“Sometimes You Have To Think Outside The Box”

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  1. “The box” is imaginary. Refuse to accept it and it disappears.

  2. one bit made me laugh
    because wearing jammies in the grocery store is normal in China
    what’s outside the box somewhere is normal somewhere else
    Free Your Mind… and Your Ass Will Follow

    I once picked up a home-free dude
    on my way back from being a Buddhist monk for a month
    thinkin’ I was rad
    his adventure stories made me feel like I’d spent my life
    with my thumb up my ass

    • Matt Staggs | Sep 19, 2012 at 9:20 am |

      I should say
      that a life without
      dental care, a warm bed and internet
      is a bridge too far
      for this man

      Comfort and routine
      is of great import
      I do not deny
      my nature

      also
      my
      wife
      would
      have
      my
      ass

    • Matt Staggs | Sep 19, 2012 at 9:20 am |

      I should say
      that a life without
      dental care, a warm bed and internet
      is a bridge too far
      for this man

      Comfort and routine
      is of great import
      I do not deny
      my nature

      also
      my
      wife
      would
      have
      my
      ass

      • the propaganda always paints it that way
        tell me about it after you’ve tried & failed

        there was a time I thought I couldn’t live without $600 wines or a first class seat
        and that life wasn’t complete without an in-home theater system

        I have since discovered that simpler pleasures are just as pleasing
        and I haven’t ever been without food, shelter or clothing
        while at the same time traveling the world
        and living better than 90% of the world’s population at the same time
        I find that more rewarding than meeting the projected numbers for the quarter

        but ya neva know until you try

        • Calypso_1 | Sep 19, 2012 at 10:06 am |

          I used to be involved in SERE training.  So within a limited frame work I’ve experienced the lack of clothing, food and shelter.  In most of the environments that I did this I found the most decimating aspect to immediate survival was mosquitoes.  Mud becomes a friend very quickly & your first clothing and shelter.

          • remind me to tell you how to eliminate mosquitoes from your reality

            once when I was going through my transition
            I almost ran completely out of food for a few hours
            I discover that food would track me down

            I remember a poem from Rumi about this
            Rumi – Scarcity Scared Silly
            http://youtu.be/Nzo323dRr58

            Once a sheikh and a disciple were walking quickly toward a town where it’s known there is very little to eat. The disciple says nothing but he is constantly afraid of going hungry. The teacher knows what the student thinks. How long will you be frightened of the future because you love food? You have closed the eye of self-denial and forgotten who provides. Don’t worry, you’ll have your walnuts and raisins and special deserts. Only the true favorites get hunger for their daily bread. You’re not one of those. Whoever loves the belly is brought bowl after bowl from the kitchen. When such a person dies, the bread itself comes to the funeral and makes a speech. “O corpse, you almost killed yourself with worrying about food. Now you’re gone and food is still here, more than enough. Have some free bread. Bread is more in love with you than you with it. It sits and waits for days. It knows you have no will. If you could fast, bread would jump into your lap as lovers do with each other. Be full with trusting, not with these childish fears of famine.

          • TedHeistman | Sep 19, 2012 at 2:35 pm |

            That’s actually been my experience with food. I guess I must not love sex enough though, because that doesn’t seem to follow me around!

            What’s the secret to elimating mosquitoes? I found burning cow shit to make a smudge works, but not always practical. but if you are in an area with a lot of cows give it a try.

          •  the secret is hidden in yer noggin

            there’s some other practical things like the cow shit
            but ultimately it’s about controlling yer mind

          • Ted Heistman | Sep 19, 2012 at 9:43 pm |

             I thought it was about carbon dioxide and body heat? So I am guessing it involves lowing your body temperature and respiration?

          • for me it worked something like this
            I was living in mosquito central & didn’t know it
            someone pointed mosquito central out to me
            I then began to be plagued by mosquitoes
            I reasoned that the only thing that changed was my awareness
            and that I needed to get back to my original non-awareness
            after several weeks of effort, I did
            now the only time I see mosquitoes
            are when people point them out
            & they never bite me

            how that works
            I have no clue

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:43 pm |

            I do truly believe that awareness and conscious contact with insects can be achieved.  I personally have done this with some very vicious parasitic wasp species through shamanic efforts and can not only work among them totally unmolested (whilst others are still stung) but have allowed them to curtail weevil populations in my nut trees while neighboring properties are blighted. 
            However when it comes to mosquitoes in a survival situation, I didn’t really have the time to make nice.  Swarms in the 10’s of thousands in a swampy area are simply intolerably.  If I’d had the mojo to vanquish the boogers I would.  More power to you if you’ve got it.
            I know what you are talking about, the food coming to you – when you truly need it.  I’ve been fortunate to have some very, very wise teachers in this regard.  I’ve felt the starving hunger of a deer in winter & she’s felt mine.  I never hunt without fasting extensively.  It’s wrong to hunt well fed.  The land itself has to decide how to reconcile the hunger.

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:43 pm |

            I do truly believe that awareness and conscious contact with insects can be achieved.  I personally have done this with some very vicious parasitic wasp species through shamanic efforts and can not only work among them totally unmolested (whilst others are still stung) but have allowed them to curtail weevil populations in my nut trees while neighboring properties are blighted. 
            However when it comes to mosquitoes in a survival situation, I didn’t really have the time to make nice.  Swarms in the 10’s of thousands in a swampy area are simply intolerably.  If I’d had the mojo to vanquish the boogers I would.  More power to you if you’ve got it.
            I know what you are talking about, the food coming to you – when you truly need it.  I’ve been fortunate to have some very, very wise teachers in this regard.  I’ve felt the starving hunger of a deer in winter & she’s felt mine.  I never hunt without fasting extensively.  It’s wrong to hunt well fed.  The land itself has to decide how to reconcile the hunger.

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:55 pm |

            it makes complete sense to be able to connect to ‘hive’ insects.  bees are important in taiwanese aboriginal and san folklore. they don’t inspire the same reverence in the western world, but if spiders, scarabs, and scorpions can be sacred animals so could wasps.

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 20, 2012 at 12:00 am |

            There are many folkloric accounts, particularly among monastics, regarding conscious contact with bees. 
            I don’t know anything about the place of bees in taiwanese or san folklore.  Perhaps you will elucidate.  I do believe, however that bees have often inspired sacred reverence in western culture….I think they have that effect everywhere : )

          • at this point
            the only way for me to know mesquites are around
            is for someone to tell me
            but even then they don’t bite me

            nonetheless, I still don’t know how that works
            but I do have the experience of thoughts creating my reality
            and so despite my sometimes paranoid rants
            till now I’ve had the same experience with Uncle Homeland
            some persistent buzzing, but no real bites

          • at this point
            the only way for me to know mesquites are around
            is for someone to tell me
            but even then they don’t bite me

            nonetheless, I still don’t know how that works
            but I do have the experience of thoughts creating my reality
            and so despite my sometimes paranoid rants
            till now I’ve had the same experience with Uncle Homeland
            some persistent buzzing, but no real bites

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 20, 2012 at 12:17 am |

            has anybody made their way to disinfo without a fair share of ~thEpARaN0ia~?

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 20, 2012 at 12:17 am |

            has anybody made their way to disinfo without a fair share of ~thEpARaN0ia~?

          • Matt Staggs | Sep 21, 2012 at 12:24 pm |

            at this point
            the only way for me to
            know that mesquites are around is the smokey aroma..

          • Matt Staggs | Sep 21, 2012 at 12:24 pm |

            at this point
            the only way for me to
            know that mesquites are around is the smokey aroma..

          • sometimes
            spell-check
            has to
            think
            outside the box

          • BrianApocalypse | Sep 20, 2012 at 9:20 am |

             A good friend of mine was once in Hawaii, hanging out with some of the local shamanic folk, and was given this advice on how to deal with the mosquitoes:

            Grab hold of one of them, look directly at it and speak ‘through’ it to its leader saying, “If any of you bite me then I’ll come and do to you what I’m about to do this one!” And then eat it!

            My friend did this and then walked naked through a forest that was densely populated with swarms of mosquitoes and came out the other side without a single bite 🙂

          • BrianApocalypse | Sep 20, 2012 at 9:20 am |

             A good friend of mine was once in Hawaii, hanging out with some of the local shamanic folk, and was given this advice on how to deal with the mosquitoes:

            Grab hold of one of them, look directly at it and speak ‘through’ it to its leader saying, “If any of you bite me then I’ll come and do to you what I’m about to do this one!” And then eat it!

            My friend did this and then walked naked through a forest that was densely populated with swarms of mosquitoes and came out the other side without a single bite 🙂

          • Ted Heistman | Sep 20, 2012 at 10:25 am |

             OK so now that we are safely into “High weirdness” territory I will relate something I did once regarding shamanism and mosquitoes. I meditated to contact “the great mosquito” to get his “charge” or whatever to stop biting me. You what she said? “We have parasites too. and she showed me like a microscopic image of a mosquito with little mites or something hitch hiking on them.

            So I said OK. How about if I see you guys I will squish you but if I don’t see you you can bite me? Fair enough?

            she said “That is the way its always been”

          • Calypso_1 | Sep 20, 2012 at 2:45 pm |

            high weirdness
            ^this

      • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 10:01 am |

        either i am far too easily contented or too consumerist for my own good. i’d give up internet, dental and bed for:  sushi/sashimi from tojo’s in vancouver, ethiopian yirgacheffe (french pressed), and a pair of momotaro’s 0705sp ‘going to battle.’

      • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 10:01 am |

        either i am far too easily contented or too consumerist for my own good. i’d give up internet, dental and bed for:  sushi/sashimi from tojo’s in vancouver, ethiopian yirgacheffe (french pressed), and a pair of momotaro’s 0705sp ‘going to battle.’

        • Jin has style | Sep 19, 2012 at 3:52 pm |

          $315.00 for jeans!!!! That’s fucking nutz. Expensive jeans for me would be $60 – $100 and that’s pushing it. 

          • Matt Staggs | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm |

            To be fair to Jin The Ninja, it wasn’t too long ago that he described himself as ”
             a DEEPLY jaded little eurasian hipster”. Told you it’d come back to haunt you, pal! 🙂

          • Matt Staggs | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm |

            To be fair to Jin The Ninja, it wasn’t too long ago that he described himself as ”
             a DEEPLY jaded little eurasian hipster”. Told you it’d come back to haunt you, pal! 🙂

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:42 pm |

            i am pretty serious when it comes to denim.
            it must be raw, selvedge, and preferably japanese.
            i also like sneakers, and i am lucky in that i don’t have to wear suits or dress clothes.

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:37 pm |

            i realise i must sound a bit like a spoiled brat. so i apologise for that. i was trying to bring some cosmopolitan eurasian- hipster levity;)

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:37 pm |

            i realise i must sound a bit like a spoiled brat. so i apologise for that. i was trying to bring some cosmopolitan eurasian- hipster levity;)

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm |

            lol. i never said i was a cheap date, but i appreciate that you think i have style.there are quite a few respectable pairs for around one bill nowadays.

          • Jin The Ninja | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm |

            lol. i never said i was a cheap date, but i appreciate that you think i have style.there are quite a few respectable pairs for around one bill nowadays.

      • TedHeistman | Sep 19, 2012 at 11:10 am |

        I actually live in a hammock right now….

  3. This guys schtick is really deteriorating.  Celebrating homelessness and schizophrenia?  Repeating business seminar cliches from the Nineties?  Did he find a copy of “In Search of Excellence” on the subway or something?  Did he mistake this tome for a subversive dispatch from the anarchists of the past?

  4. This guys schtick is really deteriorating.  Celebrating homelessness and schizophrenia?  Repeating business seminar cliches from the Nineties?  Did he find a copy of “In Search of Excellence” on the subway or something?  Did he mistake this tome for a subversive dispatch from the anarchists of the past?

    • This guy’s schtick deteriorated for me within the first 15 seconds of watching his first video here.  A loud mouth with nothing very compelling coming out of it.

  5. You’re annoying a lot of Disinfo’s readers, Mr. Camp.

    Keep up the good work!

  6. Simiantongue | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:47 pm |

    There’s a box? I’ll have to look into that.

    • Matt Staggs | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:48 pm |

      Looking into the box is how they get you, maaaan…

      • Simiantongue | Sep 19, 2012 at 4:59 pm |

        Not to worry. My astounding ignorance of convention will insulate me. It’s worked up until now anyway.

      • he’s so outside the box that he looks from the outside in

        • Simiantongue | Sep 21, 2012 at 5:00 am |

           Looking from the outside in denotes perspective and knowledge. I claim ignorance. I may be in a box, or it may be turtles all the way down. That’s the problem with ignorance, you just don’t know.

  7. Lewis Black on crack.

  8. Lewis Black on crack.

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