Why Most Mass Murderers Are Privileged White Men

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Hugo Schwyzer writes at Role / Reboot:

Not every mass murder in recent years has been committed by a middle-class white guy. But as Jamie Utt pointed out in the hours after the Colorado theater massacre, in those rare instances where a man of color is responsible for a shooting spree (as in the 2007 Virginia Tech killings or the 2009 Fort Hood rampage), the popular reaction is to search for connections between the race or religion of the murderer and his act. After Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people in Blacksburg, media attention focused on the likelihood that a Korean culture unwilling to acknowledge mental illness helped drive the young man to commit the worst mass murder in U.S. history. After Maj. Nidal Hasan carried out the Fort Hood shootings, his Muslim faith became all the public needed to know about his motive.

It seems likely that Islamic extremism did lead Hasan to kill; it’s possible that Cho’s cultural background did mean that his psychological problems were particularly likely to be ignored. Ethnicity, faith, and social class are key parts of the modern human identity; they are always part of the explanation for why we think the way we think and act the way we act. The difference, as Chauncey DeVega made clear on Saturday, is that when white men commit mass murder we don’t hear how their skin color, their maleness, or their social class were contributing factors to their acts. As Peggy McIntosh famously wrote in her White Privilege Checklist, we see whites as individuals whose moral state reflects their individual will. In other words, white men kill simply because they are “sick” or “evil.” When men of color murder, it is because they are both those things and because of factors uniquely attributable to their race.

Perhaps the greatest asset that unearned privilege conveys is the sense that public spaces “belong” to you. If you are—like James Holmes last week, or Charles Whitman, who killed 16 people on the University of Texas, Austin campus in 1966—an American-born, college-educated white man from a prosperous family, you don’t have a sense that any place worth being is off-limits to the likes of you. White men from upper middle-class backgrounds expect to be both welcomed and heard wherever they go. When that sense of entitlement gets frustrated, as it can for a host of complex psychological reasons, it is those same hyper-privileged men who are the most likely to react with violent, rage-filled indignation. For white male murderers from “nice” families, the fact that they chose public spaces like schools, university campuses, or movie theaters as their targets suggests that they saw these places as legitimately theirs.

The vast majority of white men from comfortable backgrounds don’t commit mass murder, of course. Our entitlement doesn’t manifest in the sense that public spaces are ours to terrorize, but it does show up in the confidence with which we move in those spaces. The certainty of belonging is at the core of our privilege.

When I went off to college at Berkeley, I felt as if I were following in the footsteps of my ancestors. I literally was; my maternal great-grandfathers had both graduated from Cal in the 19th century.  I rushed the same fraternity to which my grandfather had belonged in the 1920s. Though I struggled with adolescent anxieties, I never doubted that I belonged on that campus.

It was at Berkeley, however, that I learned about white male privilege for the first time. I saw how my sense of belonging served as an invaluable crutch in times of personal crisis. And by witnessing the experiences of roommates and friends from less advantaged backgrounds, I learned that the confidence I took for granted was given only to a few. My friends who were first-generation students did just as well in the classroom, but were often more tentative about navigating their way around institutional obstacles. My roommate Oscar—the son of farm workers from the Central Valley—once, with great effort and embarrassment, asked me to go with him to see an administrator. “I need your white boy mojo,” he said with a pained grin, caught between jest and anger.

That “white boy mojo” can still open all sorts of doors: to boardrooms, to judge’s chambers, to country club memberships. It’s not that those institutions are still overtly racist (though a few come close). It’s not that white men are guaranteed preferential treatment in every setting. It’s that white men are raised to expect to be welcomed wherever they go. When they find that that automatic welcome isn’t forthcoming, they tend to be indignant. When angry middle-class whites gather together in political groups to “take back our country,” what they want to grab back are the privileges they sense they’ve lost.

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97 Comments on "Why Most Mass Murderers Are Privileged White Men"

  1. TennesseeCyberian | Aug 20, 2012 at 9:04 pm |

    It’s pretty bad when even Wikipedia knows more than a publication’s fact-checking team:


    Also, see this:


    If you’re looking for a racial scapegoat, you should spread the love a little wider, because white boys are not even the best shots.

    • mannyfurious | Aug 21, 2012 at 11:58 am |

      Hate to break it to you, but most of the U.S. shooters on those lists are/were white men. And that’s that they obviously weren’t comprehensive lists, neither mentioning Klebold or Harris or Matthew Murray, or, as Buzz already pointed out, most of presidents….

      • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 21, 2012 at 10:12 pm |

        Whites are the majority of the U.S. population, and their representation in mass shootings doesn’t exceed their proportions.  They do exceed the body count and mentions in the media (though not worldwide.)

        Also, the Wikipedia article clearly states that school shootings are listed in a different category.

        Care to try again? 

        • mannyfurious | Aug 22, 2012 at 3:29 pm |

          No, because nothing I say will stop you from pulling bullshit “facts” from the deepest, farthest, darkest, dankest reaches of your rectum. 

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 22, 2012 at 4:13 pm |

            It is difficult to dispute facts when all you have are your cherished beliefs and cheap insults. So no problem. You don’t have to think any more.

          • mannyfurious | Aug 22, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

            Okay, I’ll bite–we live in a country where about 60-percent of the population is white.  Where are you getting your info that only 60-percent of mass murderers in this country are white?

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 22, 2012 at 9:38 pm |

            My mistake.  I was thinking of this FBI document when talking about proportions:

            “The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the
            overall U.S. population.”


            See also this:


            or this:


            The only comprehensive list of mass murderers that I am aware of is on Wikipedia, albeit broken up into different categories.  If you were not able to locate the abundant non-white mass murderers on that list, this list (compiled by Jim Goad) is a good start:

            “Omar Thornton,” “Clifton McCree,” “Nathan Dunlap,” “Stephon Walter,” “James Edward Pough,” “DaRoyce Mosley,” “Arthur Wise,” “Romeo Pinkerton,” “Darnell Hartsfield,” “Charles Lee Thornton,” “Roland James Smith,” “Colin Ferguson,” “Adrian Burks,” “Gevante Anderson,” “Mark Essex,” “William Unek,” “Banda Khumalo,” “Alfred Ogwang,” “Lazaro Obwara,” “Ben Jebir,” “Bulelani Vukwana,” “Brian Nichols,” “Roderick Shonte Dantzler,” “Wichita Massacre,” and “Beltway Sniper Attacks.”

            Also “Nidal Malik Hasan,” “Abbas al-Baqir Abbas,” “Mohammed Merah,” “Saeed Qashash,” “Abdul Salaam Sadek Hassouneh,” “Ahmed Jassim Ibrahim,” “Mohammed Farhat,” “Eden Natan-Zada,” “Mohammed Zaman,” “Baruch Goldstein,” “Delgado Morales,” “Campo Elias,” “Ferreira de Franca,” “Juan de Jesus Lozano Velasquez,” “Abbas Khan,” “Jalal Osman Khoja,” “Abdul Emir Khalaf Sabhan,” “Grgorio Caceres,” “Arnoldo Malagon Gonzalez,” “Arsenio Formentera,” and “Florentino Basobas.”

            Then “Wan Yu Ciang,” “Liu Aibing,” “Pusok Anak Ngaik,” “Kalinga Boli,” “Leung Ying,” “Kim Won-jo,” “Lee Wei,” “Ahmed Gul,” “Wellington Menezes de Oliveira,” “Bai Ningyang,” “Matti Juhani Saari,” “Wu Huanming,” “Mutsuo Toi,” “Tian Mingjian,” “Harphul Singh,” “Ramesh Sharma,” “Hu Wenhai,” “Liu Haiwang,” “Shi Yuejun,” “Duong Van Mon,” Basudev Thapa,” “Qiu Xinghua,” “Gang Lu,” “Seung-Hui Cho,” “Chai Vang,” and “Woo Bum-kon.”

          • mannyfurious | Aug 22, 2012 at 11:48 pm |

            The FBI doesn’t even bother to cite its own sources and in fact makes only a broad statement that not all serial killers are white.

            Did you even read the book you cited? It only points out that around 20-percent of serial killers are black. Therefore, blacks are proportionally represented but it is vague on what the exact percentage of white mass murderers is because Hispanic and Asian serial killings are under-reported.

            In short, none of your citations prove anything, least of all your wikipedia link. I’m talking about representations in this country alone. I’m not talking about globally. It’s a stupid argument to say that there are a lot of non-white serial killers globally, because, obviously, there a shit load of non-white people globally. White people are not the majority globablly, but they are in this country, and the number of white serial killers in this country is not proportional their population.


            Those are just a handful of websites I found (all of which document their references quite thoroughly) that support the thesis that most serial killers are white. And not only are they white, they are white males.

            The general number give is that between 70-80 percent of all mass murderers in the U.S. are white males. Now, that is out of proportion, considering that only around 60-percent of people in this country are white. Furthermore, when we take into consideration that only about 28-percent of the population are white males, and that between 70-80 percent of all mass murderers are WHITE MALES, then we see, quite obviously and indisputably, that white males are mass murdering far out of proportion to their population in this country.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:20 am |

            First off, males commit more crimes, particularly violent crimes, than females–overwhelmingly so–whether their box is checked black, white, yellow, brown, or red. So when you say “white males,” commit more crimes, you also mean black, yellow, brown, and red males. 

            Crime is a male pastime.  A sexist statistic, I know, but them’s the breaks.

            Secondly, nothing in any of the four links you cite contradicts anything I
            said (once I corrected myself.)

            The Psychology Today article says serial killers are “typically white males,” and Naked Law says that “the average serial killer is a white male.”  The typical, or average person in the U.S. is white, so yeah, that’s to be expected.  The typical killer is male across all races.  On to the specifics.

            The Death Reverence “Mass  Killers” article cites a 1994 publication (Fox and Levin) which claims that over 70% of workplace killers are white.  Well, according to the CIA World Fact Book, around 83% of Americans were white in that year.  This is largely because so-called “white Hispanics” were then labeled “white.”

            The second Death Reference article, “Serial Killers,” cites Fox and Levin in 2001 claiming that 72% of serial killers were white, and 22% were black.  In 2001, whites were 75.1% and blacks 12.5% of the population. (69.1%, excluding “white Hispanics.”)


            Your citations have added nothing new to what I said, besides ridiculous misspellings (“globablly”?) and mild aggro, and to bolster my arguments (after I corrected myself.)

            As for the global statistics, I cited them as evidence that mass murder is not a “white” thing so much as a human thing, or as you point out, a human male thing.  As is violence in general.

            Care to try again.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:36 am |

            And again, are there any studies showing whites to be responsible for a disproportionate amount of mass murders per capita?

            Honest question.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:45 am |

            More of your imprecise stats (not to rub it in or anything):

            You said, “It only points out that around 20-percent of serial killers are black. Therefore, blacks are proportionally represented…”

            Blacks are about 12.6% of the population, so how is that proportionate?

            “only around 60-percent of people in this country are white…”

            That is 63.7% today, to be exact.

            “The general number give is that between 70-80 percent of all mass murderers in the U.S. are white males.”

            Where is that number “give”?

          • mannyfurious | Aug 23, 2012 at 11:04 am |

            The fact that you spend so much time focusing on my spelling errors says it all. I’m sorry I don’t proofread spurious posts on online message boards. If that makes me a loser, then oh well. I was hoping to earn such a reputation through more more ignominious means. Also, I apologize for rounding my numbers. I will makes sure I self-flagellate myself two extra times tonight to atone….

            Anyhow, if you had bothered to read any of the articles, they all give the percentage of white serial killers to be in the mid 70s. And all refer to studies, which are referenced at the end of the articles.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 11:24 am |

            i find it quite hilarious that the village idiot of E.TN corrected your spelling, and yet only a few weeks ago told me – the majority of my posts were spent correcting grammar and errors in orthography.

            Anyway, i wouldn’t take it personally- after all white supremacy is unjustifiable morally and intellectually.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm |

            I have never advocated white supremecy, and I accused you of having horrible grammar, not correcting it.  You also have atrocious reading comprehension, if that makes you feel better.

            Who is the idiot again?

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm |

            actually you did accuse me of spending all my time being a snarky grammar nerd. and you have attempted to intellectualise white supremacy several times. but don’t worry, i’m sure no one’s paying any attention.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:08 pm |

            That should be “intellectualize,” honey.

            Him careless.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm |

            cambridge standard spelling;)

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 2:35 pm |

            love the way you went back and deleted your old sentence-replacing AND italicising it with this new charge.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm |

            oh by the way, absolutely LOVE the avatar. where can i get one? stormfront listserv?

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm |

            What I said was this, in regard to your prolific comment history:

            “[I]f you were to strike every snide, insulting, self-righteous, & grammatically atrocious comment from those 3,669, where would the tally stand today?”

            Read more carefully, sweetie.

            And I challenge you to quote me at any point advocating white supremacy.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:22 pm |

            you re-edited it. and your entire comment history speaks for itself. ‘racist love and racist hate.’-frank chin.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm |

            My avatar is the Tennessee state flag.

            Keep trying, little lady.  You’re doing so good.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm |

            if i was worried about gender binaries i might be offended, but i’m not.

            oh and the TN flag isn’t a vexillogical representation of confederate history? waiting with baited breath for this one.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:31 pm |

            The TN flag does not have a Confederate history.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 pm |

            it bares no passing resemblance to the stars and bars?

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm |

            No, the symbology is quite different and is primarily geographical and comes from a post-civil war national guard unit.
            The origin of the ‘stars and bars’ is debated, but I have researched it thoroughly and feel quite strongly that its origins lie in the cross of Burgundy which flew over much of the pre-U.S. Spanish South. On an interesting historical side note one should consider the origins of the idea of the Confederacy in Spain – the Carlists (who used that flag) and the connection between the hacienda & plantation systems.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm |

            that is interesting! so i will own that mischaracterisation of it then.

          • mannyfurious | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:36 pm |

            That’s funny. I don’t take it personally. But I do wonder why I often waste any modicum of time trying to have a dialogue with some people….

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm |

            You shouldn’t take it personally, and you only waste time when you ignore facts in favor of ideology.

            Be open-minded, man.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm |

            Wow.  Since we’ve overloaded the thread, I’ll quote your last comments here:

            “you re-edited it.”

            Then why doesn’t Disqus show an edit on that comment?


            “Colored minorities in white reality are stereotypes.”

            That is a stereotype of whites, genius.

            “Each racial stereotype comes in two models, the acceptable model and the unacceptable model…The unacceptable model is unacceptable because he cannot be controlled by whites.”

            The only control I have ever tried to exert over you is to lure you into exposing your false assumptions, which you gladly oblige–including the fact that you are willing to lie and sidestep facts in order to feel right–to flex your sense of superiority or supremacy.

            You also claimed, like the lying leftist you prove yourself to be time and time again:

            “cambridge standard spelling;) ‘intellectualise'”

            Wrong again.  Care to admit that now?


          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm |

            lol did you READ the entry for the dictionary page you linked? (uk: usually intellectualise)

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:05 pm |

            ‘lying leftist’ -ohh you got me! i’m just a queer coloured leftist liar! why don’t you feminise me some more? let’s hear it! finally you own it!

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm |

            and that was frank lee chin, not my quote- and genius, every part of it is correct.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm |

            AND you DID edit it- both in content and italicisation.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm |

            You are right about “intellectualise” being the UK spelling.  My mistake.

            Now, do you care to admit that you misquoted me in regards to your atrocious grammar, and falsely accused me of editing that comment and then lying about it?

            And how is calling you out on being a lying leftist feminizing you?  Are you suggesting that women are prone to lying?

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm |

            calling me “sweetie,” “honey” “girl.”

            and i didn’t lie- you changed it.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm |

            If I changed it, why doesn’t Disqus show an edit?


            Do I have some way of moderating Disqus?

            That you can’t just admit a simple mistake is typical of bigots, but really, I never would have imagined you would be this obtuse.  Or retarded.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm |

            You’re just a magical creature TN- i do not recall it being italicised at first post, but again you did feminise me, why not own that? or how about the gem about being queer and ‘asian’- that i can only be a biochem major or an interior designer? short memory.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:31 pm |

            Disqus does not always indicate a post was edited.  However, I was witness to the posts. 
            And they have indeed changed.

            This is getting rather trite.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:34 pm |

            This is what I said, in response to accusations of white “cis male” privilege:

            “I suppose your “queer and eurasian” privilege is negligible unless it is the subject of a diversity training seminar, a doctoral candidacy, or a top spot on MSNBC. Or if one ignores “queer Eurasian” over-representation in interior design and the sciences (respectively.)”

            It was a half-joke–but only half.

            As for “feminising,” my gay and female friends have often called me “sweetie” and “honey,” but when I say “little lady,” what I mean is “bitch.”

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:35 pm |

            i’m neither ‘gay’ nor your friend.

            nor am i in the sciences or interior design.

            and i find it very interesting that a white het dude, thinks he can take jabs at my sexuality and racial identity in the name of what? reverse identity politics?

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm |

            In the name of good fun.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 6:53 pm |

            ‘good ole boy,’ aren’t you.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 6:56 pm |

             Makin’ my waaaay, any way I know how…

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm |

            the supremacist way. yee haw.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 7:26 pm |

            Let me explain something to you, Jin. I’ve got nothing against any race, culture, or creed as a group. Blacks and whites, Christians and pagans, gays and breeders, fat cats and paupers, lions and lambs–they are just fine with me.

            I am not a “white supremacist.” Genetics have proved that–in the aggregate–blacks are faster and Asians are smarter, and individual outliers in any group make it unwise to approach any individual as anything other than an individual.

            I am not a “fag-basher.” The only way someone’s genitals or sexual hobbies would irk me is if they were put in my face, which rarely happens.

            The only thing that irks me is self-righteous, knee-jerk condemnation directed at me, a Southern white male brought up in a church. It is fashionable to smear us as “fascists” who watch “Faux News” and clean our guns in white robes. It’s a stereotype which, though well earned, does not describe all of us.

            You seem to despise me on principle, because of the color of my skin and my sexual preference, based on some historical grievance in which I had no part, or some hierarchy of global power in which I have no place or stake.

            In short: stop talking shit about Southern white Christian hetero males who work for a living. Learn to be tolerant, open-minded, and sympathetic to those different from you, and I guarantee that nearly all of the so-called “racists,” “homophobes,” “nationalists,” “theocrats,” and “oppressors” that you seem to see everywhere will melt away with a Zen-like shift of your perception.

            Or just keep on hating. I love a good debate, so long as the terms are fair and facts are the weapons of choice. When that fails, I’m more than happy to just trade childish insults with you.

            Until next time, good day to you.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 8:04 pm |

            you needn’t justify yourself to me. you are just another anon with a cute little one-liner about white identity. don’t try to obfuscate it- EMBRACE it.


          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 8:26 pm |

            and i love that you never owned your re-edit, but i expected NOTHING less;)

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm |

            Are you fucking serious? If you are talking about the italics, I may have added it way back then, but I certainly haven’t touched (or thought about it) since then. As for editing the content, see this:


            And since you insist on being a snide bitch, I’ll see you in the cyber-ring. Maybe you will be able to debate with facts instead of ad hominem attacks by then.

            Just kidding. Antifa have never needed the petty justification of facts.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 9:21 pm |

            oh i edited my posts, and of course re-edited back to the original state within 20 minutes. i just never pretended not to;) liar liar racist pants on fire.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 10:54 pm |

            Why do I get the feeling that I’m being taunted by a high schooler? I didn’t change the goddamn post. Jeez.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm |

            a few people, including a third party with no vested interest, disagree. so i apologise for not taking your word for it. i thought you’d of all people would appreciate my indelicate snark- after all you did say that’s what i do.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 24, 2012 at 1:23 am |

            Whoa! The jingle is fine. But this editing thing… Now that’s just silly.

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 24, 2012 at 8:39 am |

            decidedly i disagree.

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm |

            So let me get this straight. I accused you of being a “grammar nerd,” overly concerned with dotting your i’s and crossing your t’s? Then I went back on the sly and edited the post to say that you actually have terrible grammar?

            Are you on drugs? Maybe you don’t sleep well at night.

            Maybe you’d rather divert attention from your intellectual shortcomings.

            I’m not even sure what I was supposed to have changed at this point, because I’ve always said you type like a 2nd grader.

            (By the way, your last comment should have read: “Decidedly, I disagree.” First letters in sentences are capitalized, as well as first person singular pronouns, and always put a comma after your introductory adverbial element. Unless you don’t mind looking simple. And lazy.)

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 24, 2012 at 6:38 pm |

            how’s the book on zimmerman coming?

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 27, 2012 at 7:58 pm |

            Working title:

            “George Zimmerman: When ‘White Hispanics’ Go Loco

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 27, 2012 at 8:01 pm |

            Or maybe:

            “Grass Stains on Eternity: Why Zimmerman Couldn’t Let It Go With an Ass-Whoopin’

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 27, 2012 at 8:06 pm |

            Or maybe:

            “Of White Hoods and Hoodies: Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and America’s Lynch Mob Without a Cause”

          • Jin The Ninja | Aug 28, 2012 at 9:05 am |

            best of the worst really.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2012 at 1:09 pm |

            Will you post a picture of the flagellation? 

          • mannyfurious | Aug 23, 2012 at 3:33 pm |

            I suppose….

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:51 pm |

            Regarding your post above, in which you say:

            “I was witness to the posts. And they have indeed changed.
            This is getting rather trite.”

            Nothing could be more trite than a false accusation. 

            Why would I ever, ever, ever accuse Jin of being overly concerned about grammar?  Have you ever seen him use anything better than 2nd grade level grammar?  EVER? 

            Would it not make more sense, if I were going to give him shit, to make fun of his nails-on-a-chalkboard grammar?  Seeing that I LOVE calling out bad grammar, why in the fuck would I make fun of someone else for being a “grammar nerd”?

            Jesus, man.

            Don’t tell me that you, Calypso, are also willing to warp reality to make a point!

            If you have followed this thread at all, and seen the way these cats sidestep facts, or else revert back to ideological arguments, or simply whip out ad hominem attacks based on false assumptions, and somehow it all boils down to whether or not I did or didn’t make fun of someone’s piss-poor grammar…

            Well, I guess we’re having fun after all, arent we?!

            Believe it or not, watching your buddies squirm is great fun.  All these koi fish, and only one man with a bottle… 

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm |

            When I warp reality it is usually to make a whole. 

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 1:12 pm |

            I cite the data in your links specifically, one by one, in a separate post. Did you miss that? If not, then it would appear that you either did not read your own citations, or are not able to respond to my argument coherently.

            At least you admit that your comments are “spurious.”

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm |

            By the way, one study says “over 70%” and the other says 72%.  That is neither “in the mid 70s,” nor could it be justification for claiming 70-80 percent.

            Did you read the articles?  Are you sure you aren’t just trying to win an argument on the basis of your beliefs, rather than your facts?

          • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm |

            Are you aware of a statistical breakdown of mass murders showing whites to be out of proportion to their numbers?

            The breakdown cited in the Wikipedia article I just linked to shows that both white and black serial killers are out of proportion because Hispanics are barely represented–possibly because “white Hispanics” and “black Hispanics” are not being counted.

        • mannyfurious | Aug 22, 2012 at 4:50 pm |

          Also, Matthew Murray wasn’t a school shooter, and he’s still not on the list.

  2. Fuck this stupid “privilege” nonsense

  3. my favorite privileged white mass murderers are:
    W. Bush & his Dick, Cheney
    and almost every US Prez since Kennedy
    Hitler & Stalin, of course
    Columbus, but he was a accidental mass murderer
    Cortez & Pizarro
    all the US Prezez who exterminated the American Indians
    man, there’s quite a list of privileged whit mass murderers

    • TedHeistman | Aug 21, 2012 at 8:52 am |

      You don’t even know what an Indian is. If you saw a real Plains Indian like Gall,jumping off his horse and killing peoiple with his hatchet you would shit your pants and die.

      The only reason you take up for the Indians is because you feel sorry for them. What a compliment. Gall, Crazy Horse, Genghis Khan, William the Conqueor were differentiated by accidents of history, not by levels of Warrior Spirit. There is such a thing as a Warrior.

      • Ted. Now, now… You have to admit that you are privileged to know that shit and it has been filtered and trampled enough that you call different Nations of Natives to North America; Indians. Go figure. You don’t know them, so stop thinking you are smart.

        • Jesus Borg | Aug 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm |

          Well, I have second and third hand info too I just don’t filter it through a Jared Diamond/Derrick Jensen/John Zerzan Lense as much as some people on here. Left winger’s have this trope that Native Americans/Indians whatever the fuck you want to call them, were like Adam and eve living in a peaceable kindgdom until Whitey came a long and had a bad influence on them and taught them to kill and before that they were innocent children that just threw rocks at each other. But really that’s not the best theory for the evidence. There were lots of Warrior tribes, and some more peaceful and many alliances.

          Anyway the best primary source I have for the battle of little Big horn is an account from an Indian woman eye witness. All the other eye witnesses were from Native men who each claimed to have single handedly killed Custer, so I consider hers the most reliable. Anyway, the native women thought Custer was attractive. That’s because they liked warriors. A lot of anthropology is about sexual selection. In a lot of cultures the reason guys act the way they do is because they want to impress the women.

          So anyway all these Plains tribes faught each other before they joined forces to fight the White man and they inter married between tribes, so the fact that some Man is fighting the men in your tribe isn’t enough to turn women off. Custer had a women that considered herself his Wife and she mourned his death an this women that witnesses Little Big horn knew her.

          Anyway her description was that The Indians were total bad asses and that the white men basically ran scared and got run down.

          Geronimo was a Bad ass too. I honor the Warrior Spirit of the Native Americans. They weren’t the  pacifist Vegan pussies that many Left Wingers would like to paint them as.

  4. The language of critical race theory and critical whiteness specifically is itself a privileged code that a limited segment of the middle class has access to. Because it frames the topic around the use of the word privilege in the imperative mood, and because the imperative mood implies the second person in English, there is an implied condemnation of specific individuals that arises from the negative charge of the word privilege in conjunction with the grammatical implication that the person using the language is refering specifically to an individual receiver, particular where there are strong reasons for the receiver to identify with the more general third person direct object of the verbs in the sentences so constructed. 

    Those who have not been privileged with the opportunities or the intellectual gifts necessary to examine the social effects of culturally unexamined normativity based on power imbalances sourced in race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality are justified to feel offput by such language, even if the speaker is speaking in the first person and generalizing to the wider class of persons, as is the case here.I always fel like this is a serious tactical error that will always tend to ghettoize any sort of critical theory operating on this particular poststructuralist, identity politick model of race relations, because no one is ever going to take seriously anyone who begins talking to him in a way that he feels insulted by.That doesn’t make the reaction right or wrong, it just is what it is, and it is justified to the extent that a power imbalance is created in the discourse where the receiver of the messages is purposely excluded from fully engaging in discourse because of the speakers choice of langugage.Which is to say, this makes an important and intersting point about mass killers and the way our society and media process these sorts of heinous crimes, but no one outside of the limited few who are well versed in the language of critical race theory will understand it correctly, and the rest will feel attacked and put off, and therefore reinforced in whatever sense of entitlement they have which the CRT argument attempts to address.I think if the noun phrase “dumb luck” were used in place of privilege, you wouldn’t find any comments like the other ones already posted and sure to be posted again cursing out this article and bitching about how they aren’t “privileged” even though they had the “dumb luck” to be born white, straight and male.

  5. Trivium68 | Aug 21, 2012 at 7:21 am |

    I would argue that folks need to look into MKULTRA as the cause for many of these shootings.
    James Holmes and the Aurora Shooting screams MKULTRA (look at the facts)
    There have been noted similarities of James Holmes to SIRHAN SIRHAN (who shot Robert F Kennedy)

    Talk about Disinformation, much of the conversation is getting distracted (conveniently enough) on mental illness, a plausible cause,however, one must look at motive and the surrounding evidence that makes one question why someone like James Holmes would do what he did (Plus the fact that there is accounts that there was a 2nd shooter and possibly a “handler” involved). 

    James Holmes father is a computer software developer and was supposed to testify in the LIBOR case. 

    Also, James Holmes was originally described as very smart, and had ties to Neuroscience projects including DAARPA.  Yet as the days went on, he suddenly was described as “not so smart”.


    Just ask the questions, don’t be distracted by the run of the mill cries of “mental illness”.  James Holmes has the look of being either drugged or under severe hypnotic mind control events.

    • David Howe | Aug 21, 2012 at 7:33 am |

       The reason that people come up with conspiracy theories like this is because they are more comforting than the truth.  The truth is chaos and we don’t have any control.


    Everybody says there is a problem called White Privilege. Everybody says this White Privilege problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve Asian Privilege by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this White Privilege problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this problem called Black Privilege and this Black Privilege would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a Black Privilege problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    • How about “Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, the Middle East for the Arabs, Europe for the Whites, and the Americas for the Native Americans?”  Sounds fair to me.

    • Pipi Longstock | Aug 21, 2012 at 12:29 pm |

       Shut the fuck-up Charles Manson! Thought you were still in prison.

    • TennesseeCyberian | Aug 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm |

      Yo, dawg, ease up on the cliches, will ya?

  7. Fyrefly15 | Aug 21, 2012 at 5:48 pm |

    This seemed to drift away from the topic. Just a bit. 

  8. god what a turd of an article, all it is is a reflection of the unresolved guilt and self hate of the author -would this website post an article called ‘why most rapists are black’? no of course not. So how come some moronic leftist with a guilt complex gets to socially construct whites as some kind of demonic racial group?

  9. Yeah, yeah, next you’re going to say there’s disproportionate numbers of blacks in prison.

  10. Mark Scott | Sep 27, 2013 at 3:43 pm |

    75% of the population is white. 13% black. More white people = more white mass murderers. Duh! There are plenty of black mass murderers. Here are just a few.

    Colin Ferguson (not the actor)

    Maurice Clemmons

    Omar Sheriff Thornton

    Nathan Dunlap

    John Allen Muhammad

    Lee Boyd Malvo

    Christopher Dorner

    Anthony Sowell

    Lorenzo Gilyard

    Coral Eugene Watts

    Rodrick Shante Dantzler

    Marvin Stringer

    Reginald and Jonathan Carr

    Lemaricus Davidson

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