One-Third Of American Young Adults Have No Religious Affiliation

More from the latest Pew survey on faith — religiously devout Americans are dying off in droves, the New York Times writes:

Nearly one in five Americans say they are atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular.” This is a significant jump from only five years ago, when adults who claimed “no religion” made up about 15 percent of the population [and] a seismic shift from 40 years ago, when about 7 percent of American adults said they had no religious affiliation.

Now, more than one-third of those ages 18 to 22 are religiously unaffiliated. These “younger millennials” are replacing older generations who remained far more involved with religion throughout their lives. “We really haven’t seen anything like this before,” said Gregory A. Smith, a senior researcher with the Pew Forum.

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  • Nephilim1012

    Religion, the opiate of the masses.  Maybe our youth decided to give up this drug.  It is, and always has been about control, at least on this side of the globe.

    Had a delivery driver tell me the other day that he believed every word in the bible was true.  I changed the subject before he started speaking in tongues.  Every word…  Just goes to show that if you don’t know your history you act like you were born yesterday!

  • Nephilim1012

    Religion, the opiate of the masses.  Maybe our youth decided to give up this drug.  It is, and always has been about control, at least on this side of the globe.

    Had a delivery driver tell me the other day that he believed every word in the bible was true.  I changed the subject before he started speaking in tongues.  Every word…  Just goes to show that if you don’t know your history you act like you were born yesterday!

    • Josh

      The one doesn’t follow from the other. In fact, I’ve actually never met a pentecostal, though I have met thousands of people who believe in biblical infallibility.

      I also doubt that most people who quote Marx on religion know their history, particularly in something so basic as the context of the quotation. Have you ever read Marx? Do you have the foggiest idea what he means by “opiate”? Because his meaning is rather different from yours. Granted, both of you are as condescending, but at least he goes about his condescension with a functioning intellect.

      • Nephilim1012

         Actually yes I have read it, understand his context and mine and stand by everything I said.  And really do not see where you challenged anything I said.  I have been studying religion and history for over 35 years but perhaps you are a better authority strictly on the basis of your being offended.

        It’s all about control, deal with it.  Not only that but anyone who believes in the Bible’s “infallibility” is ignoring, either knowingly or out of complete ignorance, the Catholic origins of the present day version of this book.  Nor are they aware of the much older inclusions which where adopted almost exclusively from older pagan religions.

        Opiate of the masses.

        But while we are doing this one-upmanship have you ever read the Maleus Malificarum?

      • Nephilim1012

         Actually yes I have read it, understand his context and mine and stand by everything I said.  And really do not see where you challenged anything I said.  I have been studying religion and history for over 35 years but perhaps you are a better authority strictly on the basis of your being offended.

        It’s all about control, deal with it.  Not only that but anyone who believes in the Bible’s “infallibility” is ignoring, either knowingly or out of complete ignorance, the Catholic origins of the present day version of this book.  Nor are they aware of the much older inclusions which where adopted almost exclusively from older pagan religions.

        Opiate of the masses.

        But while we are doing this one-upmanship have you ever read the Maleus Malificarum?

        • Josh

           No, I have not, and, upon looking into it, I find that it is irrelevant. Priests have said stupid things in the past, and, up to this day, say stupid things.

          However, what Marx says is relevant. By opiate he means a painkiller, killing the pain caused by modern society. While Marx does think of it in terms of control (he thinks of everything in terms of control–no society, not even the eastern ones, escapes this), he doesn’t think of it in terms of addiction, which is what I gathered you were talking about in your post.

          Going back to what you said about religion, I’m not sure how the Catholic origins of the Bible have anything to do with it. Certainly, it poses a problem to protestants, but, being Catholic, I see no issue. Of course, Catholics are not, strictly speaking, a “People of the Book.” We believe in inerrancy, not infallibility.

          Nor do we see the world in this weird revisionist and logophobic way. By which I mean, we see time in a semi-cyclical way, and accept all four causes. You, on the other hand, have the worldview of a protestant, taken to its logical end. When you say that our practices are adopted “almost exclusively” from pagan practices, you are making the assumption, which seems to have worked out rather poorly from my viewpoint, that all causes are either material or efficient. Given that, you have answered your own question before asking it. Of course Christianity is false in your mind, for it is derivative, and can be nothing else, because only two of Aristotle’s causes are possible. With access to all four causes, I can explain the similarity between paganism and Christianity in terms of final causes.

        • Josh

           No, I have not, and, upon looking into it, I find that it is irrelevant. Priests have said stupid things in the past, and, up to this day, say stupid things.

          However, what Marx says is relevant. By opiate he means a painkiller, killing the pain caused by modern society. While Marx does think of it in terms of control (he thinks of everything in terms of control–no society, not even the eastern ones, escapes this), he doesn’t think of it in terms of addiction, which is what I gathered you were talking about in your post.

          Going back to what you said about religion, I’m not sure how the Catholic origins of the Bible have anything to do with it. Certainly, it poses a problem to protestants, but, being Catholic, I see no issue. Of course, Catholics are not, strictly speaking, a “People of the Book.” We believe in inerrancy, not infallibility.

          Nor do we see the world in this weird revisionist and logophobic way. By which I mean, we see time in a semi-cyclical way, and accept all four causes. You, on the other hand, have the worldview of a protestant, taken to its logical end. When you say that our practices are adopted “almost exclusively” from pagan practices, you are making the assumption, which seems to have worked out rather poorly from my viewpoint, that all causes are either material or efficient. Given that, you have answered your own question before asking it. Of course Christianity is false in your mind, for it is derivative, and can be nothing else, because only two of Aristotle’s causes are possible. With access to all four causes, I can explain the similarity between paganism and Christianity in terms of final causes.

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    nearly 80% of uk teens are now atheist / agnostic . although the most common british name is now mohammed, which is alarming

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    nearly 80% of uk teens are now atheist / agnostic . although the most common british name is now mohammed, which is alarming

    • Jin The Ninja

      your racist posts are so tiresome.

    • Jin The Ninja

      your racist posts are so tiresome.

      • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

        ok then smart arse how is that racist ? 

      • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

        ok then smart arse how is that racist ? 

        • Jason2kwhatever

          is this the line for hatin on jin ? can i join? should report the guy i see him everywhere on here and he always pisses me off with his bullshit 

          • Jin The Ninja

            well, at least i provoke a reaction;)

        • Jin The Ninja

          targeting and singling out british asians is not racist?
          and you have quite a post history full of inaccurate depictions and racist carictures/not to mention several posts as an apologist for the british empire. i have a long memory;)

          • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInBrIt

            mohammed is the number one male child name in uk. fact
            this is worrying because i value my british heritage. fact
            you go out of your way to play the racism card at every oppertunity.

          • jason2kwhatever

            boom give it up jin 

          • Jin The Ninja

            nah.

          • Jin The Ninja

             “mohammed is the number one male child name in uk. fact
            this is worrying because i value my british heritage.”

            racist, nationalist, protectionism IS in fact racism.

            nice work.

          • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkIngbRiT

            well im clearly not the only one here who is tired of you jin. your attitude is unbelievable you’re arguing against a fair few people on this site about lots of things. you are just arrogant end of

          • Jin The Ninja

             well clearly you have some aptitude for trolling. and if calling you on repeated bullshit is arrogant, so be it.

          • Andrew

            Most of these posts are happening at about the same time, so it’s more likely that you are the only one here who is “tired” of Jin and are just using multiple names.

          • Andrew

            Most of these posts are happening at about the same time, so it’s more likely that you are the only one here who is “tired” of Jin and are just using multiple names.

          • Jin The Ninja

            arigato gozaimasu >,< P!

          • Andrew

            Gern geschehen.

          • Andrew

            Gern geschehen.

          • Samjones

            hes not even arguing really. i havent seen him put forward his point except for the odd bit here and there. It seems he/she is more about just trying to make everyone look bad, Jin if you are going to argue some ones point at least do it with a hint of respect and/or dignity.

          • Samjones

            hes not even arguing really. i havent seen him put forward his point except for the odd bit here and there. It seems he/she is more about just trying to make everyone look bad, Jin if you are going to argue some ones point at least do it with a hint of respect and/or dignity.

          • JaceD

            Bahahaha!
             
            “arguing against a fair few people on this site”?

            Your multiple personalities don’t count.

          • JaceD

            Bahahaha!
             
            “arguing against a fair few people on this site”?

            Your multiple personalities don’t count.

      • Happydays

        jin whenever i see you post you’re contradicting someone or just being a dick. what he said was a fact and its your own fault you believe a political ideology is in fact a race. i suggest you educate yourself instead of chanting the racist word 

      • Happydays

        jin whenever i see you post you’re contradicting someone or just being a dick. what he said was a fact and its your own fault you believe a political ideology is in fact a race. i suggest you educate yourself instead of chanting the racist word 

        • jack the lad

          Lolol apply cold water to burned area 

        • jack the lad

          Lolol apply cold water to burned area 

          • Jin The Ninja

            burned? that was like a spark at midnight in winter in nunavut. i’ve seen snow burn brighter and hotter than that.

        • jack the lad

          haha dude that made my day 

        • jack the lad

          haha dude that made my day 

          • Jin The Ninja

             mine too;) trolls are lol worthy.

          • happydays

            haha ahh stop trying to save face

          • Jin The Ninja

            if you say so…;)

        • Jackthelad

          yeah thats why you dont act high n mighty on the web

          • Jin The Ninja

             nah. i’d rather.

        • Peaceisrelevent

          lmao dude that made my day i always see jin commenting on everything and everyone nice to see some one put the sad bastard in his place

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol honestly? if you think that was a proper telling off, then you’re really quite dumb.

        • Jin The Ninja

          i only call it like i see it. and before you tell someone to “educate” themselves, try learning to write properly.

          • sloth love

            And there is a capital A at the beginning of a new sentence 

          • Jin The Ninja

            stylistic (un) convention.

          • Happydays

            hahaha ahh second fail 

          • Jin The Ninja

            you can count? i am surprised.

          • Happydays

            can you count how badly you’re getting your ass handed to you by like 5 people 

          • Jin The Ninja

            you mean one person, under 5 screennames, and no, my ass is still in tact. an ass handing requires intelligence. lacking….

      • Bring on the end

        you son just got annihilated 

      • Bring on the end

        you son just got annihilated 

        • Jin The Ninja

          not really, nor do i need to login under various anon names to like my own posts…

    • DrDavidKelly

      People are worried about some aspects of the Muslim faith being inconsistent with Western democratic values.

    • DrDavidKelly

      People are worried about some aspects of the Muslim faith being inconsistent with Western democratic values.

  • emperorreagan

    The troubling part of the trend is that it isn’t just a move towards secularism – it’s an across-the-board decline in civic engagement.  The decline of the church’s influence is fine with me – I just think something needed to fill the space in communities.  

    The world is probably headed towards more turmoil in the coming decades.  I think people, generally, will come to regret the decline of community involvement.

  • emperorreagan

    The troubling part of the trend is that it isn’t just a move towards secularism – it’s an across-the-board decline in civic engagement.  The decline of the church’s influence is fine with me – I just think something needed to fill the space in communities.  

    The world is probably headed towards more turmoil in the coming decades.  I think people, generally, will come to regret the decline of community involvement.

    • bobbiethejean

       Well, on the upside, crime, divorce, unwanted pregnancy, abortions, drug use, and illiteracy rates will probably fall dramatically seeing as how all those things are higher among believers.

    • bobbiethejean

       Well, on the upside, crime, divorce, unwanted pregnancy, abortions, drug use, and illiteracy rates will probably fall dramatically seeing as how all those things are higher among believers.

      • emperorreagan

        I doubt it.  Those are correlated with poverty.  The US’s current social & economic policy trends are likely to exacerbate those problems.

      • emperorreagan

        I doubt it.  Those are correlated with poverty.  The US’s current social & economic policy trends are likely to exacerbate those problems.

        • bobbiethejean

           Actually some of them are going down. Crime, teen pregnancy, and abortions are going down. Don’t know about drug use and illiteracy though.

        • bobbiethejean

           Actually some of them are going down. Crime, teen pregnancy, and abortions are going down. Don’t know about drug use and illiteracy though.

          • emperorreagan

            The misery index tends to lead the rise in crime – so one would expect the crime rate to begin to rise again in the short term.  The graying of the US may dampen the effect though, since we’re demographically fairly different than the 1970s America where the misery index was very high.  The elderly simply commit fewer crimes.  

            Another mitigating factor in the current is the spike in incarceration rates since the late 1970s.  The US imprisons fairly large swaths of its most vulnerable and poor populations throughout much of their youth.  

            A third factor is that crime is under-reported by victims in the neighborhood of 30%.  Police departments and politicians, with the rise of crime statistics and metrics, have a strong incentive to massage crime rates to make themselves look better.  There’s a very strong incentive to downgrade crimes (which thereby reduces the crime rate) – for instance, gang graffiti, if even reported, can be marked down as a code violation and the building owner ordered to paint it over – or ignore it altogether.

            The decrease in teenage pregnancy and abortion has a clear correlating factor – a steady increase in the use of hormonal birth control among teen girls with about half of sexually active teenage girls using it according to the most recent data from the CDC.  

            My statement about the long term economic and social policy trends relates to increasing social pressures on vulnerable populations.  

            The long term economic trend is that the US is losing its dominant position economically and is entering a long term decline.  

            The long term social trend has been towards austerity on social programs – after decades of being painted as corrupt and in need of reform and being used as the first place to cut costs – is likely to accelerate as budgetary pressures grow.

            I don’t think religion and it’s long term trends are really going to matter, compared to other factors.

          • emperorreagan

            The misery index tends to lead the rise in crime – so one would expect the crime rate to begin to rise again in the short term.  The graying of the US may dampen the effect though, since we’re demographically fairly different than the 1970s America where the misery index was very high.  The elderly simply commit fewer crimes.  

            Another mitigating factor in the current is the spike in incarceration rates since the late 1970s.  The US imprisons fairly large swaths of its most vulnerable and poor populations throughout much of their youth.  

            A third factor is that crime is under-reported by victims in the neighborhood of 30%.  Police departments and politicians, with the rise of crime statistics and metrics, have a strong incentive to massage crime rates to make themselves look better.  There’s a very strong incentive to downgrade crimes (which thereby reduces the crime rate) – for instance, gang graffiti, if even reported, can be marked down as a code violation and the building owner ordered to paint it over – or ignore it altogether.

            The decrease in teenage pregnancy and abortion has a clear correlating factor – a steady increase in the use of hormonal birth control among teen girls with about half of sexually active teenage girls using it according to the most recent data from the CDC.  

            My statement about the long term economic and social policy trends relates to increasing social pressures on vulnerable populations.  

            The long term economic trend is that the US is losing its dominant position economically and is entering a long term decline.  

            The long term social trend has been towards austerity on social programs – after decades of being painted as corrupt and in need of reform and being used as the first place to cut costs – is likely to accelerate as budgetary pressures grow.

            I don’t think religion and it’s long term trends are really going to matter, compared to other factors.

          • bobbiethejean

            Excellent points. You’ve made a fair case, I would say.

          • bobbiethejean

            Excellent points. You’ve made a fair case, I would say.

  • Antediluviancurrent

    Or any affiliation for that matter.

  • Hadrian999

    can you blame them, look at all the rampant douche baggery  perpetrated by from outright violence to hypocracy of ted haggard or the just plain money grubbing smarmyness of people like joel osteen.
    that along with the heavy handed race baiting identity politics that many “religious” groups get into and the anti science anti education agenda of american right wing religious preach can you fucking blame the young for wanting no part of it

  • Hadrian999

    can you blame them, look at all the rampant douche baggery  perpetrated by from outright violence to hypocracy of ted haggard or the just plain money grubbing smarmyness of people like joel osteen.
    that along with the heavy handed race baiting identity politics that many “religious” groups get into and the anti science anti education agenda of american right wing religious preach can you fucking blame the young for wanting no part of it

    • Josh

      The quantity of punctuation is significantly less than it ought to be, and its placement is less than acceptable. Before you start rallying around the cause of “education,” perhaps you ought to make some attempt to appear so yourself, so as to be a good representative.

    • Josh

      The quantity of punctuation is significantly less than it ought to be, and its placement is less than acceptable. Before you start rallying around the cause of “education,” perhaps you ought to make some attempt to appear so yourself, so as to be a good representative.

      • Nephilim1012

        Condescend much?  And you accused me of this behavior.

        • Josh

          You don’t appear to know what condescension is. Good spelling and punctuation ought to be the most basic products of any education. A particular view of history (or at least your particular view of history) does not share this quality.

        • Josh

          You don’t appear to know what condescension is. Good spelling and punctuation ought to be the most basic products of any education. A particular view of history (or at least your particular view of history) does not share this quality.

  • Josh

    Perhaps “dying off” is a poor choice of words. Traditional Catholics, Mormons, and Muslims will one day rule the world, by virtue of populating it. Whether this is good or bad (though I am of the opinion that it is one third good), it nonetheless stands to reason that apples never really fall far from the tree–and the three groups mentioned do have a great number of apples per tree.

  • Josh

    Perhaps “dying off” is a poor choice of words. Traditional Catholics, Mormons, and Muslims will one day rule the world, by virtue of populating it. Whether this is good or bad (though I am of the opinion that it is one third good), it nonetheless stands to reason that apples never really fall far from the tree–and the three groups mentioned do have a great number of apples per tree.

  • geminihigh

    The Age of Pisces draws to a close, while Aquarius’ dawn is just on the horizon… (relatively) soon we won’t be seeing too many more Jesus fish on cars and merchandise. I was told by a New Ager once that I was “definitely an Indigo Child.” I waded through a sea of New Age bullshit online to find out what that meant, discovering that I indeed posses many “Indigo” traits, and also learned about “Crystal” children, more commonly known in mainstream nomenclature as the millennials. Most of the websites I looked at were made in the mid to late 90s,had slightly varying themes and occasionally conflicting stances, but all were consistent in mentioning common traits about Indigo and Crystal kids; they have no use and quite a disdain for conventional religion, traditional sexual classifications, and don’t really care for our current societal systems. We now have the statistics to back those claims. Perhaps the New Age crowd has been right all along… but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Those of the old guard religions are definitely shitting their pants and cursing their dying God(s) in grief, knowing that their age is over, and that the new, godless, crystal kids will be entrusted to take care of them in their old age… by collectively applying shovels to the back of their antiquated, obsolete-religion-loving-skulls.

    Anton LaVey was almost correct when he proclaimed that all religions were coming around to his form of Satanism. I believe that those religions are truly dying, with many older members adopting Satanic (that’s the hedonistic type just in case you think I mean devil worship, which is really a form of Christianity) principles and acting accordingly, but really its the number of kids who seem to be BORN Satanists/Libertines/Crystal/whatever that is changing the game. There are still many children who follow traditional patterns of thought, belief, and behavior, but as Gregory A. Smith states in the article ” We really haven’t seen anything like this before,”

    And Love Will Steer the Stars….
    Hail Satan!

  • geminihigh

    The Age of Pisces draws to a close, while Aquarius’ dawn is just on the horizon… (relatively) soon we won’t be seeing too many more Jesus fish on cars and merchandise. I was told by a New Ager once that I was “definitely an Indigo Child.” I waded through a sea of New Age bullshit online to find out what that meant, discovering that I indeed posses many “Indigo” traits, and also learned about “Crystal” children, more commonly known in mainstream nomenclature as the millennials. Most of the websites I looked at were made in the mid to late 90s,had slightly varying themes and occasionally conflicting stances, but all were consistent in mentioning common traits about Indigo and Crystal kids; they have no use and quite a disdain for conventional religion, traditional sexual classifications, and don’t really care for our current societal systems. We now have the statistics to back those claims. Perhaps the New Age crowd has been right all along… but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Those of the old guard religions are definitely shitting their pants and cursing their dying God(s) in grief, knowing that their age is over, and that the new, godless, crystal kids will be entrusted to take care of them in their old age… by collectively applying shovels to the back of their antiquated, obsolete-religion-loving-skulls.

    Anton LaVey was almost correct when he proclaimed that all religions were coming around to his form of Satanism. I believe that those religions are truly dying, with many older members adopting Satanic (that’s the hedonistic type just in case you think I mean devil worship, which is really a form of Christianity) principles and acting accordingly, but really its the number of kids who seem to be BORN Satanists/Libertines/Crystal/whatever that is changing the game. There are still many children who follow traditional patterns of thought, belief, and behavior, but as Gregory A. Smith states in the article ” We really haven’t seen anything like this before,”

    And Love Will Steer the Stars….
    Hail Satan!

    • Hamididdy

      Please, explain the falsity of this;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

      You can choose to not believe in God, atheism, or Satanic worship. It’s all good, but yea…Muslims and Islam.

      I won’t respond to anything. The video and the numbers speak for themselves.

      Goodnight! =D
      Allahu Akbar. 

    • Hamididdy

      Please, explain the falsity of this;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

      You can choose to not believe in God, atheism, or Satanic worship. It’s all good, but yea…Muslims and Islam.

      I won’t respond to anything. The video and the numbers speak for themselves.

      Goodnight! =D
      Allahu Akbar. 

  • Wine Lady

    I am curious as to the reasons listed by the 18-22 yr. olds for not being affiliated with any religion?

  • Wine Lady

    I am curious as to the reasons listed by the 18-22 yr. olds for not being affiliated with any religion?

    • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

      It also could mean anything – affiliated in what way?

  • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

    It won’t be what the left want, though. Despite leftard fantasies, peoples views on social issues aren’t determined by their religion.

  • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

    It won’t be what the left want, though. Despite leftard fantasies, peoples views on social issues aren’t determined by their religion.

  • Jin The Ninja

    i don’t get down with apologists for empire, or people who target muslims. sorry to disappoint;)

  • Jin The Ninja

    b/c i don’t like bullshit? fine, i’m a whinger. you’re am asshat and under anon to like your own posts…clever!

  • mark87

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    yeah but you go out of your way to try and be the lefty hero holding the racist banner. its really sad i cite a well known fact and the only word you hear is “racist” there’s no arguing with someone as self righteous as you. besides i thought you were against fascism ? cant get more fascist than islam  

  • Jin The Ninja

     figure it out.

  • Jin The Ninja

    cite a fact including a link, and explain to me why that is worrisome.
    nothing is more fascist than empire or neo-colonialism, you should know that, as a brit.

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    well i like computers. i like reading. i like tv. i like free speech. where ever islam goes these disappear. now idk where you live but in my country there has been a significant rise in crime and pushes to institute sharia law on the populace. several terrorist attacks commited by muslims and so on. if your home town slowly became a no go area for white black jewish or indian people im sure you would be concerned. islam / muslims ARE NOT A RACE I CANNOT BE RACIST HOW YOU NO UNDERSTAND THIS ?

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT
  • JaceD

    What a load of rubbish. Where ever Islam goes, your right to do whatever it is you want to do disappears? What does that even mean? Who is going to force the UK to take up sharia law? Dude, get of the pot, it’s making you(((PaRaNoId)))

    I’m interested in these terror attacks though, can’t have been that major.

  • JaceD

    What a load of rubbish. Where ever Islam goes, your right to do whatever it is you want to do disappears? What does that even mean? Who is going to force the UK to take up sharia law? Dude, get of the pot, it’s making you(((PaRaNoId)))

    I’m interested in these terror attacks though, can’t have been that major.

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    anyways now i have work so ill leave you to bite someone else’s head off. i recomend you read up on what the word “race” means however, and also please try to get your head around facts being facts. if i say jewish people commited war crimes im not racist if i say the usa commits war crimes i am not racist if i say islam commits human rights abuses you say i am racist…. im sure ill see you again on another post

  • Jin The Ninja

    absolute bastions of intellect and progressivism. not to mention “oliver” was the most popular name in the UK.
    anglo-indians and mixed asians have been in the UK since at least the 1830s. thousands of mixed race people
    running around the UK don’t even know they are mixed race. in fact london has one of fastest growing mixed race populations in the world. some neighboorhoods are 4% bi racial people. so what is REALLY the problem here? the UK colonised india/pakistan, annexed egypt and overthrew the gov’t of iran and you’re surprised people immigrate to the UK? being british does not mean “white” nor does it mean “anglo-saxon” or “celtic” (in fact fewer than 14% of all English people are of celtic descent).

  • Jin The Ninja

    nothing compares to the colonial atrocities of England. chew on that for awhile.

  • Jin The Ninja

    nothing compares to the colonial atrocities of England. chew on that for awhile.

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    because im 200 years old obviously. 

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    because im 200 years old obviously. 

  • Jin The Ninja

    so the queen isn’t the head of state of canada, australia, new zealand and a number of other nations?
    history can be found in a book, doesn’t take much to get a library card…

  • Jin The Ninja

    so the queen isn’t the head of state of canada, australia, new zealand and a number of other nations?
    history can be found in a book, doesn’t take much to get a library card…

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    i have two thanks,istill dont see where this fascist british rule is. better yet i dont get why your trying to give me a history lesson, a lot has changed in two centuries 

  • SmOkInGtOkInGjOkInGbRiT

    i have two thanks,istill dont see where this fascist british rule is. better yet i dont get why your trying to give me a history lesson, a lot has changed in two centuries 

  • Jin The Ninja

    indian independence- 1947. am i doing the math wrong? doesn’t seem like 2 centuries to me.

  • Jin The Ninja

    indian independence- 1947. am i doing the math wrong? doesn’t seem like 2 centuries to me.

  • Jin The Ninja
  • Jin The Ninja
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