Debunker Takes on ‘Ancient Aliens’ in New Video

I always kind of liked the “Gods from Outer Space” mythology propagated by writers like Erich Von Daniken and Zecharia Sitchen: it’s a perfect hybrid of science and religion, a wondrous answer to our deepest existential quandaries. It’s not necessarily comforting, mind you, but it’s relief to think that we’re not alone and that we’re here for a reason. Of course, if that reason is to serve as meat-slaves to Zeta Reticulans,  then we’ve got an entirely new problem.

However, liking the mythology doesn’t mean I necessarily believe it. I think it’s possible that we’ve been visited by intelligent non-human entities from space (or time, or some other dimension), but for a scoffer like me, the old adage “seeing is believing” holds true. I’ve just not seen any compelling evidence. (I’d certainly like to, though.)

I’m not really in the debunking business (whatever gets you through the night, brother), but this video targeted at the Ancient Aliens television program is pretty compelling. Be warned, though: it’s pretty long.

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  • BunkersTrust

    I didn’t watch this, but in another one the whole Alien Visitor thing kept popping up repeatedly and without much more evidence than conjecture. All the shows are designed to milk that conjecture for a profit by selling several thousand minutes of commercial time thus far. As well as promoting the Ancient Alien biz: books, vidz, conferences and the like.

    Oh that is nice work if you can get it.
    And you can get it — if you try.

  • BunkersTrust

    I didn’t watch this, but in another one the whole Alien Visitor thing kept popping up repeatedly and without much more evidence than conjecture. All the shows are designed to milk that conjecture for a profit by selling several thousand minutes of commercial time thus far. As well as promoting the Ancient Alien biz: books, vidz, conferences and the like.

    Oh that is nice work if you can get it.
    And you can get it — if you try.

    • Matt Staggs

       A lot of this stuff results from a genuine lack of understanding of the cultural context of the art these guys use as proof that aliens have been here. It’s easy to think that everything looks like a jet, rocket, astronaut or ancient computer when you’re a 21st century amateur historian. I’m not in any way an expert of any kind in pretty much anything, mind you, but I took a bunch of art history classes in college (I was a painting major for about three years) and tend to be kind of skeptical by nature. Cool idea, though. Gods from Outer Space? Ancient Egypt? My brain could slip into this kind of fevered imagining like a warm bubble bath.

    • Matt Staggs

       A lot of this stuff results from a genuine lack of understanding of the cultural context of the art these guys use as proof that aliens have been here. It’s easy to think that everything looks like a jet, rocket, astronaut or ancient computer when you’re a 21st century amateur historian. I’m not in any way an expert of any kind in pretty much anything, mind you, but I took a bunch of art history classes in college (I was a painting major for about three years) and tend to be kind of skeptical by nature. Cool idea, though. Gods from Outer Space? Ancient Egypt? My brain could slip into this kind of fevered imagining like a warm bubble bath.

      • Monkey See Monkey Do

        Yeh these guys on ancient aliens are a joke and they turned what might have been a legitimate thoery into a farce. (Some episodes were good to watch stoned though ;)) If seeing really is believing for you Matt. Smoke some DMT. While you might not see little green men you’ll definetley encounter beings. I’ve always thought it could be revealing for how some people experience aliens and alien abductions (not discounting the possibility of it having occured in the physical world)  maybe these experiences have validity in other real worlds that can only be percieved by adjusting our percieving apparatus, to make what is already all around us more apparent.

        • Matt Staggs

          “maybe these experiences have validity in other real worlds that can only
          be percieved by adjusting our percieving apparatus, to make what is
          already all around us more apparent.” – Good point.

      • http://2012diaries.blogspot.com tristan eldritch

         “My brain could slip into this kind of fevered imagining like a warm bubble bath.” 

        I’ve never been able to articulate my feelings about the ancient astronaut hypothesis with any precision, but yeah, that’s pretty much it!  I recently came across a quote from Eliphas Levi that sums up my feelings about a lot of these kinds of things: “To enjoy illusions, yet not to be their slave….such is the Great Secret of Magic.”  I think you have to view the ancient astronaut hypothesis both as an extremely intriguing possibility, albeit one with little or no corroborating evidence, and as a brilliant contemporary popular mythology, whose particular era of ascendancy was the Fortean/weirdness boom of the 70s.  As a mythology involving explicit belief in otherworldly intervention in human affairs, the ancient astronaut hypnosis may ironically have brought many people closer to the mindset of our ancestors than the dry rationalism of the academic experts ever could.

        The Ancient Aliens series is fair game, though – its just tacky, bad television.  The AA documentaries of the 70s were cool – they had outer space cats like Nimoy or the Shat to narrate, atmospheric synth-heavy soundtracks, and a general vibe of kitsch spirituality going for them.  The current Ancient Aliens series is just bad, overbearing infotainment crap – not even good for toked up viewing.  Okay, definitely watchable after a toke, but no more.

      • http://2012diaries.blogspot.com tristan eldritch

         “My brain could slip into this kind of fevered imagining like a warm bubble bath.” 

        I’ve never been able to articulate my feelings about the ancient astronaut hypothesis with any precision, but yeah, that’s pretty much it!  I recently came across a quote from Eliphas Levi that sums up my feelings about a lot of these kinds of things: “To enjoy illusions, yet not to be their slave….such is the Great Secret of Magic.”  I think you have to view the ancient astronaut hypothesis both as an extremely intriguing possibility, albeit one with little or no corroborating evidence, and as a brilliant contemporary popular mythology, whose particular era of ascendancy was the Fortean/weirdness boom of the 70s.  As a mythology involving explicit belief in otherworldly intervention in human affairs, the ancient astronaut hypnosis may ironically have brought many people closer to the mindset of our ancestors than the dry rationalism of the academic experts ever could.

        The Ancient Aliens series is fair game, though – its just tacky, bad television.  The AA documentaries of the 70s were cool – they had outer space cats like Nimoy or the Shat to narrate, atmospheric synth-heavy soundtracks, and a general vibe of kitsch spirituality going for them.  The current Ancient Aliens series is just bad, overbearing infotainment crap – not even good for toked up viewing.  Okay, definitely watchable after a toke, but no more.

        • Matt Staggs

           This kind of stuff is exactly why I like contributions from you when I can get them.

        • Matt Staggs

           This kind of stuff is exactly why I like contributions from you when I can get them.

        • BrianApocalypse

           It’s like a mythology you can kind of participate in (which is also what I consider large chunks of conspiracy theory to be.)

  • BrendanBabbage

    Even in the “Ancient” world man was amazed that, seemingly, he went from essentially an animal overnight into a ‘civilized’ being with cities and trade and language.  The earliest cities were PLANNED also, not growing as later cities even legendary ones like Rome did in later ages.

    But I’m not going to debate or watch this “De-Bunker’s” FROGwash….

    IMO if these turds had any balls they’d de-bunk the “Holocaust”…hehehe

    no, I don’t dispute it, but IMO a “De-Bunker” to muddy the waters is good.  It was a lifetime ago and they keep talking about it and using it again and again and again…

  • BrendanBabbage

    Even in the “Ancient” world man was amazed that, seemingly, he went from essentially an animal overnight into a ‘civilized’ being with cities and trade and language.  The earliest cities were PLANNED also, not growing as later cities even legendary ones like Rome did in later ages.

    But I’m not going to debate or watch this “De-Bunker’s” FROGwash….

    IMO if these turds had any balls they’d de-bunk the “Holocaust”…hehehe

    no, I don’t dispute it, but IMO a “De-Bunker” to muddy the waters is good.  It was a lifetime ago and they keep talking about it and using it again and again and again…

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