Tax Atheists Who Don’t Go to Church?

Bryan Fischer thinks that if “Obamacare” can tax people who don’t have health insurance, then atheists should be taxed for not going to church because they are putting their health at risk.

52 Comments on "Tax Atheists Who Don’t Go to Church?"

  1. Marklar_Prime | Jul 7, 2012 at 2:29 pm |

    You can take my no-god when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

  2. Anarchy Pony | Jul 7, 2012 at 2:39 pm |

    My favorite part of all this healthcare hullaballoo is Mittens pretending to hate it when it’s based on the plan he passed as Governor of Mass. 

  3. Separation of church and state?

    • chinagreenelvis | Jul 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm |

      Not in the Constitution (or even Bill of Rights), according to people who refuse to acknowledge that the Supreme Court decision in Everson v. Board of Education solidifies the concept.

      • Linsang811 | Jul 8, 2012 at 5:42 pm |

         That drives me nuts. “Not in the constitutions.” It is! Just not in those exact words…. but the meaning is clear and Jefferson made his intentions expressly clear int he congress approve treaty of Tripoli.

  4. As there is a $2,000 tax for people who fail to buy health insurance, let there be a $500,000 tax on people who fail to carry a fetus to term. 

    We can’t make abortion illegal but we can tax it to the point of being impossible. 

    (Of course I don’t actually believe that but we’ve entered a dangerous, slippery slope. For the court’s precedent to work in anything other than an increasingly nightmarish fashion is based on some misperception that Obama has been elected President-for-Life and there will never be new elections to Congress. Party control of congresses and the presidency come and go.) 

    •  TYH By any chance are you six years old? Back when I was six years old no amount of sanctions would prevent a woman who did not want to carry a fetus to term, from doing the most deadly things to herself in an effort to be free of the fetus. Thousands of women died as a result. Perhaps you are unaware that dead people don’t ordinarily pay taxes of any amount.

    • Secretlaboratory | Jul 7, 2012 at 10:38 pm |

      Since we’re talking about scaring a lot of people with a $2000 tax, how about a credible source on that?

    • Sorry TYH, perfectly legal, constitutionally protected medical procedures are non-taxable. 

    • My vote is for a $500,000 tax on being an irredeemable fucktard.

  5. Motherfucker has a point.

  6. While they could certainly do as described based on this most recent Supreme Court ruling, it would simply end as this Obamacare fiasco is going to end for me.

    And that’s with Gunplay.

    And when I say “Gunplay” I only mean that figuratively. I suspect that more than just guns will end up being used.

    The line has to be drawn somewhere. The line where you say, “Infringe any further and I’ll start infringing back.”

    Hopefully those worthless fucking Republicans can get that shit repealed before I have to treat some “revenuers” the way my bootlegging ancestors would have treated them.

    • charlieprimero | Jul 7, 2012 at 5:56 pm |

      That’s terrorist talk right there.  Visit and report yourself right now! 

      A couple of agents with visit to make sure you were just joking, and everything will be okay.  

      If you don’t self-report, and they have to go through the hassle of tracing our MAC address, it will be bad for you.

      • It’ll be bad for someone, I agree.

        I’m pretty careful about making statements that can be perceived as an illegal “threat”.

        There are enough conditionals in my statement above that it doesn’t qualify. The law may very well be repealed before those provisions get enforced, the courts may still invalidate the law somehow, even if the law is in force, I may have insurance and thus there would be no need to attempt to fine me, etc, etc.

        Additionally, perhaps my bootlegger ancestors merely invited revenuers in for tea and insisted they take two lumps, not one? 😉

    • The repubs can’t repeal sh*t. They wouldn’t have the votes in both houses of congress. So when Mitt tries to peddle that “repeal Obama/Romneycare” shit to the ill-informed masses on the right, he’s f*ckin lying.

  7. unusually unusual | Jul 7, 2012 at 5:43 pm |


    That is all.

  8. Brandenorourke | Jul 7, 2012 at 9:08 pm |

    well if he wants this atheist to go to church, then lets tax the churches!

  9. Carolyn0519 | Jul 7, 2012 at 9:25 pm |

    Oh yes… go to church or you will be unhealthy.  Organized religion makes your IQ drop…

  10. Comment? Sure. Hahahahahahahhhahahahahaha.   ha.

    • Exactly Mark! Have you seen all of the fat asses in the evangie movement? Holly Sh*t! It seems that that’s all the f*ckin people do is eat. It’s like they are trying to fill a void that their god’s, jeeezzzus and books of mythology can’t seem to fill.

  11. somebody punches this bum in the face his old brittle bones shatter oops no healthcare for you though

  12. What I love about all of this is how up in arms so many people are getting. “How dare to government tell me what to do!” they shout from the rooftops. Yeah, um, the government tells you what to do all the time. We have thousands of laws on the books that control a myriad amount of our daily behaviors, freedoms, and rights. We have tax rewards and penalties all the time. I just don’t understand why people are so up in arms about this one? If you have healthcare, this has almost no effect on you, and in the long run will actually help you save money by lowering rates for everyone. How is this the line in the sand for so many people? How dare the government tell me to do something I already did because it’s common sense? Seriously, when Mitt did it he was praised, and now the Republicans are screaming because Obama did it. Grow up.

    •  Mitt had the good political sense to not be an African American.

    • First, let me express my deep dismay and disappointment with your High School Civics teacher . They clearly failed to provide you with salient concepts about our system of government (a democratic republic) and our relationship with it.

      Up until recently, the United States operated under a principle of “limited government”. That is, there were just some things that the government wasn’t allowed to do. Didn’t matter how much they wanted to, how nice it would be if they did, or how expedient it would be if they just went ahead and did something, there were many things that were simply outside the scope of their authority to do (I’m ignoring certain National Security issues for sake of brevity).

      When you hear things like “Democracy  is/ needs to be more than  two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner” you’re running across this concept.

      Over time, (the Federal) government expanded its power using things like the “Interstate Commerce” clause or the “Necessary and Proper” clause. In other cases its power was expanded by Constitutional Amendments. But there were, and still are, areas where they have no recognized authority.

      The problem with the Obamacare package  was that it intruded into this area. There’s no doubt that it intruded into this area (there was a Supreme Court Case) and the Supreme Court decision spun up a justification for supporting the law which wasn’t even a justification used in support of the law when it was being argued for.

      That justification was “It’s just a tax”.

      All your arguments that the law is good for people, is expedient, that the government already tells you what to do,etc don’t mean anything.

      The court has decided that the compulsory section of Obamacare is legal because it’s a tax and the government is allowed to tax.

      My personal belief is that the Obamacare decision is a major step forward in our government’s march toward authoritarianism. By justifying the expansion of government power in this regard as merely a “tax” the Supreme Court has opened up dangerous new avenues for the government to encroach on our individual liberties.

      I think when future Historians look back, they’ll see “Citizens United” and the “NFIB vs Sebelius” decisions as  watersheds in our national decline.

      • You make some good points, and they illustrate why it would have been far better to have instituted the single-payer plan instead of this insurance company giveaway.

        • Indeed. I was hoping we’d get a single-payer plan or preferably a Medicare buy-in option instead of this mess.

          As I recall, the AMA even preferred the Medicare Buy-In option.

      •  And let me express my deep dismay with your judicial process and constitutional law professors. You have misinterpreted the Court’s decision and legal reasoning. Of course, I only intend to offend if you are a law student or lawyer.
        Citizens should not need specialized higher education to properly understand cases that have a direct impact on their lives. FindLaw and the Volokh Conspiracy only go so far.

        • Nope, not a lawyer or a law student.

          So, how did I misinterpret the Court’s decision in this matter? My understanding was that the individual mandate was upheld as it could be considered a “tax”.

          That’s not the case?

    • Apathesis | Jul 8, 2012 at 5:22 pm |

       I was just as pissed when Mitt Romney passed his health care bill.  Why should I pay a fine at the end of each year if I NEVER go to the doctor?

      • Senleewashington | Jul 8, 2012 at 8:01 pm |

         Well, since you never go to the doctor, I guess someone has to pay the guys who dig your undoubtedly early grave.

  13. Noah Way | Jul 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm |

    Time to eliminate the tax free status of religious institutions.

  14. Antediluviancurrent | Jul 8, 2012 at 3:43 pm |

    Sounds almost exactly like the jizya from back in the caliphate days… Nice medieval approach there.

  15. Funny how the article starts with the phrase “Bryan Fischer thinks” written in red, as if it were negative (like red numbers ;)) making the statement actually mean “Bryan Fischer does not think”.

  16. Liam_McGonagle | Jul 9, 2012 at 11:28 am |

    Whatever ye’s all do, don’t tell this guy that typically non-christian Asian Americans live on average nearly 20 years longer than evangelical-heavy African Americans.

    “As previous studies have shown, Asians have by far the longest life expectancy — 87.4 years for women and 82.1 for men. Black urban men have the shortest (66.7), followed by Southern rural black men, at 67.7. Indian men in the West are next, at 69.4. ”

    It’ll be great fun to see Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism or Shintoism become the established faith of the U.S. as the result of a Supreme Court case brought by some cracker psuedo-Christian.

    • Calypso_1 | Jul 9, 2012 at 1:24 pm |

      The Lord is keeping them on this earth longer because he is merciful and wants to give then more opportunities to repent from their heathen ways and not spend eternity in hell.

      • Liam_McGonagle | Jul 9, 2012 at 1:31 pm |

        Either that or they eat an occassional vegetable.  Other than Freedom Fries, that is.

  17. I wonder why there are all these problems with Obamacare.. I’m from Europe and here everybody pays taxes for the public hospitals and everyone has the right to be cured, the cost is irrelevant. Life is more important than money. The community agrees that EVERY citizen has the same right to be healed, not only the rich ones. Is so difficult for american people to accept this? PS: old man in this video is a total idiot as all christian-fanatics… let’s tax believers for being morons.

  18. this man is a moron..

  19.  In Sweden: We used to penalize people for not going to church.

    Trust me: It was not brilliant, not even a little bit. We’re incredibly ashamed over how we let it go on for so long.

  20. Wonderingzeb | Sep 10, 2012 at 11:08 am |

    churches should damn well pay taxes Jesus said give to caesar what is caesars. i hate Jesus freaks

  21. if he wants to live in a nation like this why doesnt he move to iran the fucked up bigot

  22. my whole family except me believe in god and they even think going to church is a waste of time.

  23. What most people are missing in this video is, this guy is talking about a totlitarian theocracy. “Big brother says go to church or be penalized.”

  24. Fucking idiot…

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