Giving Conspiracy Theorists A Bad Name

By on January 12, 2013 in News 76

What is wrong with these people? As Anderson Cooper says, it’s really best not to give our attention to the lunatic fringe, but when tenured university professors deny that the Newtown school massacre happened it’s hard to stay silent in the face of such amazing stupidity, especially when you know full well that the Internet echo chamber (not to mention certain radio shows) will amplify his words many times over. The video report from Cooper is below, and should you wish to review Tracy’s reaction you can find it here.

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  • http://socialmemorycomplex.net Jeremy Weiland

    I don’t see why this is so urgently bad or dangerous. I think Cooper is addressing the weakest part of Tracy’s claim, which is that it didn’t happen at all, and not even giving any credence to the strongest part of his claim, which is that perhaps the media didn’t report everything. The latter seems pretty reasonable; the media swallows whole what authorities dictate to them all the time, and the idea that Cooper cannot abide any criticism of their role smacks of a self-serving smugness.

    The worst thing I can say about Tracy’s theories is that I’m not sure they would mean much even if they had truth to them.

  • Earaches

    Damage Control.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-M-Anderson/1289313527 George M. Anderson

    Wow. Why is it so hard for conspiracy theorists to accept that life is chaotic and out of control? Remember, kids, Occams Razor cuts both ways. The simple solution applies to everything, including this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

    Are you guys fucking serious? Do you have children? I have three, and if they were murdered, I would not be smiling two days after while talking to the media, blathering on about how special my children were. I have no idea what happened, but those interviews were clearly faked with actors. There was no emotional attachment in the faces of those people. I don’t know why this was done, but it was. Once you get over your emotional barrier and accept it, your next obstacle will be tackling the question of why it was done. That’s open to interpretation, obviously, but I can tell you that we live in desperate times; people doing all they can–lie, cheat, steal and murder–to keep things the way they are. Naivety towards an issue like this is slowly becoming antithetical to your own survival. For your own sake, be careful, trust your instincts, not Anderson fucking Cooper and his used-car-salesman roving reporter.

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      I completely agree Adam, very well said.

    • http://disinfo.com/ Majestic

      Adam, I personally know the father of a child who was at Sandy Hook school that day, although not one of the murder victims. I believe his story of what he saw and what his child went through. I can think of no reason to believe the mad professor.

      • echar

        What is truly sad is that no matter what you say, it is likely to be interpreted to support what they want to think. Sorry to read about your friend and his child. I hope they are doing well.

      • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        To be fair, James Tracey did not say it didn’t happen, he said it didn’t happen the way the media portray.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

        It’s helpful to get confirmation that it did happen, but that wasn’t my point, Maj.

    • Apathesis

      That Robbie Parker guy who has smiling before talking to the cameras seemed a bit off. Very bizarre. But then again, I smirk like a bastard when I’m in a confronted with a stressful situation–and I can’t help it.

      • Calypso_1

        Winston Churchill · “I like a man who grins when he fights.”

    • citizen_watch

      I certainly wouldn’t defend AC as he is one of the many spokespeople for the system of control we live under. Even though he probably does so without the full realization of what he’s doing. That said, I know from personal experience that people react to grief in many different ways. The full shock of a tragic event does not always set in immediately, sometimes not for a long time later. It can seem very strange but it’s the mind’s way of dealing with the unthinkable. One can call bullshit on that if they’d like but I know for a fact it’s not.

      The thing is Adam, the system runs much deeper psychologically than you seem to realize judging by your comments. I’m not attacking you, just saying as it’s obvious you are a truth seeker. Events like these don’t need to be planned by those helping to run the system, sadly there are enough sick people in the world to fill that need and I believe that much of that sickness is a result of the system. How these events are spun however is a whole other thing. Yes it’s true that false flag operations have happened in the past and will happen again but those types of events are usually reserved for when the need can’t be filled in a more convenient way. Is the media spinning this event to satisfy their masters, yes of course. That’s their job, knowingly or not and unfortunately they’re pretty darn good at it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

        Give, take, take, take, take, give, take, BIG take; take, take, take, give, give, take, BIG give, give, take, give, take, give, give, take, take–13 takes, 10 gives. That’s quite a conciliatory ratio. Good balance, too. What PR firm do you work for?

      • Breshvic

        Here here. Society is broken, it’s citizens unheeded, it’s caretakers corrupt, it’s watchdogs heeled, the powerful unfettered, killers on the loose. But not every strand of menacing thread is connected to one shadowy unilateral move.

    • Breshvic

      I hope with every fiber of my being that you don’t ever have to know what it feels like to lose a child. I don’t think any of us who have not should claim to know what we would do, feel, or look like after.

  • echar

    I wonder if this guy has concrete proof, or if he just threw away his career on fearful speculations.

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      good question, here is a thoughtful article outlining the numerous inconsistencies and contradictions in this manipulative milieu.

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

      • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        Another poignant reminder.

        The Newtown School Tragedy: More than One Gunman?

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-newtown-school-tragedy-more-than-one-gunman/5316313

        Empowering Myths and Media Manipulation

        As the lessons of 9/11 impart, when public knowledge of such horrific events is so woefully deficient the nation’s recollections become the fodder for empowering myths dangerously removed from reality. Devoid of information and effective means for political expression the masses are cajoled to exercise faith and hope in empty promises and an system providing the semblance of empathy, hope and change. Under such circumstances violent calamity, appropriately propagandized by mass media, often provides ample public distraction for decisive political maneuvering.

        Journalists capable of exercising a modest degree of autonomy and personal insight would have clearly recognized such leads, thereby extending them to a more rigorous examination of law enforcement spokespersons and the broader Newtown community. Instead, the news media once again wholly abdicated any such responsibility to serve the public by unquestioningly parroting official pronouncements and carefully instructing their audiences on exactly how to interpret the event.

        “The anchors are the priests at the funeral before the funeral happens,” journalist Jon Rappoport notes. “They set the stage. They convey to the public the meaning and atmosphere and essence of the whole event. And having done that, there is simply no room for anything that would intrude on this sepulchral mood.”[7]

        • echar

          Is this undeniable proof?

          I have this friend who was married to this woman. One night she had a dream that he was cheating on her. She decided this was proof enough, so she was mean to him for several days. Eventually they divorced, not because he was cheating, but because she had serious self esteem issues.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Did you actually read the articles? If so please refer to any of the points made therein.

            Echar I’m curious. Are you aware of the reality of false flag attacks by governments throughout history staging events to enable previously untenable political action?

            Undeniable proof (some people will deny 1+1 = 2 ) is something you cannot obtain without a fair investigation of the facts. The main organ (MSM) for dissemination is completely corrupt and thus here we are discussing this information on a site that features multiple perspectives not just those sanctioned by the government/media/military industrial complex.

            What Undeniable proof do you have that the event occurred in the way that MSM is presenting? What of all the scrubbed initial reports? Again if you are ignorant (willfully or otherwise) of the reality of false flag attacks this would require you to become aware of these facts, which many people avoid so as to remain comfortably ensconced in the illusions of the state/matrix.

            Neither one of us can prove exactly what happened but it does not mean that we therefore should default to believing whatever a known propaganda machine spews and deny anyone’s legitimate right to point out massive inconsistencies in the events as they’ve been presented as the honorable James Tracey has presented here.

            I can’t give you undeniable proof that there is not a teapot circling
            the Earth between Mars and the Sun and I would suggest you become aware
            of the illegitimacy of such a logical fallacy as you’ve used here.

            I hate to quote a eugenicist like Bertrand Russell here but it does describe the above scenario.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

            Of you can do what Anderson Cooper (CIA/CNN) wants you to do and that is adopt the attitude that anyone who questions this is automatically a crank.

          • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

            Again, widespread, sinister conspiracies are much more comforting than the chaos of real life. The world is a shithole; there is no conspiracy.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

            No, your world is a shithole. My world is full of wonder, love and the miracle of life. Order pervades everything if we examine it closely. Ideology is its own conspiracy–people think similar things and act collectively to make it a reality. Fairytales like the state and corporations are brought into being by the thoughtless actions of thousands and millions of people at a time. Each participant is a storylistener and a storyteller, acting out the fantasies they’ve been told and re-telling them to others in the hope that one day, they too, can vanquish evil and ascend to their rightful place in the grand scheme of things they’ve been told. When it doesn’t happen that way disillusionment and alienation creep in and the individual rationalizes that the world is shit, but the fairytale is still true. Some troubled souls commit violence at that point, others commit suicide, but the vast majority abuse themselves and others through sex, drugs, drink and bad humour. to assuage their own consciousness of why their fairytale never came true. It’s a complicated spiral downwards that could have been avoided by not believing the fairytale one was told in the beginning.

          • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

            FYI-Psychedelic experiences and mental illness often present with the experience of profound insights and widespread connections. This is a delusion and should be treated as such.

          • Calypso_1

            metaphor ≠ delusion

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

            huh?

          • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

            clever, but not really. you’re pretty deep in the rabbit hole

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

            why because i don’t believe in fairytales and you do?

          • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

            I don’t know what makes you think I believe in fairy tales.

          • echar

            Did you actually read the articles?

            I did not read all of it, because there was no need.

            Are you aware of the reality of false flag attacks by governments throughout history staging events to enable previously untenable political action?

            Yes, I am aware of it’s use.

            What Undeniable proof do you have that the event occurred in the way that MSM is presenting?

            None… Regardless if it was interdemensional beings, killer clowns from outer space, post MKULTRA mind controlled gunmen, or rogue sparkly vampires that killed these people… There is nothing you or I can do about what has happened. Seriously, what if this is some plot to take away guns? You may as well grab your B.O.B. and get all Iron Maiden, because believe it or not it’s out of our hands.

            http://youtu.be/geHLdg_VNww

          • Kevin Leonard

            You are a perfect citizen.

          • echar

            Please tell me what action you have taken about H.A.A.R.P., Montauk, Roswell, the JFK shooting,etc. I am all eyes, oh pointy finger one.

          • Kevin Leonard

            if it doesn’t matter, why should i bother responding to you? (beyond what suits my ego)

          • echar

            That’s what I thought.

          • Kevin Leonard
          • echar

            I get it, but how can there be a consciousness shift if all these conspiracy theories are about fear? May as well bring back the Bush Junior color coded terrorist alerts.

            Look at the Professor’s eyes when he talks. That looks like fear to me.

          • Calypso_1

            Will their be rogue sparkly vampire alerts?

          • echar

            There should be!

          • Kevin Leonard

            I partially agree with you and partially disagree. Fear is not the answer and actions based on fear will almost never result in desired outcomes.

            One thing that I actually appreciate about Icke is that he addresses the fear issue. It is unfortunate that his message always gets passed on (and passed over) with the reptilian agenda business in the foreground.

            I am surprised that Chris Duane isn’t already more well known. The Sons of Liberty Academy videos are unparalleled in their level-headedness (no offense, AJ), rationalism (move over, Icke) and practical-ish approach (go back to your books, Maxwell).

            A key is found in the statment of Orwell’s quoted in the video, “Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled, they cannot become conscious.”

            Please forgive me if I mischaracterize you in the following, but the position I felt your post portrayed, and I contemplated it during several reads, is that “well, we can do nothing about it, so we might as well let it go.” To me, that sounds like going back to sleep, what’s the point, none of this conspiracy stuff is provable, anyway – which sits just above the “ignornance is bliss/ don’t stir the pot” attitude on a consciousness scale.

            People like Alex Jones, if he is what he says he is, are most definitely in the rebellion phase of Orwell’s rhetoric. As we become more conscious that we are potentially living in a complete lie manufactured by TPTB, events like Sandy Hook, with all of its inconstencies, necessarily should be examined, albeit with a hyper-critical eye, from both sides.

            When we examine these inconsistencies, people at a certain level of awakening to the rotten politic will be afraid. Conspiracy or not, that is what the media is promoting, anyway – a fear of guns. Some of us may be less afraid of guns (read *all of the stats, ignore the bobble-heads) but may be afraid of the hold the government/ media has on the minds of the populace.

            Some of us will want to rebel. Some of us may realize that rebelling is pointless, I feel that is what your post portrays. That does not mean we should abandon a search for truth, even if we are physically helpless to change it. And, especially, we should not abandon our dissemination of ideas, principles and facts that go against the status quo.

            And while we may not be capable of changing the world around us, we are, however, capable of change. Internally. Consciously. Here is where things get tricky, though. It is unexplored territory for the masses. Talk about metaphysical reality to the populace and you become marginalized, even more so than those rebelling outwardly.

            But the point of my derogatory statement of you being a perfect citizen is that your statement reflected how, I feel, TPTB want its citizenry to act, nonplussed and therefore compliant.

          • Kevin Leonard

            I partially agree with you and partially disagree. Fear is not the answer and actions based on fear will almost never result in desired outcomes.

            One thing that I actually appreciate about Icke is that he addresses the fear issue. It is unfortunate that his message always gets passed on (and passed over) with the reptilian agenda business in the foreground.

            I am surprised that Chris Duane isn’t already more well known. The Sons of Liberty Academy videos are unparalleled in their level-headedness (no offense, AJ), rationalism (move over, Icke) and practical-ish approach (go back to your books, Maxwell).

            A key is found in the statment of Orwell’s quoted in the video, “Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled, they cannot become conscious.”

            Please forgive me if I mischaracterize you in the following, but the position I felt your post portrayed, and I contemplated it during several reads, is that “well, we can do nothing about it, so we might as well let it go.” To me, that sounds like going back to sleep, what’s the point, none of this conspiracy stuff is provable, anyway – which sits just above the “ignornance is bliss/ don’t stir the pot” attitude on a consciousness scale.

            People like Alex Jones, if he is what he says he is, are most definitely in the rebellion phase of Orwell’s rhetoric. As we become more conscious that we are potentially living in a complete lie manufactured by TPTB, events like Sandy Hook, with all of its inconstencies, necessarily should be examined, albeit with a hyper-critical eye, from both sides.

            When we examine these inconsistencies, people at a certain level of awakening to the rotten politic will be afraid. Conspiracy or not, that is what the media is promoting, anyway – a fear of guns. Some of us may be less afraid of guns (read *all of the stats, ignore the bobble-heads) but may be afraid of the hold the government/ media has on the minds of the populace.

            Some of us will want to rebel. Some of us may realize that rebelling is pointless, I feel that is what your post portrays. That does not mean we should abandon a search for truth, even if we are physically helpless to change it. And, especially, we should not abandon our dissemination of ideas, principles and facts that go against the status quo.

            And while we may not be capable of changing the world around us, we are, however, capable of change. Internally. Consciously. Here is where things get tricky, though. It is unexplored territory for the masses. Talk about metaphysical reality to the populace and you become marginalized, even more so than those rebelling outwardly.

            But the point of my derogatory statement of you being a perfect citizen is that your statement reflected how, I feel, TPTB want its citizenry to act, nonplussed and therefore compliant.

          • echar

            From my perspective, pointing out every flaw, real or imagined, has the potential of tipping the whole back into ignorance. If I were in charge, I would feed this vein of fear until that is all that is known.

  • BuzzCoastin

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tomas-Estrada-Palma/775058190 Tomas Estrada-Palma

    As a rule now, I usually believe the exact opposite of what Andersen Cooper and the networks assert.

  • http://twitter.com/MASSAGRABBER massagrabber

    The coverage was a train wreck. Untruths, impossibilities and procedures shredded.
    Who did that. You did , no you did. F’n confusion is a mask in this day and age of instant communication.
    Why was the pres gleefully engaged in picture taking with a supposed dead girl. Explain that.
    Grow up folks. You have been spun. Deal with it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eHv_RhVgfUQ

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      Multiple oswalds, share dresses and intentional red herrings abound.

    • Apathesis

      That video is bullshit. Look closely at the family photos before the shooting. The girl wearing the same dress is not the dead daughter Emilie. The jaw structure and the nose are nowhere near the same and the hair is not parted the same way. She is younger and is therefore wearing a hand-me-down of Emilie’s.

  • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

    Let’s be sure to include his words versus the strawman being raised against him.
    “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire
    whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law
    enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.”

    Emphasis on “- at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.”

    Kudos to this real American for raising uncomfortable questions in the face of the nazification of our Country.

    It is completely obvious this event is being exploited to assault the second amendment. Anyone who is still ignorant of the reality of false flag attacks is dangerously naive.

    • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

      gun nuts heard from….

      • Calypso_1

        Mr. Wiltshire has never expressed any overt individual interest in firearms on this site. He does, however consistently represent his own views in the face of significant difference of opinion regarding humans freedoms.

        • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

          Disagree. It’s pretty clear from the last paragraph that Mr. is a gun nut.

  • Ittabena

    First off, the minute I heard about Sandy Hook my first thought was the timing was very convenient; Right after an election where an unpopular incumbent was reinstated to the Oval Office via a Repub candidate who seemed to do everything he could to alienate the masses.

    Second; Nothing is as it seems! Ever!

    Third; Anderson Cooper is not a reporter, he is a spin doctor and therefore closer to an entertainer than a journalist. His reporting is slanted – as are most these days – to cause us to take up sides and get us, the public, factionalized on yet another issue which we will now never know the truth of. Undoubtedly, AJ has been, or is all over this doing the same thing from the other side.

    Fourth; We have been “handled” and “managed” by TPTB since WWII and this treatment began under a president who warned us that if something happened on the world stage it was certainly planned. Why would that handling being continued be a surprise to anyone who looks deeper than their T.V., recliner, and beer?

    I have and will continue not to look or comment on the Sandy Hook issue, because what may or may not have happened, suspicious as it may be, is a distraction from the real issues we need to be concerned with, as was the immediately preceding campaign for the Oval Office.

    The only issue to be decided here is whether a group of men can change what our forefathers deemed to be inalienable rights granted by God – whatever name you want to call him/her – and delineated in the Bill of Rights. Playing on our heartstrings, whether over a real event or staged, does not accomplish this item that appears to be on “their” national agenda.

    Timing, timing, timing.

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      Also the timing mimics the previous shooting with it’s proximity to the supposed arms treaty with the UN. They turn up the heat incrementally, adjusting the means/spells constantly towards their desired ends.

      • Ittabena

        Camron, do you ever wish that you could go back and take the blue pill instead of the red one? Sometimes I do, but after a moment or two it passes.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=742104313 Adam Goodwin

          You certainly can’t unknow, but you can forget by getting lost in other things. Gardening is one good option. Cooking is another. Carpentry and small-scale building is another. There’s such depth in all of those topics that this conspiracy shit, while becoming increasingly more obvious, pales in comparison. Their world is slowly melting.

        • Calypso_1

          As a representative of the pharmaceutical-industrial complex, I’m happy to inform you that we now have a number of new pills to help with those inbetween moments -
          including a canary-yellow pill with pink speckles & a time release capsule full of forest-green beads.

          • Ittabena

            Lol, very nice!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=514204852 Leah Doner

        You mean that UN treaty that concerns global trade in guns and has nothing to do with the sale and possession of firearms in the USA? Why is the NRA opposing the control of international trade in firearms? The Second Amendment doesn’t apply outside the USA.

  • http://twitter.com/RayButlers Ray Butlers

    For some, a wide conspiracy against private gun ownership involving media, government, and education is actually more comforting than the horrific, heartless chaos of simple reality. How very sad and unproductive that is.

    • Calypso_1

      Of those persons that I know that believe in such a political reality (and am not talking about any ‘fringe’ elements) are those with significant personal & scholarly knowledge of the chaos of reality & mankind’s role in it.

      Of those persons that I know that do not seem to have a well grounded view of such chaos are generally the ones that display the most fear when such events happen. Such as in this specific case, when a statistically outlying event is being used as a fear tactic to change public policy.

  • Apathesis

    The reporting on this story was absolutely fucking abysmal. Here’s things they said on that Friday that were later proven false:
    Ryan Lanza was the shooter.
    Mrs. Lanza was a teacher at Sandy Hook.
    Her body was found in Hoboken.
    The father’s body was found in Hoboken.
    A body was found in Hoboken.
    The shooter had four handguns (CNN)
    The shooter wore ballistic armor.

    Dec. 14 at 5:00PM: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121214/NATION/212140464

    “According to the second official, the suspect drove to the scene of the
    shootings in his mother’s car. Three guns were found at the scene — a
    Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The
    rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two
    pistols were recovered from inside the school.”

    Here’s an article from Dec.15:
    http://www.kplu.org/post/police-make-contact-lanzas-missing-girlfriend-and-friend-mother-found-dead-home

    “According to the first official, the suspect drove to the scene of the
    shootings in his mother’s car. Three guns were found at the scene — a
    Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The
    rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two
    pistols were recovered from inside the school.”

    Notice the change from second official to first official? Sloppy reporting. And the rifle was still being reported as found in the trunk.

    Strangely enough, the rifle was later said to be found five feet from the shooter. Video later surfaced showing authorities emptying what looked like a Saiga-12 in the trunk of a car–at night! How could they have known the .223 was in the car if the trunk was not searched until well after dinner time on that Friday?

    • Breshvic

      But… initial reporting is ALWAYS sloppy, the fragmented information that comes out is hard to verify and coming from contradictory or confused sources in panic mode. That isn’t a legitimate indictment or argument positing that some conspiracy is in place; a claim that would require better evidence. Law enforcement and the news are not going to have a complete picture of what happened in the first few hours or even days.

      • Apathesis

        I was not suggesting a conspiracy was in place, nor do I believe there was one. Where did you even get that idea? I was merely mentioning how atrocious the reporting was. Maybe the news shouldn’t report on a story until they get all the facts straight instead of swarming on tragedies like a pack of ravenous dogs to a fresh kill. I have seen no retractions issued on the various inaccuracies and false claims put out there.

        • Breshvic

          Sorry for any implication that mischaracterized your position, it was more intended as a general statement about the conspiratorially-minded subjects in question. They tend to take what are legitimate criticisms about sloppy reporting or sensationalism, and take them a few steps too far down their rabbit hole.

          So I do agree that the way the media swarms to cover a tragedy is abominable, and the way audiences eat it up isn’t much better. All the paranoia and fear only feeds into the inevitable conspiracy theories.

  • T Faunos

    The new Dark Ages won’t be caused by a scarcity of information passing from generation to generation as it once was, but by information-overload fatigue, and the freedom to swim in a wide stream. We live in a bastardized philosophical application of Einstein’s Relativity: ….that where ever you are in the universe, your view is bound to be different. But unlike juxtapositions in space: stars separated by great distance watching the passage of time, we are living together on one planet in a few short generations. Our views are finite and thoroughly imperfect. We can pick and choose at the buffet or we can streamline and focus. Our genome is 99% the ‘same human being’. But our reality is not relative to one another, as much as we are subject to one another, here and now. There is no objective stance on planet earth.

    Even the conspiracy theorist, over-thinking sometimes to a point of irrational, is coping with the carnivorous world in his own way….and therein our human sympathies may lay: to try and understand his “position” as we want to recognize that he, another animal separate from ourselves may have a better view and by extension we may find further validity or renewed faith in our own fleeting positions…but like the view from atop the mountain, no matter how grand and gorgeous and designed it may seem, below is nothing but struggle, life eating life every second, chaos on a small scale…and the clouds obscure, and so does the haze, or the shadows, or the heat rising from the surrounding air…these things all affect the true clarity of the view from atop that peak, playing larger in our subjective stance than actually need be, bloated and inflated by our own fears, desires, or associations….and therefore everyone, including a heretofore rational professor, must be taken with a grain of salt.

  • pull your head in

    disinfo is right. i guess we may as well just believe 911 and the umteenth death of bin laden happened the way the official story line says they did as well.. ohh.. include pearl harbor.. aurora… blah blah blah

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rip-Harvest/100001448878396 Rip Harvest

    “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.”

    Anderson Cooper jumps on the portion of the sentence:

    “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—”

    before the following qualifying prep:

    “at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.”

    This is intended to milk a reaction of outrage from his audience.

    Mr. Cooper doesn’t quite know who he’s messing with. Personally, I would not want to go toe-to-toe with Professor James Tracy. I’ve read his past work and he is one of the sharper knives in the drawer.
    Anderson had to use a deceptive excerpt out of context in order for people to buy his fake righteous indignation.

    Taking an additional step from what Tracy suggests, here’s a good rule of thumb. If the official story contradicts existing evidence and there is no transparency while independent inquiry is discouraged by the authorities, it is reasonable to acknowledge that the event was facilitated by the authorities.

    • Breshvic

      I don’t think that’s a reasonable leap, frankly. It’s the equivalent of “I don’t know, so therefore aliens” or “I don’t know what that sound was, so therefore ghosts” or in this case “I don’t have the complete story, so therefore the government did it.” Lack of evidence is not evidence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nickoli.volkoff Nickoli Mad Russian Volkoff

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mlszDIRZb0 its funny how the asshole questioning the corrupt nature of someone who would scrutinize the events of that days as potentially fictitious is actually in on it himself having given an interview to the “parents” of one of the “deceased children.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=514204852 Leah Doner

      You’re such a “man”, Nickoli.

  • citizen_watch

    So the nut job theme continues on CNN… I agree with Cooper that denying this horrific incident happened is sickening but AC’s job is magnitudes more sickening knowing his voice reaches so many people. Spin within a spin within a spin…oh the webs these spiders weave, shoo fly shoo.

  • Brian DeSmet

    I hope this moron has been fired already. He has no place teaching the young adults of this country.

  • Apathesis

    Anyone who doesn’t question the official accounts of what transpired on that day is a DUNCE.

    My mom almost went in a rage just because I mentioned how incredibly inaccurate all the

  • Breshvic

    It seems like an awful lot of extra work, unnecessary addition of imaginative details, and special pleading to turn this into something that plays into the conspiracy narrative. Are we that immune from shootings that they must ALL be staged false flags or psyops? Wouldn’t a cohesive worldview that accepts real conspiracies but NOT outrageously untrue ones do us better service than just going cherry-picking through the data, fishing for anomalies, and wild goose hunting? Why accept these attention-craving purveyors of sensationalist speculation into the fold?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joieboyer Joe Boyer

    Why would these all powerful manipulators create such laughable blunders as paid actors, the same paid actors throughout Sandy Hook and the CO shooting? You don’t think they could find another actor? You don’t think those actors could easily reveal the truth? Jeff Prager, who is no stranger to exposing ACTUAL government frauds, has done the (relatively easy) task of debunking all the ridiculous claims in this free eMagazine. They may be using it as an excuse, but it wasn’t a hoax. http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e0536884.html Click on the left “download” button after unchecking the box. Follow Jeff and the discussions/debates here: https://www.facebook.com/prager1

  • Dying Fetus 102

    Andersen Cooper was an intern at the CIA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=514204852 Leah Doner

    Yeah, because the US Military is terrified of fat-ass Walmart shoppers turning into Wolverines.