Tax Atheists Who Don’t Go to Church?

By on July 7, 2012 in News 52

Bryan Fischer thinks that if “Obamacare” can tax people who don’t have health insurance, then atheists should be taxed for not going to church because they are putting their health at risk.

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  • Marklar_Prime

    You can take my no-god when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

    • Wonderingzeb

      amen brother

  • Anarchy Pony

    My favorite part of all this healthcare hullaballoo is Mittens pretending to hate it when it’s based on the plan he passed as Governor of Mass. 

  • Marcy

    Separation of church and state?

    • chinagreenelvis

      Not in the Constitution (or even Bill of Rights), according to people who refuse to acknowledge that the Supreme Court decision in Everson v. Board of Education solidifies the concept.

      • Linsang811

         That drives me nuts. “Not in the constitutions.” It is! Just not in those exact words…. but the meaning is clear and Jefferson made his intentions expressly clear int he congress approve treaty of Tripoli.

  • TYH

    As there is a $2,000 tax for people who fail to buy health insurance, let there be a $500,000 tax on people who fail to carry a fetus to term. 

    We can’t make abortion illegal but we can tax it to the point of being impossible. 

    (Of course I don’t actually believe that but we’ve entered a dangerous, slippery slope. For the court’s precedent to work in anything other than an increasingly nightmarish fashion is based on some misperception that Obama has been elected President-for-Life and there will never be new elections to Congress. Party control of congresses and the presidency come and go.) 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-R-Olson/1248587113 James R. Olson

       TYH By any chance are you six years old? Back when I was six years old no amount of sanctions would prevent a woman who did not want to carry a fetus to term, from doing the most deadly things to herself in an effort to be free of the fetus. Thousands of women died as a result. Perhaps you are unaware that dead people don’t ordinarily pay taxes of any amount.

    • Secretlaboratory

      Since we’re talking about scaring a lot of people with a $2000 tax, how about a credible source on that?

    • Madp4400

      Sorry TYH, perfectly legal, constitutionally protected medical procedures are non-taxable. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FRJD66AT6LQ6CZZ46XJO43A4FM Artor

      My vote is for a $500,000 tax on being an irredeemable fucktard.

  • Andrew

    Motherfucker has a point.

    • DeepCough

      He would, if it weren’t for the Vatican’s rampant clergy pedophilia and this (http://disinfo.com/2012/05/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-from-snake-bite).

    • http://twitter.com/DanielReasor Daniel Reasor

      The only point he has is on top of his head.  While the Constitution in no way protects you from being taxed, it most certainly does protect you and me from the passage of laws establishing a religion.  If anything, the tax exemption that churches get should be repealed.

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        Well, using what passes for logic at the SCOTUS these days, as long as they don’t insist you attend any specific church then it would be entirely Constitutional.

        • DeepCough

          I’m going to the First Church of Satan. They throw better parties.

          • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

            I can’t speak for the parties at the First Church of Satan, but as for Satanists in general, indeed they do.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    While they could certainly do as described based on this most recent Supreme Court ruling, it would simply end as this Obamacare fiasco is going to end for me.

    And that’s with Gunplay.

    And when I say “Gunplay” I only mean that figuratively. I suspect that more than just guns will end up being used.

    The line has to be drawn somewhere. The line where you say, “Infringe any further and I’ll start infringing back.”

    Hopefully those worthless fucking Republicans can get that shit repealed before I have to treat some “revenuers” the way my bootlegging ancestors would have treated them.

    • charlieprimero

      That’s terrorist talk right there.  Visit https://tips.fbi.gov and report yourself right now! 

      A couple of agents with visit to make sure you were just joking, and everything will be okay.  

      If you don’t self-report, and they have to go through the hassle of tracing our MAC address, it will be bad for you.

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        It’ll be bad for someone, I agree.

        I’m pretty careful about making statements that can be perceived as an illegal “threat”.

        There are enough conditionals in my statement above that it doesn’t qualify. The law may very well be repealed before those provisions get enforced, the courts may still invalidate the law somehow, even if the law is in force, I may have insurance and thus there would be no need to attempt to fine me, etc, etc.

        Additionally, perhaps my bootlegger ancestors merely invited revenuers in for tea and insisted they take two lumps, not one? ;)

    • Madp4400

      The repubs can’t repeal sh*t. They wouldn’t have the votes in both houses of congress. So when Mitt tries to peddle that “repeal Obama/Romneycare” shit to the ill-informed masses on the right, he’s f*ckin lying.

  • unusually unusual

    lol

    That is all.

  • Brandenorourke

    well if he wants this atheist to go to church, then lets tax the churches!

    • Elias Char

       You took the words right out of my mouth.

  • Carolyn0519

    Oh yes… go to church or you will be unhealthy.  Organized religion makes your IQ drop…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-R-Olson/1248587113 James R. Olson

    Comment? Sure. Hahahahahahahhhahahahahaha.   ha.
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7L7TC42A7F5GCGGQXPATUCNUGA Mark

    Then why are the unhealthiest American states in the Bible Belt?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/07/healthiest-state-ranking-americas-health_n_1132745.html

    • Madp4400

      Exactly Mark! Have you seen all of the fat asses in the evangie movement? Holly Sh*t! It seems that that’s all the f*ckin people do is eat. It’s like they are trying to fill a void that their god’s, jeeezzzus and books of mythology can’t seem to fill.

  • poponhop

    somebody punches this bum in the face his old brittle bones shatter oops no healthcare for you though

  • thought

    What I love about all of this is how up in arms so many people are getting. “How dare to government tell me what to do!” they shout from the rooftops. Yeah, um, the government tells you what to do all the time. We have thousands of laws on the books that control a myriad amount of our daily behaviors, freedoms, and rights. We have tax rewards and penalties all the time. I just don’t understand why people are so up in arms about this one? If you have healthcare, this has almost no effect on you, and in the long run will actually help you save money by lowering rates for everyone. How is this the line in the sand for so many people? How dare the government tell me to do something I already did because it’s common sense? Seriously, when Mitt did it he was praised, and now the Republicans are screaming because Obama did it. Grow up.

    • http://twitter.com/DanielReasor Daniel Reasor

       Mitt had the good political sense to not be an African American.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      First, let me express my deep dismay and disappointment with your High School Civics teacher . They clearly failed to provide you with salient concepts about our system of government (a democratic republic) and our relationship with it.

      Up until recently, the United States operated under a principle of “limited government”. That is, there were just some things that the government wasn’t allowed to do. Didn’t matter how much they wanted to, how nice it would be if they did, or how expedient it would be if they just went ahead and did something, there were many things that were simply outside the scope of their authority to do (I’m ignoring certain National Security issues for sake of brevity).

      When you hear things like “Democracy  is/ needs to be more than  two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner” you’re running across this concept.

      Over time, (the Federal) government expanded its power using things like the “Interstate Commerce” clause or the “Necessary and Proper” clause. In other cases its power was expanded by Constitutional Amendments. But there were, and still are, areas where they have no recognized authority.

      The problem with the Obamacare package  was that it intruded into this area. There’s no doubt that it intruded into this area (there was a Supreme Court Case) and the Supreme Court decision spun up a justification for supporting the law which wasn’t even a justification used in support of the law when it was being argued for.

      That justification was “It’s just a tax”.

      All your arguments that the law is good for people, is expedient, that the government already tells you what to do,etc don’t mean anything.

      The court has decided that the compulsory section of Obamacare is legal because it’s a tax and the government is allowed to tax.

      My personal belief is that the Obamacare decision is a major step forward in our government’s march toward authoritarianism. By justifying the expansion of government power in this regard as merely a “tax” the Supreme Court has opened up dangerous new avenues for the government to encroach on our individual liberties.

      I think when future Historians look back, they’ll see “Citizens United” and the “NFIB vs Sebelius” decisions as  watersheds in our national decline.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FRJD66AT6LQ6CZZ46XJO43A4FM Artor

        You make some good points, and they illustrate why it would have been far better to have instituted the single-payer plan instead of this insurance company giveaway.

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          Indeed. I was hoping we’d get a single-payer plan or preferably a Medicare buy-in option instead of this mess.

          As I recall, the AMA even preferred the Medicare Buy-In option.

      • Norman

         And let me express my deep dismay with your judicial process and constitutional law professors. You have misinterpreted the Court’s decision and legal reasoning. Of course, I only intend to offend if you are a law student or lawyer.
        Citizens should not need specialized higher education to properly understand cases that have a direct impact on their lives. FindLaw and the Volokh Conspiracy only go so far.

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          Nope, not a lawyer or a law student.

          So, how did I misinterpret the Court’s decision in this matter? My understanding was that the individual mandate was upheld as it could be considered a “tax”.

          That’s not the case?

    • Apathesis

       I was just as pissed when Mitt Romney passed his health care bill.  Why should I pay a fine at the end of each year if I NEVER go to the doctor?

      • Senleewashington

         Well, since you never go to the doctor, I guess someone has to pay the guys who dig your undoubtedly early grave.

  • Noah Way

    Time to eliminate the tax free status of religious institutions.

  • Antediluviancurrent

    Sounds almost exactly like the jizya from back in the caliphate days… Nice medieval approach there.

  • http://twitter.com/libravirtus Rafa Martinelli

    Funny how the article starts with the phrase “Bryan Fischer thinks” written in red, as if it were negative (like red numbers ;) ) making the statement actually mean “Bryan Fischer does not think”.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Whatever ye’s all do, don’t tell this guy that typically non-christian Asian Americans live on average nearly 20 years longer than evangelical-heavy African Americans.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/11/AR2006091101297_2.html

    “As previous studies have shown, Asians have by far the longest life expectancy — 87.4 years for women and 82.1 for men. Black urban men have the shortest (66.7), followed by Southern rural black men, at 67.7. Indian men in the West are next, at 69.4. ”

    It’ll be great fun to see Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism or Shintoism become the established faith of the U.S. as the result of a Supreme Court case brought by some cracker psuedo-Christian.

    • Calypso_1

      The Lord is keeping them on this earth longer because he is merciful and wants to give then more opportunities to repent from their heathen ways and not spend eternity in hell.

      • Liam_McGonagle

        Either that or they eat an occassional vegetable.  Other than Freedom Fries, that is.

  • Killjak

    I wonder why there are all these problems with Obamacare.. I’m from Europe and here everybody pays taxes for the public hospitals and everyone has the right to be cured, the cost is irrelevant. Life is more important than money. The community agrees that EVERY citizen has the same right to be healed, not only the rich ones. Is so difficult for american people to accept this? PS: old man in this video is a total idiot as all christian-fanatics… let’s tax believers for being morons.

  • luca dp

    this man is a moron..

  • http://www.facebook.com/vincentstuartjanolof.hammarstedt Vincent Stuart Jan-Olof Hammar

     In Sweden: We used to penalize people for not going to church.

    Trust me: It was not brilliant, not even a little bit. We’re incredibly ashamed over how we let it go on for so long.

  • Wonderingzeb

    churches should damn well pay taxes Jesus said give to caesar what is caesars. i hate Jesus freaks

  • http://www.facebook.com/geoff.f.taylor Geoff Taylor

    if he wants to live in a nation like this why doesnt he move to iran the fucked up bigot

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666684651 Matthew Paul Heckman

    my whole family except me believe in god and they even think going to church is a waste of time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/davidericlawton David Eric Lawton

    What most people are missing in this video is, this guy is talking about a totlitarian theocracy. “Big brother says go to church or be penalized.”

  • Atheist

    Fucking idiot…