Pharma Moves To Make OxyContin For Kids

For when a bandaid isn’t enough. Via The Daily:

The maker of OxyContin is seeking Food and Drug Administration approval to label the controversial painkiller for use by children as young as 6 in a move that could serve to extend the company’s expiring patent on the lucrative drug.

Purdue Pharma has paid dozens of clinical sites around the country to document what happens when OxyContin, an addictive pharmaceutical widely abused by recreational users, is given to children. The family-owned pharmaceutical company earned an estimated $2.8 billion in revenue last year from sales of the powerful opioid, part of the same drug family as morphine and heroin.


40 Comments on "Pharma Moves To Make OxyContin For Kids"

  1. Investinourftre | Jul 5, 2012 at 10:04 am |

    This stuff is crazy addictive.

  2. mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 10:16 am |

    Big fucking deal. In a society where millions of kids are on synthetic coke (aka “ADHD medication”), giving them painkillers for legitimate pain issues isn’t that irrational of a concept.

    Opiates aren’t physically harmful to the body. The main problem is physical dependence, which leads to a downregulation of your body’s natural endorphins- hence addicts starting to feel like all the color has been sucked out of life once they’ve been using opiates long term. But unlike common legal drugs like alcohol, there’s no cellular damage and the stuff doesn’t kill brain cells.

    People need to stop attributing magical addictive properties to painkillers. They ARE very physically addictive, but beyond the unpleasant withdrawal symptoms, most of the addiction is mental. I’m not interested in painkillers anymore, but I’ve done hardcore opiates for months at a time in the past and then quit on my own without any long term problems. It’s just a matter of having the resolve and willpower to tough out the withdrawal symptoms.  But I can also do that with nicotine, so maybe I’m a rare case.

    • I’d argue that downregulation of body’s natural endorphins is physical damage.

      • mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 12:51 pm |

        Yeah, but all the evidence points to that being reversible. And receptor downregulation happens with the daily use of ALL mood altering drugs, including all the psych drugs currently given to children – so it’s not exactly a unique condition created by opiates. ADHD drugs downregulate dopamine, antidepressants downregulate serotonin, etc.

        It’s possible that synthetic opiates affect the brain in a way that would permanently downregulate opiate receptors, but I don’t think the evidence supports that. Who knows though… it could be true.

        • All true, but I never said physical damage was synonymous with irreversible damage except for extreme cases. Of course many of those extreme cases are when the effects of mental addiction become so strong that they become as important if not more important than the physical effects.

          Given, I’m very much against most of those mood altering drugs(more-so than opioids), because they are bandaids over the underlying issues and commonly cause personality changes over long periods of use that could also arguably be called irreversible damage (or at least irreversible change if damage is too strong a word)(needs moar run-on sentences and parentheticals(although this might qualify as a compound-complex sentence(self reference is fun(okay I’m done now.))))

    • MoralDrift | Jul 5, 2012 at 11:56 am |

      you are the exception. I’m actually the same way with nicotine but i still understand others have a difficult time quitting. I’ve also seen the behavior of pill heads and its pretty sad, not to mention this is something young kids will be introduced to…its unnecessary and dangerous

      • mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm |

        I’d agree with you, except millions of kids are already routinely given synthetic coke and amphetamine derivatives for the non-disease of ADHD. Providing adolescent cancer victims with an effective pain reliever is by far the lesser of the two evils.

        I’m not minimizing the risk of certain drugs, and it’s not as if I don’t understand what it feels like to be addicted. I used to have an EXTREMELY addictive personality. I used to smoke two packs of cigarettes and get piss drunk every single day for a four year period and woke up with the DTs every morning. So I’m aware that there’s definitely the physical dependence component to drug addiction, but from my experience the VAST majority of the issue is psychological. I had trouble going even a second without thinking about cigarettes or alcohol – but once I had a drastic perceptual shift, suddenly I was easily able to quit smoking and drinking and I haven’t been prone to addiction since.

        This is why ayahuasca is known as a miracle addiction cure, even though  it doesn’t do anything to the brain that physically reverses drug dependence – all it does it just puts a person in a self-reflective mindset that allows them to see their destructive, weak behavior from an outside perspective. I achieved the same end result without the aid of a psychedelic, just by thinking deeply about my situation.

        No matter how strong the urge to do a drug, giving in to it is always
        voluntary. Unless the action of putting the pill in your mouth or
        shooting yourself up is all some sort of elaborate involuntary muscle
        spasm, you’re making the choice to take more of the drug.

        • That last paragraph of yours presupposes the primacy and dominance of free will (choice). And is giving into, or resisting, the urge or felt need to use drugs always and wholly a voluntary act of choice? I don’t think so.

          • free will is always there, addiction is a complex issue partly because it weakens said will. So do you blame the person for having weakened will? or blame the drug for weakening it?

          • mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm |

            Like I said – it’s always a choice, as long as the act of physically taking the drug is voluntary. As much as you feel compelled to take the drug to avoid withdrawal symptoms, you’re still making the choice put the substance in your system. So it’s always an issue of willpower, no matter how strong the physical urge is to take the drug.

            It’s understandable why people can’t deal with drug withdrawal, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s technically possible to abstain from the chemical if you have the will to do so.

          • Free will is often an illusion. Recent research in neuroscience shows that much of our “free will” and “choice” is decided at a level of brain activity which our conscious brains are not aware of. The unconscious mind seems to have more control over choice than the mind we employ while awake. Also, according to your line of thinking eating is a choice. Let’s see how long you can choose to go without food or water before your body complains to your brain and you “choose” to feed your belly. Abstaining from drugs may not kill you like abstaining from food and water eventually would, but tell that to your body/brain while it’s experiencing the pain, anxiety and terror of that withdrawal.

    • Gregoryvcollins99 | Jul 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm |

      wow, whole small towns are being ruined from this drug and drugs like it. Yes its from abuse and how easy doctors are willing to hand prescriptions out! GTFO for kids and your giving this lame argument about what it does and how your a RARE case give me a break get a 6 year old addicted to these and you think they just need WILL power fuck off. 

      • mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm |

         So because certain people choose to do opiates every day to get high, people with legitimate pain issues should be unable to choose whether or not they can take these drugs to manage legitimate pain issues?

        Like I said – I have an addictive personality, and I’ve taken opiates for both medical reasons and for recreational purposes. I was able to stop on my own via sheer willpower. It’s not my problem that certain people are too weak to handle having access to chemicals that make them feel good. It always comes down to whether or not you can have the will to force yourself to stop, no matter how bad the withdrawal feels for you. Regardless of the severity of withdrawal, taking more is always voluntary.

      • mole_face | Jul 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm |

        Also – amphetamines and other recreational stimulants are just as physically addictive as opiates. Yet nobody is up in arms about the medical establishment giving millions of adolescents those drugs for “ADHD”.

        And yeah, it is just a matter of will.

        No matter how shitty the withdrawal from a drug makes you feel, taking more is ALWAYS voluntary. Children shouldn’t be held to that same standard – but like I pointed out, nobody complains when kids take synthetic coke and amphetamines for social control purposes. Kids taking opiates for legitimate pain issues is a necessary evil.

        • Tigger The Tom Tom | Jul 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm |

           so we will our childrens mouths with drugs and with that logic its okay to fill them with more? hell as long as they consent!! hell if a 10 year old consents to a cigarette why not give him one eh?

          have you ever taken these drugs yourself personally? instead of reading about them and thinking you know whats they are about??

          no kid should be on these types of drugs including synthetic coke or speed. Come on, use your goddamn brain john henry.

    • > But I can also do that with nicotine, so maybe I’m a rare case.

      I can do that to, but if I go without pot for any significant length of time
      I start jonesing for it; all the while knowing its a mental thing.
      I can smoke cigs for years and then quit for years without a problem.

      Never got into opiates, so I don’t know how my will power would work there.
      But booze, pot, cigs, coffee I have been able to stop at will
      or endure being it without them without too much of a problem. 

  3. Calypso_1 | Jul 5, 2012 at 11:05 am |

    If you had a kid screaming in pain from cancer you’d be on your knees praying for the mercy of whatever drug was available.

    • MoralDrift | Jul 5, 2012 at 11:53 am |

      oh get the fuck outta here they can already prescribe it off label for the rare cases where children need painkillers. Otherwise this is completely disgusting

    • DeepCough | Jul 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm |

      Why not just give the kids weed?

      • weed costs too much to manufacture
        where as CIA poppies
        are harvested and manufactured much more inexpensively
        thanks to the poppy farm subsidy program in Afghanistan

        weed might also cause some unwanted awareness in hosts
        whereas, Oxi will keep hosts quite, muddled and docile
        the parasite’s preferred state for its hosts

        • Also, much as weed is nice and all, it only helps with pain in some ways. As a chronic pain sufferer let me tell you, weed alone doesn’t “cut it.” 

      • Calypso_1 | Jul 5, 2012 at 11:02 pm |

        Sure, that works great for full-thickness burns too. 

    •  Cancer is their biggest profit yet, and all thanks mostly to antibiotics given out like fucking candy:

  4. Just five years ago, I had a dying ex-junkie (terminal liver cancer) beg me to score him some Oxys- as if I could- because his docs wouldn’t give him any painkillers due to their fear he’d relapse into addiction. In the final days of his life? 
    So, five years pass. Now Big Pharma wants to sell Oxys to kids. Funny how campaign contributions change the social landscape.

  5. MoralDrift | Jul 5, 2012 at 12:00 pm |

    Oxy isnt good for anyone…period. If someone really needs pain relief that desperately, just use morphine or heroin..its not like oxy is any less addictive or superior at pain relief its just trademarked. Again i’ll say it one last time to anyone who thinks this is ok, GTFO

    • 3 words: Flintstones Chewable Morphine

    • Oxycodone is superior to Hydrocodone, and it’s certainly better than the shit they bind it with (you know, over the counter NSAIDs that can destroy your liver.) 

      Addictive? Yes. So is morphine. Its pain reduction profile is higher than morphine orally, though morphine is obviously the preferred choice – or dilauded – for pain reduction in a hospital. Oxycodone comes generic, the brand name is just time release. 

      • MoralDrift | Jul 8, 2012 at 7:50 am |

        perhaps, I agree about the poison they add to them though. My big problem with opiates is that A) they are very addictive B) besides pain relief…they are practically useless….at least to me. Id rather be using far more interesting drugs

  6. Nunzio X | Jul 5, 2012 at 1:37 pm |

    Like baby aspirin, only better.

  7. Vincentgiles | Jul 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm |

     Hypnotizing the masses with daytime tv, x-box, illegal drugs, booze and now ‘legalized’ drugs.  God Bless America,  Make em drug addicts while they are young.  Kids are gonna be eating those things just like energy drinks.  I wonder if the current Attorney General in Connecticut will actually try and put the kybosh down on Purdue or take some more hush money like his predecessor. 

  8. Infvocuernos | Jul 5, 2012 at 9:20 pm |

    Because 2.8 billion isn’t enough?!?! Real criminals.  Also, to those who say there are no physical side effects to opiod use, it does cause liver damage.  It is also highly addictive.  I do not discount the overperscription of other drugs to children, but two wrongs do not make a right.  Maybe this is just the newest version of snake oil.  

  9. Damn. Its just impossible to feel; good about taking cheap shots at big pharma like “Childrens Chewable Heroin”…

    …when they keep making my tasteless, vaguely amoral jokes into their new marketing paradigms.

    Now I’m afraid my off the cuff comment about harvesting fat kids as a green fuel source is only a few years away from being tomorrows policy wonk wet dream.

  10. mom, did you take my oxi’s again?

  11. Bruteloop | Jul 6, 2012 at 8:00 am |

    30 comments here. None about the drones.

  12. “Legal” drugs is the worst evil out there.  There’s no need for them, they only address symptoms of an underlying imbalance in a body, and it’s big business for these fuckers so why bother with a ‘cure’.  Cancer research is a big scam.   The ads for endless new drugs are hilarious, “solve your allergies, while you experience a list of deadly side effects such as liver/kidney failure, heart attack etc” haha, no shit, I say death is a cure for any problem.

    Healthy diet is an answer to all health problems, pronto.

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