Deporting Piers Morgan

There are plenty of stories about the WhiteHouse.gov petition to have Piers Morgan deported (66,000+ at latest count as I write), but none that I have seen discusses whether or not the United States government could deport the television personality just for making on-air remarks that gun-loving Americans deem unpatriotic (or worse). Any suggestions as to legal theories for possible grounds for kicking our poor old Piers? For those of you not yet familiar with the controversy, here’s some video of his comments followed by Politico‘s report:

CNN anchor Piers Morgan isn’t benefiting from much Christmas cheer, at least according to one measure: The number of signers on a petition urging the White House to deport Morgan has skyrocketed by late Tuesday afternoon to nearly 66,000 names.

The petition, created last week, had 65,887 supporters around 5 P.M. Tuesday and is posted on the White House’s official petition site. It slams Morgan for comments he has made regarding gun control in the wake of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School that killed 20 children and six adults.

“British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment,” the petition to the Obama administration reads. “We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights and for exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens.”…

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  • echar

    I could give two shits what that namby pamby piece of shit thinks. Deport him off the planet, like yesterday.

    • 5by5

      So in your world, the 2nd Amendment is inviolable, but the 1st Amendment? Oh fuck that….

      The Constitution says that “Congress shall make no law restricting freedom of speech…” NO LAW. That would include deportation laws with respect to voicing an opinion, moron.

      No such similar caveat accompanies the 2nd Amendment. Moreover, it refers to a “well-regulated militia” in other words, the National Guard. Not every Tom, Dick and Dipshit out there who trolls his way through a gun show so he can get an AK and lay down suppressing fire to hunt a fracking squirrel.

      Maybe we should do something like say, focus on the fact that this Do-Nothing Republican Congress has failed to approve ANY nominees to head the ATF. So even if we wanted to rationally enforce the current law, we don’t have a permanent administrator in the post to run the office in charge of such things. All because the GOP is out of their minds because Black Jesus is in the damned White House, and it broke their brains.

      Piers Morgan isn’t my “fave” mainly because he’s as much of a corporate tool as the rest of that lot. However he is quite logically correct to regard the notion that somehow CROSSFIRE makes children safer as ridiculous.

      • echar

        not at all… I just can’t stand the cocky talking head. I place him in the same category as Justin Bieber. Which is unwanted imports, who are put on heavy rotation, and are faker than a three dollar bill.

        As for gun control… I don’t care what anyone on TV or the internet says about it. *click click* GET OFF MAH LAND!

        • Tuna Ghost

          Silly! You don’t own any land. And nobody is going to listen to you. Not anybody, ever.

          • mannyfurious

            But he’s so tough, can’t you tell….

          • echar

            You just made me cry. Got a sock puppet for me to wipe my tears on?

          • mannyfurious

            Why? You own guns and property. Men like you don’t cry.

          • echar

            How insensitive!

          • echar

            lol.. hipsters. So quaint. Don’t you have some fashion to dote over? Run along and find the next obscure thing.

          • Tuna Ghost

            Oh I don’t find the next obscure thing to fawn over, my friend. I decide what that next thing is. That’s how real hipsters operate, guy!

          • echar

            Be a dear and fetch me a fuck, so I can give one… After your done with that auto-fellatio of course.

            This is what I was referencing, your supreme self important intellectualness

            New Freeland

            http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b5108dcd4a/new-freeland-from-mrshow_fan

          • Tuna Ghost

            your inability to tell when someone is kidding you has been noted

          • echar

            Bah!

      • http://twitter.com/stevets stevets

        They both are inviolable. The military and the president are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution. Not just the second amendment and not just the first. I would say that deporting a foreigner is the least severe consequence for attacking any part of the Constitution. Especially if that foreigner is from Britain if you know what I mean.

        Sign the Whitehouse petition to repeal the second amendment so we don’t have an issue. http://wh.gov/QVSq

        • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

          “attacking” the Constitution (highly debatable here) is protected as a First Amendment right. You simply can’t deport people because they say something reasonable and popular that a large number of people agree with. It’s not like he’s making threats or objecting to the Constitution itself. At the end of the day, this is a free speech issue, not a gun issue. Morgan has no power to control how guns are regulated or not, but he has the power of speech which must be preserved.

        • 5by5

          He didn’t attack the Constitution. Don’t be stupid. It’s a living document. You can tell because there are AMENDMENTS. As in, “to amend”. As in, “We thought about it some more, and we think this should be changed a bit.” Like slavery. Or women’s right to vote.

          My point is simply that of the Amendments, the 1st is the ONLY one which says flat-out, “Congress shall make no law” abridging it in any way. It is meant to state firmly that this is THE most important right, above all others. The right to speech. NOT to be changed.

          And when anyone is daft or asinine enough to want to deport someone just for what they say, then the simple fact is, THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

          • Tuna Ghost

            I attacked the constitution once. It was a fair fight, I had a chainsaw and it had a nasty head cold.

      • Bob_Dole

        “Not every Tom, Dick and Dipshit out there who trolls his way through a
        gun show so he can get an AK and lay down suppressing fire to hunt a
        fracking squirrel.”

        I’m definitely going to use ‘Tom, Dick and Dipshit’ in my vocab from now on. Bravo sir, great point, put humorously.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    I thought they were already reviewing a deportation application for Morgan filed by Britain related to a possible indictment connected to the Leveson inquiries.

    But, shiiiiiii. . . . if they wanted to set a precedent for voting people off the island on this side of the pond, they’d better think twice. Most of the people who signed this thing are Red Staters, and although they’re not known for being good with numbers, the *ss whipping Romney took in the last election might be a clue that their point of view is not particularly popular any more.

    • Tuna Ghost

      It should be noted that practically zero republicans saw Romney losing as not only possible but likely, despite several very good reasons to do so. They were all asking themselves “how did this happen” afterwards as if it were some great mystery, which leads me to believe they don’t really have their finger on the pulse of the nation.

  • Tuna Ghost

    On the one hand, I hate this “We the People” thing because it shows everyone how fucking stupid most of the population really is, but on the other hand I love it because it shows everyone how fucking stupid most of the population really is.

    • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

      I wouldn’t say “everyone” sees how stupid most of the population is. The truly stupid are in a News Hole where this kind of shit is their reality.

    • echar

      Assuming those people are stupid is setting yourself up, big shot. Not be a dick or anything, but your ignorance is showing.

      • Tuna Ghost

        Yeah thanks buddy I’ll take my chances

      • Jin The Ninja

        so is yours.

        • echar

          lol… the same can be said of you. This is like an ignorance Mexican stand off.

          • Jin The Ninja

            the same cannot be said of me. refer to comments above.

          • echar

            This must be opposite day.

          • Jin The Ninja

            nah, just feeding the troll-like the signs caution not to.

          • echar

            When you point the finger, you have three pointing right back at you. Unless you point with all 4 fingers, but that would just be weird.

          • Calypso_1

            i see that you are unfamiliar w/ the kamae no kata of ninja pointing mannerisms.

          • echar

            bwahahahaha

          • Jin The Ninja

            i point with all 10.

  • charlieprimero

    It is irrational to advocate less government in the area of gun control, then advocate more government in the area of immigration.

    • Tuna Ghost

      Goddam, young Stalin was a handsome fucker, wasn’t he? Like a train-robbing hipster.

    • dwinkle

      The government not only has the obligation to defend my rights to own a gun, it has the obligation to keep illegals out.

      • Jin The Ninja

        no such thing as an ‘illegal.’

  • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness

    If you seriously want to stop gun violence, we really need to be talking about the US military budget and small arms trafficking around the world. As much as I would like for privileged white boys to stop murdering white children within the borders of the Fatherland, I feel that gun control would only have worked in the past, and that shutting Pandora’s box will, like the myth, only trap human hope.

    No mention of school shootings would be complete without adequate remembrance of Kent State. While it’s difficult to tactfully mention the true purpose of the second amendment without an accompanying NSA dossier, I feel it never the less necessary vote with my voice that the operative word in the statute isn’t “regulated” or “security”; it’s “free”.

    FYI: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free
    state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
    infringed.

    • DeepCough

      Lotta people don’t realize that the Supreme Court is unbelievably liberal and interpretative of the Second Amendment, because nowhere does it say that a singular citizen has the right to own a firearm(s), but it is okay for the state to establish (more or less) “well regulated milita[s],” of which the United States has a fuckload at the local, state, and federal level.

      • alizardx

        The real Constitutional meaning of the 2nd Amendment may be a can of worms nobody wants opened. IIRC, there was a SCOTUS decision in the 1930s that suggested that the intent of the writers of the 2nd Amendment was to make private ownership of military-grade weapons legal and the reason for this is to allow citizens to protect themselves from the Federal government.

        Even the people who run the NRA might have NIMBY feelings about having neighbors with artillery, crew-served heavy machine guns, and nukes.

  • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness

    If that guy is on a work visa, you’re damn right he should be deported. That is some of the shittiest reporting I have ever seen. He doesn’t even let his guest panel speak. Murica has it’s own belligerent windbags and they need jobs! We don’t need some shitty toothed Nigel to yell at us. Yelling at each other is what we do best. Buy local.

    But that’s not why the Muricans want him out. See, he was starting to make sense in criticizing the dominant culture. Suppress, repress, repeat is the patriot’s prayer wheel. If that doesn’t work-> deport or extradite and torture (depending on Otherness ranking).

    • 5by5

      Good lord, if shitty reporting were the standard for deportation, fully 99.9999999% of the corporate media would be bounced. If you want to advocate for better journalism, that’s one thing (that I’d support), but his simply expressing an opinion actually doesn’t bar him from that field. Neither does stating facts and saying point blank that one side is INCORRECT in their opinions because of those facts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=647058614 Will Coles

    I’m not even American but I noticed the contradiction here! “We don’t like we he said”, hmmm…freedom of speech?! As for being a bad reporter, you have HUNDREDS of them already so it’s a bit late to start complaining. Deport him because he’s on a working visa? Why? He’s doing the job he was brought over to do (be a hack that inflames public opinion) so he’s not failing at anything AND he’s paying a higher tax rate too.

    This is misdirection, it’s got the dumb masses rallying behind the flag against someone (A FOREIGNER!) that is pointing out the reason for gun massacres (guns) when they should be debating the ACTUAL issue (guns.) I wouldn’t be surprised if the NRA was behind this, it’s a great PR move.

  • Apathesis

    Piers is a cunt. This was literally the most obnoxious panel discussion I’ve ever seen. No one could make their point without Piers talking over them. He’s monopolizing the conversation so only his viewpoint is presented.

    • Tuna Ghost

      I’ve called the newspapers to deliver the shocking story of a television host being obnoxious! I’ve been on hold for six hours, but I’m sure they’re just preparing the cameras or something!

    • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

      all tv hosts behave like that. their producer is shouting in their ears to keep the conversation lively, which means not allowing a coherent, convincing argument to stand, thus preserving the appearance of neutrality on the part of the network.

      • Apathesis

        I know, and it’s obnoxious. I mostly singled him out because he was the topic of discussion.

        Bill O’Reilly and Chris Matthews also drive me fucking insane.

  • “Big” Richard Johnson

    Thank god for the right to bear arms. My .45 means I never have to wait in line, just as the Founding Fathers intended!

    • “Big” Richard Johnson

      Who down voted me?! IMy .45 means I’m never wrong!

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.fischer.73 Eric Fischer

        Me and my Desert Eagle .50 say you are wrong.
        Got a problem with that?

        • 5by5

          My bazooka does.

          Ok, its bazooka gum, but still.

          Stop measuring each other’s dicks. You’re both small.

  • alizardx

    Freedom of speech means the freedom to be stupid in public. In fairness to Piers Morgan, he is simply repeating the same Party Line the rest of the legacy media is pushing.

    I suspect that the wealthy owners of the mass media pushing “BAN GUNS NOW!!!” talking points would rather rely on gun prohibition than their temporary political alliance with the political Right for their personal security.

    • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

      gun control is not gun prohibition

      • alizardx

        you can TRY to explain this to the “left”-centrists I follow on Twitter.

      • 5by5

        Precisely.

    • rtb61

      Mass media is driven by advertising dollars. Who spends the most in advertising dollars gun manufacturers or those who want gun control. The wealthy owners of mass media are wealthy because mass media sells advertising that is their sole motivation, they can afford all the privatised security they need for themselves and their family and screw everyone else.
      By the way, yes, gun manufacturers can outspend those seeking gun control by thousands if not tens of thousands to 1.

  • mannyfurious

    I think it’s sort of ironic and frightening that there are disinfo regulars who actually support deporting someone because you don’t like what that person said. It’s frightening because I generally view the disinfo readership as much more intelligent and nuanced than most of the other morons in this country, but perhaps I’m wrong. It’s ironic because most of this country would absolutely despise what disinfonauts type on these boards. So all these people would be the first ones deported if this sort of thing was the norm.

    I’m generally against “gun control” (although I think it’s smallminded to be completely for or against complex ideas), but I have noticed that a good portion of disinfo readers hump their precisious little guns no less than the mouth breathing hicks we all pretend to despise.

  • Guest

    Damn, it would seem like the cat is out the bag and some Americans have eventually realised that Piers Morgan is a complete and utter c*nt,
    Please, whatever comes of this, DO NOT DEPORT HIM BACK TO THE UK… we
    don’t want him either, unless of course it’s to face charges for insider
    dealing & phone hacking.

  • Tuna Ghost

    You know what I miss? This may sound like a “back in my day we had REAL disinfo comments” thing, but I miss when a story would come along that was just begging for a witty zinger. So much so, in fact, that everyone would just give their best zinger rather than actually tackle the story. We all got to laugh at how clever we all were and people would surprise you; the dumbest conspiracy theorist goon would throw a zinger that might make you do a spit-take and your respect for that poster might rise by a fraction. I miss that. I hope that happens again soon.

    • dumbsaint

      The piscine Ghost of Disinfos past is right. Even the trolls were of a better quality. Like that guy who’d lovingly crafted an entire persona for their crusade against that time Crowley wrote some poem.

    • echar

      I think we’ve all been deported by this Morgan character’s ego.

  • 5by5

    The real irony is that the same people who have their panties in a bunch worrying about the “gov’t comin’ ta take their guns,” are the same goobers who voted in Defense hardliners for the last 60 years who spent so much on the military budget (55% of all gov’t spending) that there is literally NOTHING that your guns (or even a 50 cal) will do to stop this gov’t if it ever did decide to come a-knockin’.

    You’ve got your little arsenal? How charming. The gov’t has TANKS, and BOMBERS, and DRONES, and NUKES. Your pop gun ain’t shit.

    If the gov’t wants to come in, they’re coming in. And you nimrods were the ones that armed THEM to the teeth.

    Shoulda listened to the peaceniks, douchebags….

    • Freeman

      youre actually so wrong. the military is not automotized as of yet. it takes men. and in a game of numbers as that situation would be, the military is comprised of a tenth of a percent of the total population. those drones still need orders, and tanks need drivers, and drivers need orders. a few million compared to the militarys numbers couldnt add up. they would be more efficient … they could use fear to their advantage, they have strategy down, but in a situation where we are a sea descending on a small population, the advantage is to the people. dont let your fear take hold of you. always do whats right in the face of fear, thats the difference between cowardice and courage.

  • dwinkle

    It was never meant to be serious, morons.

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