Being A Guinea Pig

Guinea pig injectionI’m getting ready to go to the bank and cash my check and have so many hundred dollar bills that I won’t be able to close my wallet. So what have a been doing for the
last 11 days?

Just hanging out in a dorm like setting, listening to music, browsing the internet. Checking out DVD’s, playing a little pool(which I suck at) a little ping pong. Flirting with nurses.

I am a human Guinea pig. I am being paid to participate in a clinical research trial as a test subject. I’d love to tell you that I am now hallucinating, drooling, talking to myself and covered with hives from all the adverse side effects,but that’s actually not the case.

I feel really good and well rested actually. I’ve had no stress and plenty of time to catch up on my sleep and then some. Its so easy it seems like it must be some kind of scam. If there is a scam, here is what it is:

These drugs don’t really do much of anything. How many people do you know have been taking some pill prescribed by a doctor everyday for years and now have forgotten what it was for? I get paid to take one of these pills one time.The purpose of these drugs is to make money for Pharmaceutical companies and their purpose has a shelf life. After a while the patents expire and they become generic. So these companies need to fiddle around with a few ingredients, roll out a new drug and get the revenue stream flowing again. The FDA requires testing, first with animals and then humans and that’s where I come in.

They need healthy people to test these drugs on. So you show up, after being qualified with a phone interview, they give you a physical, take some blood samples, and then call you a few days later to let you know if you made it into the study.

A few days after that you show up with your overnight bag, change of clothes, tooth brush etc. and you are well on your way to getting a fat wad of cash! But first There are a few hurdles to get through.

The Phone interview:
This is what they want to hear: You are 100% healthy and have never had anything wrong with you ever. You have never been sick, never been injured, never had a disease and aren’t allergic to anything. If you want to get past the phone interview, that’s what you tell them. So basically they will rattle off all these questions, in a monotone, such as “Have you ever had a Sexually Transmitted disease…Have you ever been in a coma? and you will be answering “No, Nope, nope, no..”

I am actually a pretty healthy person. I am not telling you to lie, but if you had some problem in the past that you no longer have now, its better they not know. They have no way of finding out. Your medical records are confidential. For example, a guy I met in a study had asthma as a kid, and made the mistake of telling them that and he hardly gets in any studies.

You can’t smoke either. Actually you can, its just that when you show up you can’t have any nicotine in your system, or any illicit drugs, or oddly enough grapefruit. You won’t be able to smoke while you are there either.

The Physical:
During the physical they take your vital signs, blood pressure temperature, you give a blood sample and a urine sample. They weigh you and measure your height to determine your body mass index, which usually has to be below 30. Its pretty good physical, so if you don’t have insurance, its a good way to find out how healthy you are. This is how I found out last year that I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol and possibly a borderline fasting glucose level. (Which could be a sign of pre-diabetes) So since then I’ve lost 25 lbs and adopted a much better diet and now I am back in.

The Way I lost $3000.000 once:

I smoked a cigar the night before my physical. Banned from that particular place for a year after that, because to be considered a non smoker you have to have not smoked for a year. Of course you could always lie if you were doing a study and had just quit a week earlier, but in my case they had proof.

Once you get through the first physical and check in for the study you have another physical.

At check in they go through your bags. You can’t have any contraband, like breath mints, dangerous weapons such as pen knives or oddly enough condoms. Can’t bring condoms. hooking up with other Guinea pigs during the study is verboten. Seen it happen though, even between guinea pigs and female staff.

When you check in for day zero, look around. These people are your competitors. Probably they called in, say, 20 people for the study but only 15 are needed. So you do another physical and the doctors pick the 15 healthiest ones and label them 1-15 on the “dose grid” Number one is usually one healthy motherfucker. Often number one literally glows with health and often has a permanent smirk because he or she will always get to eat and get procedures done first for the duration of the study.

Out of the 20, a couple probably won’t show up. One or two will possibly test positive for drugs or alcohol so they will get sent home right away, but a couple will be chosen as alternates. As an alternate you stay over night in case someone on the dose grid gets sick or can’t continue the study for some reason. If you find yourself an alternate It might be a good idea to engage in psychological warfare against a chosen mark on the dose grid. Maybe its their first time. You could drop stories about all the horrible side effects you’ve seen, like permanent irreversible impotence and massive fatal nose warts. Maybe they will freak out and withdraw and you will be in like Flynn!

Or on dose day they won’t need you and will send you home and mail you a check in a week or so for $100.00-$250.00 for your trouble. Which is better than a kick in the head.

Dose Day

Dose day isn’t really so bad. You take a pill or maybe get an IV or drink a liquid and then they take your blood a bunch of times in ascending intervals, to trace it through your system to see how fast your body gets rid of the drug. Usually you have to sit on these comfy chairs most of the day. And the nurses come around and take vital signs, blood, do ECG’s. 15 minutes later, then a half hour, an hour later, 2 hours etc.

You can read books or magazines, draw in your sketchbook, knit, crochet, or just shoot the shit with the people around you.

Other Guinea Pigs.

Its a pretty diverse group of people you see in these studies. Its often racially diverse by design because that is what the Sponsors want for the studies. A lot of college students. Also creative types, such as artists, writers and musicians that need cash. A few tweakers that learn how to game the system and get in after they detox. There really are not a lot of people with serious problems, because they usually aren’t healthy enough to get in, but occasionally you get some young healthy ex-cons fresh out of prison. The Staff try to put people together that they think will get along as room mates, which is a good idea. Usually four to a room with bunk beds, but often they only put two to room if they have can fit it.

Occasionally I meet people I really hit it off with, such as writers or artists, or people that share intellectual interests. Sometimes, I get in with a bunch of young guys that just want to play video games and watch sports all day. I usually bring a laptop and keep to myself if there is no one I really want to hang out with. Not that many women seem to do studies. Most studies are for healthy males, and I think also more women are afraid(or too smart) to do studies, or they have kids and can’t get a baby sitter for the stay. But the women that do get in automatically move up three points on the hotness scale and become really popular.

WARNING! MAY BE HABIT FORMING!

I’ve done about a dozen of these studies, over the course of 5 years in just two different places depending what state I was living in at the time. There are professional Guinea pigs that make $30-40,000.00 a year flying around the country doing studies. The guy that runs that website does just that. I’ve heard of people making twice that, which is certainly possible. Its possibly if you go from one study to the next and get lucky, moving from Facility to Facility. You are supposed to wait 30 days, to “wash out” between each study, but if you go from one company to another company, they have no way of knowing. Your medical records are confidential and they don’t compare notes.

The reason I have never traveled just to do studies, is mostly because I am 41(most studies are for people 18-45) and have borderline high BMI for getting into studies, so I am usually further down the dose grid. I’d hate to fly out to another state and get a hotel for a few days waiting to screen and then not get in and have to fly back, or else end up living in that state for a while. But with a little luck it might be a fun way to see the country. Perhaps, do a study, travel around with the money, see the sights, and then do another one when you run out of cash. I’ve talked to people who have done that. It works best if you aren’t simultaneously paying rent somewhere while you do this.

So I usually do studies when I am totally broke. Then sometimes I will go back and do another one 30 days later and then after that I will have gotten a job.

It a good thing to do if you are broke and need to get a couple, three grand really fast. Once you do a study its really hard to do stupid shit for close minimum wage again. Not many jobs pay you $3000.00 for doing nothing for two weeks. Its addicting. But the best thing to use them for is a foot stone to help you become self employed doing something you love.

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  • Ted Heistman

    I’m here if anyone has a question.

  • Ted Heistman

    I’m here if anyone has a question.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      I greatly enjoy when the Disinfo forum “regulars” submit articles that are primarily original content. 

      Good job.

      Even though it sounds like the studies you’re participating in are pretty safe, there must always be the spectre of the TGN1412 trial floating around in the background. In fact, you could probably boost the washout rate by casually bringing that up in conversation.

      I have a younger friend who might be interested in doing something like what you describe. Any suggestions as to where they could best get started? Any particular firms or websites you’d recommend they contact?

      If you have some helpful suggestions but you’re hesitant to post that sort of info online (for fear of hurting your own prospects), I can provide you with my email address.

      Thanks for both the article and any additional info you can share.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      I greatly enjoy when the Disinfo forum “regulars” submit articles that are primarily original content. 

      Good job.

      Even though it sounds like the studies you’re participating in are pretty safe, there must always be the spectre of the TGN1412 trial floating around in the background. In fact, you could probably boost the washout rate by casually bringing that up in conversation.

      I have a younger friend who might be interested in doing something like what you describe. Any suggestions as to where they could best get started? Any particular firms or websites you’d recommend they contact?

      If you have some helpful suggestions but you’re hesitant to post that sort of info online (for fear of hurting your own prospects), I can provide you with my email address.

      Thanks for both the article and any additional info you can share.

      • Ted Heistman

         Hey Thanks man! Its really been a great experience writing for disinfo and especially working with Matt Staggs.

        That website I linked to is actually the best resource. It has a listing of all the states that have companies that do trials and links to their websites, where you can get the phone numbers of the recruiters. Its a pretty easy to navigate website and run by a guy thats done over 50 studies.

        But here is my e-mail anyway tedheistman@gmail:disqus

        Ted.

        • Ted Heistman

          That made a weird link but anyway its my name at the gmails

    • “Big” Richard Johnson

      Say, hypothetically, I was in the Army and deployed a few times. I’m asking for a friend of course.

      That normally isn’t something you can hide, so how would that affect things if I decided to do a test or two? I also have a tattoo, which is even more difficult to hide during a physical.

      Err… my friend has a tattoo. I would never have one of those, especially not a red star. No siree.

      • Ted Heistman

         I meet fellow veterans in here and also people inked up. If the tattoo isn’t brand new and still oozing they don’t care.

      • Ted Heistman

         I meet fellow veterans in here and also people inked up. If the tattoo isn’t brand new and still oozing they don’t care.

        • “Big” Richard Johnson

          Alright, thats good since my ink was applied by a professional in a clean shop.

          Still though, I went in for every shot that was offered when I was in the Army, and at this point I’m probably immune to Ebola. This is on top of my being able to walk around town licking door knobs and not even getting the sniffles.

          Do I admit to this, or not?

        • “Big” Richard Johnson

          Alright, thats good since my ink was applied by a professional in a clean shop.

          Still though, I went in for every shot that was offered when I was in the Army, and at this point I’m probably immune to Ebola. This is on top of my being able to walk around town licking door knobs and not even getting the sniffles.

          Do I admit to this, or not?

          • Ted Heistman

             I’ve never been asked if I’ve gotten immunizations in the Army. I’ve never been asked if I was in the Army. They ask you about illness and diseases, injuries, surgeries things like that.

          • Ted Heistman

             I’ve never been asked if I’ve gotten immunizations in the Army. I’ve never been asked if I was in the Army. They ask you about illness and diseases, injuries, surgeries things like that.

  • Vexedmonk

    How long do i have to quit smoking for the nicotine to leave my system?

  • Vexedmonk

    How long do i have to quit smoking for the nicotine to leave my system?

    • Ted Heistman

       72 hours. I don’t really smoke regularly, but the cigar was only 24 hours earlier. So they popped me.  Most people in the studies don’t smoke but I’ve guys meet up with their girlfriends after a study and light up. So they must have not had a cigarette for a few days prior.

    • Ted Heistman

       72 hours. I don’t really smoke regularly, but the cigar was only 24 hours earlier. So they popped me.  Most people in the studies don’t smoke but I’ve guys meet up with their girlfriends after a study and light up. So they must have not had a cigarette for a few days prior.

  • Vexedmonk

    Thanks for the reply. This sounds like a viable living assuming a person meets the physical requirements and can stand spend all that time in the facility. Thou I’d be slightly concerned about the long term effects of the many drugs.

  • Vexedmonk

    Thanks for the reply. This sounds like a viable living assuming a person meets the physical requirements and can stand spend all that time in the facility. Thou I’d be slightly concerned about the long term effects of the many drugs.

    • Ted Heistman

       Yeah, I’ve turned down some studies. I heard that AIDS drugs and cancer drugs are pretty hard core and can mess you up. But most of the drugs they test are pretty innocuous. Often you only take on dose for the duration of the study. I have actually never met anyone in a study that has had a serious side effect, and I’ve met people that have done a lot of them.

      I met a guy that did a drug meant to treat impotence and he said everyone had a boner for a few hours after dosing, which I thought was pretty funny. You hear a lot of urban legends though so you can’t trust everything you hear.

      The worst side effect I ever had was diarrhea. It was a drug that gave you the shits whenever you ate fat and they fed us a high fat diet. It was supposed to treat diabetes. Most I don’t feel anything and a few days later its out of my system.

      In a way I am glad that most people are nervous about doing one because the more people that do it the more competitive it is to get into them.  But its a good way to get some cash.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Honestly Ted, it sounds like the worst idea I’ve ever heard, but it does underscore the powerful effects of money.

    • Ted Heistman

       I agree it does sound bad. But the reality I have experienced is that these drugs do very little and the doses we take are pretty low. I usually don’t feel anything and don’t have any “adverse events” I am sure a night of drinking in excess does a lot more damage to my liver and brain than taking one diabetes pill.

    • Ted Heistman

       I agree it does sound bad. But the reality I have experienced is that these drugs do very little and the doses we take are pretty low. I usually don’t feel anything and don’t have any “adverse events” I am sure a night of drinking in excess does a lot more damage to my liver and brain than taking one diabetes pill.

      • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

        If they were paying you to mainline heroine, I’d be more supportive.

        But besides helping Big Pharma and receiving nickles in return for your help; god knows what kind of shit you’ve ingested and what its long term effects might be.

        There’s nothing harmless about Big Healthcare, that’s why they have to pay people to be Gimme pigs.

        But hey, it’s your body dude, abuse it as you see fit.

        • Ted Heistman

           Well, its really way less dramatic than that. Often I Google the drug. Like for example say, a high blood pressure pill, or  hay fever pill thats already been tested on people, and is almost exactly like something currently on the market.

          Taking one dose of that in a clinical setting, I am pretty sure has no long term effects. I am sure its far lass than people who take these drugs day in and day out. But I mean you are free to form whatever opinion you wish. I am just relating my experience.

          • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

            When I wrote that, I wasn’t thinking of you, I was thinking of the people you might influence, who need a counterpoint on which to reflect. It’s one thing to do it; it’s another thing to promote it.

            Not you of course, but others might want to consider reading
            Big Pharma: Exposing the Global Healthcare Agenda before joining the party. 

            Though I have to admit it’s an enticing deal to people on the margins, because it was intended that way.
             

          • Ted Heistman

             Well here is what I think about this. People don’t take responsibility for their health. Then they get older and their health suffers and they want a pill. Or they are younger and not happy with their life situation and they get depressed. They could quit their job follow their dream make changes but instead they want a pill. They could exercise eat veggies, learn about herbal remedies, meditation etc. But often they don’t and they go to the doctor and get pills.

            Sure I’m right with you on the big evil corporations. But just as in the case of  McDonald’s if all these people didn’t prefer fast food there wouldn’t be all these factory farms and E. coli outbreaks.

            I don’t take any medications whatsoever. Unless I am getting paid to and then its for a short period of time. So many people take these drugs day after day. They are the ones getting the toxic effects.

            But some drugs may actually help people in that case I’m helping. But most of these drugs are to give people peace of mind and make money for the drug companies.

          • Ted Heistman

             Well here is what I think about this. People don’t take responsibility for their health. Then they get older and their health suffers and they want a pill. Or they are younger and not happy with their life situation and they get depressed. They could quit their job follow their dream make changes but instead they want a pill. They could exercise eat veggies, learn about herbal remedies, meditation etc. But often they don’t and they go to the doctor and get pills.

            Sure I’m right with you on the big evil corporations. But just as in the case of  McDonald’s if all these people didn’t prefer fast food there wouldn’t be all these factory farms and E. coli outbreaks.

            I don’t take any medications whatsoever. Unless I am getting paid to and then its for a short period of time. So many people take these drugs day after day. They are the ones getting the toxic effects.

            But some drugs may actually help people in that case I’m helping. But most of these drugs are to give people peace of mind and make money for the drug companies.

          • Ted Heistman

             Well here is what I think about this. People don’t take responsibility for their health. Then they get older and their health suffers and they want a pill. Or they are younger and not happy with their life situation and they get depressed. They could quit their job follow their dream make changes but instead they want a pill. They could exercise eat veggies, learn about herbal remedies, meditation etc. But often they don’t and they go to the doctor and get pills.

            Sure I’m right with you on the big evil corporations. But just as in the case of  McDonald’s if all these people didn’t prefer fast food there wouldn’t be all these factory farms and E. coli outbreaks.

            I don’t take any medications whatsoever. Unless I am getting paid to and then its for a short period of time. So many people take these drugs day after day. They are the ones getting the toxic effects.

            But some drugs may actually help people in that case I’m helping. But most of these drugs are to give people peace of mind and make money for the drug companies.

          • Ted Heistman

             Drugs that are actually meant to help people with serious conditions like cancer and AIDS could potentially fuck me up. Because these are designed to do dramatic things to your body. So I avoid them. But my sense from doing all the studies I have done and talking to other people is that most of these pills don’t really do anything. But there is nothing in it for me to recruit anyone. But I did tell a young homeless dude about it once and he was able to get off the street.

          • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

            Dude, I dig your contributions and I’ don’t really care if you offer you body to Big Pharma, that’s your karma.

            But the reason you did it was the money and the article promotes the money and fun to be had as a Gimme pig. I’d like to counter that point.

            I worked about 20 years in Big Healthcare, on the psyop side of the biz, often called sales & marketing. Now I know you think you’re getting over on the man; it was designed that way. I know it’s easy money and so far everything been kewl; it was designed that way.

            Hopefully there will be no long term side effects.

            But in every way you’re helping Big Pharma, by doing it and promoting it. And just because sheeple do it, doesn’t make it right or safe.

          • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

            Dude, I dig your contributions and I’ don’t really care if you offer you body to Big Pharma, that’s your karma.

            But the reason you did it was the money and the article promotes the money and fun to be had as a Gimme pig. I’d like to counter that point.

            I worked about 20 years in Big Healthcare, on the psyop side of the biz, often called sales & marketing. Now I know you think you’re getting over on the man; it was designed that way. I know it’s easy money and so far everything been kewl; it was designed that way.

            Hopefully there will be no long term side effects.

            But in every way you’re helping Big Pharma, by doing it and promoting it. And just because sheeple do it, doesn’t make it right or safe.

          • Ted Heistman

             Well, if you like my stuff I am open to donations.

          • Ted Heistman

             Well, if you like my stuff I am open to donations.

          • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

            Ok, here’s my donation:
            After I quit whoring for Big Healthcare full time, I would let them rent me for $2000 a day, 30 minimum plus expenses. Mostly psyop stuff for various herds (docs, sales, public) for fun and profit.

            One day I was flying from Hawaii to Munich for gig and I realized I just couldn’t do it any more. I didn’t have to drink their KewlAid, but I felt I shouldn’t brew it either.

            I did my 30 days in the hole and split for Asia, been here almost 5 years now. I ran out of their money a long time ago, but obtaining money form unknown sources is never a problem, but you’ll never know until you try.

          • Ted Heistman

             Well that’s cool.

  • Ago

    Hey Ted, I’d totally be down to do something like this but as a chick I’m a little reluctant. What would you say is the M:F ratio in these things? Do women have to bunk with guys? Do they do background checks on guinea pigs? You mentioned an ex-con so maybe not.

    • Ted Heistman

       They do have studies just for women. They also have studies for both men and women, but they never put women and men in the same rooms and they have separate showers. The ratio varies but its usually men out number women by quite a bit, but most of the Staff working there are women so you won’t be that outnumbered. Its kind of a college dorm type atmosphere, except no partying and lots of staff around. They do not do any type of criminal background check and none of the staff you directly work with know your last name. if you click on the website I linked to there is a directory of studies in different states and you can find facilities in your area and if they have any studies for healthy females.

      Its good to call to get the latest updates.

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        So, I got around to actually clicking the link and noticing this comment, so that pretty much answers my question. If there’s any other info you want to toss out, that’d still be good though.

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        So, I got around to actually clicking the link and noticing this comment, so that pretty much answers my question. If there’s any other info you want to toss out, that’d still be good though.

      • Ago

         Thanks for your response and for this article! This is something that I might consider after a little more research.

        • Ted Heistman

           No problem. It can get you out of a jam thats for sure. I am using the money from this most recent study to get an apartment. I am going through a break up and had no place to stay. So it has the double advantage of providing room and board for a couple weeks plus providing me with a deposit and first and last months rent for a new place.

  • guest

    Are you given any information about the trial before? Would they tell you if it is a trial for a cancer drug, or do you find out afterward? 

    • Ted Heistman

       Yeah, I actually forgot to mention that as a step in the process. They tell you a little bit on the phone and then before the physical you sign a consent form that they read aloud to you, which tells you what the drug is, what its for, what are the potential side effects. If you feel uncomfortable with it you are free to turn it down.

      This is days before they give you the drug.

    • Ted Heistman

       Yeah, I actually forgot to mention that as a step in the process. They tell you a little bit on the phone and then before the physical you sign a consent form that they read aloud to you, which tells you what the drug is, what its for, what are the potential side effects. If you feel uncomfortable with it you are free to turn it down.

      This is days before they give you the drug.

  • Gailviolin

    So interesting Ted. Always wondered how these things worked exactly. 

    • Ted Heistman

       Hey Thanks Gail. Thanks for stopping by!

    • Ted Heistman

       Hey Thanks Gail. Thanks for stopping by!

  • cha

    This is dangerous. I used to write ads for these companies and had to quit because  of too many stories of people having bad side effects. It happens down the road, not immediately. Be careful.

  • cha

    This is dangerous. I used to write ads for these companies and had to quit because  of too many stories of people having bad side effects. It happens down the road, not immediately. Be careful.

  • Rash

    I rather spend my time learning a skill, so I can take care of myself 

  • Rash

    I rather spend my time learning a skill, so I can take care of myself 

  • Duh

    You can make a lot more money in car sales. The lab coats can test on themselves. This is stupid. 

  • Calypso_1

    The grapefruit thing is actually not odd at all.  Grapefruit interferes with a liver enzyme (CYP3A4) that is involved in the metabolism of many exogenous drugs.  They may be more or less efficacious depending on the nature of the pharmacokinetics occurring with the particular drug.

  • Calypso_1

    The grapefruit thing is actually not odd at all.  Grapefruit interferes with a liver enzyme (CYP3A4) that is involved in the metabolism of many exogenous drugs.  They may be more or less efficacious depending on the nature of the pharmacokinetics occurring with the particular drug.

    • Ted Heistman

       Yeah, I know. But from another perspective it is odd. Also they tell you not to eat Seville oranges which no one knows what that is.

    • Ted Heistman

       Yeah, I know. But from another perspective it is odd. Also they tell you not to eat Seville oranges which no one knows what that is.

      • Calypso_1

        Same thing as grapefruit – sufficient amounts of dihydroxybergamottin.
        Very sour.

      • Calypso_1

        Same thing as grapefruit – sufficient amounts of dihydroxybergamottin.
        Very sour.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      A few years back they were wondering why the hell grapefruit juice was selling so well.

      Eventually they realized that all these soccer moms were using to potentiate their Xanax.

      As someone once said “Warning labels are a good place to look for where to start tinkering”.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      A few years back they were wondering why the hell grapefruit juice was selling so well.

      Eventually they realized that all these soccer moms were using to potentiate their Xanax.

      As someone once said “Warning labels are a good place to look for where to start tinkering”.

  • Calypso_1

    I’d like to point out how bewildering it is for a physician to have someone come in for treatment that has or recently had unknown drugs in their system (or worse a history of multiple exposures).  That’s if they even tell you.
    The potential for this affecting standard treatment protocols with absolutely no reference for interactions with other drugs is risky. 

  • Calypso_1

    I’d like to point out how bewildering it is for a physician to have someone come in for treatment that has or recently had unknown drugs in their system (or worse a history of multiple exposures).  That’s if they even tell you.
    The potential for this affecting standard treatment protocols with absolutely no reference for interactions with other drugs is risky. 

    • Ted Heistman

      I really doubt it. OK so if these drugs are so powerful why do doctors prescribe so many of them?

      So give me an example of a common drug that a person can take at a small dose one time, that will have serious interactions with another small dose of a drug taken a month later.

    • Ted Heistman

      I really doubt it. OK so if these drugs are so powerful why do doctors prescribe so many of them?

      So give me an example of a common drug that a person can take at a small dose one time, that will have serious interactions with another small dose of a drug taken a month later.

    • Ted Heistman

       Here’s where your whole premise is flawed. A lot of these are radio label studies and they track them through your system and release you when you have gotten the drug out of your system.

    • Ted Heistman

       Here’s where your whole premise is flawed. A lot of these are radio label studies and they track them through your system and release you when you have gotten the drug out of your system.

  • sonicbphuct

    This is interesting. I had a friend that worked at one of the major drug companies in the application support group for this “Electronic Data Capture” for human studies. One of their jobs was to write stored procedures to “clean up” the study data outside the application, and I remember them talking a lot about deleting “adverse event pages” . When I saw that in your article, I immediately flashed back to those conversations. It was all supposed to be some secret thing because they weren’t supposed to do that. Apparently, the software had to somehow be approved by the FDA so that it could produce the “study documents” with an official audit trail and they couldn’t have an anonymous agent modifying the data. When they left that job, they had trained 25 people how to do it and written a bunch of little scripts for doing “back end changes”.

    You’re most likely correct in figuring the doses / compounds aren’t that high impact, but something someone once told me makes me too jittery to give this a go (baring a bad situation) – they said, “Never trust a doctor, they bury their mistakes.” After hearing from my “back-end changer” [ that term always had me rolling ], I suspect there’s a lot of truth to it.

  • sonicbphuct

    This is interesting. I had a friend that worked at one of the major drug companies in the application support group for this “Electronic Data Capture” for human studies. One of their jobs was to write stored procedures to “clean up” the study data outside the application, and I remember them talking a lot about deleting “adverse event pages” . When I saw that in your article, I immediately flashed back to those conversations. It was all supposed to be some secret thing because they weren’t supposed to do that. Apparently, the software had to somehow be approved by the FDA so that it could produce the “study documents” with an official audit trail and they couldn’t have an anonymous agent modifying the data. When they left that job, they had trained 25 people how to do it and written a bunch of little scripts for doing “back end changes”.

    You’re most likely correct in figuring the doses / compounds aren’t that high impact, but something someone once told me makes me too jittery to give this a go (baring a bad situation) – they said, “Never trust a doctor, they bury their mistakes.” After hearing from my “back-end changer” [ that term always had me rolling ], I suspect there’s a lot of truth to it.

    • Ted Heistman

       Some places are real big on security and don’t allow phones or laptops with cameras.

  • Aram Jahn

    I enjoyed reading this article and lately – ‘cuz I’m an older white male with a strong Humanities background (in other words: broke) – I have gotten into a couple of minor studies, strictly for the do-re-mi cashola. What a world. 

    This article reminded me of Jim Hogshire’s book Sell Yourself To Science!

  • Aram Jahn

    I enjoyed reading this article and lately – ‘cuz I’m an older white male with a strong Humanities background (in other words: broke) – I have gotten into a couple of minor studies, strictly for the do-re-mi cashola. What a world. 

    This article reminded me of Jim Hogshire’s book Sell Yourself To Science!

    • Ted Heistman

       I’ll check out the book thanks. I will say one thing I’ve had much more demeaning jobs.

    • Ted Heistman

       I’ll check out the book thanks. I will say one thing I’ve had much more demeaning jobs.

  • http://twitter.com/mattstaggs Matt Staggs

    Damn, Ted! This is some legit reportage. Great work. LOVED this piece.

    • Ted Heistman

       Thanks Man More to come! How was Comicon?!?

    • Ted Heistman

       Thanks Man More to come! How was Comicon?!?