Bill Maher Democrat Lackey

On this episode of Breaking the Set, Abby Martin calls out Bill Maher, host of HBO’s ‘Real Time’, for his evolution from being a controversial commentator to being an arrogant lackey for the democratic party, citing his rampant Islamophobia, support for drones, and defense of the NSA’s wiretapping program.

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  • sheepleroom

    did she actually call him Bil Mah Her? surely you jest… has she ever watched his show? Really guys…

  • chinagreenelvis

    I stopped at “Bill Mah-hurr.”

  • http://generaldepravity.blogspot.com/ dragline

    Abby has lost her shit. She’s far too eager to be eager. It’s embarrassing and forced. If she’s so well-referenced with his opinions, she would’ve got his name right. It’s pretty apparent she’s just reading off someone else’s impassioned speech.

    • chinagreenelvis

      She actually reminds me of Ann Coulter. It’s as if she has a complete lack of real personality. I bet she’s shit in the sack.

      • http://generaldepravity.blogspot.com/ dragline

        I don’t know. It seems she’s pretty good at roleplaying.

        • Rhoid Rager

          lol.

      • Rhoid Rager

        Still wouldn’t stop me….

      • Rhoid Rager

        Still wouldn’t stop me….

      • happypedro

        Ann Coulter doesn´t deal in real info, but in warped ideologies based on very little that is close to reality or a good vision of the world. Abby is real, and does her best to put truth to power.

        • Rhoid Rager

          How bout the sack part? Are you privy to that like your privy to the irony?

          • happypedro

            “sack part”? Just seems very obvious to me that if you have the level of awareness and knowledge that Abby does, and you name your show Breaking The Set, that it´s quite obvious that there is irony there of the show being on TV. The thing you seem to be playing with is a kind of literalism. Does she literally have to be taking a sledgehammer to a TV in order to be breaking the set? Or is it acceptable enough to you that she is breaking the set in the sense of moving beyond a lot of the typical info that is put out there, and questioning everything with a lot of critical thinking?

        • chinagreenelvis

          What is real? What is truth?

  • Dane Collins

    Really? She nails it, but people are put off by her pronunciation of his name?

    • chinagreenelvis

      I really have no tolerance for Abby Martin. At least Bill Maher is entertaining to watch. Plus, I don’t feel like I have to agree with his opinions in order to be entertained.

      That being said, she can only be stating the obvious here – that people who subscribe to ideologies have more tolerance for wrongs committed by the leaders they support and have zero tolerance for those wrongs then they happen under the watch of “the other guy.”

  • BuzzCoastin

    fortunately I didn’t have to be warned about Bill
    because:
    I don’t watch TV
    I already knew ALL people on TV are paid shills
    and I know that effects of TV as a technology
    are far greater than the content of some paid shills

  • echar

    The democratic equivalence of Rush Limbaugh.

    • happypedro

      equivalent? Limbaugh traffics in misinformation, propangda, false information, and profits off of hate. Abby doesn´t do those things, but gives info that is accurate, and seeks good things in the world based on good principles. is she perfect? no. but she is no Limbaugh.

      • echar

        My label was directed at Maher, not Martin. Pardon, I could have made that clearer. I like Abby Martin, even though I do not take her word for gospel. She offers another much needed perspective.

        • happypedro

          Ah, I see. Well, I think Maher is far more fact-based than Limbaugh, and a heck of a lot more funny. But I can see some relation there.

  • Oscar Madison

    Who gives a fuck how she pronounces his fucking name you fucking idiots. She nailed it.

    • chinagreenelvis

      No, her writers did.

  • happypedro

    Abby is right on target. She is one of the very few who hold up truth to power. Steve Almond also got it right on target: http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_jokes_on_you

    • Juan

      Thanks for the link; brilliant piece.
      You know, I find all these assclowns annoying and don’t watch them. They are just as much a part of the system as any corporate lobbyist. They are there as relief valves for all the angst we deal with in this bullshit circus we call postmodern life. They help keep the machine rolling along by molyfing the masses.

      • happypedro

        Agreed

  • The Well Dressed Man

    You guys are aware that Breaking the Set is a product of the Kremlin’s media group RT, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) It’s good to have alternative media, but important to know who is bankrolling the message.

    Edit: I’m just saying that these editorials are at the weirder end of state-sponsored propaganda. Very appropriate disinfo.

    • Microhero

      Them old reddies are still kickin’ and nobody is paying attention anymore…
      It’s back to the bunker for us Lucille..

    • echar

      Oh seriously? I thought RT stood for Russia Texas. I feel dirty now.

      • Matt Staggs

        Reptile Taxidermy.

        • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

          Royal Tenenbaums.

          • Rhoid Rager

            Rothschild Tremens.

      • The Well Dressed Man

        Rollo Tomassi

        • echar

          In the movie L.A. Confidential, Det. Lt. Edmund Exley narrated to Sgt. Jack Vincennes that Rollo Tomassi was the name he gave to the unnamed purse snatcher who shot his father and got away clean. Exley said that he (Rollo Tomasi) was the reason he became a cop – to catch those who think they can get away with it.

          lol

      • The Well Dressed Man

        Rollo Tomassi

    • InfvoCuernos

      Its like nobody pays attention to the lessons Russia has to teach people over and over-Hitler learned it, so did Napoleon; when you think you have Russia on the ropes, that’s really just them winding up for the haymaker that’s going to knock you out for goodski.

    • Rhoid Rager

      I was wondering if someone would mention that. Also, isn’t it funny that she is simultaneously ‘breaking the set’ while appearing on it? I guess the irony was lost on her.

      • chinagreenelvis

        That’s the problem with trying to use the media against itself. It simply can’t be done.

        • happypedro

          Abby is very aware of the irony, doesn´t mean one can´t do things if irony exists. And the media can indeed be used against itself.

          • Rhoid Rager

            But who speaks for the spokesperson?

      • echar

        She is on a set!I feel that by acknowledging the set her show brings the question to the forefront of the mind, instead of hiding behind an illusion.

        • Rhoid Rager

          Well what’s the point of breaking a TV set with a sledge as your opener? Everything that runs on TV isn’t evil (my kids really enjoy Attenborough docs). But, ultimately, anything that comes on the idiot box is an illusion, because it all perpetuates the illusion of passivity. None of us are truly passive creatures. We strive to be active, but the box trains us to be anything but such. That’s no accident. Passive observers of life are obedient followers of rules. Continuing the tradition of passing information to people who sit in front of a glowing box mesmerized by what they think as life passing them by is not radical or avant garde no matter how chic the announcer. And the fucking consistently short miniskirt doesn’t help either, for fuck’s sake!

          • echar

            I have to agree, and yes miniskirts with nice legs.

    • happypedro

      True, that is how it is funded. The info in general seems quite accurate, however. The omission and the propaganda comes in through what Russia omits about itself. Critique the USA with real raw info, yet don´t do the same toward yourself, seems to be the technique. Whatever the case, we should always — with every article, book, and show — look at a wide variety of sources, compare, think critically, and try to shape what seems to be true. But from everything I have done in this direction, so far what Abby is reporting is right on target. Take a look at this info, as well: http://creativeleisuretime.blogspot.mx/search/label/DIRTY%20TRUTHS

  • smooth_operator

    Life’s good at the top sucking powerful dicks. Maher doesn’t believe in everything he professes, but no doubt he’s frightened at the thought of losing his mainstream credibility, so he goes on sucking powerful dicks and defending the empire.

  • Alex Bone

    Bill is dead right about Islam.

    • happypedro

      Bill´s viewpoint applies to fundamentalism, wherever it arises — in Islam, in Christianity, in any ideology that goes to the extreme, and rigidly dangerous. The argument can be made to a small degree, perhaps, that Islam has more fundamentalists… but people tend to become zealots in extreme conditions. The power elite of the USA has been manipulating — bombing, sanctions, stealing resources, etc — the region of the Middle East for years, and so is greatly responsible for the extremism that arises. And plenty of whacko religious people in the USA — read “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America” by Chris Hedges, or just type in “Joel´s Army” into YouTube. The dangerous of fundamentalism abounds everywhere.

      • Alex Bone

        sir you are insane if you equate christian fundamentalism with Islamist fundamentalism, honor killings, genital mutilation, beheading, forcing women to wear a giant garbage bag when they leave the house, child marriage and child sex, oh and lets not forget the killing of Christians and gays and those that insult Muhammad just because they exist.

        • happypedro

          Equate in a 100% equally exact way? No. Equate in a general way? Yes.

          Crusades, inquisitions, lynchings, huge infusion of Christians in the U.S. industrial military complex which then goes around the world and bombs, tortures, etc — all in the name of God.

          9/11 was terrorism, but so is bombing of other countries around the world the way the U.S. military has done. Christian extremism has a long history of doing the same horrific things that Islamic extremists do. It´s mostly a question of when and how.

          One could possibly accept the idea that Christians have improved, become less violent than their Crusading and Inquisition-ing and witch-burning days, but I would argue that it has largely morphed into the violence of the industrial military complex, and in the supporting of and allowing of the new Gilded Age we are in — which causes the death and suffering of millions of poor people so that the elite may live well, while falsely selling the average citizen on the American Dream, which as George Carlin says, “They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it” — that makes the face of such horrors less directly visible. But the horrors are there.

          As Michael Parenti puts it:

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          Of twenty industrial countries, the United States has the highest poverty rate, and highest rate of youth deaths due to accidents, homicide, and other violence. Americans work longer hours per year and get less vacation time than workers in any other industrialized country. Given the improvement in disease prevention and lifestyle, including more physical exercise and less smoking, U.S. life expectancy is up to an all-time high of 77.6 years in 2005. But the United States still rates 50th in life expectancy and shows increasingly high rates of hypertension and obesity. One of every five U.S. adults is functionally illiterate. Estimates of homelessness vary from 1 to 3 million, almost a third of whom are families with children.

          Children in poverty are more likely to be born at a low birth weight, die in infancy or early childhood, and be plagued with serious ailments, including diseases associated with malnutrition. They are more likely to suffer from untreated illnesses, be exposed to environmental toxins and neighborhood violence, and suffer delays in learning development. Young and elderly poor suffer a “silent epidemic of oral disease,” from tooth decay to mouth cancer, due largely to poor overall health and inability to pay for dental care or dental insurance. As one columnist noted, “If the president on his visit to China had witnessed Chinese peasants eating from garbage cans, he almost certainly would have cited it as proof that communism doesn’t work. What does it prove when it happens in the capitalist success called America?”

          It is difficult for those who have never known serious economic want to imagine the misery it can cause. People living under the crushing burden of poverty – without enough money for rent, food, and other necessities, in unsafe crime-ridden neighborhoods and deteriorated housing – suffer an inordinate amount of unattended pathologies, including depression, high blood pressure, and heart disease. Drops in income and even most jumps in unemployment rates bring discernible increases in illness, emotional distress, substance addictions, suicide, and crime. Over 30 percent of Americans have experienced some form of mental problem such as serious depression. Tens of millions are addicted to alcohol, tobacco, or illegal drugs. Millions more are addicted to medical drugs such as amphetamines and barbiturates. The pushers are the doctors; the suppliers are the dug industry; the profits are stupendous.

          In sum, the story of the United States’ great “affluence” has a grimmer side. The free market is very good for winners, offering all the rewards that money can buy, but it is exceedingly hard on millions of others. Poverty creates problems in nutrition, health, housing, and neighborhood safety. These problems in turn lead to cognitive deficiencies, poor school performance, and limited employment opportunities. Contrary to the prevailing social mythology, the U.S. capitalist system squanders our natural resources, exploits and underpays our labor, and creates privation and desperate social needs, serving the few at great cost to the many, leaving us with a society that is less democratic and increasingly riven by wealth and want.
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          So there is plenty of violence in our society, built into the system, that is committed within and outside our country, in the name of prosperity, goodness, democracy, freedom, etc, when in reality it is not so sweet as the masks project — it is prosperity, democracy, freedome, etc, for the elite.

          Where are the millions of Christians throwing off their possessions and caring for the poor as Christ preached?

          Mostly I see rampant consumerism justified self-righteously far more hate — against gays, against Muslims, against all kinds of groups — instead of love thy enemy and turn the other cheek. Most Christians seem to know nothing about the Social Teachings of the Catholic church, argue about whether to say “Happy Holidays” or “Merry Christmas” instead of working in a homeless shelter or food bank.

          Killing someone with chemicals — as are in so much of our food in the USA — that gives people cancer, that´s one way of killing someone. Killing someone by beheading is another. Terrorism by taking down three buildings on 9/11 is killing. The terrorism of sanctions and bombings that killed at least 500,000 people in Iraq due to U.S. policies is also killing. Killing people because they insult Muhammed is one horror, and killing people because they don´t do what the USA wants, or because they are not Christians, is another horror. And you may not be a Christian who holds such extreme violent views, but they do exist, and, as the book American Fascists by Chris Hedges shows, in quite great and growing numbers.

          So basically what you seem to be arguing is that: Our particular horrors, the ones committed by our country or by us Christians, are nicer and more just than those committed by others. Yes?

          Or, are you arguing that we just don´t do as MUCH as others?

          If so, I would disagree.

          How did the USA get to be one of the richest countries in the world? Just because the rest of the world said, “Hey, you know, you are so great and so cool, just take everything, you can have it.”??? Of course not. It came about through pathological manipulation and force.

          In my view, then, it is insane to not be honest about the realities of the world, and to be honest with ourselves. Judge not, before you judge yourself. It is super easy to adopt the position that “I am good” and “We are good” and “They are bad.” We don´t like to admit our own faults. Much easier to project them on others. And super easy to not see the connections between what we do and the impact on others. That wealth creates poverty:

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          “Wealth and poverty are not just juxtaposed, they are in a close dynamic relationship. Wealth creates poverty and relies on it for its own continued existence. Without slaves and serfs, how would the master and lord live in the style to which they are accustomed? Without the working poor, how would the leisurely rich make do? Were there no underprivileged, who wold be privileged?”

          http://creativeleisuretime.blogspot.mx/search/label/DEMOCRACY%20FOR%20THE%20FEW
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          Why are there suicide bombers? Because they have a lot of other options? Makes very little to no sense to argue that. People do such extreme things because they largely have no other options — they are severely desperate. If you take a map of the world that shows where there have been violent conflict in the world, and then compare that to map where there has been deep environmental degradation, they match up almost perfectly. We have been manipulating, sanctioning, bombing, pilfering, etc, the Middle East for a long long long time now.

          So to say we have no connection or responsibility for the extremism that comes out of that region of the world is like punching someone in the stomach as hard as you can 100 times in a row and then to immediately say, “What´s wrong with you, breathe normally!” or “What´s wrong with you, eat your food!”

          Long story short: Yes, what extremists are doing everywhere is bad, horrible, wrong, immoral, horrendous. But let´s not pretend that the good part of human nature is only concentrated in one part of the world, or in one people or one religion or any one group, and the bad part is only concentrated in another part or people or group in the world. That´s like arguing that God only loves white male Republicans.

          There are good people and bad people all over the world. There are good things and bad things in every religion.

          And it is perfectly sane to recognize this.

          Peace

  • http://singedrac.livejournal.com Singe

    I agree with what she’s saying here about Maher, but I think it’s a bit unfair to say that he’s a comedic lackey like “Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert”. Stewart and Colbert have actually been pretty critical of Obama’s administration in these past couple years.

    • happypedro

      I used to think that, as well. But the criticism is carried out with humor, which tends to deflate its significance — people laugh it off. And there are plenty of things they don´t critique, and plenty of things they actually support, like the military industrial complex. It´s a fine line, but more and more I tend to agree with Steve Almond, that the joke is on us: http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_jokes_on_you

      • http://singedrac.livejournal.com Singe

        Do you watch Stewart and Colbert on a regular basis? They criticize the military-industrial complex all the time.

        • happypedro

          I do watch them regularly, yes. And you are correct, they do criticize the military-industrial complex, and Obama, pretty regularly. But they also have had many shows devoted to celebrating the military. And I remember Stewart praising the shooting in the head of the Somali pirates — and the Somali “pirates” were actually fishermen who were getting their fish stolen by the USA and Europe, while also having toxic waste dumped off their shores, which caused them to be so desperate as to turn pirates. And they praised the killing of Bin Laden without any trial. So there are various dimensions, elements. Which I think this article does a good job of pulling out aspects of: http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_jokes_on_you

        • happypedro
  • Zekov

    Bill Maher: “We don’t threaten each other, we sue each other. That’s a sign of civilized people.”

    No, that’s the sign of RICH people. Civilized people work out their problems amicably without going to war *or* court over it.

  • happypedro

    Propaganda is a very slight and tricky thing, especially these days. This article about Malcolm Gladwell shows in great detail and brilliant analysis much of how it works: http://exiledonline.com/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-a-look-into-the-life-work-of-america%E2%80%99s-most-successful-propagandist/

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