The TRUE Gun Control Debate

By on December 18, 2012 in News 16

  • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

    Actually a lot of gun enthusiasts do believe normal citizens should be able to own tanks and bazookas.

    • CosmicAmazing

      My Grandfather owns a tank… He also has other things I will not mention..

      • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

        See? Case in point! The philosophical underpinnings of the second amendment is not the right to hunt deer.

        • CosmicAmazing

          It’s the right to defend against a tyrannical government. The people should be armed well enough to hold back uncle sam if he gets off his meds..

          • Andrew

            The United States military is the largest organization on the planet.

          • James Stevens

            Which is the reason why it’s people should be allowed to own assault rifles!

          • DrDavidKelly

            That being the case, US citizens are going to need more firepower than a thousand millenium falcons … maybe ya’ll ought to re-think this ‘defend ourselves against the government’ thing? Seriously an all out war between the US military and its people? That would get kinda messy. It’s a ludicrous scenario.

          • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

            Unless the US military collapses first, like a huge tumor that finally kills its host

          • Andrew

            Exactly my point. We the People would get genocided.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.fischer.73 Eric Fischer

            Never happen. The country’s owners desperately need us around to buy their stuff. There’d be the standard anti-insurgency plan you see going on throughout the Middle East.

          • mannyfurious

            My thing is, there is no need to subjugate the American people by force. It will never happen. As long as they have iPads and Xboxes and meth and American Idol and belief in American exceptionalism, there will never be a need to physically do anything to any of us. We subjugate ourselves.

  • InfvoCuernos

    You know, I’m not a big fan of this guys’ bits usually, but he says something in this that I think needs to be applied to ALL the political debate in this country: The world is not all black and white. Like every single issue that is debated in this country, if we can sit down and accept that there needs to be a middle ground, then more issues will get resolved. Not just gun control, but imagine applying common sense to just about any topic-abortion, military buildup, airport security, you name it. The problem isn’t guns, nor crazies getting guns, its the rest of us assholes not finding a middle ground that doesn’t serve our own personal interests( and the plutocracy strangling the rest of us with their greed, that’s another problem).

  • Free Radio Revolution

    Ahhh… Alex Jones is losing his shirt on this. Obama wants your guns Americans! That’s right you you gun-toting, hillbilly, inbred, racist, love-it-or-leave-it rednecks! He wants to take away your bazookas and m60s you got stored in your bunkers! How dare he take away your right to cause mayhem!

    Now he’s going after Doomsday Preppers!

    Just think of it dudes… if they take away your automatic machine guns… how are you going to stop the New World Order from happening?

    Somehow I think when the 2nd amendment was written, bazookas and m60s were not around…

    Well we gave it quite a talk and we invite you to listen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3hrzDeciM

  • mannyfurious

    I don’t believe any “real” conversation around “gun control” can take place until some basic facts are understood by both sides.

    1. Outlawing guns will not get rid of them. Just like outlawing drugs hasn’t got rid of drugs. In fact, it will just give the government more of a reason to lock up the darkies and the poor folks, since they’ll more than likely be the ones punished for owning illegal firearms.

    2. Gun humpers are probably correct when they say that outlawing guns would not stop mass shootings from happening. Again, if somebody really wanted to get some guns, they probably would figure it out.

    3. The flip side is that adding more guns to the situation is not a viable solution either. In fact, it’s mind-numbingly moronic. The vast majority of people cannot even act competently in a fistfight, and yet we expect them to turn into John McClain at the slightest hint of gun violence. In reality, if one of teachers in the Connecticut situation was armed, more people probably would’ve been injured as the teacher incompetently tried to fight back.

    4. That it is the culture that needs to be changed, not necessarily the laws, but at the same time, the gun-fetishism so prevalent in this society is a symptom of a culture bizarrely fascinated by violence and destruction, it is not separate from it, as is so often implied by the gun humpers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

    Debates about laws? I don’t want someone else debating about what I should or should not have. It’s no one’s fucking business, but my own. If I’m not hurting anyone, then leave me the fuck alone. The so-called gun debates belong in the same mental trash can as the so-called drug debates–you worried about what _might_ happen? Well, when it does happen, there are already laws on the books to deal with it then. You hurt people on drugs or with guns, or with both? It’s called assault. The authorities come get you and lock your ass up. Plain and simple. We don’t need any of this precautionary principle bullshit. That’s a political charade to gain control over a populace. Oldest fucking rule in the book. Hermann Georing summed it up: http://rense.com/general21/wara.htm

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=647058614 Will Coles

    The truth is that US civilians keep themselves stupid & compliant, they don’t need to be forced to do anything, the government just has to wrap it in the flag so the populace will salute & follow it. There are a few intelligent people but just look at the best selling books, the most popular TV shows, the most famous individuals in your society. Like most Western countries mental evolution is at best stagnant in the U.S.

    The irony is that the right wingers love rules, they love the police & the military, they advocate for their increase in powers & weaponry, yet these are people the government would use if it were to become a dictatorship. They are helping create the enemy they tell us we have to fear, to arm ourselves against, yet with every passing year would have less chance of stopping.