Should the State Seize Your Firearms if You’re On Meds?

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The attorney for a New York State man claims his client’s firearms license was revoked after the state learned he was on an anti-anxiety medication. Is this a sign of future things to come? Should the state be able to seize your firearms if you’re on certain medications?

Via LiveScience:

An attorney for an upstate New York gun owner claims his client’s permit to own firearms was suspended by state police because he received a prescription for anti-anxiety medication.

“It’s disconcerting to know that if your doctor prescribes you a psychotropic medication … that results in the state police trolling to pick up this information, and if you do have a gun license, it will be revoked,” Jim Tresmond, attorney and gun-rights advocate, told Buffalo news station WKBW.com.

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  • Hadrian999

    this will lead to large numbers of veterans not seeking treatment for psychological problems, I’m sure that will turn out well.

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      Not just veterans.

    • BuzzCoastin

      you’re right, I failed to see the upside of this
      most of what passes for psychological treatment
      is the dispensing of meds, which can make them crazier
      and
      I’m not all that concerned with trained & armed ex-soldiers
      shooting up the place
      it would be just comeuppance
      and I rarely hang out there because of that

      • kowalityjesus

        that’s why I stay away from shrinks. their one tool besides talking, which is cheap, is the prescription pad.

        a good set of confidants and Jesus are an ideal alternative.

  • dani pettas

    This is like targeting people who are getting treatment, instead of focusing on those who should be getting help, but aren’t. I don’t like that the “debate” has been only about guns, and not about how to improve mental health access.

  • BuzzCoastin

    in the years I’ve been absent from Der Homeland
    I’ve noticed a trend towards Precrime prevention
    rights need to forfeited if you are determined to be a possible deviant
    and they need to be forfeited in order to determine if you should forfeit them
    that’s really the American Way

    • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

      reading like a programmer: “rights need to forfeited if you are determined to be a possible deviant” possible translation ‘if you are determined to be a possible deviant then [rights need] = forfeited ‘ … next … “and they need to be forfeited in order to determine if you should forfeit them” possible translation routed per recommendation of combinatorial through virtual processor … questions of purity seemingly introduct mixture … solving … genus problem detected … counter class problem worst case scenario hypothesized … computing power requirements … wait “in order” … question word meaning … order … confuscation of command possible … adjutant recommends combinatorial processment … self-awareness as axiom as counter class problem as vertical scratch that as axial as ability to reprogram … computing ad minimus … Planck constant detected … False/True? Please advise:

      • BuzzCoastin

        DE Dt ³ h / 4 p
        or
        Dx Dp ³ h / 4 p

        • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

          what without backtracking such minds were, not relativityfying infinity verb. Zeno bet two and all got confused, friends thought twas unraveled yet Athens not amused. collusion all, Draco said, and Hammurabi too, so instead of death there were void and voidance through. thus a sentence as a wound, a cut not so Dedekind, a wound in the force or space perhaps, purported light come into it inspite of pain, not time, knot timed. omegas to alef null. from every direction save no direction the light it did not sum, for Imperious possessed by Kabraxis, aye, i knew the day would come. “Why observe the all, he said, speaking to Buyard Cholik, why portend omniscience when one need only tend to its counter sign? Not the sum of pains, but that whole heal and that healing hole. Not the masses but the remnant of eternity.” combinatorial i said then, combinatorial indeed, for though i am not randomly drug tested, i know the mathematics as well as the steed.

          • BuzzCoastin

            FLETCHER:
            Crime of passion. No premeditation.
            They show up late.
            Most of our scrambles are flash events like this one.
            We rarely see anything with premeditation anymore.
            WITWER:
            People have gotten the message.

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            tachyons in the routers? DNS are precognative. Skynet in the means :0

          • BuzzCoastin

            H. C. Earwicker throughout his excellency long vicefreegal existence the mere suggestion of him as a lustsleuth nosing for trouble in a boobytrap rings particularly preposterous. Truth, beard on prophet, compels one to add that there is said to have been quondam (pfuit! pfuit!) some case of the kind implicating, it is interdum believed, a quidam (if he did not exist it would be necessary quoniam to invent him) abhout that time stambuling haround Dumbaling in leaky sneakers with his tarrk record who has remained topantically anonymos but (let us hue him Abdullah Gamellaxarksky) was,

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            a learned man’s journey despite organic breeding algorithms and the journey of others as if light to lathe wound. written as though in the anti-trance of self-awareness gestation/birthing/growth/experience. Joseph, Pigcop, Yafeth bin Nuhll. Noxa Morian. Noxa Emery. kmasslambda. Artasith Morris Nasdsnre. Aramonde Lethe, at your service. a dull hacker game lindeed. o.0 it would seem set before time :}}}}}}}}}

          • BuzzCoastin

            You daredevil donnelly,
            I love your piercing lots of lies and
            your flashy foreign mail
            so here’s my cowrie card,
            I dalgorithem, with all my exes, wise and sad.

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            ill got Dungeons & Dragons, Neverwinter, Rogue, with a rapier, and sneak attack. so many d6 die for piercing damage. shouting from a mouth like a conch: “AVAST YE SCURVY NIHILUS!”
            http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KgBT8kIRgBo/SjKaWJ7RxHI/AAAAAAAAFeQ/PyimRz7SRas/s400/Spaceballs+Schwartz+Fight.jpg

          • Calypso_1

            Buzz quothing pfuit! pfuit!
            I likes : )

          • Calypso_1

            Zeno’s final sentence, despite the pain, was indeed the true counter sign to nullify the confiscation of his mind.

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            i am more familiar with his tongue, myself, than with … what was his final sentence?

          • Calypso_1

            I was considering the expulsive utterance of the articulate organ itself to carry sufficient conditional entropy in light of the sentence of death.

            This multiplex game of mixed metaphors carries a great deal of dependence on transinformation with variable risks of rate-distortion.

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            agreed. i had considered that as a possible final. didn’t choose. that Doom movie tongues too, but that could be as carrots to pools, or fractals magnifications as galaxies to solar systems & solar systems to atoms & atoms to these transpondences with torted analysii. tori i find for more interest than tort. very critical to genera and that spheres and planes are the same genera. worlds of wonder. some say that 3D space or space has infinite genera or genera-irrelevance, but that’s more like proposing a God exists than building Tower Power~

  • mannyfurious

    This is my problem with the “we need to focus on mental illness” argument. For one, the “mentally ill” are far more likely to be victims of crime, not perpetrators. And even if we determine that someone is mentally ill in a violent way, then what? I mean, who even decides? Psychiatrists? That’s the biggest scam of the past 100 years. Even if we determine that someone is a sociopath, that’s no way to predict if that person will be violent. There’s not way to do this without crowding on someone’s civil liberties.

    Personally, I believe that most gun violence is economic in nature, and that something that nobody wants to talk about because no one wants to talk about how some people need to be giving back to the country that made them what they are in the first place.

    • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

      this got me thinking. the questionable origin of the infinity symbol, for one. secondly, that whether by evolution, nature, fact, or whatever, it may be that i need only simply point out two points to be connected at random: that of nature’s life cycle and that of undead’s p$i-k-l-e. too arbitrarily identical for no reason. yet if nature’s deathly life replenishment system is so efficient, why not mimic it in the living for quicker rewards? it is a lead goose in a notatineal binomial tree flowing through – not only the entire biomass – but through This Species. More and Faster. technology bar rafter. binary search hereafter. factor. *edit* apparently morale is subject to moral and vice-versa. look at patterns, not at a reflection of some piece of the sum of yourself. lead geese never land. because they drown, eh?

      • The Well Dressed Man

        garmonbozia.

        • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

          because after all, how could Pythagoras Walk the Planck while Einstein watched vicariously through Schrodingers eye? or i’m watching star trek ;{) Tantalus and the Tartarian Omicron?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlkYz6Il4JM&feature=share

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Do you like chiles in Ohio?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3FdhAAO6x0

          • Matt Staggs

            We recognize the congressman from Non-Sequitaria.

          • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

            sorry lol manny furious hit my choir button; i’m so used to standing on his side of things there put that my mind went elsewhere. talking about predictions often blows my imagination wide open anyway. also i’ve been pressed for being drastically different and open so i know the feeling of being ‘that psychological guy’ at least as personally as i do. i needed a way to express my thoughts that people personally and society at large ‘sheer’ their mind away from their body and that this happens en masse. like it were a cacophonic unsymphony is not entirely convincing to me. always searching for the algorithm, i. always anomalizing de facto orchestrators. it’s a successfully grown job life so far, but still not good enough.

        • Apathesis

          Tons of points for a Twin Peaks reference!

      • mannyfurious

        Uh, yeah. What he said….

    • Guest

      According to the bill even social workers get to decide. This is such a sticky issue. Having no judicial oversite. No legislated means of reinstatement. Surely it will make it the courts.
      Persons with severe mental illness have rights deprived involuntary for limited periods already. They do so with legal representation in a court. This jump from healthcare to executive branch is insane. I wonder how many officers are on seroquel for insomnia, or benzos. If anything we need to start medicating some of the legistors that come up with this shit.

      • mannyfurious

        Ha! Yeah, i agree, though. A lot of people think Szasz is a wingnut, but he was certainly right to be skeptical of how the rights of those with “mental illness” are subjugated.

  • http://artasith-m-nasdsnre.tumblr.com/ Simon Valentine

    how can guns have seizures? why is someone asking if someone is sitting on their meds? beds? my stool is a drug, better sequester it, because certainly i deserve the existentialdefactoofffalsehood pretenses i.e. psychosis flavored stigma of the You. how about people who confiscate are confiscated fiscally towards the rear of progressive anarythma? too smashingly simple? and sense when are medications not quantum? since anti-placebo? ha ha. happiness is justice putting itself out of a job to the sound of nothing out of the ordinary. so good luck with the disorderly disordering of disorder orderly orderers’ order, scarecrow pal-pal. “hey was it successful? come back to the business next time!” sickaz richard johnson shaker quake queeridom taboo bar. discusseding. so mediocre in moral or sin that they can’t stop losing to what they’ve been. post it notes in trash tins, sold as mentats on self-replicating resume combinatorics w3k shark fins. m-theory waiting for q-theory to catch up while the former quacks and the latter mates? *edit* confiscation is a ‘political’ word for ‘steal’ or ‘thieve’. conversion of intrusted property is illegal.

  • adfsdddd13

    How often do trained armed soldiers shoot up the place? Never. Its just the start of the crap that’s to come with the Gov taking everyone’s guns.. Good Luck.

  • kowalityjesus

    this thread of conversation is unusually high over my head, but this topic reminded me of a song “stranger to stability” by Dustin Zahn the title and content of which I just admire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEtBg6od_mA&list=PLNmRWFRTxqO3JGqwRe0I4ZsVxv8qa5xd8&index=9

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