Insane Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theories

Disinfonauts, you know who these people are. Drown them out. Gawker compiles some of the worst, tasteless sentiment from the fringes of American society:

If you’ve got a certain kind of Facebook friend — an End-the-Fed, mechanical-elves, Monsanto-causes-cancer, Nibiru-fearing cousin, say — you may have already heard the “news” that Newtown shooter Adam Lanza’s father was a key witness in a congressional hearing about a banking scandal. Or the theory that the new Batman movie predicted the shooting. Or that The Hunger Games did. None of these conspiracy theories are true, obviously. But they’re all over the internet.

As usual, it only took a couple of days for the weird online gutter-spaces where the far left, far right, hyper-libertarian and new age kooks all hang out to gurgle out a handful of theories about the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., that ended with 27 deaths. They are, each, stupider than the last, though no less fascinating, in a car-crash way, than they usually are…

[check out the insanity at Gawker]

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  • http://twitter.com/DrinkyMcGee Daniel Cecil

    I’ve been doing my best to insult as many Infowarriors as possible. They are a disease.

    • BrianApocalypse

      Good work.

  • charlieprimero

    Nice how they lump “End-the-Fed” and Monsanto in with Nibiru and Machine Elves, because, ya’know, anybody who wants to stop paying taxes to private banks and opposes corporate monopoly is crazy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alex.w.parks Alex Parks

      And, of course, school shootings have everything to do with DMT smokers. Don’t quote the elves unless you know what they are. This is disgusting. I don’t think I’ll be returning to Disinformation after this one. They’ve really lost their edge.

      • Matt Staggs

        Your contributions (three comments, one of which you deleted, and two of which are bitter complaints about content and both of which were registered today), will be missed terribly. Majestic is free to contribute to the conversation here. If you find the fact that it doesn’t reinforce your particular reality tunnel too disturbing to bear, then this may, indeed, not be the right place for you.

        Edit: I see you’re in high school. This site is probably older than you are.

        • http://disinfo.com/ Majestic

          Charlie et al, I agree that the gawker lead-in paragraph unfairly lumps in libertarians who object to the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank acting as the US central bank, the revelations gained from ingesting DMT, etc., to the lunacy of the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories that the gawker piece is really about. I do think that we need to drown out the tasteless crap being posted on the social networks and certain websites about Sandy Hook.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            What? No smearing of Preppers? Didn’t they get the media talking points?

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Feast your eyes on this odd shit http://www.geekrest.com/2011/12/dark-knight-rises-viral-campaign-bane-map-gotham-city/ Let’s see if this is scrubbed down the memory hole..

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urrRcgB581w Weirder Yet
            From the above link. (Yes I know the LIBOR stuff is discredited)
            “Fathers of slain children do not go
            around joking and laughing the next day this guy is a fraud and he is an
            actor and so is the aunt that spoke before him and this entire shooting
            is a scam to take away gun right for a much bigger global domination
            plan.the father of the shooter was also to testify over the libor
            scandal.as he was VP of GE and Webber Paine company that suites were
            filed against and documented at stanford advocates web site,both aurora
            and Sandy Hook were referenced in the Batman move dark knight rises”

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Label me crazy

            http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

            But here is another example of Sandy Hook being placed on the map. Reminds me of this, again call me kooky…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rsMG2hHsLo

          • http://twitter.com/DrinkyMcGee Daniel Cecil

            I don’t think you’re crazy. I think you’re a vile human being who lacks both rational thought and empathy.

          • Opposite Day

            You wouldn’t know rational thought if it hit you in the face.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Wow! Good one! How could Rational thought hit me in the face?

          • echar

            [Edited] this is too weird

            Act as though nothing is here

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Apologies I thought you were talking to me Opposite Day. Cheers.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Nice! Give me an example of wisened sage of the interwebs.

          • BrianApocalypse

            The connection to the LIBOR scandal is nothing but speculation. There is no evidence for it.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            You are right about LIBOR, but what about the odd coincidence of Sandy Hook being present in Batman? Odd don’t you think? What about predictive programming or the kids dad obviously laughing and then shifting quick into stage mode in the above video? Just points to ponder, I’m not saying anything one way or the other, but the pattern of exploiting these events and then immediately calling for gun regulations is apparent. Remember the UN treaty they were trying to push through previously near the batman shooting?

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Also considering the magnitude of LIBOR it seems more publicity is needed, sadly it is coming in the form of mis/disinformation.

          • BrianApocalypse

            It is odd. These little oddities do keep reoccurring, especially when related to big, archetypically powerful cultural icons/fiction. My personal feeling is it has something to do with the collective unconscious, but there’s just as much proof for that as any other explanation really.

          • Calypso_1

            [Disclaimer: Camron, the following comment in no way is intended to invoke any disharmony with you, disparage your presented thoughts on the subject or to engage in extended conversation, substantive or personal, but rather to insert a point that is
            perhaps relevant for consideration in the nature of events such as these]

            Outside of the possible nature of an ‘operation’, active within
            or post to the event, one should consider the number of individual actors –
            opportunists, con-artists, etc. which would seek to exploit such a circus.

            Without a doubt there are political factors/ramifications to such events that represent byzantine structures and complex power dynamics. When panning for clues it is also wise to reserve attributions of power & influence to extraordinary agencies when there
            are probabilities of more mundane conveyance to consider.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Understandably. But given the apparent facts that the promotional materials and the film are date stamped months before hand and given the multiple previous instances of mass public carnage supposedly due to a “lone” nut cracked out on potentially psychosis inducing meds, and in light of the immense and statistically improbable displays of foreknowledge in a multitude of “theaters” such as the X files Lone Gunmen episode, the ignored presidential daily bulletins, foreknowledge of Building 7′s destruction as presented hours beforehand on multiple stations as per the script, put options, etc ad infinitum one would definitely have to be a “coincidence” theorist in order to ignore the again highly improbable connection between all of these instances and the immediate drumming up of support for new and increasing gun regulation while the DHS itself is purchasing billions of rounds of ammo, increasing drone surveilance and removing restrictions on NDAA. As commissioner Gordon in an obvious romana clef advised Detective Blake in the Dark Knight Rises, “You’re a detective now son, you’re not allowed to believe in coincidence anymore.” Perhaps that is a salient point you should also ponder. Thank you for your polite tact and diplomacy.

          • Calypso_1

            I don’t disagree with the strangeness of the Batman correspondence. I was more specifically referencing the ‘actor’ father.

            Overall, without trying to ascribe direct causal relationship with the oddities
            in films and real life, I tend to file these in the ‘synchromysticism’ category. I certainly can ascribe my own notions/theories to such things but one thing I have chosen to do about them in my own thought process is not to give them power if they are indeed from a source that is not beneficial to myself or humanity. If these are forces operating at such a nefarious level then much of their power would be derived from the ability to instill the ideas in others. I can be an observer but not a resonator. It is my observation that within myself, even certain forms of overt resistance is an element of resonance that gives power to that which I would seek to lessen.

            Trust me, I am an old hand at many forms of ponderings, and as I said was not
            discrediting that line of thought. Parallel processing of ideas through many
            viewpoints is a tenant I hold dear.

            PS: I Thought the Dark Knight Rises sucked balls. : )

        • http://krowface.com/ Jason Thompson

          Good show! /golfclap

        • Guest

          unliking your fb page, and staying off of this site…nice monsanto and fed reserve propaganda asswipe.

          • Calypso_1

            BRUTAL

          • Matt Staggs

            I think you’re having some problems with reading comprehension. Majestic linked to the article. He didn’t write it…and neither did I, for that matter. I’ve provided some technical assistance that may aid you in keeping your oath to never come back.

          • http://shalilayo.com/ Shalilayo

            Lol! I needed a good laugh!

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.maya.94 Eric Maya

            matt what is the purpose of this before i decide what to think about disinfo. as this is very hypocritical to see on here as it can be very offensive to some of your fans for lumping all people into one bunch.

          • http://shalilayo.com/ Shalilayo

            Is there a translation service available for this website? I think that comment was written in an obscure form of gibberese.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.maya.94 Eric Maya

            i dont understand is anyone on this site even serious about life. what about if some of the fans wrote to russ kick to delete matt and majestic off the payroll would they then be laughing, what i have noticed with admins here is that they are very own the place kind of thinkers.

            they think they run the site when most of us are just here to support russ kick and his great work. but I am beginning to question his choice of team members if people like matt who actively want people to misinterpret and not support him.

            I think maybe Russ needs to know his team members or maybe deduct some money for penalties for being brash to people who are potential buyers. I have supported disinfo and bought and shared books and requested the libraries of my city to buy their works.

            But to see such pompous attitudes. shows a light i dont like to support with my money. I like to boycott even some conspiracy nutjobs too but that is after they are just as insane as bush when you listen to them.

            I changed what I wrote because I don’t understand why they would even post it here in general or the lack of them getting pissed about libor. but disinfo is nothing serious now days. they dont even understand how huge the LIBOR scandal is. and since they are americans they are pretty doomed from it either way. But the blowback is worse for silence if they knew any better.

            So at matt. and admins. if you dont start being more responsive most of us will ditch you guys anyway. I just feel bad for Russ put a lot of work into his vision and people like you guys screw up his image. As for other haters don’t hate disinfo talk to Russ Kick and tell him to watch his admins comments.

            This is a business to expose the crimes and propaganda. And his admins seem to be on the wrong team but maybe thats why Russ isnt really involved here much.

          • http://shalilayo.com/ Shalilayo

            I think you might be taking things a little too personally. Disinfo is bound to post articles you don’t agree with occasionally, and that’s what the comment section is for; to disagree. I think if people tone down their outrage a bit, there might be a completely different atmosphere that supports productive, mutual understanding. For the posters who start threatening to never come back and calling the admins names, I have no sympathy for how they were treated in return. If you don’t like the stories being posted, start posting some of your own. I’ve noticed that the admins on this site are perfectly reasonable when a person talks to them like an adult. It’s hard to take someone seriously when they are inventing new curse words to swear at you.

            P.S. I was only joking about the translation comment. I’m not really a grammar Nazi. Yes, it is true; I don’t really take anything seriously, lol.

          • Matt Staggs

            Thanks. You nailed it.

          • Matt Staggs

            Eric, I *think* I get what your talking about, but look, I didn’t write this piece, and for that matter, Majestic only excerpted from the original article posted at Gawker. Those aren’t his words. I’m very responsive to our visitors. I’m not online all the time. I have to sleep occasionally. ;) There will be occasional pieces that anger you and other readers, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. If you don’t find something that upsets you now and again, then I’m not doing my job. It’s up to you to decide whether this is a place that you want to be or not.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.maya.94 Eric Maya

            Yes I did at first think that this was insulting the supporters of disinfo. But it seems that it was calling people to recognize the propaganda against counter culture.

            The major problem which is why I deleted the first one. Is simply that you admins are posting your personal views on behalf of disinfo. This is fine if you are not being pompous and making this like some hipster cafe shindig that you can tell people not to enter.

            Yes the article is very misleading so users thought that you were dissing them. Which it was misinterpreted but then Matt you came out very strong saying that they don’t need to be here just like you said maybe I should think if I want to be here. I don’t think that is what Russ paid you to do.

            Maybe Russ is cynical after years of seeing the movement that still has yet to surface take off. He is one of the pioneers and is a legend for those of us that know what is at stake and what he is trying to do. Unless he got a cold heart and has become like you which I doubt it. I would start thinking about what you write too. I am not talking about your posts other than this one. More about how you deal with some people that comment and misinterpret your steez.

            That’s all you are lucky to have a cool job but that doesn’t give you the right to criticize others and belittle them. That doesn’t look good for disinfo and if you pissed enough people off by your shallow attitudes. you will be just a small zine punk collective and lose your nice job. So think twice before you start to belittle people that support you.

          • Matt Staggs

            Eric, I’m having trouble understanding what your asking, but you should note that I didn’t write the piece referenced.

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          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Obviously designed to distract from the bigger picture. In other news suddenly every politician clamors for “gun’ regulation, never mind the connection between school shootings and psychosis inducing drugs. Heave forbid they regulate Big Pharmacratic control, that would be biting the hand that feeds them after all.

          • Matt Staggs

            I have no idea what this has to do with me.

        • fINtOIL

          BATMAN KILLED THOSE KIDS THIS IS PROOF OF HIS CONSPIRACY
          http://i.imgur.com/NlceX.gif

      • Calypso_1

        My child I believe you fail to realize that you are in fact posting in an arena where the cohort is within the highest percentile of those who ‘know what the elves are’. Your own conflation notwithstanding, I am sure their autosprightlinesses appreciate your noble self-emission towards the defense of their mysterious ways.

  • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness

    Humans are hardwired to see causal relationships just like we are primally driven to recognize faces in random patterns. Seeing as how it helps form the foundation of human reasoning, it’s probably not a bad thing. But just like the Virgin Mary potato chip and the unwashed lucky sports jersey, this tendency of our instincts can lead us far afield from what most would consider a consensus reality.

    This is not to say that people don’t get together and plan on how they are gonna break the law. There is a whole class of laws with which the government (very selectively) prosecutes people for “conspiracy”. The structure of the most dominant institution of our times (Corporatism) is expressly devised to avoid the consequences of laws and court rulings (especially regarding limitations of liability). What exactly does one call a group of people who band themselves together for the purpose of evading the consequences of their actions from the Law?

    Interestingly, we are also hardwired to avoid cultural taboos. In this culture, wondering afield from the consensus reality is an unforgivable flaw. You must be inexcusably deficient.

  • http://shalilayo.com/ Shalilayo

    I’m glad you brought this up, because now I’m not alone in my quest to convince everyone that our government would never lie to us, and that large corporations would never put profits above public safety. I just don’t understand why so many people have such a hard time believing politicians; after all we elected them, so there is no way they would lie to us and sell their votes to the highest bidders. We should just round up all these kooks and put then in FEMA camps, where they belong. I feel nauseous at the thought that there are still people out there who think for themselves. Critical thinking should be punished through the use of neural inhibitor implants.

    Thanks again for helping us all see how silly these nut jobs are who have the audacity to question what they are told.

    • threefourdumb

      Yeah, that’s not critical thinking so much as having a wild imagination, the “conspiracy theories” in the article deserve some mocking. People rationalize terrible things in a lot of way, imagining this was a planned attack is just where some folks go. Not a fan of monsanto either, but gawker is known for keeping its tongue thuroughly in cheek.

      • BrianApocalypse

        It’s part imagination and also I think partly the result of wishing to understand and do something about the state of the world, but feeling powerless to do so. One of the most common activities of conspiricists is “spreading the word”. It can give you the feeling you’re having an effect.

    • BrianApocalypse

      This is the common defense used against people who doubt conspiracy theories. “Oh of course the government never lies!” “Oh everything in the media is true!” etc etc… As if there’s only two possible positions to take, the media narrative and the conspiracy one. Even when rational argument and proof is presented in opposition to conspiracy theory, this nonsensical rationale is wheeled out time and time again as if it’s some kryptonite against skepticism.

      Of course, the irony is lost on most people who use it. How dare we cast doubt and question the “alternative” narrative? Even if it is all made up! Thousands of people swallow conspiracy theories whole with no critical thinking at all. They see a graphic on facebook illustrating bullet-points of some conspiracy theory and re-post it without even checking if it’s true. This is no better than taking the media’s word as gospel.

      • http://shalilayo.net/ Justin Mitchell

        Like every genre in life, conspiracy theorists have their own brand of fundamentalists lumped in with the more critical thinking individuals. I actually do get a laugh out of the majority of conspiracy theories, and attribute most of them to survivalist companies trying to scare people into buying food storage. However, to make a blanket statement in this article that all conspiracy theories are part of a mass delusion by fanatical fundamentalists is going a little too far. Not everything is a conspiracy, but many things are. People who claim to be skeptics of conspiracy theories often don’t seem to be skeptical about the information presented from the media.

        I agree with your other comment about people trying to feel like they are accomplishing something by proselytizing their conspiracy doctrine. It’s easy to feel helpless when you realize the scope of how big the world is in comparison to yourself, and how little your actions actually impact it.

        • BrianApocalypse

          Well I never said all conspiracy theories are mass delusion, there are fragments of truth within the field but they require extreme discernment to find. In my experience, the majority of the audience for conspiracy theory have come to the conclusion they are already ‘discerning’ because they’ve rejected mainstream media, but the process doesn’t end there. Many of the most vociferous opponents to conspiricism are former conspiracy obsessives themselves.

          I usually laugh at the majority of it like you do, but with recent events I’m detecting something happening within conspiracy culture that’s possibly a lot more serious. Maybe I’m getting a distorted view because I look at too much of this stuff, but it seems to me that the Alex Jones brand of gun-totin’, right wing Christian conspiricism could end up spilling over into real world violence, and some of their targets may well be innocent.

  • liquidself

    I don’t know about the gawker article. Admittedly “teh stupid” has ratcheted up a notch since the massacre, but the piece is using a kind of shotgun patchwork kind of approach to slime everyone who is speculating outside of the box on this – everyone who doesn t identify with a right of center neo-liberal reality. At least they are trying to make sense out of what everyone agrees is a senseless tragedy. The attitude seems to be “look at those freaks go! They so crazy.” Also, why take out a hit on Terrence McKenna (machine elves), who is pretty far outside the consensus societal agreement on “reality”, but was always amazingly coherent in his explanations and writings. the batman movie prediction thing they referenced was bad, very bad, but where that stuff sources from is actually pretty intelligent, and draws upon Jungian theory and cultural pop studies simply to point out coincidences – so setting up a straw dog to burn there. If anything, the sheer actual horror of what happened is going to be a huge influence on the U.S. mass consciousness for a long time to come.

  • CosmicAmazing

    Conspiracies don’t happen, nothing to see here. It was the gun’s fault and we need to impose stricter gun laws for criminals to disregard. That will make us so much safer.

  • BuzzCoastin

    there’s a conspiracy in place to make this look like a conspiracy

    • Calypso_1

      …you are probably right.
      that’s the easiest conspiracy of them all and the one Stalin instilled from the top down to such dramatic effect.

  • echar

    It appears the only people conspiring in relation to these events is the media. They continue to sensationalize these events by creating an anti hero. Even though they have been warned it feeds into the problem.

    “How The Media Coverage Of Mass Shootings Makes Everything Worse”

    http://www.upworthy.com/how-the-media-coverage-of-mass-shootings-makes-everything-worse?c=bl3

  • luther_blissett5

    Max Read wants us to believe that either we uncritically accept what corporate media tells us to be the truth without question, or we’re raving lunatic conspiracy nuts who will believe anything without question.

  • Free Radio Revolution

    I feel like a horses ass for the New World Order joke I made. Yesterday on Disinfo –
    THIS IS SO FUCKING CRAZY IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND :
    AURORA AND SANDY HOOK CLEARLY SEEN IN DARK KNIGHT RISES!
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B3UvyKp-aPQ
    Jesus fucking Christ… Alex jones is right!
    They did 911… They can do anything!
    Spread the word!

  • Opposite Day

    Just gonna put this here…

    http://i46.tinypic.com/33duond.jpg

    • Matt Staggs

      False either/or dichotomy.

    • Andrew

      Answer: Neither.

    • Apathesis

      So bogus. Way to pick two extremes.

    • http://shalilayo.com/ Shalilayo

      Why not get a good tazer? Cops sure seem to like them…

  • Calypso_1

    The Hidden Messages in A Nightmare Before Xmas

    SANDY CLAWS – SANDY HOOK

    I say that we take a cannon
    Aim it at his door and then
    Knock three times and when he answers
    Sandy Claws will be no more
    You’re so stupid, think now
    If we blow him up into smithereens
    We may lose some pieces
    And the Jack will beat us black and green

  • Jack Meoff

    Thanks for setting us straight. It’s nice to have an arrogant know-it-all to turn to. Lord knows, we’re just too stupid to figure anything out without help. No go back to sleep, NWO ball-washer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shermfern Stephanie Fern Sherman

    Monsanto is not a conspiracy theory, and they are backed by major players. The Federal Reserve answers to no one, yet now the NDAA proposes that any American can be detained without counsel or trial, so ending it is a conspiracy theory? I see your points regarding the more outlandish to out and out goofball conspiracy theories out there, but they are not all to be lumped together, if you did some more research based on documented facts, the flippant remarks dismissing any truths regarding the real issues needing attention would have either disappeared or been more concise.This is another example of a great way to dismiss and lump anyone who questions into a ‘crazy conspiracy theorist,’
    Disappointing article.

    • Matt Staggs

      Good points, Stephanie, but Disinfo didn’t actually write this article. The part in the block quote is an excerpt from Gawker’s piece, to which we’ve pointed readers. Conflating the NDAA and Monsanto’s dirty dealings with the shooting is a mistake in judgment on the writer’s behalf, but it’s not Majestic’s, it’s Gawker’s.

  • “Big” Richard Johnson

    What do the machine elves have to do with anything? They are pretty nice guys.

  • DeepCough

    My conspiracy theory: sometimes, society purposely fails people just so the free market and government can have something to do.

  • c.wright.thru.u.

    quick question:

    how is it the name “Sandy” comes up in the name for 2 tragic events in such a short time span?

    • Andrew

      Because “sandy” is both a common adjective and a not uncommon name.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jtmelodia Joseph Thomas Melodia

    It can be difficult to tell what the truth is. The left wing media trash the republicans while never critisizing their own and the right wing do the same about democrats. What kind of accurate news is that? Doesn’t that make anybody suspicious about main stream media? I think a person has to be gullible and even childish to believe either of these extreams. However they won’t report on the chemtrails in the sky that are evident to anyone who just watches the skies everyday. Check out “What in the World Are They Spraying” on YouTube. It is a conspiracy theory that you can easily prove to be true to yourself by seeing it with your own eyes.

  • symbiont

    the dmt reference is annoying and ridiculous. but there is some interesting things about these facts sorrounding the sandy hook shooting that just don’t add up. i’ll read the article

  • http://www.facebook.com/jiansheng.yang.9 Jiansheng Yang

    Conspiracy is not a Theory. It is a practice rarely being know by normal stupid general public who struggle with daily living. If you understand a few terminologies you know the truth. They are MK-ultra, subconscious mind programming, mind control, undetectable trauma based mind controlled slave, idea implant, gang-stalking, psychiatrist, medicalized social control, social engineering(model team of Eugenic), so and so. OK then you know the truth, you know that the government is responsible for whole school shootings. Then you know psychiatrist is the hidden evil of whole thing. Then you know slavery is still in practice in modem society. THen you will know even more teams, such as psychiatrist master, controller, handler, even psychiatrist ACT team who stop the victim get help anywhere, and keep the victim living in the dark by totally control their surrounding and daily life through use of 24/7/365 second to second no stopping monitor and order the victim through subconscious communication. There are tons of psychiatrist mind controlled salvers right there ready to do another massacres under the command and instruction of their psychiatrist master.
    It is not a guns fault. It is a government and human problem.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jiansheng.yang.9 Jiansheng Yang

      Visit minddefensecoach.wordpress.com for all the truth you are looking for.