• Ted Heistman

    I really admire his philosophy of life. You know its funny, I didn’t get into his stand up until recently. I was never into fear factor either. Wasn’t really that into the Man show (except for girls jumping on trampolines). I knew him through the UFC. Big fan of the the UFC, probably because I was a college wrestler and I root for the wrestlers. Then I heard he had a blog,(through an anarchist blogger) so I started reading his blog and it seemed like he was oddly enough, interested in a lot of the same things I was. Psychedelics Terrence McKenna, hunter gatherers, Heimo Korth, large predators, weird philosophical shit. I remember his first podcast. Since then its really taken off. I don’t have a TV. its the only program I regularly view, besides South park and UFC fights I watch at bars.

    A lot of people who know me find it odd that I am so into MMA fighting, given my other more esoteric interests. Apparently I’m not the only one though.

    • MoralDrift

      do you care to explain the MMA fascination? I never really understood it….and I always had the sense that there was something quite negative about it, glorifying violence in a very real and intimate way. Of course its no worse than any other violent media and in fact it does require skill and athleticism but to me at least, it seems a very visceral image of what is wrong with our world. I’m certainly open to hearing how it is not or at least….how you find it interesting

      • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        Very good question. Having participated in Martial Arts and MMA the biggest take away for me was that you enter into a personal alchemical alembic through training, removing impurities, facing fears, learning humility, perseverance and the means to cultivate your mind, body, and spirit towards achievement of any desire. Somehow the ability to hunt, protect, defend, & overcome in this type of ritualistic martial dance has transformative potential on multiple levels. In a world where we are literally fed negative mind soup on a continuous drip, to engender our next purchase/pathology, while simultaneously being removed from everyday connection to the Earth and processes of survival, which our agrarian ancestors found commonplace, this romantic notion/impulse to test your wits, strength and spirit against another human being has the overtones of every good mythical quest in each spirited battle and in that sense is satisfying on a deeper level than modern consumer fetishism can supply. Somethings you just can’t purchase, and in a world speeding headlong towards full on digital simulacrum I think it satisfies our instinctual desire to feel alive, alert and ready for the challenges of this world. Just my idiosyncratic two cents.

        • MoralDrift

          Yeah I can see that, maybe its the spectacle associated with it that takes it too far. I think traditional sports also serves this same function but that also has been overly commercialized and for most, is simply an exercise in voyeurism.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            You may appreciate Danielle Bolleli’s thoughts as a martial artist and philosopher regarding MMA. I think it is much more positive than negative though as the knuckleheads really don’t get far in MMA and you can see those with negative personality traits rarely ascend to the pinnacle and if they somehow manage, like Mike Tyson they are consumed by their own unconquered demons in time. In this light the real purpose of martial arts is ever present and available for those who seek the path. “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”

            We all bloom and fade like a sakura blossom, some like to mix it up in the interim is all, as long as they are not aggressing someone who hasn’t willfully consented (bullying) then martial arts is as viable path to self-mastery as any other do or way.

          • MoralDrift

            I agree on all your points, well explained

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            I appreciate your points as well.

          • Matt Staggs

            @camronwiltshire:disqus @MoralDrift:disqus @twitter-830065939:disqus This is exactly how the disinfo.com of my dreams works. Enjoyable, civil and intelligent exchange of ideas. Good work.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Agreed, there may be hope yet for a new agora/school of athens where we can share our perspectives openly, reasonably and publicly so as to remedy and reverse the effects of the intentional dumbing down of our brothers and sisters. TragedyandHope.com and TriviumEducation.org are sites that have helped me considerably on my auto-didactic journey and I’m always open for open minded conversations that avoid logical fallacies and seek harmony through philosophical inquiry mixed with scientific rigor.

            Here is to setting a new tone for 2013 :)

          • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

            Thanks, that’s my dream too.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Definitely used to provide the bread and circuses distraction quotient. http://mindcontrolexposed.com/

      • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

        Camron has had some good thoughts on it. I’m actually not too thrilled about all the blood and knockouts. If they had a sport that combined wrestling and jujitzu I would watch that instead. I have more respect for martial artists that can imbobilize people without damaging their brains.
        But at the same time though I think the element of real danger sharpens everyones game. I got into it in the early days when wrestlers seemed to dominate everyone else. I knew wrestling wasa tough sport that i felt wasn’t getting the respect it deserved. Since then I have come to appreciate other forms of martial arts that actually work and aren’t just a form of dancing, like a lot of them had become prior to MMA competition.

        • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          Thanks Ted. I agree, the element of danger does produce a different experience. It is a risk but thankfully it can be mitigated with emerging research. Sadly this article captures the bittersweet nature of modern sport combat
          http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ben_fowlkes/03/15/gary-goodridge-cte/index.html
          I hope that Gary could see the following articles
          http://www.angelfire.com/planet/cannabis/traumabraininjury.html
          From this perspective it is apparent that dismantling the antiquated stance on cannabis prohibition for fighters might be a matter of life and death.

          Thank you all for your contributions.

          • Ted Heistman

            So who are your favorite fighters?

            Mine are:

            1. Fedor

            2. Anderson Silva

            3. John Bones Jones

            4 Lyoto Machida

            5. Nick Diaz

            6. Nate Diaz

            7.Joe Lauzon

            8.Dan Henderson

            9.Chael Sonnen

            10.Jeff Monson

            8, and 9 are on testosterone replacement therapy. I don’t think anyone else is on steroids. Top 4 are people I consider true martial artists. Almost super human. They fight with a type of divine grace or something. Fedor is retired now. I just like the Diaz brother’s style. They win with skill and craftiness, just overall strategy, psychological warfare. But I have to admire Machida more, because he is so elusive and barely gets hit.

            Lauzon is just a ferocious nerd, basically. Interesting combo. Smart and fearless. Last three are just unbelievably tough wrestlers/grapplers. That’s what wrestling is, just a tough grind. Nothing flashy. Different breed.

            I won’t point out who I don’t like, but I will say I root against anyone who trains like its a body building competition and thinks that MMA should be about pure striking and that bitches about wrestlers taking them down at will. If they were that tough they should be able to defend take downs and if they could really box they should be a boxer. True martial arts is about taking big muscular meat heads with bad tempers and making them look foolish while putting them to sleep or tapping them out.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            That is a pretty solid list and I see we have a lot of overlap.
            My number one would probably be Genki Sudo because he like Ali before him, used his position to broadcast ideas that promote a higher ideal for humankind.

            After that I was always partial to Evan Tanner because he was an example of the auto-didactic ronin who rose in the ranks to the pinnacle and perhaps glimpsed a greater more important vista himself through his efforts.

            Skill wise I’ve always enjoyed watching GSP, Silva, Jones, Fitch, Maia, Machida, Aldo, The Diaz Bros, really I can’t list them all.

            I always admire Vanderlei and the Nogueira brothers for their tremendous heart and the fact that they participate in social causes in Brazil.

          • Ted Heistman

            Oh yeah, Evan Tanner was a great human being! RIP

  • tj

    Did you know you can find all the books Joe recommends at booksfrompodcast.com

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