China To Mandate All Internet Users To Register With Their Real Names

The days of secretly being a dog on the internet may not last much longer. Via the The Next Web:

The Chinese legislature has approved a proposal that includes stipulations for real-name registration requirements for Internet users, state media reported on Friday.

The new rules [are] meant to “enhance protection of personal info online and safeguard public interests.” It’s worth pointing out that the exact timing and the implementation of these regulations have yet to be sketched out.

The most likely solution will be the requirement of showing government-issued identification at the point of sale for Internet service providers, both fixed-line and wireless. Internet cafes will likely feel the squeeze if restrictions force them to keep close track of their clientele, and dissidents will be hurt by the new restrictions, as it will become more difficult for them to operate anonymously online.

20 Comments on "China To Mandate All Internet Users To Register With Their Real Names"

  1. lazy_friend | Dec 29, 2012 at 5:13 pm |

    As if there is no way to hack computer systems. Lots of identity theft to come.

    • BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm |

      not mention the fact that in China
      1.3 billion people share 500 surnames
      the surname Wang includes over 100 million people

      • lazy_friend | Dec 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm |

        They will have to start giving people unique number identifiers as last names instead of traditional surnames. The stereotype about asian’s being adept at math will get another reinforcement.

        • BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 8:22 pm |

          they’ve all got numbers
          just like the US
          but what they don’t have that Uncle Homeland has
          is a national database that is instantly searchable for names & numbers
          in the hands of the local cops

          • lazy_friend | Dec 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm |

            I get it. But i am saying scrap the surnames all together and replace them with family numbers eg: Chang143566.
            Ridiculous but so are governments, so they might bite on the idea . Have a happy new year.

          • BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 10:21 pm |

            > But i am saying scrap the surnames all together and replace them with family numbers

            Mao actually tried that
            but it obviously didn’t work
            the Chinese are too practiced at avoiding control

          • lazy_friend | Dec 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm |

            I didnt know that it has been tried before. Messed up.

  2. “where never is heard a discouraging word” – China’s attempt to suppress dissent by making it impossible to publicly discuss problems with their system guarantees that dissent and unreported problems with government will reappear from unpredictable people and places they won’t be able to suppress because the problems will be too big to hide. Smart people don’t want to have the news that their house is on fire suppressed before they find out about it.

    Processes that don’t have negative feedback elements built into them generally go out of control sooner or later. Watching China go out of control may be interesting from a safe distance. Given that they have a nuclear arsenal, there may not be one. Of course, China isn’t the only nation that’s trying to implement this kind of stupid.

    A government that is willing to wait to find out who the serious dissenters are when the dissenters show up in the offices of politicians and top bureaucrats with guns is asking for trouble.

    • BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm |

      in my 4 years in China
      I have seen multiple instances in China
      where public protest have changed local government policy
      I’ve even seen one mini-revolution where the local government was literally run out of town
      and a new, locally elected government replaced it

      I also know how hard it is to censor the Chinese language
      where any sound can mean 10 to 20 different things
      and puns can say things that can’t be said straight

      but there’s a few things about China I’m sure of
      the Chinese have way more personal freedom than the average American
      and that Chinese are not easily subdued by authority
      because they’ve had about 5000 years of practicing resistance against it
      Song Jiang, a Song Dynasty leader of the Liangshan outlaws
      has been a cultural hero for ~1000 years

      • Apathesis | Dec 30, 2012 at 10:06 am |

        I don’t doubt what you are saying at all, but what personal freedoms in particular do the Chinese have that we don’t?

        • BuzzCoastin | Dec 30, 2012 at 8:29 pm |

          you’d have to be here to get the scene
          but in general,
          they completely disregard any law they think impertinent
          things like tax evasion are openly discussed and practiced
          and there’s very few cops around to enforce the little laws
          (China has 4 times the US population, but same number of cops)

          the idea that they don’t protest the actions of their government is absurd
          I’ve watched their protests change public policy here
          sometimes in radical ways

          the Chinese have about 5000 years experience dealing with governments
          a lot of their literature, like “The Outlaws of the Marsh” 水浒传
          extol the virtues of the righteous rebel
          and every dynasty fell because of the incompetence of the government
          so to them
          the whole thing is a well worn cycle of change

          • Apathesis | Dec 30, 2012 at 10:21 pm |

            I wish people here were like that. People are so afraid to break bogus laws they disagree with or to cheat a system that is stealing from them.

  3. BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 7:48 pm |

    the same thing goes in the land of the free
    you must have a name and an address in order to have an IP address
    and like in China, if one wants almost anonymous surfing one uses a VPN
    gonna use a library to surf, gotta library card?
    all cloud data in the US is subject to unwarranted search and seizure
    and Hollywood has been persecuting Internet users for years

    so why the story about the lack of freedom in China, a place you don’t live?
    so you’ll overlook the fact that Der Homeland is just like China

    BTW: you have no idea about what really goes on in China
    unless you’ve spent some time there and see how things really work

    • BunkersTrust | Dec 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm |

      It seems pretty silly to defend a country as repressive as China; they have a horrible reputation when it comes to human rights.

      • BuzzCoastin | Dec 29, 2012 at 9:42 pm |

        I’m not defending China’s government
        I’m pointing out that Der Homeland & China’s governments
        operate like all governments everywhere

        the only major freedom Homelanders have over the Chinese
        is the freedom to criticize their government publicly in the media
        and they can “elect” politicians from one of the 2 major parties
        otherwise, you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference between them
        since both governments are oligarchies

        • Apathesis | Dec 30, 2012 at 10:03 am |

          Do you feel like our right to free speech sometimes actually works against us? Protest seems to have more productive results in countries that don’t have our First Amendment rights. Then again, it could just be that Americans are lazy and apathetic and the state just uses the police force to shut down anyone who dares care enough to dissent against the powers that be. Kind of silly that the Westboro Baptists are allowed to spread their hateful screed but protests against the corrupt institutions that run this country are met with oppressive force.

          • lazy_friend | Dec 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm |

            Cliche time: Life is stranger than Fiction.

          • BuzzCoastin | Dec 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm |

            > Do you feel like our right to free speech sometimes actually works against us?

            it’s about the only freedom Americans have or support
            (besides the right to carry a gun)
            and it creates the illusion of freedom

            there’s barely a right to peaceable assembly for protest
            due process, jury trial and privacy are toast
            AMENDMENT XI
            which forbids the US from imposing it’s laws outside the US
            isn’t even considered

            in fact
            the Constitution hasn’t really been in force since Lincoln

          • Apathesis | Dec 30, 2012 at 10:11 pm |

            I agree! It really does create this illusion of freedom, so much so that people here get disgusted with protesters, telling them to shut up and hoping the police pepper spray them. “How dare you exercise your rights!,” they must be thinking.

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