Obama Pays Lip Service to Gun Control While Doing Little to Actually Promote It

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The Christian Science Monitor has a great little article about President Obama’s lackluster attempts to actually control the proliferation of guns in the United States. As a matter of fact, Obama has quietly signed legislature expanding some gun rights during his tenure, including the right to carry firearms on Amtrack trains.

Since becoming president, Obama has been walking a fine line on guns. Even as he calls for better enforcement of existing laws, and mourns the victims of gun violence, he has also expanded gun rights. In 2009, for example, he signed legislation that allows the carrying of concealed weapons in national parks and another bill that allows people to carry guns in their checked bags on Amtrak trains.

Read more at the Christian Science Monitor.

20 Comments on "Obama Pays Lip Service to Gun Control While Doing Little to Actually Promote It"

  1. Mickey Mouse | Jul 27, 2012 at 8:10 pm |

    matt staggs loves to suck that nwo cock…

    • I’m actually a gun owner and regular shooter, and believe very firmly in our second amendment rights. I’m no supporter of Obama – or any other presidential candidate for that matter – and have no love for the United Nations. You’re making a fundamental attributional error here in assuming that by my pointing out Obama’s hypocrisy I am in support in any way of his platform. I don’t believe in your New World Order, though, so I guess if you’re angry about that then I can’t do much about it.

      •  So do you think people like George H. W. Bush and Henry Kissinger are just joking when they themselves use the phrase “New World Order”?

        • In the sense of a shadowy international cabal of individuals conspiring to dissolving national sovereignty in favor of a one-world government through the use of mind-control technologies and other black bag techniques to effect the change that they desire? No, not at all, and I don’t believe that this is what Bush or Kissinger intended. I understand that you believe differently, and I doubt that I could convince you otherwise, nor would I even want to try. It’s good to have a healthy spectrum of beliefs here and elsewhere, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. If you’re right regarding this New World Order, then it’s good we have men and women like yourself watching the ramparts.

          • Frank Person | Jul 28, 2012 at 1:23 am |

             I agree that “they” are not using black bag or mind control, to a point.  I believe I found some of the links here to info regarding the education system.  That information regarding who runs it, how it’s run and how they are using it to monitor each and every student suggests that it may not be mind control in the Manchurian candidate way but in other ways it is mind control.  Some of the questions they ask the students are way far off base regarding education, or schooling. Not sure which term I like better.    Children are not taught to think for themselves, they are taught to be good little worker bees.

            What does NWO mean to you?  I fully believe one of the reasons they don’t control illegal immigration is because once the two countries are so polluted with each other, more so the USA polluted with hispanics.  It will be easier to merge all the countries in/on the continent into one.

            Blur the borders.  Yes I think the power mongers would love nothing less than complete control of a continent.

          • Jesus Borg | Jul 28, 2012 at 10:23 am |

             Do you believe in an oligarchy? I mean NPR uses the term now, in the course of reporting Hedge Fund managers buying sports teams, etc.

            That’s how I look at it and I think ten years ago people thought I was a whacko conspiracy theorist for pointing out that America has a ruling class and that it could be described as either a Plutocracy or an Oligarchy or even  a Plutocratic Oligarchy.

            Alexis de Tocqueville in “Democracy in America”, talked about how aristocracies operate in comparison to Democracies and how they are more strategic and long term in their thinking than democracies. He predicted a coming “manufacturing Aristocracy” in a America that threatened to supplant democracy. I believe he was very prescient.

            Do you think NPR is on the tinfoil hat business now when they use terms like “ruling class” and “oligarchy”?

  2. Anonydude | Jul 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm |

    “Pays lip service”. Wait, are you implying this is a bad thing?

    • Frank Person | Jul 28, 2012 at 1:07 am |

       No kidding.  We need more freedoms and a national right to carry needs to be put in place.  Do it at the federal level and over ride the states that are ridiculously legislated to death considering citizens gun rights.  I live in CA and the laws here are ridiculous!

      I’m not a fan of either candidate for prez right now.  How the people passed over Ron Paul I’ll never understand.

  3. As a Christian website, they should know that one of the core beliefs of Christianity is that forbidding something doesn’t work. Adam and Eve were forbidden by God himself to eat from the tree of knowledge and after a bit of convincing, they did it anyway. This shows that the system of forbidding things doesn’t work. No matter the punishment or authority figure you have to face.

    If guns are banned, you’re creating a black market. Actually, making the already existing black market bigger. This will push people into crime, not away from it.

    Simply forbidding it also shows the lack of motivation to actually change people’s mindsets and help those who are most likely to commit armed crimes to actually do something useful with their life.

    • Interestingly enough, the Christian Science Monitor is an entirely secular publication. The title refers to its origins as a publication of the Christian Science church. It has been an independent publication for quite some time.

      • From their website:

        “No, it’s a real news organization owned by a church – The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Mass., USA.”

        • Jesus Borg | Jul 29, 2012 at 8:28 am |

           Its not really a denomination of Christianity though, like Baptist or Episcopalian. Its more of a New Age offshoot. They are into mind over matter stuff like that. They have “reading rooms” in many cities kind of like free Libraries. I personally think the Christian Science Monitor has a Christian Science feel to it, because I am familiar with them.

          But Its not a mainline Christian denomination.

  4. the gun control issue is complicated in the US
    because the cops are armed
    (unlike China or other countries)
    and the cops kill about 500 to 1000 every year in the US
    far fewer than the gun nuts

    there are millions of uncontrolled guns available in the US
    and they are easy to obtain is you’re so inclined

    the military is well armed
    and easily used against defenseless people
    (though history shows the US military is thus far unbeatable)

    the Bill of Rights
    if not abrogated, is it tatters
    and having a weapon might help preserve some rights longer

    despite the debate
    the right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights

    the carrying of weapons in public
    concealed or open
    by any person, pig or citizen
    should be banned for safety reasons

  5. Sonnenritter | Jul 27, 2012 at 11:08 pm |

    It was the desire of the designers of the US Constitution that the citizenry be armed as well or better than the agents of the state… the elimination of the state’s monopoly on force is the best way to ensure the preservation of civil liberties.

  6. I fully support Obama for round 2… (given no better option, really) and on gun control, which is a subjective, catch-all sort of phrase, my belief is as follows.  I think we need a very certain kind of regulation that the NRA and ALEC simply don’t want us to have… That is an assault weapons ban. I am ok with responsible gun-owners being allowed to carry in more places – they’re going to do this anyway and I’d rather not criminalize it and make outlaws out of them.  However, I see no reason for anyone to shoot hundreds of ANYTHING in less than a minute… least of all fans of movies – our last domestic product.

    • Terrence Amiro | Jul 28, 2012 at 11:49 am |

      You realize automatic “assault weapons” are  almost NEVER used to kill people right?  It’s almost always handguns that are used in criminal shootings.  SEMI-AUTOMATIC handguns.

      Name ONE incident where a legally owned automatic weapon was used to kill people.  ONE.  In none of these massacres (Columbine, Aurora, Virginia Tech, Tucson) were automatic weapons used.  Only semi-automatic weapons with auto-loading devices (MAGAZINES) were used.

      At least try to educate yourself about the crimes and firearms so you don’t sound like an uneducated trollop.

    • Frank Person | Jul 28, 2012 at 12:42 pm |

       FS: What you need to do is study the 2nd amendment in it’s entirety. You know it’s about guns but it seems that is all you know about it.    The 2nd amendment is not so you can hunt with a gun, it’s not so you can use a gun to protect your family.

      See if you can figure it out and come back here and tell us.

  7. Are you insane?  have you seen a copy of the Proposed UN treaty which has just been postponed. NOT cancelled.  Obama’s plan has been to get the UN treaty to ban guns with laying low on the issue otherwise.    This is not figment of imagination.      http://www.peaceloveapplepie.com/untreatyguns/

  8. Jesus Borg | Jul 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |

    Obama has compared himself to Reagan. Reagan was an acter and Corporate spokes model. Obama grew up in Hawaii and was raised by white people  yet somehow picked up the speech patterns of Southern black orators. So I’d say he is a pretty good actor as well. He lied in a town hall style question and answer session about his membership in the CFR.

    There is an Oligarchy with its own interests and agenda which is at odds with the values and interests of population at large. They take people in  and groom them for public office. Clinton was a perfect example of how bright young outsiders are taken in and groomed for public office by the ruling class. Obama is another.

    Bush was a ne’er do well son of a dynastic political family. But they are all insiders, from the Senate to the Supreme court to the Executive, especially the cabinet. Basically people get to the Presidency buy being in line with the interests of the ruling class.

    The fact that, like his forbears, he does one thing and says another in the form of parroting populist values should surprise no one.

    This is Mr. Drone strike that doesn’t want anyone to be able to protest withing 200 feet of secret service. This is Mr. Military Tribunal without due process for American citizens.

  9. RaccoonMan | Jul 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm |

    I was personally worried about my second amendment rights when the guy who was basically promoted  as liberal Superman was elected. Well, at least I’m not disappointed in THAT area of my life.

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