Cure For Child Born With HIV Virus

No one can explain how, but the first human with the HIV virus has been cured reports the Guardian:

Doctors in the US have made medical history by effectively curing a child born with HIV, the first time such a case has been documented.

The infant, who is now two and a half, needs no medication for HIV, has a normal life expectancy and is highly unlikely to be infectious to others, doctors believe.

Though medical staff and scientists are unclear why the treatment was effective, the surprise success has raised hopes that the therapy might ultimately help doctors eradicate the virus among newborns.

Doctors did not release the name or sex of the child to protect the patient’s identity, but said the infant was born, and lived, in Mississippi state. Details of the case were unveiled on Sunday at the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Atlanta.

Dr Hannah Gay, who cared for the child at the University of Mississippi medical centre, told the Guardian the case amounted to the first “functional cure” of an HIV-infected child. A patient is functionally cured of HIV when standard tests are negative for the virus, but it is likely that a tiny amount remains in their body.

“Now, after at least one year of taking no medicine, this child’s blood remains free of virus even on the most sensitive tests available,” Gay said.

“We expect that this baby has great chances for a long, healthy life. We are certainly hoping that this approach could lead to the same outcome in many other high-risk babies,” she added…

[continues in the Guardian]

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139 Comments on "Cure For Child Born With HIV Virus"

  1. BuzzCoastin | Mar 4, 2013 at 9:44 am |

    > the medical staff and scientists are unclear why the treatment was effective

    kinda sums up modern medicine nicely

  2. BuzzCoastin | Mar 4, 2013 at 9:44 am |

    > the medical staff and scientists are unclear why the treatment was effective

    kinda sums up modern medicine nicely

    • bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 10:47 am |

      I’m going to give you a chance to walk that statement back before I explain to you, in explicit detail, how ignorant that is in so many different ways. So go ahead, let’s hear it.

      • Everything you say and think is a psyop.

      • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 11:09 am |

        Because this birth/cure is a Psyop
        that has emerged from the kuntries

        collective faith in SciOps Breeding Programs

        to further enslave the sheeple
        in the Land of the Free

      • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm |

        “In our cohort, we showed that an unexpected number of children born to HIV-seropositive mothers (6.7%) cleared HIV infection during the first year of life, and subsequently became seronegative”

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8605047

      • Matt Staggs | Mar 4, 2013 at 4:14 pm |

        Just ignore me standing over here with my paper and pen. I’m conducting research for a new book titled “Bait, and How Not to Take it”.

        • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:30 pm |

          Will their be a Chapter on Sea Cucumbers?

        • bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 11:22 pm |

          I can’t help it. Its like…. right there. And it looks so tasty.

          • Matt Staggs | Mar 5, 2013 at 4:54 pm |

            I have eaten
            the troll-bait
            that was in
            the comment section

            and which
            you were probably
            about to address
            for the lulz

            Forgive me
            they were delicious
            so sweet
            and so cold

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm |

            Dear lord, FSM, I seem see to have taken
            A big giant bite of some greasy troll bacon
            I could not help myself for it looked so damn delicious
            Though I know that the stuff is so perfectly pernicious

            I can’t help but think that if I eat just enough
            My lust for satisfaction with wane with the glut
            But alas! Despite every bite that I gorge
            The trolls just keep throwing out more upon more!

            I think that their goal must be so terrible a notion
            To blow my ass up in a troll bacon explosion?
            Or maybe their aim is to simply dishearten?
            To incite a troll bacon myocardial infarction?

            I’m not really sure why these troll baiters persist
            Or why I am so utterly unable to resist
            Maybe they just think it is funny to watch
            As I gobble troll bacon like a pig at a trough

            Or maybe their agenda is a more sinister scheme
            To convert all intelligent conversation they see
            Into an ugly Hungry-hungry-hippos-like state
            Of people fighting and feuding over delicious troll bait.

            I’m not really sure but dear god FSM
            Please give me the strength to resist all of them!
            I don’t have the power to resist on my own
            I can’t fight the need for troll bacon alone!

            This a plea, and a plight, and an act of contrition
            For if you don’t rid me of this troll bacon addiction
            I’m afraid that one day I might simply awaken
            To find myself turned into a hunk of troll bacon!

      • BuzzCoastin | Mar 4, 2013 at 7:04 pm |

        usually I ignore you
        but since you think modern medicine is da bomb
        why not knock me out with some facts
        you know, data, not ideas implanted in your head by media

        • The burden is really on you to educate yourself

          • BuzzCoastin | Mar 4, 2013 at 10:00 pm |

            how about this:
            I spent 20 years working in the cancer industry
            I know thousands of doctors & researchers
            I’ve owned cancer treatment facilities
            what’s your cred?

            and why the change of ID from David Howe to Guest?

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 12:39 am |

            It actually happened right after I told him to “piss off.”
            😛

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 12:39 am |

            It actually happened right after I told him to “piss off.”
            😛

          • You scared ‘m bro! Hey guest why be scurred? We are all friends here

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 1:22 am |

            I know! I didn’t realize I could command people like that! But Guest should come back. I was agreeing with him in another thread. I even found myself voting up one of Bobbiethejean’s posts the other day. Weird.

          • Calypso_1 | Mar 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |

            counter-transference from the approaching singularity

          • Calypso_1 | Mar 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |

            counter-transference from the approaching singularity

        • kowalityjesus | Mar 6, 2013 at 2:08 am |

          I could site me mum’s incontrovertible remission of lymphoma using state-of-the-art chemo drugs. But then this event also prompted my removal from Baltimore where I was converting to Catholicism, and where all my RCIA teachers and peers promised their fervent prayers, so I think the datum is tainted.

        • Kevin Leonard | Mar 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm |

          The cunt says “Hi”

  3. bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 10:49 am |

    And people wonder why I am so quick to come to the defense of science. THIS is why.

    • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 11:15 am |

      Ha! but scientists don’t understand how the mind works or quantum physix & stuff.*

      *see Sasquatch defense

      • I know when scientists are wrong because I can feel it in my gut and my heart.

      • bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm |

        Quantum physix & stuff!? *le gasp* DRAT! I have been confounded! Whatever shall I do!?

      • mannyfurious | Mar 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm |

        They understand that certain things happen in the brain when certain things are happening in the “mind.” That doesn’t equal causation. It’s like hunger. Certain things happen in the brain of a hungry person. Does that person need a pill to restore some kind of equilibrium, or does that person need a sandwich?

      • mannyfurious | Mar 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm |

        They understand that certain things happen in the brain when certain things are happening in the “mind.” That doesn’t equal causation. It’s like hunger. Certain things happen in the brain of a hungry person. Does that person need a pill to restore some kind of equilibrium, or does that person need a sandwich?

        • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:02 pm |

          the ENS is a brain

          • mannyfurious | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:18 pm |

            Right. I get that, and I’m not going to argue with you on that point, but I’m not sure what I’m supposed to infer from this response.

          • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:26 pm |

            This man is carrying a bladder on a stick.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm |

            You are like the offspring of Vonnegut and Plato.
            Is there a book you have written that I can read?
            or maybe just point me to the right drugs?

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm |

            You are like the offspring of Vonnegut and Plato.
            Is there a book you have written that I can read?
            or maybe just point me to the right drugs?

          • Calypso_1 | Mar 4, 2013 at 6:53 pm |

            I am available for individual consultation.

            You may contact Matt Staggs matt@disinfo.com to receive an email address if you so wish.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm |

            You are like the offspring of Vonnegut and Plato.
            Is there a book you have written that I can read?
            or maybe just point me to the right drugs?

    • Yeah, Hurray for Science! A baby spontaneously gets cured of AIDS and Scientists are unsure why. Its a Scientific Miracle!

    • “How did the baby get cured?”

      “Why, SCIENCE, of course!!”
      “yeah, but how exactly did it occur?”
      “These people are SMART. They have advanced degrees!! They wear white lab coats I simply have FAITH that they must have figured it out somehow! Praise DAWKINS! Praise Peer Review!

      • bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm |

        HAH! I’ve got your number this time, Teddy-boy! This time I know you are being sarcastic! *crosses arms all self-satisfied-like.*

      • what the hell is wrong with you? Did you read the fricken’ article? Three antiretroviral drugs were used.

        • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 9:51 pm |

          Did you?
          “Though medical staff and scientists are unclear why the treatment was effective…”

        • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 9:51 pm |

          Did you?
          “Though medical staff and scientists are unclear why the treatment was effective…”

          • i wonder if there is a cure for poor reading comprehension?

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 9:55 pm |

            You should jump on that drug.

          • it was perfectly clear what treatment was used. The fact that they don’t have a full explanation is immaterial.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 10:00 pm |

            You might consider re-reading Ted’s comment. And then talk to me again about reading comprehension.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 4, 2013 at 10:08 pm |

            And then there is this. According to the PubMed article I linked ” seven out of 12 reversions [of 6.7% children who became sero-negative in the first year of their life] cannot be attributed to antiretroviral therapy”

            Logic dictates that it was only a matter of time before a baby dropped HIV on its own and just happened to be getting the exact same drugs that other babies have gotten, only more of them.

            Bingo! Cure! Viral posts about viruses!

            Shall we start looking at all of the statistics that show perfectly healthy HIV+ children, taking herbs, eating plenty of organic veggies, maintaining a good pH balance, then get forced into state-approved HIV regimens and then get sick and die?

            Fuck, yeah! Science!

            Piss off.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 4, 2013 at 11:44 pm |

            “Shall we start looking at all of the statistics that show perfectly
            healthy HIV+ children, taking herbs, eating plenty of organic veggies,
            maintaining a good pH balance, then get forced into state-approved HIV
            regimens and then get sick and die?”

            Oh yes, please, let’s see these alleged statistics.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 12:16 am |

            My bad. I should have used the word “stories.”
            I was a little hot under the collar when I wrote that.

            http://liamscheff.com/2009/01/new-york-times-children-die-in-aids-drug-trials-but-the-drugs-are-fine-fine-fine/
            http://livingwithouthivdrugs.com/

            Don’t get me wrong. I understand that HIV drugs prolong lives. I wish they had been around for my father. But this hoopla and gloating by materialist blow-hards and headlines calling it a “cure” is premature, especially when the doctor “fully expected that the baby would have a high viral load” after five months with no treatment. Seriously, how the fuck can you go about claiming that science did that?

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 5, 2013 at 7:45 am |

            Two conspiracy websites, both with a well-know reputation of disseminating misinformation. No. Let’s try a credible source like a medical journal or a major news outlet, eh? Then I will take what you’re saying seriously because at the moment, you’re coming across like a conspiracy nutter.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 10:40 am |

            livingwithouthivdrugs.com is a conspiracy website with a well known reputation? Are you actually being serious? And you expect a major news outlets to report the entire truth? And you expect a medical journal to report anything that contradicts its advertisers?

            You are delusional.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 11:00 am |

            You’re the one who keeps throwing out known, nonsense conspiracy sites. That’s the third time now! You can call me delusional all you like- doesn’t bother me because I have no respect for the opinion of someone who gets his beliefs from conspiracy sites.

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not blind. I absolutely believe our medical system is rife with corruption and abuses. But my opinions and beliefs on that matter are based on fact, logic, evidence, and even a little bit of personal experience. You get your opinions spoon fed to you from conspiracy sites that cater to your emotional needs. Sad.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 6, 2013 at 12:26 pm |

            Can you even count? Look at all of medical journals I have linked. I have another dozen or so waiting for you if you ever decide to engage the logic of this article, and other comments here, rather than issue distractions.

            Aside from the fact that you are committing the logical fallacy of poisoning the well, do you seriously consider any website or person that speaks about something that does not conform to establishment paradigm to be a nutter? If that is the case, then I welcome the term with open arms and all my heart. I’m reclaiming the term.

            I find it incredibly ironic that you consider my opinions to be spoonfed. You, madam, are brainwashed. And that is not an ad hominem, but a logical deduction.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 1:08 pm |

            Yeah, you’ll have to excuse me if I lose track of all the comments you leave EVERYWHERE because apparently you have nothing better to do with your life. Look up confirmation bias. That’s all I’m going to say because any rebuttal I formulate will be lost on someone who doesn’t understand what that is.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 1:08 pm |

            Yeah, you’ll have to excuse me if I lose track of all the comments you leave EVERYWHERE because apparently you have nothing better to do with your life. Look up confirmation bias. That’s all I’m going to say because any rebuttal I formulate will be lost on someone who doesn’t understand what that is.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 3:33 pm |

            http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/copout?s=t&path=/ I know what confirmation bias is and how to avoid. You are a walking exemplar of what confirmation bias is.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 6, 2013 at 3:40 pm |

            lol.
            I think I am going to try and follow BuzzCoastin’s wisdom about you from now on.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 6, 2013 at 3:40 pm |

            lol.
            I think I am going to try and follow BuzzCoastin’s wisdom about you from now on.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 3:58 pm |

            Well, fucktards of a feather flock together. You two have fun now. 😉 Tell buzzy I said hi.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 10:51 am |

            And I notice that you didn’t respond to my critique of the “science” in the article. You only threw out a red herring and an ad hominem.

          • Kevin Leonard | Mar 5, 2013 at 10:51 am |

            And I notice that you didn’t respond to my critique of the “science” in the article. You only threw out a red herring and an ad hominem.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 11:05 am |

            Yeah, sorry, I have better things to do with my life than try to address every item of BS in your Gish gallop tirade.

          • medical journals and major news outlets are hardly credible. Disinfo and misinfo abounds, whether its here, major news outlets or conspiracy sites, so its best for us to remain hypervigilant and critical.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 4:41 pm |

            Hardly credible huh? Tell that to my mother who is alive today because she was able to get a liver transplant.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 4:41 pm |

            Hardly credible huh? Tell that to my mother who is alive today because she was able to get a liver transplant.

          • Please read the first paragraph Mr. Leonard wrote:

            And then there is this. According to the PubMed article I linked ” seven out of 12 reversions [of 6.7% children who became sero-negative in the first year of their life] cannot be attributed to antiretroviral therapy”

            Science dictates that if more than 50% gained the same effect without treatment, then you can not -Can Not- attribute the results from the treatment. This is no trivial matter.

          • Please read the first paragraph Mr. Leonard wrote:

            And then there is this. According to the PubMed article I linked ” seven out of 12 reversions [of 6.7% children who became sero-negative in the first year of their life] cannot be attributed to antiretroviral therapy”

            Science dictates that if more than 50% gained the same effect without treatment, then you can not -Can Not- attribute the results from the treatment. This is no trivial matter.

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 12:05 pm |

            Cannot reply in depth a the moment. Life awaits. I will come back and see what this is all about later. If it turns out I’m wrong, I will spin on a dime.

          • I think i once heard a homeopath use that argument.

          • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness | Mar 5, 2013 at 4:25 am |

            I call shenanigans. That’s not how science works.

          • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness | Mar 5, 2013 at 4:25 am |

            I call shenanigans. That’s not how science works.

    • mannyfurious | Mar 4, 2013 at 1:26 pm |

      Science obviously works. Only an idiot who is using a computer with access to the internet, while the never-ending hum of car engines and airplanes, um, hums in the background would deny that science is useful in many ways.

      Some of us question, one, whether the trade-offs are worth it (i.e.would AIDS even be an issue if science and civilization-as-we-know-it weren’t so rampant?), two, while certain kinds of data in and of themselves are “objective,” how that data is interpreted is never objective, and, three, we wonder if there are limits to what “science” can tell us about “reality” beyond the realm of how our human consciousness makes sense of it (and certain kinds of science seem to suggest that this is in fact so).

      Don’t get me wrong, just because I don’t worship at the altar of science doesn’t mean I wouldn’t depend on it to save my life if the situation called for it. It doesn’t mean I don’t pop an Ibuprofen when I get a headache. It doesn’t mean I don’t drive my car to work. It doesn’t mean I don’t use a cell phone. it doesn’t mean I don’t take the elevator when one is available. Etc.

      • so you’ll use science when it suits you, but if you don’t understand it, you will reject it. Duly noted.

        • mannyfurious | Mar 5, 2013 at 11:13 am |

          Instead of actually reading comments, you’ll skim through them just enough to get a strong sense of self-satisfaction and leave smug, douchey responses.

          Duly noted.

        • mannyfurious | Mar 5, 2013 at 11:13 am |

          Instead of actually reading comments, you’ll skim through them just enough to get a strong sense of self-satisfaction and leave smug, douchey responses.

          Duly noted.

        • The Guest of Honor!

    • science is simply curing the problems it caused. I would hope it would at least do that.

      • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 4:15 pm |

        Science did not cause HIV or AIDS.

        • whether or not HIV or AIDS is lab created is up for debate, as is Lyme disease ad other potential biological warfare agents. I understand that.

          But scientific “progress” has made conditions ripe for the proliferation of HIV and pandemics and plagues.
          Don’t praise progress without also being aware of the collateral damage, too.(literal and metaphorical)

          • bobbiethejean | Mar 6, 2013 at 4:45 pm |

            I’m very well aware but that is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Some people are claiming that we should not treat people with HIV and instead let them eat veggies. Ridiculous. I wonder if they would say the same thing about Ebola.

  4. lazy_friend | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm |

    “doctors believe”

  5. lazy_friend | Mar 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm |

    “doctors believe”

  6. Congratulations to that two-and-half year old!

  7. Congratulations to that two-and-half year old!

  8. Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness | Mar 5, 2013 at 4:36 am |

    Now that racism is over and AIDS is cured, I want the hoverboard I was promised.

  9. JoiquimCouteau | Mar 6, 2013 at 12:22 am |

    More like, ‘Child Given HIV Test That Is Interpreted To Be ‘Positive’ And Later Tests ‘Negative’ Despite Being Given Antiretrovirals’.
    This happens all the time; the HIV tests have never been based on any sort of ‘gold standard’; the reference they test against is the blood of people who ‘clearly had AIDS’, and people frequently test positive, then negative. There are dozens of other disease conditions known to produce a ‘false’ positive HIV test.

    What’s surprising is that the child tested negative despite taking drugs which themselves produce the symptoms of AIDS.

  10. JoiquimCouteau | Mar 6, 2013 at 12:22 am |

    More like, ‘Child Given HIV Test That Is Interpreted To Be ‘Positive’ And Later Tests ‘Negative’ Despite Being Given Antiretrovirals’.
    This happens all the time; the HIV tests have never been based on any sort of ‘gold standard’; the reference they test against is the blood of people who ‘clearly had AIDS’, and people frequently test positive, then negative. There are dozens of other disease conditions known to produce a ‘false’ positive HIV test.

    What’s surprising is that the child tested negative despite taking drugs which themselves produce the symptoms of AIDS.

  11. Was Timothy Ray Brown (“the Berlin patient”) not the first to be cured from HIV, making this child the second? Or was it Magic Johnson who gets the honor?
    For many reports, undetectable levels of the virus are comfortably synonymous with cured. Always the potential that the virus could beat the immune system again, similar to other virus’ like chickenpox/shingles, but it’s a start.

  12. I suspect a lot of the bickering in these comments could be defused if people on both sides of the issue kept in mind the difference between believing in something there is no scientific proof of, like god or an afterlife, and disbelieving in things science has proven, like evolution, because your gut or an old book contradicts them.

  13. I suspect a lot of the bickering in these comments could be defused if people on both sides of the issue kept in mind the difference between believing in something there is no scientific proof of, like god or an afterlife, and disbelieving in things science has proven, like evolution, because your gut or an old book contradicts them.

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