people like you should just STFU. You’re in over your head and you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • Camron Wiltshire

            Wow, looks like you are insecure in your dogma.

      • Gleko

        A quote froma  real scientist, I’ll let you figure out who actually sid it, but if you actually READ the study you are quoting your nonsense 97% number from, you’ll no doubt figure it out.  

        ““..and I do not think that a consensus has anything to do with whether a hypothesis is correct. Check out the history of science…you will find that scientific discovery is generally made by ignoring the ‘consensus..’” “

        • Linsang811

           Another moron who has no idea how the scientific peer-review process works. *Le sigh*

          • Andrew

            Perhaps their motive is freedom rather than truth.

    • Calypso_1

      That’s odd.  The SMOG scale for measure of Gobbledygook indicates that comprehension of this article only requires a 10th grade education.  Have you taken the quiz that accompanied the article? http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1209/Are-you-scientifically-literate-Take-our-quiz

      • FU

        I only made it to 9th grade. I must be the dumb. 

        • Calypso_1

          The outcome of your self-assessment is probably accurate enough to preclude any further involvement on my part.

          • FU

            I rather internalize the reality of me being a fool, than  to be  oblivious of  being constantly intellectually arrogant which makes one pretty much useless in any meaningful conversation, debate or group brain storm, well for that matter any cutting edge research or spiritual quest. Get off your high horse son before it bucks you off; the fall can be quite hard recover from. How was my assessment of you ?

          • Calypso_1

            Meaningful conversation?  ‘Cutting edge’ research?  Spiritual quests? I’m no good at these things.  Try someone else.
            As to arrogance –Like war paint.  Flattery will get you nowhere. 
            I am not your son.

          • Jin The Ninja

             why do trolls love age play? for me it’s like fine, between  2 consenting adults, none of my bizness, but don’t coerce ME into some daddy-fetish:S

          • Andrew

            I suspect projection.  In online arguments, the persons most likely to be belittling opponents with references to immaturity are almost always the ones behaving least maturely.

          • Calypso_1

            There are two things that would allow me to accept an older man (and I myself am middle-aged) calling me son:  1)  I respect his wisdom, experience and guidance – in which case I would consider it an honor.  2)  He can outshoot me with a .45 at 50 yards.

            PS – My own father makes it on both accounts.

          • Jin The Ninja

            wisdom and experience is the marker i (also) use to measure respect. although give my dad a gun, and he would probably shoot himself in the foot with it.
            i will say this for him, he definitely brings a certain hong kong cowboy flair to anything else he does. and he is an excellent horseback rider and hockey jock. i am a proficient rider, but all altogether horrendous skater.

          • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

            You’ve been a bad boy Jin, now go to my room.

          • Calypso_1

            Classic.

          • Jin The Ninja

            :P

    • The Baffler

      Well, Jesus did it. He got drunk with Muhammed and they turned the heat up on a bet. Don’t you know anything about the Bible?

    • Dimwit Patrol

      More brainless bah-ing from the sheep that are enabling genocide. If exxon ain’t cutting you a check, you’re getting a raw deal.

      • Phantom raider

        If you want to talk genocide, feel free to check out the programs that “Green” Policies are supporting in Africa, so companies can keep on polluting.  Ugandans being forced off their land, Indians being sterilized in order to stop population growth.  Please feel free to educate yourself first before making stupid comments.  Try googling EU and EAU carbon credit frauds.  

        • Andrew

          Please submit some articles regarding those policies.  Seriously, you know more about them than I, and people should be informed.

          • Jin The Ninja

            andrew, i confess my deep envy of your very benign seeming, yet completely subversive posts. at least that is the nature i ascribe to them. what i am trying to say is: i think i get you, and if my assessment is correct, love what you do.

    • Camron Wiltshire

      They are really trying to reanimate the AGW corpse huh…. Why don’t they just bomb neverland and kill all of the boogiemen at once?  Don’t forget Al-CIA-DUH the every terrorist for your false flag needs.  

  • Read your horoscope

    I heard this one here a while back and its my favorite solution to global warming. PAINT TEXAS WHITE!!!!!!! 

  • Calypso_1

    Queue the arrival of the thought terminating clichés formerly known as ‘Paultards’.

  • ninja noob

    god these people are insane, why dont they start by stopping with all the pollution, spraying, hacking,slashing and burning. Then plant a few trees and watch what happens.. i guarentee you this world is way more resiliant than scientist give it credit. We just need to stop all the stress on the environment and give it a chance to heal itself. too bad most jobs that plant trees and help the environment are volenteer. can’t wait for this society to get flipped on its head. Iceland inspires me :D

    • The Baffler

      It would be nice. A little respect is all nature asks for.

  • Marcy

     They proposed this 6 years ago already. How fast people forget.

    At the time, it was shot down because those “tiny plants” aren’t so tiny. And by dumping a lot of iron in to the ocean, the eventual effect would be that a lot of these plants would float to the surface and block the sunlight for the fishes over very large surfaces, effectively killing the supply of fish.

  • maxde

    I thought the bad carbon was in the air, not the sea? It seems like some corporation has a lot of iron it would like to get rid of…
    And what ever side of the global warming side of the fence your are on, there is no excuse for treating the earth like shit 

  • The only thing to get is money

    ah history repeats itself. Tinkering with the environment always leads to unintended consequences

    http://io9.com/5927112/chinas-worst-self+inflicted-disaster-the-campaign-to-wipe-out-the-common-sparrow 

  • chubby

    “I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and
    ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to
    want to know.
    The path without a heart will turn against men
    and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to
    seek nothing.”
    “This question is one that
    only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the
    same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into
    the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths,
    but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path
    is good; if it doesn’t, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but
    one has a heart, the other doesn’t. One makes for a joyful journey; as
    long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you
    curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.””I
    have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and
    ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to
    want to know. The path without a heart will turn against men
    and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to
    seek nothing.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3USQRmVy0uc&feature=related

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now – and world has been cooling for 2,000 years
    Study of semi-fossilised trees gives accurate climate reading back to 138BCWorld was warmer in Roman and Medieval times than it is now

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2171973/Tree-ring-study-proves-climate-WARMER-Roman-Medieval-times-modern-industrial-age.html#ixzz21Ct2X5bj
    Just saying…. The debate is definitely NOT over.  It’s only the IPCC and carbon credit coveting poly ticks who are forcing this nonsense on everyone.  Dendrochronology is a key proxy for determining long term climate records.  You can’t just ignore this and presume to be scientific in your methods.

    Pre industrial temperatures exceeding current temperatures as well as almost doubling the Co2 present now.  AGW adherents IGNORE the data which does not conform with their alarmist biases.
    Almost always they have a financial stake in the game and have pledged allegiance to continue receiving grants from the gravy train. 
    Look at Dr. Judith Curry coming to her own senses about this issue, chief of the Ga. Tech Earth and Atmospheric Sciences department there.

    Ridiculing those who disagree with you is a sure sign of an inability to defend your perspective rationally.

    Follow the money and the subterfuge (climate gate anyone!?!)

    It’s not difficult to figure out what is really happening here.

  • Colony Room

    I believe fertilization of the ocean areas would not be such a bad idea. A.. . Because at least ideas are starting off a little on the bolder side as of late, which is a great thing because lets face it we need to be creative on saving the planet at this point.
    B… we need to get the ball rolling on ideas, study, and eventually implement infrastructure growth on the places that need it the most. I would say for example the USA, China, Africa and India, while also every independent nation with the resources to do it.
    My idea is that we need to study and improve on all the unstable earthly elements we can. Requires creative thinking and much debate. But do it soon, for this exact reason!
    Its about the water people, we must keep it clean and bring it into the land to ferilize the soil. We can do it with our knowledge, I know we can by now. The companies must do it, the scientists and engineers must be properly, and constantly educated. I say we must start convincing the leadership to do as needed, because if things aren’t on the right path by the 50’s of this century, we’re fucked.

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