“Sometimes You Have To Think Outside The Box”

By Lee Camp on September 19, 2012 in News 55

http://twitter.com/alizardx A.Lizard

“The box” is imaginary. Refuse to accept it and it disappears.
- Matt Staggs
  
  This fellow begs to differ.
http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

one bit made me laugh
because wearing jammies in the grocery store is normal in China
what’s outside the box somewhere is normal somewhere else
Free Your Mind… and Your Ass Will Follow

I once picked up a home-free dude
on my way back from being a Buddhist monk for a month
thinkin’ I was rad
his adventure stories made me feel like I’d spent my life
with my thumb up my ass
- Matt Staggs
  
  I should say
  that a life without
  dental care, a warm bed and internet
  is a bridge too far
  for this man
  
  Comfort and routine
  is of great import
  I do not deny
  my nature
  
  also
  my
  wife
  would
  have
  my
  ass
- Matt Staggs
  
  I should say
  that a life without
  dental care, a warm bed and internet
  is a bridge too far
  for this man
  
  Comfort and routine
  is of great import
  I do not deny
  my nature
  
  also
  my
  wife
  would
  have
  my
  ass
  - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
    
    the propaganda always paints it that way
    tell me about it after you’ve tried & failed
    
    there was a time I thought I couldn’t live without $600 wines or a first class seat
    and that life wasn’t complete without an in-home theater system
    
    I have since discovered that simpler pleasures are just as pleasing
    and I haven’t ever been without food, shelter or clothing
    while at the same time traveling the world
    and living better than 90% of the world’s population at the same time
    I find that more rewarding than meeting the projected numbers for the quarter
    
    but ya neva know until you try
    - Calypso_1
      
      I used to be involved in SERE training. So within a limited frame work I’ve experienced the lack of clothing, food and shelter. In most of the environments that I did this I found the most decimating aspect to immediate survival was mosquitoes. Mud becomes a friend very quickly & your first clothing and shelter.
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        remind me to tell you how to eliminate mosquitoes from your reality
        
        once when I was going through my transition
        I almost ran completely out of food for a few hours
        I discover that food would track me down
        
        I remember a poem from Rumi about this
        Rumi – Scarcity Scared Silly
        http://youtu.be/Nzo323dRr58
        
        Once a sheikh and a disciple were walking quickly toward a town where it’s known there is very little to eat. The disciple says nothing but he is constantly afraid of going hungry. The teacher knows what the student thinks. How long will you be frightened of the future because you love food? You have closed the eye of self-denial and forgotten who provides. Don’t worry, you’ll have your walnuts and raisins and special deserts. Only the true favorites get hunger for their daily bread. You’re not one of those. Whoever loves the belly is brought bowl after bowl from the kitchen. When such a person dies, the bread itself comes to the funeral and makes a speech. “O corpse, you almost killed yourself with worrying about food. Now you’re gone and food is still here, more than enough. Have some free bread. Bread is more in love with you than you with it. It sits and waits for days. It knows you have no will. If you could fast, bread would jump into your lap as lovers do with each other. Be full with trusting, not with these childish fears of famine.
      - TedHeistman
        
        That’s actually been my experience with food. I guess I must not love sex enough though, because that doesn’t seem to follow me around!
        
        What’s the secret to elimating mosquitoes? I found burning cow shit to make a smudge works, but not always practical. but if you are in an area with a lot of cows give it a try.
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        the secret is hidden in yer noggin
        
        there’s some other practical things like the cow shit
        but ultimately it’s about controlling yer mind
      - Ted Heistman
        
        I thought it was about carbon dioxide and body heat? So I am guessing it involves lowing your body temperature and respiration?
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        for me it worked something like this
        I was living in mosquito central & didn’t know it
        someone pointed mosquito central out to me
        I then began to be plagued by mosquitoes
        I reasoned that the only thing that changed was my awareness
        and that I needed to get back to my original non-awareness
        after several weeks of effort, I did
        now the only time I see mosquitoes
        are when people point them out
        & they never bite me
        
        how that works
        I have no clue
      - Calypso_1
        
        I do truly believe that awareness and conscious contact with insects can be achieved. I personally have done this with some very vicious parasitic wasp species through shamanic efforts and can not only work among them totally unmolested (whilst others are still stung) but have allowed them to curtail weevil populations in my nut trees while neighboring properties are blighted.
        However when it comes to mosquitoes in a survival situation, I didn’t really have the time to make nice. Swarms in the 10’s of thousands in a swampy area are simply intolerably. If I’d had the mojo to vanquish the boogers I would. More power to you if you’ve got it.
        I know what you are talking about, the food coming to you – when you truly need it. I’ve been fortunate to have some very, very wise teachers in this regard. I’ve felt the starving hunger of a deer in winter & she’s felt mine. I never hunt without fasting extensively. It’s wrong to hunt well fed. The land itself has to decide how to reconcile the hunger.
      - Calypso_1
        
        I do truly believe that awareness and conscious contact with insects can be achieved. I personally have done this with some very vicious parasitic wasp species through shamanic efforts and can not only work among them totally unmolested (whilst others are still stung) but have allowed them to curtail weevil populations in my nut trees while neighboring properties are blighted.
        However when it comes to mosquitoes in a survival situation, I didn’t really have the time to make nice. Swarms in the 10’s of thousands in a swampy area are simply intolerably. If I’d had the mojo to vanquish the boogers I would. More power to you if you’ve got it.
        I know what you are talking about, the food coming to you – when you truly need it. I’ve been fortunate to have some very, very wise teachers in this regard. I’ve felt the starving hunger of a deer in winter & she’s felt mine. I never hunt without fasting extensively. It’s wrong to hunt well fed. The land itself has to decide how to reconcile the hunger.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        it makes complete sense to be able to connect to ‘hive’ insects. bees are important in taiwanese aboriginal and san folklore. they don’t inspire the same reverence in the western world, but if spiders, scarabs, and scorpions can be sacred animals so could wasps.
      - Calypso_1
        
        There are many folkloric accounts, particularly among monastics, regarding conscious contact with bees.
        I don’t know anything about the place of bees in taiwanese or san folklore. Perhaps you will elucidate. I do believe, however that bees have often inspired sacred reverence in western culture….I think they have that effect everywhere : )
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        at this point
        the only way for me to know mesquites are around
        is for someone to tell me
        but even then they don’t bite me
        
        nonetheless, I still don’t know how that works
        but I do have the experience of thoughts creating my reality
        and so despite my sometimes paranoid rants
        till now I’ve had the same experience with Uncle Homeland
        some persistent buzzing, but no real bites
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        at this point
        the only way for me to know mesquites are around
        is for someone to tell me
        but even then they don’t bite me
        
        nonetheless, I still don’t know how that works
        but I do have the experience of thoughts creating my reality
        and so despite my sometimes paranoid rants
        till now I’ve had the same experience with Uncle Homeland
        some persistent buzzing, but no real bites
      - Calypso_1
        
        has anybody made their way to disinfo without a fair share of ~thEpARaN0ia~?
      - Calypso_1
        
        has anybody made their way to disinfo without a fair share of ~thEpARaN0ia~?
      - Matt Staggs
        
        at this point
        the only way for me to
        know that mesquites are around is the smokey aroma..
      - Matt Staggs
        
        at this point
        the only way for me to
        know that mesquites are around is the smokey aroma..
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        sometimes
        spell-check
        has to
        think
        outside the box
      - BrianApocalypse
        
        A good friend of mine was once in Hawaii, hanging out with some of the local shamanic folk, and was given this advice on how to deal with the mosquitoes:
        
        Grab hold of one of them, look directly at it and speak ‘through’ it to its leader saying, “If any of you bite me then I’ll come and do to you what I’m about to do this one!” And then eat it!
        
        My friend did this and then walked naked through a forest that was densely populated with swarms of mosquitoes and came out the other side without a single bite
      - BrianApocalypse
        
        A good friend of mine was once in Hawaii, hanging out with some of the local shamanic folk, and was given this advice on how to deal with the mosquitoes:
        
        Grab hold of one of them, look directly at it and speak ‘through’ it to its leader saying, “If any of you bite me then I’ll come and do to you what I’m about to do this one!” And then eat it!
        
        My friend did this and then walked naked through a forest that was densely populated with swarms of mosquitoes and came out the other side without a single bite
      - Ted Heistman
        
        OK so now that we are safely into “High weirdness” territory I will relate something I did once regarding shamanism and mosquitoes. I meditated to contact “the great mosquito” to get his “charge” or whatever to stop biting me. You what she said? “We have parasites too. and she showed me like a microscopic image of a mosquito with little mites or something hitch hiking on them.
        
        So I said OK. How about if I see you guys I will squish you but if I don’t see you you can bite me? Fair enough?
        
        she said “That is the way its always been”
      - Calypso_1
        
        high weirdness
        ^this
  - Jin The Ninja
    
    either i am far too easily contented or too consumerist for my own good. i’d give up internet, dental and bed for: sushi/sashimi from tojo’s in vancouver, ethiopian yirgacheffe (french pressed), and a pair of momotaro’s 0705sp ‘going to battle.’
  - Jin The Ninja
    
    either i am far too easily contented or too consumerist for my own good. i’d give up internet, dental and bed for: sushi/sashimi from tojo’s in vancouver, ethiopian yirgacheffe (french pressed), and a pair of momotaro’s 0705sp ‘going to battle.’
    - Jin has style
      
      $315.00 for jeans!!!! That’s fucking nutz. Expensive jeans for me would be $60 – $100 and that’s pushing it.
      - Matt Staggs
        
        To be fair to Jin The Ninja, it wasn’t too long ago that he described himself as ”
        a DEEPLY jaded little eurasian hipster”. Told you it’d come back to haunt you, pal!
      - Matt Staggs
        
        To be fair to Jin The Ninja, it wasn’t too long ago that he described himself as ”
        a DEEPLY jaded little eurasian hipster”. Told you it’d come back to haunt you, pal!
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i am pretty serious when it comes to denim.
        it must be raw, selvedge, and preferably japanese.
        i also like sneakers, and i am lucky in that i don’t have to wear suits or dress clothes.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i realise i must sound a bit like a spoiled brat. so i apologise for that. i was trying to bring some cosmopolitan eurasian- hipster levity;)
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        i realise i must sound a bit like a spoiled brat. so i apologise for that. i was trying to bring some cosmopolitan eurasian- hipster levity;)
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        lol. i never said i was a cheap date, but i appreciate that you think i have style.there are quite a few respectable pairs for around one bill nowadays.
      - Jin The Ninja
        
        lol. i never said i was a cheap date, but i appreciate that you think i have style.there are quite a few respectable pairs for around one bill nowadays.
  - TedHeistman
    
    I actually live in a hammock right now….
    - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
      
      Larry???
      I know at least 10 people living in hammock
    - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
      
      Larry???
      I know at least 10 people living in hammock
      - Ted Heistman
        
        You must run with a fun crowd! Seriously. That’s living!
      - http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin
        
        my guess is that your hammock is in Hawaii somewhere
        at least that’s where all my hammock dwelling friends live
        mostly on Kaua’i
        many of them in Kalalau, which is hammock central
      - Ted Heistman
        
        Its actually in Washington. It may have a tarp over it soon.
      - Andrew
        
        That’s a pretty big hammock.
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SDGHYKRODBXAIPWTZPPUUMCOAI Ray

This guys schtick is really deteriorating. Celebrating homelessness and schizophrenia? Repeating business seminar cliches from the Nineties? Did he find a copy of “In Search of Excellence” on the subway or something? Did he mistake this tome for a subversive dispatch from the anarchists of the past?
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/SDGHYKRODBXAIPWTZPPUUMCOAI Ray

This guys schtick is really deteriorating. Celebrating homelessness and schizophrenia? Repeating business seminar cliches from the Nineties? Did he find a copy of “In Search of Excellence” on the subway or something? Did he mistake this tome for a subversive dispatch from the anarchists of the past?
- Miracles
  
  This guy’s schtick deteriorated for me within the first 15 seconds of watching his first video here. A loud mouth with nothing very compelling coming out of it.
Andrew

You’re annoying a lot of Disinfo’s readers, Mr. Camp.

Keep up the good work!
Simiantongue

There’s a box? I’ll have to look into that.
- Matt Staggs
  
  Looking into the box is how they get you, maaaan…
  - Simiantongue
    
    Not to worry. My astounding ignorance of convention will insulate me. It’s worked up until now anyway.
  - http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient
    
    he’s so outside the box that he looks from the outside in
    - Simiantongue
      
      Looking from the outside in denotes perspective and knowledge. I claim ignorance. I may be in a box, or it may be turtles all the way down. That’s the problem with ignorance, you just don’t know.
Bender

Lewis Black on crack.
Bender

Lewis Black on crack.