Canadian Researchers Demolish The Myth Of Mother Teresa’s Goodness

First exposed as a fraud by Christopher Hitchens, renowned twentieth-century saint Mother Teresa now appears to have been more of a monster. Via EurekAlert!:

The myth of altruism and generosity surrounding Mother Teresa is dispelled in a paper by Serge Larivée and Genevieve Chenard of University of Montreal’s Department of Psychoeducation and Carole Sénéchal of the University of Ottawa. The three researchers collected and analyzed 502 documents on the life and work of Mother Teresa.

At the time of her death, Mother Teresa had opened 517 missions welcoming the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving appropriate care.  [There was] a significant lack of hygiene, even unfit conditions, as well as a shortage of actual care, inadequate food, and no painkillers. The problem is not a lack of money—the Foundation created by Mother Teresa has raised hundreds of millions of dollars—but rather a particular conception of suffering and death: “There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,” was her reply to criticism.

Mother Teresa was generous with her prayers but rather miserly with her foundation’s millions when it came to humanity’s suffering. During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopal, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti. Millions of dollars were transferred to the MCO’s various bank accounts, but most of the accounts were kept secret, Larivée says.

Despite these disturbing facts, how did Mother Teresa succeed in building an image of holiness and infinite goodness? According to the three researchers, her meeting in London in 1968 with the BBC’s Malcom Muggeridge, an anti-abortion journalist who shared her right-wing Catholic values, was crucial. Muggeridge decided to promote Teresa, who consequently discovered the power of mass media. In 1969, he made a eulogistic film of the missionary, promoting her by attributing to her the “first photographic miracle,” when it should have been attributed to the new film stock being marketed by Kodak. Afterwards, Mother Teresa travelled throughout the world and received numerous awards, including the Nobel Peace Prize.

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  • http://twitter.com/DrinkyMcGee Daniel Cecil

    This is, point for point, exactly what Christopher Hitchens wrote.

    • https://sites.google.com/site/themattprather Matt Prather

      Maybe the good brother Sloan could have quoted (and possibly even bolded) this sentence:

      Like the journalist and author Christopher Hitchens, who is amply quoted in their analysis, the researchers conclude that her hallowed image—which does not stand up to analysis of the facts—was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign.

      As far as the content of the article (and not to reply specifically to you Dan Cecil), I’d say that one of the first adult lessons about one’s religion is that the stories (“myths”) don’t always completely hold up under scrutiny. Another of the first such lessons is that people are always out to nit-pick (“pick gnat s*** out of pepper”) for inconsistencies.

      I say the way to judge a person of religion is in how each adherent lives their life — much as God judges. So, regarding all those Catholics out there, whom I cannot see or judge, I wouldn’t try to make them feel bad if Mother Teresa doesn’t live up to the image / hype.

      I’d make Mother Teresa feel bad. Or I’d make Christopher Hitchens or Serge Larivée and Genevieve Chenard feel bad if their so-called myth debunking doesn’t carry its own water. But as far as the people who believe in Catholicism go, I wouldn’t try to bash them over the heads with this. It’s pretty milquetoast compared to The Inquisition and to the current conspiracy investigations on the Vatican.

      * * *

      Bonus historical / philosophical text summary:

      1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_the_Sun
      2: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/campanella/#Cala

      * * *

      Bonus pic, related:
      http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/people-y-u-no-live-in-peace.jpg

      • http://twitter.com/DrinkyMcGee Daniel Cecil

        I saw that quote. I was merely surprised that there was nothing new in this at all. Reread Hitchens, ya’ll. Same stuff. Better writer.

        • emperorreagan

          Or it presents the same information without being written by an insufferable prick like Hitchens.

          • http://rizzn.com Mark ‘Rizzn’ Hopkins

            That was his charm.

          • http://rizzn.com Mark ‘Rizzn’ Hopkins

            That was his charm.

          • Greg Scott

            Hitch did not suffer fools or religious charlatans like MT gladly.

        • emperorreagan

          Or it presents the same information without being written by an insufferable prick like Hitchens.

  • http://www.zoboprepublic.wordpress.com/ zobop republic

    How the Hell does the world gain from suffering? She may be considered a saint but she was still a begger. [Begged for donations in order to help the needy]. I’d called that Irony.

    • https://sites.google.com/site/themattprather Matt Prather

      “The essence of suffering is desire.”

      If you suffered more than you ever suffered before, and came through it to happiness again, you would probably value life more than you ever had before.

      You might even start to look at “beggars” more individually than categorically.

      I always try cue people in to this fact: money is created when one man with empty pockets pledges debt to another man with empty pockets. Thus the money creator has fantastic power and fantastic responsibility. The debtor’s responsbility is relatively easy prove in court, yet the modern money creators (debt-holders) should not be above reproach or investigation for fraud or fraudulent inducement either.

      If you do not understand what I am trying to say, feel free to ask me for more information.

      • http://www.zoboprepublic.wordpress.com/ zobop republic

        I think I got it. Thanks!

      • maus

        Your explanation of the quote may apply to some people, especially if they’ve never suffered before, but to someone that has lived a life filled with suffering, happiness comes with a side of doubt – hence the expression “ignorance is bliss.”

      • everettt herbert

        If I knew what language you are writing in, it would be a good start.

    • Greg Scott

      Except the money went into the Vatican coffers– almost none of it went to the poor.

      • Erick Chastain

        The money that goes to the church goes to the poor. We run some of the largest international charities in the world, you know. Pope Francis reaches out to the poor every day.

        • Greg Scott

          She was a friend of poverty– not to the poor. truly a horrible monster. sometimes death isn’t a bad thing.

          • Erick Chastain

            Offtopic. Did I say anything about MT? You made an assumption which is actually false, that the vatican’s money doesn’t go to the poor.

          • Greg Scott

            Its fact. at any rate, shes gone, her ”hospitals” are gone as well. good riddance.

          • Erick Chastain

            what proof do you have that none of the vatican’s money goes to the poor? That’s a very strong statement, so, got evidence?

          • Aly K.

            Actually, Vatican money doesn’t go to the poor.
            Pope Francis is the only exception to the other popes we’ve had previously. I’ve been glad that he’s a Jesuit. But during the time MT was alive and even the previous pope, the Vatican is practically just a Mafia, instead of pushing drugs and hiding covert operations, they’re pushing religion and hiding pedophiles.

  • LordGorgon

    Hold on… This same thing was on Penn & Teller Bullshit like 5 years ago.

    • echar

      It was hardly new information then.

      • LordGorgon

        Very true, but, why is everyone shocked every time this gets brought up

        • echar

          I am not shocked at all. No one is perfect.

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    Penn and Teller exposed the same years ago as well. She was a horrible human being. This is the world we now live in. The horrible are elevated to sainthood and the good are simply ignored.

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    Penn and Teller exposed the same years ago as well. She was a horrible human being. This is the world we now live in. The horrible are elevated to sainthood and the good are simply ignored.

    • godozo

      No good deed goes unpunished,
      No evil deed goes unrewarded.

      Would not surprise me to find
      that the people who raised Mother Theresa up
      and supported her “mission” did so PRECISELY
      because the way that she treated the poor

      (“let them die, their suffering will sanctify them”)
      was the way they’ve always wanted to treat us –
      only without the sanctification of suffering…
      and because their introduction of the term “Karma”
      didn’t turn out the way that they wanted it to turn out.

      • Knowitsome

        Yeah? How do YOU treat the poor?

        • moonmad

          Better.

          • Knowitsome

            I’m sure.

        • everettt herbert

          I don’t stick them in a dingy corner to die while I’m out looking for a camera to stick my face in.

          • Knowitsome

            I didn’t ask about what you don’t do. I asked what you do for them.

          • everettt herbert

            I think good deeds should be like prayer, It’s nobody s god damn business, just like Jesus instructed. When I see people praying in public I think to myself, HYPOCRITE.

          • Knowitsome

            Great. Then why are you criticizing her good deeds?

          • everettt herbert

            If you would take the time to read my posts you would know that I do not consider what she did to the poor “good deeds.”

          • Knowitsome

            So it’s up to you to judge everyone else’ sanctions to what is a good deed and what’s a bad deed, and if it’s a good deed, it’s none of anyone’s business, but if it’s a bad deed, then it’s your business? That’s your position?

          • everettt herbert

            You asked me “what do I do for then?” My intent was to tell you that the good deeds that I do in secret are none of your business. My family doesn’t even know the charities I support, unlike a great number of religious people I know. Can you give me one good reason why I should tell you what I don’t disclose to my nearest and dearest?

            Please don’t try and play the “Don’t Judge” card here. If you are anything like me and the people I know, you are making judgments almost every waking moment, and some of those are about peoples actions. Am I right or am I right?

            Just curious, do you pray in public?

          • Knowitsome

            Just saying, if you’re judging people’s actions, if bad deeds are your business, then so are good deeds. If you want to say neither one is your business, then don’t criticize Mother Theresa for doing bad deeds. If you do, also acknowledge her good deeds. And I pray when I’m in public, but not out loud. Prayer is private. But good deeds are social; they have to do with other people by definition. That’s not private. Cheers.

          • maxime1793

            Yeah, because you ignore them.

          • everettt herbert

            Lady, you have absolutely no clue what I do or don’t do.
            Why don’t you stop pretending to know things that you can’t possibly know?

        • godozo

          I have my own burden which I’m taking care of well enough. And you? All I’ve seen from you is sanctimony.

    • Knowitsome

      Horrible? She did a hell of a lot more for people than any of you trolls.

      • Drgulla

        What did she do? She didn’t provide medical care for the sick or alleviate their suffering or educate them or do anything to lift them out of poverty. Exactly what did she do for the poor?

        • Knowitsome

          She did do all those things, she just didn’t do them without fail.

  • Guest

    Like all cathol’ick’ clegy and many lay she did not support bitrth control thereby sentencing millions if not billions (mostly women to lives of misery.

  • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

    Nothing new and itself the claims are dubious, at least Mother Teresa did more to help the poor than did Hitchens, Penn and Teller.

    Course she wasn’t a saint, but who is? FWIW she died at the time of Princess Diana in the UK, and older people remember that Diana coverage drowned out that of Mother Teresa’s funeral.

    This is only being resurfaced because the Church is back in the spotlight again because of the election of a new pope.

  • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

    Nothing new and itself the claims are dubious, at least Mother Teresa did more to help the poor than did Hitchens, Penn and Teller.

    Course she wasn’t a saint, but who is? FWIW she died at the time of Princess Diana in the UK, and older people remember that Diana coverage drowned out that of Mother Teresa’s funeral.

    This is only being resurfaced because the Church is back in the spotlight again because of the election of a new pope.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuckt1981 Charles Thomas

      She didn’t do anything to help the poor, unless you meant to say “she helped the poor to suffer.” You should probably think about doing some research on this topic if you really care to know. She caused suffering to occur, so she could “be close to God.” That’s sick! By the way, she is a saint. That’s kind of the point.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuckt1981 Charles Thomas

      She didn’t do anything to help the poor, unless you meant to say “she helped the poor to suffer.” You should probably think about doing some research on this topic if you really care to know. She caused suffering to occur, so she could “be close to God.” That’s sick! By the way, she is a saint. That’s kind of the point.

      • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

        Don’t be ridiclous, if you were dying in India who would you most like to meet, Mother Teresa or Christopher Hitchens? Please, for you’re own sake,think how silly this sounds, “She didn’t do anything to help the poor”, indeed.

        Clearly, Mother Teresa did far more for others – the needy – than her detractors. And it isn’t worshipping a media celebrity, or denying she had flaws, to point out that there’s are people who’ll attack anything and anyone connected with something they dislike.

        • Michael Fulford

          What exactly did she do for others, except take money for the church and let people suffer?
          Hitchens, while a celebrated author, was not particuarly wealthy. As a journalist, his job was to reveal the excesses of man. Which he did with regularity.
          Mother Theresa took money meant to be for the care of the sick and dying, and kept the money and left the sick to suffer.

          • everettt herbert

            Lets not forget that the little bitch refused a court order from the state of California to return $1,000,000 that Charles Keating gave to her that he stole from a Savings and Loan, for which he went to prison.

          • maxime1793

            Actually, what Hitchens mostly did in his last decade was act as a polemicist for WAR against Muslims.

          • Michael Fulford

            Maybe you could prove that? Hitchens was very vocal on his criticisms of fundamentalist Islam.
            Which is not aurprising, he was living in New York on 9/11/01, loosing a colleuge on one of the planes that struck the towers.
            He was friends with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has writen extensively on the treatment of women and has received death threats.
            Likewise he was friends with Salman Rushdie, who has had a fatwa declared against him, and whos publisher was shot and nearly killed.
            And we regularly receive news of violence conducted by the fundamentalists in the Muslim religion.
            Now yes, he did suupport the Iraq war somethin that mad ehim unpopular with most in the progressive/liberal spectrum. His reasoning for this was the treatment of the local Kurds under the abusive regime.
            Asit because obvious the war was a quagmire with no clear purpose or direction, he rmoved his support.
            I am not a fan of his politics, however he was honest with
            his views and reasons.
            This stand sin stark contrast to Mother Theresa, who collects funds to care for the poor to instead

          • Michael Fulford

            As opposed to Mother Theresa, who collected money meant for the poor, and was instead funneled to the poor, while getting medical treatment that was denied to the people she supposedly caring for.

        • maxime1793

          Chris Hitchens would sooner have had the “excess population” of India killed.

        • everettt herbert

          Don, don’t you be ridiculous. Thats a no brainer, CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS any day of the week. The thought of MT putting her hands on me knowing that she is going to be glorying in my suffering, well Jesus H Christ on a Popsicle stick, I would just kill myself.

      • LadyAvon

        “By the way, she is a saint. That’s kind of the point.”
        ROFLMAO!!!

      • maxime1793

        Like you’ve been to India and investigated anything….

        Get over yourself!

  • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

    Somewhere along the line is biased towards first world liberalism, and against Catholicism.

    “According to the three researchers, her meeting in London in 1968 with the BBC’s Malcom Muggeridge, an anti-abortion journalist who shared her right-wing Catholic values, was crucial. Muggeridge decided to promote Teresa, who consequently discovered the power of mass media.”

    Notice the bit about Muggeridge being an ‘anti-abortion journalist’ as though he writes on nothing else. This shows the authors bias in favour of one side of a single political issue. To people with such a bias, a media-friendly face for their ideological opponents will indeed be undesirable so they will try to undermine their reputation by pointing out a few flaws, and ignoring the vast amount of good they did. yea well, no one’s perfect but credit is due where credit is due.

    Also the Church is not ‘right wing’ by 20th C standards, it is only considered so because the left has been subverted . In Venezuela Chavez married Catholic values to socialism and this is pretty much the mainstream catholic position nowadays, who do you prefer, Hugo Chavez or the kind of pro-choice, urban liberal people who look down on rednecks for being poor and uneducated?

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuckt1981 Charles Thomas

      The reason they mentioned he was “anti-abortion” is that was the whole reason he met with and glorify this wicked woman was that they agreed politically You’re way overthinking this. Also, before you endorse Hugo Chavez, you should probably look into who he really is. I suspect you’d be less impressed with him if you did.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuckt1981 Charles Thomas

      The reason they mentioned he was “anti-abortion” is that was the whole reason he met with and glorify this wicked woman was that they agreed politically You’re way overthinking this. Also, before you endorse Hugo Chavez, you should probably look into who he really is. I suspect you’d be less impressed with him if you did.

      • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

        Why is she a wicked woman?

        Saying someone has flaws, doesn’t justify denying there was anything positive about them. Course she wasn’t ‘wicked’.

        As for Chavez, sure he was,’t perfect. He was a multiculturalist and he used anti-white rhetoric whereas I’m a ‘borderline WN’ case. But what did he do, really? He reduced poverty and invested in basic health care and education. For the sake of argument, supposing Britain had a leader like Chavez. He might use anti-white language when he takes from the richest whites, but the less affluent whites wold benefit more than under the present system.

        Chavez pushed land reform. We need land reform up in Scotland. He said everyone has a right to housing and food. Even in the UK we have people on the streets, and old people who freeze in the winter because they don’t have fuel. No one cares. Meanwhile human rights types sit on their armchairs and worry about the ‘human rights; of people like murderers and rapists in prisons.So if Chavez ruffled the feathers of a few human rights watchdogs as he supported those genuinely in need, that has to be good – especially when we know who’s behind ‘em and what they’re really after.

      • http://skadhitheravernerblog.wordpress.com/ Skadhi_the_Raverner

        Why is she a wicked woman?

        Saying someone has flaws, doesn’t justify denying there was anything positive about them. Course she wasn’t ‘wicked’.

        As for Chavez, sure he was,’t perfect. He was a multiculturalist and he used anti-white rhetoric whereas I’m a ‘borderline WN’ case. But what did he do, really? He reduced poverty and invested in basic health care and education. For the sake of argument, supposing Britain had a leader like Chavez. He might use anti-white language when he takes from the richest whites, but the less affluent whites wold benefit more than under the present system.

        Chavez pushed land reform. We need land reform up in Scotland. He said everyone has a right to housing and food. Even in the UK we have people on the streets, and old people who freeze in the winter because they don’t have fuel. No one cares. Meanwhile human rights types sit on their armchairs and worry about the ‘human rights; of people like murderers and rapists in prisons.So if Chavez ruffled the feathers of a few human rights watchdogs as he supported those genuinely in need, that has to be good – especially when we know who’s behind ‘em and what they’re really after.

        • CT14

          Why is she wicked?

          Because she had millions of dollars and couldn’t even keep her 517 “care” facilities clean. She simply corralled the poor and did little to aid their pain and illnesses. She refused pain medications to the suffering, because she found that suffering to be “beautiful”.

          Sadism, even in the name of religion, is wicked.

          • maxime1793

            What about judging people you don’t know anything about?

            And in what state are your “are facilities”?

          • everettt herbert

            Maxime, while it is improper to judge people in the court of public opinion, It is a totally proper move to judge their deeds and actions. Some people will wrap themselves in the banner of religion (or any dogma) and do horrible things that no ordinary person would ever do. I don’t know you but I would like to think that if the poor and dying were put in your care that you would do a more humane job. I know I would

      • Erick Chastain

        I know Chavez, being Venezuelan. I appreciate him greatly. I think he has put south america on the map. Finally we can break free of the capitalist secular imperialists such as yourself who wish to make us carbon copies of you. Funny how American free-thinking seems to always lead to the same, boring conclusion.

    • everettt herbert

      She is no saint, she’s a demon. It cannot be calculated the tens of thousands of men, women and children that died in pain and agony in her HOUSES of DEATH. Then to top it off, she lost her faith in the end.

      • Erick Chastain

        does she have a body? yes. Do demons have bodies? No. Ergo she cannot be a demon. Her faith was not lost, she was going through a “dark night of the soul” as described by John of the Cross, the highest form of mystical union in the unitive stage of prayer, to purify her for union with God. I know it is your opinion that prayer does nothing, and that MT should have stopped praying and gotten an MD, but to those of us who think it has great impact on health outcomes, this is actually an essential part of what MT did. So the criticism of MT above only works from a secular perspective, not from a Catholic perspective. She isn’t a “secular saint,” but of course such a thing doesn’t exist.

        • Slipmatwax

          For those who live with the angels, they are plagued by an army of demons trying to knock them down

          • Ken Boycott

            What about the studies done on meditation?

            I’ve personally meditated on a daily basis and my body, mind, and spirit have been nourished tenfold since I started this form of spiritual nourishment.

          • everettt herbert

            Ken there is no serious doubt that meditating, chanting, singing, sleep deprivation and such can and do alter our brain states. I have experienced these myself, and the word glorious does not begin to come close the the actual experience. Thanks Ken

          • Erick Chastain

            Great stuff! What kind of practice do you guys have? Honestly without my daily practice I feel like something is missing. “Love, and do what thou wilt”

          • everettt herbert

            The experiences I was referring to was a Near Death Experience when I stopped breathing for over 7 minutes and the other was on a Vision Quest with 2 Shamans from Belize. The two were quite similar. And then there is meditating, no guru, instructions, chanting or making funny noises. Just sitting in a peaceful place and emptying mind of all thoughts. My experience is a calm peacefulness and sometimes bliss. Some people get so good at it they can sit down in a crowded mall and meditate, not me. After my NDE I spent over a year trying to put the experience down on papers, I never could. So for the next year I read and read trying to figure out what happened to me. I think I finally have a handle on it.

            Erick, if you want to check out something truly fascinating about spiritual experiences Google “God Helmet.”

            Good hunting

          • Erick Chastain

            Thanks for your reply. I really find it a delight to speak to someone who gets these phenomena. It brings me peace, so thanks for that.

            The Vision Quest sounds cool! My grandfather was from the Wayuu in Merida, Venezuela. What kind of brew did they use? Or was it more survival-oriented (go out into the forest alone for a time). I am planning right now to go to a 7-day silent retreat with the Jesuit order.

            I’ve heard of the God helmet. Richard Dawkins tried it, but it didn’t work for him. Anyway, it’s an interesting theory. I follow Rabbi/Kabbalist Aryeh Kaplan’s theory of how this works: some kind of “darkness” (Klippot) followed by “lights” (Nogah) and then a presence is felt, with deep feelings of peace and love, then a “wall of eyes,” and then a voice speaking from the place of lights upon a throne. According to him Buddha only got to the Nogah stage, but wasn’t cognitively engaged at the time, which is required for the latter stages.

          • Aly K.

            I completely agree with you.
            People who think prayers work and even believe that there is a specific way to measure it with specific parameters so that it delivers the results they want, don’t understand how actual studies work.

        • everettt herbert

          Thanks so much Erick. Yes it is my opinion that prayer does nothing, but it is more than just an opinion. In the largest study on the efficacy of prayer on sick people to date conducted by the Templeton Foundation shows that prayer has ZERO effect, except for one test group. Those who knew that they were being prayed for did slightly worse. Researchers think that was due to heightened expectations that brought on stress.

          Demon was not meant to be literal, just that I thought she was a horrible little person. I think I have very good reasons that brought me to that conclusion, it wasn’t always so.

          You are mistaken about what I thought MT should do. I have no opinion about what she should have done, I judge her for what she did in her Houses of Death and for the sham that she was.

          I can certainly see this from your mystical point of view, but I would never abandon logic to argue it from your point of view. At the same time I have no expectation of you stepping outside of your faith and seeing it from a critical, logical point of view. Thats why they call it faith,right?

          All my best to you.
          Everett

          • Erick Chastain

            thank you everett for your courteous reply. I agree with you that logic and reason are essential, and that those religions who speak of taking things “on faith” without reason are foolish if not outright evil.

            We believe there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. The incompatibility of faith and reason is called fideism, which is a heresy, and which is held by Evangelicals. Methodical research in all branches of knowledge can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and of faith derive from the same God (CCC 159). So perhaps the Templeton foundation’s research didn’t control for all of the factors involved in such a complex setting as you describe (clearly if the prayed for subjects were stressed, something weird was going on there). In any case, I’d be curious to hear your arguments from a critical, logical point of view as to why prayer cannot possibly work.

          • everettt herbert

            Thanks for the reply Eric. The Templeton Foundation is Christian set up by John Templeton. It appears to me that one of the objectives of the Foundation is to blur the line between religion and science. Believe me, this is not the result they were looking for.

            Another thing that leads me to think that prayer is a vacuous exercise, aside from any placebo effect, is my observation of how the world actually seems to work. I have personally anointed and prayed over a substantial number of people for there healing. Some got well over the natural course of time, for some the sickness lingered, perhaps to this day, and two of them died weeks later. I don’t see the hand of God in any of this.

            There are plenty of examples where millions of people prayed at one time for others to be spared and the heavens were deaf. From my own experience I can say with certainty that PRAYER DOES NOT WORK.

          • Erick Chastain

            I hear you! I know this from some of my friends too (who are into Crowley type visualization and shamanism). But it isn’t quantity it’s quality! The methodology most likely didn’t take into account the sanctity of the individuals involved. Moreover, those who prayed didn’t know the last name of the beneficiary of prayer which by standard thomistic psychology would lead to no effect when the prayer is done (see http://atheology.com/2006/03/31/templeton-prayer-study-flawed/ for a similar comment and more). As for my objection, I wouldn’t expect the prayer of an average christian to work very well because they aren’t really on speaking terms with God. We aren’t talking about common folks like us though, with efficacy of prayer. We are talking about MT, who was probably one of the foremost mystics of the 20th century. If they took contemplative nuns and repeated the study with proper controls and a theologically-correct theory of prayer, then maybe I would believe their conclusions more. Moreover the US bishops cite a study that shows an effect of prayer on fertility outcomes: http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/natural-family-planning/medical-research/upload/cmr-2002-v13-01-02-winter-spring.pdf .

          • CT14

            Because the evidence in studies show that it doesn’t?

          • Erick Chastain

            Is that an argument from logic as to why prayer can’t possibly work? What are your premises? What inference rules are you using?

          • Mike Woodford

            actually everettt you are completely wrong on what you said about prayer. i am no christian or catholic, don’t believe in the bible or jesus. but…….what is true is the power of the placebo, if people sincerely believe they will be cured, whether from prayer or belief in a pill, albeit a placebo pill, people actually do become healed. the power of prayer is all in ones mind, and that is a proven phenomenon!!!

          • everettt herbert

            Mike, I was not referring the Placebo Effect but is prayer effective in healing. The science says no. If you think prayer heals, when was the last time you saw a compound fracture healed while someone was praying over it? Have you ever heard of an amputee having a limb restored? I think you may be guilty of confirmation bias. My older brother had Polio and four decades of my family earnestly praying to god, One leg is still 2 1/2 inches shorter that the other one. Think about what you said and compare it to the real world. If you have any hard evidence I am open to changing my thinking.
            Thanks Mike

          • Mike Woodford

            http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=132674

            http://blogcritics.org/prayer-and-the-placebo/

            http://www.sciencedaily.com/…/1998/02/980227055013.htm

            http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.04/pear_pr.html

            http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

            so all the links above man are links that show that not only do we have mind powers, from peer studied reviews, such as princeton university, amongst many others i provided for you. yes prayer does help people recover. same with someone sincerely believing a placebo will help them!! we have power too heal ourselves!!

        • CT14

          It’s not opinion. Studies show no difference in people’s recoveries whether or not people are praying for them.

          She earned her sainthood by increasing the suffering of the poor, because she was under the delusion that their suffering was beautiful and helped purify the world.

          Utter bullshit. She didn’t even run a sanitary clinic. She should have used the money to pay for clean facilities and medical care.

          Instead, she funneled the money to the Vatican and bought a sainthood.

          • Erick Chastain

            It’s your opinion that badly-designed observational studies have any bearing at all on whether something is true or false. We know prayer works because there is a causal agent behind it. Canonization of a saint doesn’t happen that way. It requires two healing miracles, inexplicable by medical science, when the saint is prayed to for intercession. Again, the power of prayer. She earned her sainthood by healing.

          • CT14

            No, she bought it by funneling money to the Vatican.

          • maxime1793

            Really?! So you think Mother Theresa was a propaganda operation by the Vatican to get donations to her work funneled back to Rome? Wow… then tell me this? Why is it all her most vociferous critics are the standard centre-left semi-green atheist polemicists like Hitchens or the Guardian while Indian Hindus, who are often quite nationalist, seem neutral to highly praising of her? It would be quite easy for them to accuse her of being a Vatican imperial agent exploiting poor Indians!

            In fact, the main critics of Theresa are a very anti-poor, anti-Third World current of “the Left”. They would rather India lost most of its population.

          • CT14

            Yes, funneling money to the Vatican is important. Hiding child rape is also important and rewarded, which is why Bernard Law has a luxurious retirement in the Vatican where he can’t be extradited and why JPII is fast-tracked to sainthood.

            Mother Theresa ran unsanitary charnel houses and denied pain medication to dying people because she thought their suffering was beautiful. She was a monster,

            People who actually care about medicine and suffering provide palliative care. Most Catholics would be utterly appalled if they knew what Mother Theresa really did.

          • maxime1793

            Well, 80-90% of the child rapists were gay pædophiles or adolescento-philes (yes, there are meticulous statistics on this), but when you call that out you people scream “OMG U R SO HOMOPHOBIC!!!” And when the Vatican did anything to fix that problem (denying people who admitted gay tendencies into seminary), you people did scream, “OMG U R SO HOMOPHOBIC!!!”. And, of course, the people fixated on Catholic child abuse fail to notice the proportion of pædophilia in state-run CPS systems is much higher. It doesn’t matter – the point is to hate Catholics, that is why the loudest cries are often from those with the most libertine views on sex.

            So now that that is out of way, I don’t trust that you know a damn thing about Mother Theresa or her intentions outside of Hitchens/Penn & Teller, who are all vulgar Catholic-hating atheists. And if P&T are libertarians, Hitchens was a neoliberal imperialist, the leader of the left-wing supporters of the Iraq War, and favoured all Western wars after the Cold War. All I can say is that at least he opposed all religion more or less equally, as he was a leading Islamophobe. Neither P&T nor Hitchens are specifically interested in caring for the Third World poor.

            None of this is exactly “research”.

          • CT14

            Poor baby. So much easier to damn those who criticize your hypocrisy than to look a it with clear eyes.

            As for me? Raised Catholic. Family from the home of one of the 2 Benedictine archabbies in the US. Aunts and uncles from antiquity running convents and monasteries. Uncle considered for sainthood for saving the lives of children in the Peruvian earthquake on 1970.

            I undoubtedly know more about Catholicism than you do, because ikon not only the theology, but the way the hierarchy works.

            Mother Theresa brought in hundreds of millions of dollars. She ran filthy charnel houses and denied pain medication to people who were suffering. If she’s sainted, well, maybe that will cover it all up. Same thing for JPII: canonize him on a fast track before the paper trail showing that they always knew about the pedophilia damns him publicly.

            The hierarchy, especially since JPII, put the ordained above the merely baptized.

            Don’t try to hide behind pedophilia in other organizations, or “no true Scotsman”, or “hey–those people are worse so ignore what’s going on over here until you’ve fixed that”.

            Catholic priests and bishops hold themselves up as moral authorities. That makes their cover up worse.

            Not one bishop has ever faced punishment. Bernard Law is safely seconded in luxury at the Vatican because he is being rewarded for doing his job: protecting the brotherhood of priests.

            Real Catholics? Those who follow Christ? Are utterly sickened by the corruption in the hierarchy and don’t try to defend it. It needs to be rooted out.

            Pointing out the evil isn’t hating Catholics or Catholicism. It’s calling out evil. I’m sure you’ll continue to hide your eyes and pretend it’s all okay, though. Personally, I wish I could see their faces when they think St. Peter

          • everettt herbert

            How out of touch with reality can one person be? About 10% of all species exhibit homosexual tendencies. Pick up a science book some time, unless you are in Texas or North Carolina.

          • everettt herbert

            For someone pushing “don’t judge” I think you might want to look in the mirror. Just a thought. If I counted right you just made 4 judgments without a single reference to back up your accusations. You might consider removing the “beam” from your own eye.

      • maxime1793

        No, she didn’t.

    • maxime1793

      HUGO CHAVEZ. Thanks!

      These Chris Hitchens types would rather see the world depopulated, beginning with the disabled. Hitchens screamed and hollered for EVERY WAR since the end of the Cold War. Yet his minions here have the gall to scream Mother Theresa was a demon?

  • Greg Scott

    A friend of poverty,not a friend of the poor.

  • ufo42

    Right, as Hitch pointed out she loved the suffering, not the sufferers.

  • Charlotta Jones

    What the hell did she do with the MONEY? Surely she couldn’t have used it all to alleviate suffering according to the article above?

    • Laurie Lenig

      Charlotta, please, what did she do w/the money???? It’s known as the Vatican, and they answer to NO ONE…..

  • Scooter Livingston

    This woman was seriously fucked in the head….

    • ATL2013

      Which makes her the perfect symbolic figure for the depraved Catholic church

      • moonmad

        Nah, they already have enough.

  • liblass

    This article offered up nothing new in the form of information. It’s a known fact that she withheld hundreds of millions of dollars and enjoyed the spectacle of sick people suffering.

    • maxime1793

      As if you know what she enjoyed. Shame on you.

      • everettt herbert

        Here’s an idea. Instead of shaming, blaming, accusing and speaking as if you were right there with her, why don’t you buck up little camper, take a deep breath and bring something substantial to the table. “Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.”

        I’m sorry if I sound mean but thats how you come across to me. I picture you with a finger in each ear going NA NA NA NA NA NA., unwilling to listen to a view different from your own. If you are always defending your dogma, how will you ever be able to learn and understand new concepts and Ideas?

        Well thats just me, I don’t know you in the slightest and maybe you already know everything.

        My best to you Maxime

  • PaulMurrayCbr

    Roman Catholics have curiously quantitative idea of sin. ‘Sin’ is cancelled out by ‘grace’, on a strict liter for liter basis. You can get “grace” by partaking in holy communion, saying the rosary, etc. But one of the most reliable ways to generate grace is bodily suffering. That’s how purgatory works – spend long enough there, and the grace you get from its torments eventually add up and cancel out whatever sin might be left over from your life on earth.
    My personal theory, since these were heathen is that the grace didn’t actually stay with them. This how their sufferings “benefited the world”. She was farming them, tapping them for grace generated by their suffering, like we tap a rubber tree for its sap.

    • maxime1793

      I’m not a Catholic, and I do think the Catholics are too painstakingly legalistic, but they don’t really quantify sin and grace.

    • everettt herbert

      Didn’t the Whore of Babylon do away with that recently? Of course only after torturing untold numbers of family members for centuries with that vile and wicked doctrine.

      I guess with that infallible bullshit was just smoke and mirrors after all. I wonder what dogma is next to give way to modernity and take it’s place in the Dustbins of History in the Really Stupid Ideas Section?

  • Alma Elizabeth Vasquez Jr

    if you were given a million dollars to help the poor, how would you use the money? seems teresa just opened up hotels for the poor to die in, plus a marketing campaign to get more money. so, the poor would not die in the streets, they would die under a roof, a little bit of dignity in death. …too bad she didn’t cure heart disease, or cancer, the real killers of this age.

    • CT14

      Filthy hotels.

      She could have at least kept the places sanitary.

      • maxime1793

        India is unsanitary.

  • ElRonbo

    So where did the money end up? Some priests driving nice Benzs?

  • maxime1793

    This is disgusting, though I have heard the claims before.

    Who cares if Mother Theresa met some dictators? Have any of you met murderous White House officials or Congressmen who vote to kill hundreds of thousands of people, who vote to approve torture and spying and drone warfare? I bet some of you have done so without acting as if you had just made a pact with Satan (in fact, there is a better chance the encounter made you feel more powerful and respected).

    Sorry, but Chris Hitchens, who was known for being an atheist polemicist and died alone, unhappy, and estranged from his own family, and some Québecois researchers nitpicking at how much money *they think* should have been doled out to this or that is not a very impressive case.

    If you don’t pray to Theresa as a saint, that’s fine, neither do I, but don’t pretend she is a demon. That’s disgusting.

    • everettt herbert

      So your argument is, these assholes over there did some really rotten shit and didn’t caught or punished, so the Catholic wretch gets a free pass because, well, HEY IT’S RELIGION.

  • Abhinav Raj

    I just want to ask one question. Where did she get all the money to “help” the poor? What productive work did she do? I would rather prefer a tata or even a reliance for that matter who bring down the cost of day to day life rather than sitting idly and “praying” for the poor. The poor do not need prayers, they need food, medicine and shelter. This cannot be provided for unless they have work for themselves, which they can find in steel mills, not prayer houses. Prayer can offer nothing but hunger. Prayer for good luck is a different thing and praying hopelessly for ( actually what? What did she actually pray for, does anyone know the content of her prayers?) all the problems to go away without even once trying to solve them is a different thing. The world does not run in this fashion. We gave her the Nobel Prize for peace. What peace did she achieve for the world? I can’t seem to recollect.

    • Aly K.

      That’s the point. She got all her money from dictactors, mafia bosses and the likes. She didn’t do anything productive except toot her own horn about how great she is.
      The only thing she did was give them shelter, shelter that wouldn’t be considered shelter to even beggars. Even a cardboard box would be my hygienic than her “care facilities”.

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    what a pathetic person she was, horrible. She is in hell now where she belongs. Suffer this bitch.

    • Erick Chastain

      So you believe in hell as a place? How does one get there?

      • The Well Dressed Man

        Keep hanging around these parts, kiddo. We’ll show you the way.

        • Erick Chastain

          Thanks, I know the way already :) . I’ve had too many trips to the lower astral planes.

    • maxime1793

      ” Suffer this bitch.”

      SYNTAX…?

  • Alaquatta

    This is the problem with this generation! ALways “Researching” ! This is bullshit Blasphemous against a women of great charity! God have mercy on you’re souls.

    • everettt herbert

      Alaquatta, I’m sorry dear but you are on the wrong side of the fence on this one. May Zeus have mercy on your soul.

      Does that have a lot of meaning to you? I didn’t think so. You sound just as foolish when you throw your silly babble out there for all the world to see.

    • http://imjinah.blogspot.com/ imjinah

      Plus, your*

  • wlipman

    The Nobel Peace Prize. Not the first time it has been improvidently awarded. Henry Kissinger, for a start, anybody?

    • maxime1793

      Obama!

    • everettt herbert

      Well, if they gave it to a war criminal guilty of crimes against humanity, why not a vertically challenged sadist.

  • http://spiritnewsdaily.com/ Donovan Moore

    Just another in a long line of cons.

  • Joshua Cuyos

    “There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,” – Sadist much?

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