Wind Turbine Syndrome is Bullshit

Peter Sinclair writes at Climate Denial Crock of the Week:

All manner of vapors, demonic possession, bad juju, soured milk and frightened horses have been blamed on wind turbines, especially by phony, fossil funded “grass roots” organization that are, let’s say, tea party top-heavy in their views. If a fraction of it were true, we’d be seeing thousands of body bags coming out of Germany and Denmark.

Fortunately and, you already knew this – its all bullshit.

Guardian:

Sickness being attributed to wind turbines is more likely to have been caused by people getting alarmed at the health warnings circulated by activists, an Australian study has found.

Complaints of illness were far more prevalent in communities targeted by anti-windfarm groups, said the report’s author, Simon Chapman, professor of public health at Sydney University. His report concludes that illnesses being blamed on windfarms are more than likely caused by the psychological effect of suggestions that the turbines make people ill, rather than by the turbines themselves.

“If windfarms were intrinsically unhealthy or dangerous in some way, we would expect to see complaints applying to all of them, but in fact there is a large number where there have been no complaints at all,” Chapman said.

The report, which is the first study of the history of complaints about windfarms in Australia, found that 63% had never been subject to noise or health complaints. In the state of Western Australia, where there are 13 windfarms, there have been no complaints.

The study shows that the majority of complaints (68%) have come from residents near five windfarms that have been heavily targeted by opponent groups. The report says more than 80% of complaints about health and noise began after 2009 when the groups “began to add health concerns to their wider opposition”.

Read more here.

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  • alizardx

    A Modest Proposal: require that all wind turbines be set up so their alleged harmful infrasonic emissions are tuned to “the brown note”.

    • Ittabena

      Lol, I did not see that coming.

  • jnana

    I would like pro-industrial windpower people to prove to me that wind power provides net energy.
    People who do live near them, if not physically harmed by them, are at least really annoyed, by the noise, dead birds, flung ice chunks, and strobe light effects on roads. Also, they have an environmental impact because they tend to be built in isolated areas that should be protected, like alpine zones. But, I guess all of this could be justified if they were replacing more harmful sources of energy, like coal, but they don’t because they DO NOT provide energy.

    Alternative energy sources are a scam. People want to have their cake and eat it, too. Either we can abandon our “progress” or destroy the earth. There are going to be no alternatives. I don’t care about Tesla or what have you, it just ain’t gonna happen. I’ve actually considered helping a guy build windmills and leasing them out, which would be a great idea, because its recycled material and its small scale. Small scale sources of alternative energy will work, but they still demand a radical change in lifestyle/consumption. One of these individuals happened to be part of the alternative energy club, they experimented w/ hydrogen power cars and stuff(real dangerous, by the way) and taught me a lot about energy. They wanted alternative energy to be feasible, but recognize it just isn’t going to provide what gasoline and nuclear can.

    • Charlie Primero

      And after the billions of dollars in subsidy have been extracted from taxpayers, the giant energy corporations then abandon the turbines. They become environmental and safety disaster zones local governments and landowners are responsible for cleaning up. Another example of the fascistic national socialist grifting that Good German always supports.

      • David Duke-Astin

        to say nothing of the boxcars full of Jews

      • nogeeksadmin

        What?

      • jnana

        Funny how Hitler called his system National Socialism, which wasn’t exactly socialistic, but now Germany is exactly that, “National Socialism”.
        Fourth Reich, maybe?
        What about Hitler’s obsessions w/ lefty ideals like vegetarianism “environmentalism” and pseudo-shamanism newagey stuff? And population control/eugenics? His artsy fartsy side?
        Was hitler the first hipster? ;)

    • BuzzCoastin

      > Alternative energy sources are a scam.

      I’m not up to speed on wind power, but there are plenty of “alternative” energy sources beyond fossil fuels. Toady, about 30% of Der Homeland’s energy comes from alternative sources. Uncle Homeland’s military is the largest single user of both fossil fuels & alternative energy in the world.

      Campbell Soup runs BioMethane digesters to power many of it’s plants. WalMart is converting all its parking lots to LED lights. All new WalMarts are now LED lighted, many have solar power & fuel cells. Napal has halted deforestation, reduced poverty and improved the well being of its people thanks to BioMethane digesters.
      ·
      A BioMethane Digester processes 1 ton of organic waste to produce ~160 kWh of electricity.
      A 3-5 ton a day plant construction costs about $500K & takes ~6 months to build.
      A digerster generates electricity, methane, polymer, mulch and carbon & tax credits.

      • jnana

        well, i’m all for more alternative energy sources. I just believe they are a very weak palliative. We need drastic change, which I don’t foresee people making willingly. Perhaps Nature can help us out with that.

        • BuzzCoastin

          if trends continue unabated
          alternative/renewable will provide about 60% of Homeland energy in 5-7 years

          cleantechnica.com seems to be a good source for up to date alternatives

          • jnana

            I would like to know how good that renewable energy really is. Solar power involves rare metals being extracted in China, my understanding is wind doesn’t provide positive net energy, and what are the details on the other sources? Most people have some sort of stake in this issue. Perhaps they support Big Oil b/c they make money from thm or don’t care about the environment, or perhaps they support alternative source b/c they make money from it, or care about the environment and want to have a clean conscience consuming energy. That’s the problem w/ a lot of the data is its biased one way or the other. I would like to see someone who doesn’t have a stake either way, to let me know. So far, with the people I’ve talked to, locals who live near wind, and alternative energy buffs, is that wind is not productive on a large scale. If you live in a fairly windy area and set up yer own windmill to power yer house, that, I believe, is truly beneficial. Large scale is mostly what I’m against.

          • BuzzCoastin

            There are no perfect solutions to producing renewable energy, but one thing is very clear, fossil fuels have reached they end of their useful cycle and environmental impact wise, no better than solar. I’ll take solar pollution over Fracking any day.

            Right now the dairy farms, landfills and sewage treatment systems of Der Homeland produce enough methane to power the country and have a surplus. Only about 15% of that is collected; most of it is burned as waste. Why’s that? Ask Big Oil & Big Gas.

            But the most important feature of a solar system is freedom from the Grid and that it makes you a producer instead of a consumer. Something you’ve been programed not to want.

    • alizardx

      Here you go:Energy from Wind: A Discussion of the EROI Research http://www.theoildrum.com/node/1863

      • jnana

        I see that they’re profitable, but I don’t see detailed data that proves they provide more energy than they consume in their 25 year lifespan. How much energy does it take to extract the metals? How much energy is expended to truck them? How much energy to set them up and maintain them? From what I understand, they never or barely provide more energy than they’ve used. If we truly want clean energy these questions have to be answered. I’m all for it if it can provide positive clean energy, I just don’t want to be duped.

    • nogeeksadmin

      “Alternative energy sources are a scam”

      You are the Poster Child for this article. Congratulations.

      • jnana

        I’m sorry that I’m questioning what others tell me. From my understanding, it mostly is. Believe me, I want to believe in it. I try to live a life that gives back more and takes little, and renewable energy would help with that, if it really were as good as it says it is. People want to believe in it. I’ve lived in alternative energy communities, I’ve explored it enough to not gt my hopes up.

  • Haystack

    That’s, um, what Big Wind wants you to believe?

  • Hadrian999

    looking out on a night sky crowded with blinking red lights does hurt the soul a little

    • Jin The Ninja

      better than not seeing the sky at all- obscured behind giant clouds of noxious smoke from the coal plant.

  • lazy_friend

    Just add energy collecting technology to gyms, toll plazas, even revolving doors.

  • KevinOwen

    Of course they are psychosomatic. All of them can be handled with workable psychotherapy [Not Psych Psychotherapy, now obsolete].

    “Experts estimate that psychosomatic illnesses account for up to 70 percent of man’s ills, including being too fat or too thin, migraines, allergies and other afflictions not strictly caused by physical
    reasons.”

    “Psychosomatic refers to mind and somatic refers to body; the term psychosomatic means the mind making the body ill or illnesses which have been created physically within the body by
    derangment of the mind”

    “The human body was found to be extremely capable of repairing itself when the stored memories of pain were cancelled. Further it was discovered that so long as the stored pain remained,
    the doctoring of what are called psychosomatic ills, such as arthritis, could not result in anything
    permanent.”
    http://www.psychosomatic-healing.co.nz/dianetics.html

    • David Duke-Astin

      so frustrating

  • swing

    Ask the birds…Nobody knows why a growing number of them are choosing the sorroundings of windfarms to die…A new mystery, probably globa warming is to blame ..sure.

  • rtb61

    More accurately wind turbine syndrome is the right wing politics selfishness and greed at it’s most blatant.
    Primary cause, greed, how can my neighbour make money out of wind blowing across my property without me getting a share.
    Secondary, selfishness, screw everyone else, I think the wind turbine spoils my view.
    Want to see the majority of complaints then just pay the complainers something for nothing and watch that greed and selfishness problem be instantly solved.

  • Tchoutoye

    I suggest the name “Quixotisis” for this syndrome.

  • http://twitter.com/TedHeistman Ted Heistman

    I don’t think they look that bad. They are a lot more aesthetically pleasing than fracking. So lots of people buy into abiotic oil theory and don’t think there is any climate change going on? And this is somehow associated with support of Ron Paul?

    That is what I gather from disinfo.

    I guess I don’t get it. And I am going to need something beyond Jeff Rense to convince me oil is an infinitely renewable resource. I don’t doubt there has been artificial scarcity created with oil, but eventually it will run out, plus it pollutes the atmosphere and ocean. Solar and wind are the way to go. Unless zero point energy is real and can be harnessed. Then I’d go with that. But you know, that might not be real.

    • nogeeksadmin

      Please leave Ron Paul (and his idiot offspring) out of the discussion. TYVM.

    • Jeremy

      - “Unless zero point energy is real and can be harnessed. Then I’d go with that. But you know, that might not be real.”

      Ted, I applaud you for bringing that up. From what I’ve seen, it is very real. Although my word means nothing to anyone here – I ask you this: How much of a threat would ZPE be to the energy industries if mass produced? Ask yourself that question and think about what lengths they’d be willing to go to suppress it. Think about how much they try to suppress alternative energies already. Even benign forms such as wind, solar, biomethane, etc.. Can we even begin to imagine what they’d do to stop an earth shattering technology like ZPE from coming to fruition?

      But all that is just conspiracy theory hub bub, nothing to be taken seriously…..

    • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

      clearly we’re just resetting the earth, taking all the ancient underground biomass and bringing it to the surface, you know… for fun or something

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient