Bohemian Grove: ‘You’re Wasting Your Time’

Via WeAreChange 

Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange talks to MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell about the Bohemian Grove and the people who attend it.


Luke Rudkowski is an independent journalist, activist, live streamer and founder of

48 Comments on "Bohemian Grove: ‘You’re Wasting Your Time’"

  1. StillAtMyMoms | Jul 12, 2012 at 5:23 pm |

    “It means nothing,” as Lawrence nervously itches his neck; an indication of lying.  He’s part of the FUCKING MSM.  What did you expect, WeAre”Change”?  Of course he’s complicit and not going to be privy to any tantalizing bit of info.

    • DeepCough | Jul 12, 2012 at 5:28 pm |

      I’m taking O’Donnel’s side. Alex Jones has already “exposed” Bohemian Grove, so right there, nothing new is being done with this interview, which isn’t too much different from the previous
      one. I say Luke and his fellow WACs need to take their journalism up a notch. Do what
      foreign correspondents do and actually go into the “heart of darkness” to get the real story,
      ’cause this is getting real amateur now.

      • Kolothos Apollonia | Jul 12, 2012 at 5:33 pm |

        I agree with him too, I especially liked the point about the mindset of Newt Gingrich.

  2. Drinky McGee | Jul 12, 2012 at 5:26 pm |

     Potty mouth.

  3. I’d be wasting my time listening to anything coming from MSNBC.

  4. zombieslapper | Jul 12, 2012 at 6:39 pm |

    God, I used to love Lawrence, but he is such a tool for the Democratic party now. Fuck him.

  5. Secrecy Is Survival | Jul 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm |

    “It Means Nothing”. TRANSLATED: It means nothing to YOU. The ultimate key to power over others has always been secrecy, and that will never change. When you don’t know who the enemy really is, it is hard to mount a counter-offensive. The people/entities running this world will remain safe so long as they remain anonymous and only appear to the rest of us through their puppets. The greatest chance of combating the true villains in this world/reality is to find out who or WHAT they really are. Shouting out names like Banksters and Politicians is pointless; they are only pawns. The true puppet masters would never be so careless as to allow their identities to be known publicly. Just think of that old game called battleships; as soon as you know where to attack, it’s just a matter of time until it is over for the opponent.

    • BrianApocalypse | Jul 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm |

       But what has that got to do with a bunch of rich Republicans dressing up as women and pissing against trees?

  6. BrianApocalypse | Jul 12, 2012 at 8:02 pm |

    O’Donnell is talking a lot of sense here, and at the same time actually trying to help the WAC people, even though they don’t seem to be able to see it.
    The question he is posed at 0:25, “Are you admitting that you know about Bohemian Grove??” really exposes the silly mindset in action here. Why WOULDN’T he know about it, seeing as millions of people around the world do? When the information is available to anyone on the internet? When the existence of the place has been public knowledge for decades and was even discussed in news broadcasts back as far as the early 80s??

    Then Luke asking about child sacrifices … /facepalm

    A lot of people who believe in the conspiracy theories surrounding the Grove (and a lot of other conspiracy theories for that matter) seem to think they are in possession of some ultra-secret knowledge that could bring the establishment to its knees at any moment. But the truth of the matter is much closer to what O’Donnell says about it. It’s nothing in particular. Just a bunch of rich republicans doing stupid sexually repressed shit in the woods.

    • Liam_McGonagle | Jul 13, 2012 at 11:48 am |

      Yeah, no kidding.  Obama actually released information about his unconstitutional kill-list in order to win “strong on defense” points for the election, knowing full well that no one that counts is going to view that as a negative.  Certainly not his nominal “opposition”.

      Seriously, the world’s dysfunction is not and never has been due to a want of information.

    • Jin The Ninja | Jul 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm |

      i agree wholeheatedly. this series of  posts, has been for me personally, a very prolonged /facepalm. but then again what do i know? the agenda has been served, the red base/lunatic fringe has been distracted. yay amerikkka.

  7. I’ve always wondered about Sasha Shulgin’s membership
    and participation in Bohemian Grove.

  8. >‘You’re Wasting Your Time’

    He’s right for a lot of different reasons.
    BG is just a distracting psyop for those who are watching the watchers.
    Joe Sixpack could care less and his gullibility keeps him from connecting the dots.
    So it’s a non-story to anyone but us Kooks.

    There are so many other things that supersede BG in importance:
    Bush/Cheney torture
    The Bankster Mafia
    the list is endless
    and BG is near the bottom of the list.

    • Jin The Ninja | Jul 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm |

       “BG is just a distracting psyop for those who are watching the watchers.”

      this is (by far) the funniest, most wackiest paradox of the jonesian conspiracists. “pollution? doesn’t exist. but chemtrails? -cause of all evil!.”

      • electronic information overload
        and control of the flood gates
        was not missed by the boys at DARPA
        when they were thinking about the Internet

      • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 14, 2012 at 5:38 am |

        Where does Alex Jones deny “pollution” again?  If you build a strawman at least dress it up a bit more.   Also I don’t recall him ever having said or implied “chemtrails” (Stratospheric Geo Engineering, admittedly happening as per the U.N. moratorium, don’ take my word for it, ask Reuters.) are the “cause of all evil.” 

        • Jin The Ninja | Jul 14, 2012 at 1:15 pm |

          i’ve always assumed corporate apologists came wrapped in a starred and stripped ron paul shirt, but that’s just me.

          • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 15, 2012 at 12:47 am |

            So you can’t defend your previous ad hominem so you skip right ahead to the next one.  Jin you are much more deserving of the title of “faux intellectual” given your recent track record than those you attack and deride with your own special brand of insecurity and projection.  If you can actually focus on what is being said instead of attacking every messenger you may find you could make more impact towards your causes.   Resorting to smear and ad hominem is sure sign of a weak argument. 

          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 15, 2012 at 3:13 am |

            Resorting to smear and ad hominem is sure sign of a weak argument.

          • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 15, 2012 at 5:00 am |

            Onus is on you to defend your previous statements.  I was only reminding you you ought not level aspersions you yourself are not guilty of.  You seem like an intelligent cat but I can’t help but notice you suspend that to attack Alex Jones or Ron Paul.  If you would present a constructive argument against them, I would be more inclined to hear you out, but all you mustered was essentially an ad hominem attack on both.

            I brought up insecurity and projection not because I only want to see that in you, but to emphasize the polarization when we resort to Ad hominem alone.

            That being said, I hope you understand it is for illustrative purposes and not because I think that comprises your character solely.  

            Everyone here is imperfect and hopefully seeking some solace in the pursuit of truth with their peers.

            We will all advance when we can objectively (as possible) parse our own beliefs, blinders and blockages as openly as we dissect the various media presented.
            The so called “elite” want nothing more than in fighting as it keeps the $lave$ distracted and disorganized. 

            So like we used to say on the playground, “Lets leave Moms out of this” or in our case, “Let’s leave ad hominems out of this, as well as all of the other fallacies that distort honest consideration of what is.

            Stratospheric GeoEngineering is very real by the way.  


          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 15, 2012 at 11:49 am |

            Camron, your pseudo-bullshit does nothing to dissuade me from telling the subjective truth as i see it, based on my life experiences, academic experiences, identity, and ideology. I have never asserted otherwise. -thanks, Jin.

          • Calypso_1 | Jul 15, 2012 at 12:30 pm |

            I’ve found it’s so much more fun just to collapse threads started by the village idiot than to get caught up in them.

          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm |

            actually a great idea. and probably i should have. for some reason, i am always compelled to respond to their charge. must be my youthful ego;)

          • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 16, 2012 at 11:25 am |

            You would do better to collapse your ego. Also you still haven’t intellectually defended any of your opinions here.  Just an fyi.

          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 16, 2012 at 11:59 am |

            to you, but the meaning was clear to the rest.

          • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 19, 2012 at 8:27 am |

            I disagree.  Removing Ego does not mean becoming a meek little mouse with no opinionin thi sworld. Often times it involes championing truth and calling out bullshit,go figure…

          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 19, 2012 at 12:13 pm |

            go figure.

          • Calypso_1 | Jul 19, 2012 at 9:04 am |

            Fleet of mind.  Dancing circles around ponderous intellect.  Alleviates such cumbersome  and obtuse forms of mental rigor mortis.  

          • Camron Wiltshire | Jul 16, 2012 at 11:28 am |

            “pseudo bullshit”  Jin, you were the person incapable of intellectually  defending their point of view, and when challenged to do so you predictably fell back on subjective emotionalism.  Again your need to label is a reflection of your own philosophical corruption.  

          • Jin The Ninja | Jul 16, 2012 at 12:01 pm |

            when you call me ideologically corrupted, you could literally pay me no higher compliment.

          • Monkey See Monkey Do | Jul 15, 2012 at 11:54 am |

            There have been many well constructed arguements made against Alex Jones and Ron Paul, It’s just a matter of how much one is willing to listen to them. To be honest the disinfo comment section shouldn’t be filled up with people arguing about Alex jones and RP, it reduces the whole intellectual level of the website. 

          • I would love to see a TV show or something starring you two. The antics write themselves.

          • Monkey See Monkey Do | Jul 19, 2012 at 12:14 am |


    • There’re a lot of things that Red State Americans won’t even bat an eye at. Some of them you’ve just mentioned.

      Scandal fatigue, I suppose.

      But grown men having gay sex and theatre out in the woods does still gets attention (at least back East).

      Especially when those men are societal “elites”.

      In that sense, I don’t think that bringing some attention to BG is a big waste of time because it shines a light on the behavior of those who consider themselves our natural leaders.

      The gay sex and theatre isn’t the behavior that needs to be highlighted though. (Well, as long as they’re not doing Pinter I don’t have any objections to the theatre.)

      The hypocrisy and cronyism is the problem that needs to be highlighted.

      I guess it’s sort of like that Clown Guy who used to show up at the football games with a John 3:16 sign. A total non-sequitur, yet it probably did occasionally cause someone to go look up the referenced verse and maybe even won a few converts.

      • not saying it’s wrong
        just a waste of breath

        unless the mainstream propaganda organizations
        run stories about it non-stop for weeks on end
        it doesn’t even appear on Joe Sixpack’s radar

        and even if that was done
        they’d have to tell Joe & Josephine
        how to react to it
        using the propaganda outfit J&J preferred

        too much information is the ultimate psyop
        controlling the info distribution on major psyop channels
        is now the main cattle prod

  9. Rhammond2k | Jul 13, 2012 at 12:29 am |

    Best info on what really goes on at Bohemian Grove is the recent documentary ILLUMINAZI: BILDERBERG WEST BOHEMIAN GROVE by Anthony J Hilder. See: 

  10. Camron Wiltshire | Jul 13, 2012 at 1:43 am |

    Overkill on Bohemian Grove.  If you really want to impress, ask them about Building 7 and then show it to them on an Ipad.  It only takes 7 seconds and to film them witnessing it is to document their hypocrisy and lack of care for life or justice.  Bohemian Grove is sub Bilderberger in terms of importance, it does help to realize that the ‘elite’ meet together in secret regardless of the law (logan act etc) but still I think similar to what you did before, waking people up about building 7 by showing it to them or the commercial featuring 30 year air force veterans, family members and structural engineers is Much more news worthy and effective.

    Imagine what a team of young folks with Ipads and well honed journalistic tactics could achieve at some of these politico conventions.  Surround Newt etc and ask them why they ignore the will of the 9/11 family members, why they Ignore the Architects and Engineers and if they would like to go to jail for their treason for the rest of their lives.

    Those are shots across their bow.  They take guts I understand, but it can be done.  Time to recruit.  Anyone on this board up for it or only arm chair criticism??

  11. rich white men who run the world do not have satanic homosex orgies in the woods. they are not that cool.

  12. Lee Swain | Jul 13, 2012 at 10:57 am |

    I agree with him. BG is a joke were loser wealthy people go do weird shit to power trip. Let’s concentrate on the evil shit they do policy wise rather than the weird shit they do in their spare time.

    • Adam's Shadow | Jul 13, 2012 at 7:27 pm |

      Here here; I had the same reaction with the story about Dick Cheney shooting his friend in the face while hunting.  The media got all up the White House’s ass about “what did they know and when did they know it,” when they should have been asking those questions after 9/11 and leading up to the the Iraq War.

  13. Monkey See Monkey Do | Jul 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm |

    The elites shitty attempt at a ‘burning man’ festival. Hardly worth paying attention too.

  14. shitdabedfred | Jul 16, 2012 at 11:16 am |

    Another massive fail by We Are Change

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