Clark: Making Duchamp’s Fountain Look Like A Urinal

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  • BuzzCoastin

    a few things:
    first, who’s gonna watch an hour 44 of this?
    second, Duchamp’s urinal signified the end of formal art
    everything after that is kitsch for Biz Moguls to invest in
    real art is living a life as a work of art
    and it can’t be bought, sold or packaged

    • Matt Staggs

      I watched the entire thing this morning, and it’s really quite clever. It plays with viewer expectations and over the course of said hour 44 utterly subverts – and ultimately destroys – them. The film melts down. Well worth your time. Not sure I agree with the idea that art post-Dada was kitsch, although I have to agree that “Buzz Coastin the globe-trotting expat” has been an enjoyable enough presentation.

      • BuzzCoastin

        Duchamp was the first of non-artist artists.

        He is quoted as saying, the readymades were designed to “reduce the number of people looking.”
        And he was never fond on showing them publicly and once queried: “Can one make works which are not works of ‘art’?”

        With the exception of one single New York exhibition in 1916, the readymades were unknown outside his small circle of friends and family until the 1940s.

        Obscurity is the best imitation of Duchamp
        and anyway, I prefer DuBuffet

        • Matt Staggs

          I went through a big Dada phase as a painting major. I still remember an art teacher who insisted in interpreting a meaning in “Why Not Sneeze, Rose Selavy?”. In her defense, ancient art was more her thing, and I learned more about Egyptian history from her than I ever did from any world history class. My tastes have widened over the years, but as a college kid I was very much into Dada, Breton and his pals, and later, the Situationists Iinternational, I still love the ideology of the later and their subversion of mass produced media.

          • BuzzCoastin

            for DaDa painting there’s no one better than DuBuffet
            I caught an exhibit in DC about 20 years ago
            blew me away
            it is better seen in-person than as a pic
            same goes for Vinny (pre-dada)
            that little collection of his at the Musee d’Orsay
            is worth the ticket to Paris

            to me it’s all become mass produced kitsch
            that was Warhol’s great statement
            that no one seems to have comprehended
            he put the period
            at the end of the sentence of painted art.

          • Matt Staggs

            Art is in a constant state of flux. I can’t agree that it’s all mass produced kitsch, but I’d better back out now, before I’m appropriated into the ongoing “BuzzCoastin” performance art piece. :)

          • BuzzCoastin

            looks like I got three down votes
            ut-oh
            Big Glass is watching

            I feel like
            The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even

    • Jamie Lee

      Yes, it’s a statement about the art world, (the magic dong of the gallery, turning urinal to art.)

      Happy you enjoyed it Matt. Many have, as many I’m sure as have completely missed the point (spoiler: it’s not actually about dicks.) Daniel W was looking to make a web series on a low budget that made some points without taking ourselves too seriously. (One of the running jokes of course being, “how seriously can they pretend to take themselves.”) I’m not sure a movie stands up as well to someone not willing to meet it halfway- but it certainly isn’t going to if someone refuses to actually watch it! ;)

      • BuzzCoastin

        meeting someone half way in this media overload environment
        and committing an hour and a half to it
        so that I can relive a Duchamp moment
        doesn’t seem within my media budget

        on the other hand
        if this was a video about landscape hydrology
        or the nuances of small dam construction
        which I presently spend several hours a day adsorbed in
        I’d be on it like a cop on a Black kid

        • Matt Staggs

          Meet me halfway, Buzz, across the sky. http://youtu.be/qyLmECoNsdM

          • BuzzCoastin

            coupla things:
            1
            liked the pics of the swales
            looks like someone knew something about Yomen’s Keyline theory
            2
            once I was listening to a Kenny Loggins song
            and one of my kids asked me if I was into gay music

          • Matt Staggs

            Did you tell them no, but you do like getting footloose in the danger zone?

          • BuzzCoastin

            I just let’em know
            I’m Alright

        • Guest

          Then go do something else within your media budget. Like comment on things, because I’m sure the entire world is hinged on every word you type.

        • jingo

          You’re in luck, this movie IS about landscape hydrologyAND the nuances of small dam construction AND about people just like you who have the media budget to spam their opinion about things they haven’t even watched.

          • BuzzCoastin

            I checked yer profile
            only 2 comments and both for me
            I would have to say I’m more Dada
            if I can get you to do that

            and for my next trick…

          • jingo

            …for your next trick, you might actually create some content instead of taking videos others have created, applying a cheap and easy FCP filter on it and presenting it as edgy or artistic? Yeah no wonder you won’t watch this movie, I don’t blame you. It would probably set you down a path of nightmarish self reflection and ultimately feelings of depression and worthlessness.

          • BuzzCoastin

            There was a Buzz who had a troll,
            And Jingo was his name-o.
            J-I-N-G-O!
            J-I-N-G-O!
            J-I-N-G-O!
            And Jingo was his name-o!

          • jingo

            oh wow, you burned me. You called me a troll on an article that you obsessively comment on of which you know not one thing about for no other reason except to be masturbatory.

          • BuzzCoastin

            J-I-N-G-O
            and Jingo was his name-o

      • Matt Staggs

        The first half hour had me convinced it was going to be some kind of low-budget “Waiting for Guffman” full of conventional “unconventional” humor. I’m glad I stuck around until the point when things started melting down.

    • jingo

      first, who’s gonna watch an hour 44 of this?
      - a lot of people have, but if you can’t pay attention for that long then you could still enjoy bits and pieces, though you’d probably miss the significance.

      second, Duchamp’s urinal signified the end of formal art
      everything after that is kitsch for Biz Moguls to invest in
      - Thanks, I’ll remember that the next time I take art history 101. This movie however isn’t about Duchamp or any other artist except for the fictional main character.

      Real art is living a life as a work of art
      - wow. I’m like, blown away by how profound that was. Real music is living a life as a sound of music. Real pasta is living a life as a plate of pasta, that works for everything, brilliant.

      and it can’t be bought, sold or packaged
      - Hey! This movie is free! And I even think that comment was said to some effect within the story!

      • BuzzCoastin

        maybe you haven’t noticed
        but Duchamp never promoted his art or himself
        his readmades were were only shown once before he died
        but thanks
        you really helped convince me this is a piece of shit
        without me having to watch it

        • jingo

          I don’t see how Duchamp not promoting himself is relevant, because the movie isn’t about Duchamp. But commenting so much based on some base assumptions you’ve made on something you refuse to even understand gives evidence that you’re the “piece of shit” here. But no worries, the movie would probably offend you anyway since it takes shots at psuedo-intellectual hipsters. So not watching it is possibly your best choice. :)

  • M. G.

    In some ways, this is probably the most important movie in human history.

  • echar

    Absurd