Illinois Teacher In Trouble For Informing Students Of Fifth Amendment Rights Prior To Drug-Screening Survey

drug screening surveyThe things you learn in school aren’t supposed to be applicable in real life. Via the Chicago-area Daily Herald:

A Batavia High School teacher’s fans are rallying to support him as he faces possible discipline for advising students of their Constitutional rights before taking a school survey on their behavior.

John Dryden, a social studies teacher, told some of his students April 18 that they had a 5th Amendment right to not incriminate themselves by answering questions on the survey, which had each student’s name printed on it.

The survey is part of measuring how students meet the social-emotional learning standards set by the state. The school district bought the survey from a private company, Multi-Health Systems Inc.

The survey asked about drug, alcohol and tobacco use, and emotions, according to Brad Newkirk, chief academic officer. The results were to be reviewed by school officials, including social workers, counselors and psychologists.

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  • Simon Valentine

    “all of this” they write
    potential energy, the question
    state seeking to tip the balance
    duh
    what else would the worthless people operating as if the state do with their lives? be worthwhile state people? right. that’s all we need. great people that can’t be farmed by idiots but instead only by great people.

  • Juan

    Guy looks like The Dude:)

    • DeepCough

      “This [unconstitutional] aggression will not stand, man!”

    • Matt Staggs

      Dammit. Beat me to it.

      • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

        That’s okay. We’re all still comforted by the fact that : “He abides”.

        • Juan

          Indeed:)

    • http://2012diaries.blogspot.com/ tristan eldritch

      Yep, my comment was going to be: “They pissed on your Constitution, Dude.”

      • Juan

        “It really tied the room together.”

  • echar

    Has the world gone completely insane?

    • Kellic

      Yes.

      • reilg

        Actually, No. Just America.

        • HappyBirthdayRhumba

          Yep, you are right. Every country but America is totally rational.

  • DeepCough

    This man is a Communist. Why, you ask? Because he’s interfering with important market research!

    • HabitualUser

      LOL you must be joking right?

  • Loki

    We always tried to tweak the results of standardized tests like that. We had everyone in on plan that skewed the results to the shock & horror at everyone monitoring the results. We also mess with ethnicities values. I always answered something like Alaskan Islander. The stuff they put on those is no one else’s business.

    • emmettgrogan

      Did the tests have your name on them?

      • Loki

        Yes.

  • http://cr6zyb1tch.tumblr.com/ Gabrielle

    More dudes like him should run for office.

  • disqus_qTwSyibls6

    students in a school do not have constitutional rights. They are in control of the school and it’s rules. There is no freedom of speech, right to bear arms, no unlawful search and seizure and no self incrimination.

    • Edward Bradley

      You would make a fine tool of any fascist authority. Sad.

  • rubees_garden

    Please move to Great Falls, Montana.. I have grandsons living there and you’d be a great example and mentor for them!

  • Obama the Destroyer

    Knowledge and critical thinking in the schools… he’s a radical terrorist and enemy of the state. May also be racist.

  • Ted Faulhaber

    I hope they didn’t spill his beverage, too…..

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Nope, but I hear they might have peed on his rug…which is a shame because the rug really pulled the whole room together.

  • Noah_Nine

    what I want to know is, were these high school students naive enough to answer the questions honestly? the survey had their names on it….When I was in high school I knew better than to trust authority…

    • Daniellie

      problem is, our “kids” have been fed the “cool aid” for a long time now, that’s why you find so many of them out there that can’t think for themselves and just follow as they are told to do…..there’s no common sense in adults anymore, what makes you think “teenagers” have any of that common sense….just saying ;)

  • BuzzCoastin

    the only really surprising thing about this
    is that there exists a teacher who is really a teacher
    didn’t know they still had those around

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    I like this guy…and not just because he resembles a gene splice of the Zig Zag package ad and Jeff Bridges as The Dude in the Big Lebowski.

  • jkebeans

    The World has gone insane. We need teachers like this to inspire and inform. Hope the teachers and students come to his aid.

  • Reverend Xenakaboom

    As a social worker, I can tell you that no self-respecting practitioner would stand for this intrusion into a child’s personal sphere. If the powers that be REALLY want to monitor a child’s emotional health, they should take those scantrons and pencils, or whatever they use to document the No Child Left Behind clap trap, shove them up the various superintendents and marketing research drones collective a$$e$ and TALK TO THE CHILDREN. They need to do their jobs, not serve as focus groups. Bravo, Mr. Dryden!

  • MamaZ

    There should definitely have been some informed consent going on here. Minors should not be asked to implicate themselves in illegal activities without full understanding of what they might be getting themselves into…No on should! And where was the parental consent? Parents should be outraged. I hope this guy(he DOES look like “The Dude”) is vindicated! Shame on whomever came up with the idea for non-anonymous surveys demanding such delicate information!

  • Scott_D

    What a terribly idiotic move to not make the test anonymous. Defeats the entire purpose of the study.

    • emmettgrogan

      And what do you suppose the actual purpose of the “SURVEY” was? Have you googled Multi-health Sytems, Inc?

  • Barbie

    some people are saying that the only students who wouldn’t complete the survey with their names on it were the ones with something to hide. i beg to differ. in high school and was a non-smoking, non-drinking, drug-free virgin who would absolutely have refused to complete that form.

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