Obama’s Science Czar John P. Holdren Confronted on Population Control

During a Q&A segment at a science & technology speech given by President Obama’s Science Czar, John P. Holdren, Luke Rudkowski asked him about the statements made in his 1977 book, Ecoscience. In this book, Holdren outlined ways to handle “overpopulation” which included forced abortions and sterilization. Despite co-authoring this book and telling Congress that his beliefs in depopulation has changed, Holdren claimed that he never held those beliefs in the first place

Via WeAreChange

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  • john doe

    forced abortions and sterilizations is a good idea. the global ecosystem is collapsing while the swill at the bottom of the gene pool continues to propagate… meanwhile clueless ecologically illiterate knobs continue to question the very concept of ‘overpopulation’

    • Ittabena

      Sieg Hiel! Meh!

    • Number Two

      You ever thought that, you know, with forced abortions & sterilizations, that they might be imposing on the rights of the individual? & The Reasoning that its for the “Common Good” or “The Planet” seems about, well about as totalitarian & as abstract as saying its for God or The State?

      I also think the comment “swill at the bottom of genetic pool continuing to propagate” shows a lot of yr true colors.

      • Matt Staggs

        People always assume that it will be the other guy who is sterilized or culled in these situations.

      • john doe

        if you look at past eugenics programs, those who were sterilized tended to be impulsive criminals, the mentally ill, low IQ wards of the state and welfare cases, etc. Or, in more politically incorrect terms, “the swill at the bottom of the gene pool”. I’m sorry if it sounds hardhearted and inhuman but the global ecosystem cannot support our policy of saving the weak at all costs. The planet is in crisis and our only hope for saving the global ecosystem and some remnant of civilization is to make sure the coming generation is as healthy and strong as it can be. ‘Lean and mean’ not obese and mild mannered. We need a way of life that ensures that ONLY the fittest in mind and body will survive, there is no room for anyone else. Quality over Quantity.

        • moremisinformation

          If I had a nickel for all the vague platitudes in you philosophy, I’d have a bunch of coins that continue to be devalued…”The planet is in crisis”, “saving the global ecosystem and some remnant of civilization” – what a joke. It might be useful to define your terms before you go trying to solve your perceived problems by killing people off.

          There. I can only be trolled once.

          Btw, Malthus was a jackass.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3WlRxfWC0

    • alizardx

      The cause for global ecosystem and economic system collapse is bad decision-making by the 0.01% transnational elite based on increasing their short-term profit at the expense of all other considerations, including the safety of their own descendants. The short-term profit in this case being based on their holdings of fossil-fuel based assets.

      Those eco-illiterates are disinformed by media controlled by the “wise, benevolent leaders” you want to preserve.

      Versions of “sell the foundations from under society to make lots of quick money” have played out through human history, it’s the usual reason why civilizations collapse.

      • john doe

        no, our predicament is not a conspiracy of the 0.01%, even though they are disproportionately culpable. Projecting the blame onto a tiny coterie of evildoers, when really the whole teeming mass of industrial humanity is to blame, is just lazy moralistic sophistry. I have no idea why you responded to an invented quote about “wise, benevolent leaders”. you’re underestimating my cynicism to make such a silly remark

        • alizardx

          “really the whole teeming mass of industrial humanity is to blame, ”

          That mass does not have meaningful input into the decisions like whether or not fossil fuel or renewables keeps the lights on or provides transportation energy. Or whether building codes force use of LEEDs best energy efficiency practices.

          Consumers make choices from the menu corporations provide. The exceptions are the people who have the money and/or the skills to buy or make off-menu choices. A cool, far better solution that makes more efficient use of resources does little good in the global scale of things unless the masses know of it and can afford it.

          Can list lots of areas that “teeming mass” you desperately want to set yourself apart from don’t make decisions about, with respect to choices about how civilization functions meaning the elites or their functionaries do.

          But I’ll simply summarize by saying “You are not even wrong.”

          Give me an example of a fallen empire which was NOT destroyed by its own elite. Decisions that affect a whole society are made by definition by elites. You can deny their role, or you can live in reality.

    • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness

      Funny, I thought the scum rose to the top.

    • moremisinformation

      That’s an airtight case you’ve presented. I’m convinced.

  • BuzzCoastin

    most politicians never worry about lying
    just ask Obummer
    his many appointments are not much worse than he

  • eric82

    I assume Luke may not have received university-level education or, perhaps, received it at a land grant college, like Fresno State. He really needs to learn the difference between blue sky thinking and position advocacy. It would save himself the embarrassment of videos like this one, or his Cass Sunstein trainwreck.

    • BuzzCoastin

      what an elitist pov
      yeah, too bad he didn’t go to Yale or Harvard
      they’d kick the blue sky right out of him

      Luke’s petulant persistent pursuit of the elites
      is merely a subdued response to their “position advocacy” of tyranny

      • Matt Staggs

        My blue sky doesn’t include forced sterilization.

        • BuzzCoastin

          the last time I checked Luke wasn’t advocating forced sterilization
          which I think fits into the “position advocacy” thingy
          as opposed to blue-sky thinking, by which I assume
          was eric82′s criticism of Luke’s thinking