First National Marijuana Brand Coming to U.S. From Ex-Microsoft Executive

Vitaterra VITACANNAB CULTIVO CANNABIS cultivationHow long before weed is corporatized and corrupted with chemical additives? From Reuters:

A former Microsoft executive plans to create the first U.S. national marijuana brand, with cannabis he hopes to eventually import legally from Mexico, and said he was kicking off his business by acquiring medical pot dispensaries in three U.S. states.

Jamen Shively, a former Microsoft corporate strategy manager, said he envisions his Seattle-based enterprise becoming the leader in both recreational and medical cannabis – much like Starbucks is the dominant name in coffee, he said.

Shively, 45, whose six years at Microsoft ended in 2009, said he was soliciting investors for $10 million in start-up money.

The use, sale and possession of marijuana remains illegal in the United States under federal law. Two U.S. states have, however, legalized recreational marijuana use and are among 18 states that allow it for medical use.

“It’s a giant market in search of a brand,” Shively said of the marijuana industry. “We would be happy if we get 40 percent of it worldwide.”…

[continues at Reuters]


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  1. Anarchy Pony | Jun 2, 2013 at 9:44 pm |

    Jesus… Is there anything these pathetic parasites won’t latch themselves onto and co-opt? Oh wait, I already know the answer; no.

    It won’t be a viable business model until they legalize possession and smoking, but outlaw home/private growing.

  2. DrDavidKelly | Jun 2, 2013 at 10:30 pm |

    If they could get rid of the idea that you need it for a medical reason that would boost sales. The ads would say, “just drop out and light a dube but make sure it’s a Vitaterra spliff.” Celebs will be endorsed to push certain brands and yes homegrown will be somehow be marginalized. There could be boutique brands and Pot Light for when you’ve got to drive … I see a bright future for this company!

    • I’m thinking he should get Snoop Dog as a poster child.

      • DrDavidKelly | Jun 2, 2013 at 11:31 pm |

        Whores for corporate pot would be thick and plentiful … Flash it in your face enough, make it cheap and everywhere. It sure can be addictive as hell too! And you’ll be telling the grankids about when we used to have to hide it under the dash in the car.

  3. Eric Holder is going to piss all over this guy’s parade

    • BuzzCoastin | Jun 2, 2013 at 11:16 pm |

      don’t underestimate the power of money on a politician
      Holder is a servant to the money boys
      if this dude is part of the CIA drug cartel
      he could have a chance
      but Holder will only do what he’s told

      • I’m just thinking he’s going to have to out bribe pharma, prisons, energy, alcohol and who ever else that has an interest in keeping it a federal crime.

        • BuzzCoastin | Jun 2, 2013 at 11:26 pm |

          they’re are all players vying for the bucks
          if Uncle Homey can make as much or more $$$ with pot legal
          pot will become legal
          MS Excel will be the deciding arbiter

    • DeepCough | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:14 am |

      And then Eric Holder zips up his pants once he gets his enormous bribe–duh, I mean, “contribution.”

  4. BuzzCoastin | Jun 2, 2013 at 11:15 pm |

    > “It’s a giant market in search of a brand,” Shively said of the marijuana industry.
    “We would be happy if we get 40 percent of it worldwide.”…

    just another good reason to keep pot illegal & underground
    not that I think Uncle Pigland would ever allow a free people
    to cut in on his drug biz
    and if they do commercialize it
    you can be sure you ain’t gonna be able to grow it
    fer sher

    hey history buffs:
    go back and check the whiskey rebellion
    Uncle Homeland has been controlling & taxing getting high in aMerka
    since Geo Washington fired on Americans protesting his whiskey tax
    oops, they forget to mention that in Am. History 101

    • Tomatoes are grown and sold by big corporations and they can be grown from home.

      • BuzzCoastin | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:02 am |

        yeah, as long as it’s not illegal to grow tomatoes at home
        which it’s not legal to do in some US towns
        so if it’s true for tomatoes
        imagine what it will be for pot

        • that is true, some towns have bullshit zoning. You can grow buds at home in AK, only so many plants though. I am ok with that.

      • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:00 am |

        and they cost $2-5/ lb.

        • That is true, it is more costly to buy then to grow.

          • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm |

            I meant to say that tomatoes are really cheap and there isn’t a lot of profit in the business. The only way big companies make it worth while and profitable is by growing millions of pounds with underpaid and exploited farm labor. I am a farmer- the fact that “conventional” food is too cheap( to pay a fair wage and cover all of its true costs) is apparent to anyone familiar with the business.

      • Jin The Ninja | Jun 3, 2013 at 10:52 am |

        grown in the desert using untold gallons of water, pesticide and near to slave labour.

        that’s the analogue you’d have for marijuana?

    • The Well Dressed Man | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:38 am |

      Begun, the green rush has.

  5. kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:19 am |

    the problem with legalising marijuana is the capacity of all-sorts-of-fucked-up that you can get while using the drug. Its not only too strong but also its psychological side-effects are not discreet. I doubt it even CAN be treated in the same capacity as alcohol or tobacco, though putting people in jail for it is expensive and asinine.

    • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:22 am |

      Booo! Just because being forced to think outside the box makes you anxious and paranoid doesn’t mean it has that effect on others. Some people are open to looking at things from a different angle- even if it shows you some week points and insecurities. Ahh, nevermind…..You just keep a tight grip on that book and you’ll be okay.

    • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:26 am |

      He said “too strong”. This guy cracks me up….

      • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:50 am |

        people that haven’t spent two decades listening to their hi-fi and not reproducing can trip balls alarmingly easily on THC. For a LOT of people, weed is a powerful hallucinogen and drug. You get drunk enough, you will just barf.

        • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:57 am |

          xenophobia refers to fear of people from another place geographically, not politically or religiously. Like I said, if it’s stronger you smoke less. For example, most folks don’t drink pints of vodka as opposed to beer, they have shots. I don’t mean to pick on you personally, but this is a BS argument used all the time by anti-pot folks and that happens to be you right now.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:16 am |

            conventional wisdom implies that xenophobia encompasses all types of fear or hatred toward people of other backgrounds. I think it is harder for people to find self-restraint when partaking of marijuana expressly because it has no physical cap for getting high, unlike drinking.

            I am not old, I am just making fun of hippies who lost touch and volunteered for a darwin award. Not saying I am too far ahead of them ideologically, though.

          • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:44 am |

            Please look up xenophobia. Just to be clear, I have neither fear nor hatred towards you. I do believe that most christians have no sense of critical thinking or open mindedness/liberality. Loosing self restraint is the essence of what makes all intoxicants useful. This is not necessarily a bad thing, right? For me, it’s highest use is as a tool to see everything from another angle/perspective. But, also, I think that you have contradicted yourself here by claiming that there is “no physical cap for getting high”. If you’re freaking out, you might have had too much.
            Personally, I think that cannabis forces/encourages self restraint by exposing weak-points,insecurities, and bad decisions generally. Ironically, this is what I believe causes anxiety and paranoia.
            “Hippies” are the perennial easy target of insult, but I have yet to understand what is wrong with peace and love. What would jesus say about those ideals?

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:38 am |

            I think the zeitgeist has pushed “xenophobia” into a more universal utilization, and I don’t knead a dictionary two tel me hau too yooz my wirds.

            “freaking out” is not a physical barrier, its a psychological barrier. I don’t want to be as dramatic and cranky about marijuana as partisanship would dictate, because the analogies between alcohol and marijuana are limited in scope and number. It is substantially easier to smoke on a daily basis than it is to drink, imo. I think both habits have drawbacks and sociological consequences, not the least of which is those with whom one affiliates, but not the most of which is it’s effects on an individual’s general disposition.

          • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 4:00 am |

            I have no idea what you mean to say in relation to anything I have said here. You have not addressed any of my arguments clearly. “Freaking out” is a paraphrasing of your “all sorts of fucked up” and “psychological side effects”. Again, can’t this be remedied by smoking less………? Sophistry sucks…….I’m tired

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 4:06 am |


          • Jin The Ninja | Jun 3, 2013 at 10:55 am |

            well-thought out?

            your arguments are hardly that.

            unless of course you are adopting the role of the experimental grammatician and linguist, in which you imbue new meaning to phrases and words at every stroke of the keyboard. your pedantic prescriptivist reproaches to my ‘dangling modifiers,’ must therefore be abandoned.

          • Spider Jerusalem | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:21 am |

            You are an idiot.

          • Monkey See Monkey Do | Jun 3, 2013 at 7:32 am |

            If I don’t freak out on the weed I just bought than I get pretty cranky and dramatic.
            Sociological Consequences:
            Smoking weed all the time can turn you into a fucking lazy Sadhu that’s no good for hard labour. And it makes people who don’t smoke it suffer from psychotic meltdowns which only very rarely effect the smoker.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 8:48 am |

            If you would like to get conspiratorial about prohibition of marijuana usage, I would not discourage it. But lets look at practicality too, and try to formulate a weltanschau via both paradigms.

            My experience having had used for about 6 years of varying frequency is that ‘rare is the man whose marijuana usage does not color his choice of friends and activities’…let’s start with this idea to ascertain the face value of its illegality. I refuse to engage in an immoderate debate about the subject, because I feel like the superlative arguments of both sides are analogously fallacious.

          • Spider Jerusalem | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:23 am |

            Look at you! You cracked open the ole’ thesaurus in an attempt to look less moronic. Good for you! … Well, either that, or you gave control over to someone who paid attention in class.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:48 pm |

            I used no thesaurus in creating that statement, and I take that as a compliment.

          • Spider Jerusalem | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:38 am |

            This is a tired and bogus argument. In fact, Disinfo talked about this nonsense years ago in their first book. Plenty of people smoke weed all the time and are very successful. Is a lazy person smoking weed lazy because of the weed, or are they just lazy?

            Marijuana was a recreational drug used by hard working Mexican laborers in the American South West for many years before anti-Hispanic marijuana laws began to target the laborers. To this day we continue to prohibit the use of marijuana because of those same racist, illogical, and uneducated policies. The people that argue this isn’t true either listened to their D.A.R.E. teacher like a good little drone, or are illiterate. I say illiterate because there are countless books on the subject, and hundreds of peer reviewed studies from around the world proving how harmless marijuana usage is, not only to your health, but to your lifestyle.

            None of this is news. In fact, NYC Mayor Laguardia, when marijuana was first made illegal in his city, commissioned a scientific inquiry that proved the harmless effects of marijuana. In the 1970’s Richard Nixon commissioned a study that proved the same thing. These studies are available for anyone to read, all they need do is look.

          • Monkey See Monkey Do | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:51 pm |

            Just Lazy. And weed makes being lazy more fun. But yeh I agree with what you say.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:08 am |


          • “Personally, I think that cannabis forces/encourages self restraint by exposing weak-points,insecurities, and bad decisions generally. Ironically, this is what I believe causes anxiety and paranoia.”
            this may be the most important effect of partaking in entheogens. As it is said, “Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom”. Paranoia and anxiety is too often demonized(sometimes rightfully) and isn’t often enough regarded as the specific tools that they are.

          • Spider Jerusalem | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:21 am |

            Please stop. It’s pretty clear you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, whether that be on the subject of marijuana OR the English language. Just stop. Your opinions became immediately invalidated when you began to argue the definition of “xenophobia” with people that actually know what they’re talking about.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:51 pm |


        • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:00 am |

          also, my generation doesn’t know what a hi-fi is. Please please elaborate.

          • CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm |

            What is this “hi-fi” you speak of??

          • Opposite Day | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm |

            Why has no one explained this “hi-fi” thing? What is it? Is it the same as “wifi” but for old people?

        • You get stoned enough you get the munchies and take a nap.

        • The Well Dressed Man | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:19 am |

          I tried to make a funny, marginally at your expense, below… nothing personal. I really try to avoid cheap shots! And you’re one of those thoughtful Christians I hope to see more of.

        • CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 10:23 am |

          I never understood this… I’ve known hundreds of people, if not more, that smoke pot, or have smoked pot. Zero of them, ZERO, have ever hallucinated on it. And I’m talking about some bomb tree, 20%+ THC content. I’m pretty sure the hallucinating on pot thing is just a myth. I never could understand why people say what you’re saying. It doesn’t align with reality in the least bit. Maybe in an extremely rare case someone would slightly hallucinate, but from experience, that just doesn’t happen. I don’t mean to single you out but seeing what you wrote strikes a chord with me.

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:51 pm |

            Well I think the term hallucinate is a bit off anyway, even with strong doses of psychedelics I have never seen anything that wasn’t there, just things are a bit distorted. If I don’t smoke for a week or so and get really high though, I tend to get a bit paranoid and feel like I’m on a mild psychedelic trip. Other people have told me the same. I think that’s what people are talking about, they just misuse the word hallucinate. So the solution- get high everyday.

          • CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm |

            Ok, thank you for elaborating on that. I have taken psychedelics (mushrooms) also and have never seen anything that wasn’t there. People have told me about hallucinating on mushrooms but I just can’t seem to make it work for me. Things might appear cloudy or patterns may seem like they’re moving but I wouldn’t consider that a hallucination. It’s more of an optical illusion or an effect caused by pupil dilation. Maybe this is what some people experience while on marijuana? IDK, to me, marijuana is the weakest illicit drug out there. I guess some people just can’t handle their shit.

          • Most of the time, the truly stunning visual effects on mushrooms happen with your eyes closed. It is only with stuff like DMT and salvia that you’re “pushed into another dimension” that will most certainly occupy your entire visual field, even with your eyes open.

          • CosmicAmazing | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm |

            I tried salvia before. It was the strangest experience, I felt like I was disconnected from my body but at the same time still trapped inside. Never saw any visuals though.. I want to try DMT really bad, but where the hell would you get it?

          • Um, many,many years ago when I was much younger, and had much less of a tolerance for herb I saw some crazy shit that totally blew my mind. Have also had experiences that were not “hallucinations” per se, but very intense and disturbing nonetheless.
            There is no doubt in my mind that under the right circumstances, cannabis can be a very powerful entheogen.

          • CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm |

            Oh I agree that it’s an entheogen, but it’s effects on the visual cortex are nothing like what the anti-pot folks claim. I get so angry when ‘being high’ is portrayed in close resemblance to an acid trip. It’s nothing like that, not even remotely close.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:01 am |


        • Damian Caligula | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm |

          True if you have no tolerance for it, it can be strong, which means you should smoke less or less potent strands if your not used to it. Anyway to come down off weed all you need to do is eat and it goes away quick. Doesn’t work that easily with most other drugs. Why does a christyan with an obviously condescending attitude and a penchant for name calling need to whine about people being “xenophobic against christians”? Maybe the fact that the majority of them act like you is why.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 4, 2013 at 1:50 pm |

            I complained about xenophobia because there was an actual bigoted comment that was removed by the moderators. I am calling the shots like I see them, I can’t expect to not get dirty in an argument. Doesn’t anyone here have respect for a minority voice? or are you just as sullied as those you decry?

            OK I don’t the fuck know about you guys, but I took a shot of my friend’s bacardi 420 this past summer and got ripped. 1 shot, and it contained pot that had already been used in a vaporizer. legalizing pot would be very out of place given the weak nature of currently legal drugs like caffeine, tobacco, and (relatively) alcohol.

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm |

            Smoking it and orally ingesting it have vastly different effects. Maybe your friend put too much in it. It’s harder to judge the dosage because the effects aren’t as sudden when you eat it.

        • Opposite Day | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:43 pm |

          Were u tripping when u wrote this? Because it’s not even 0.0008% factual.

        • Damian Caligula | Jun 4, 2013 at 8:57 pm |

          If you get drunk enough, you will just die. The LD50 for alcohol is .40 BAC, for Marijuana it’s 1:20,000.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 5, 2013 at 1:04 am |

            that actually illustrates my point that you can get way more fucked up on marijuana than alcohol, but like I said, there is a limited scope and number of analogies between these two drugs so it is not a very good basis for an argument.

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 5, 2013 at 11:13 am |

            Here’s some info.

            The LD50 of alcohol occurs at a blood alcohol concentration of 0.45%. What this means is that if 100 people presented with a blood alcohol concentration of 0.45% – half of them would die. LD50 = lethal dose for 50%.
            Simulating a drinking game in which a participant rank many 1oz shots of 80 proof alcohol (40% alcohol) in quick succession – here is how many drinks it would take for a player to reach the LD50 for alcohol.
            An 80lb woman would reach 0.45% BAC after 8 shots
            A 100lb woman would reach 0.45% BAC after 10 shots.
            A 120lb woman would reach 0.45% BAC after 12 shots
            A 140 lb woman would reach 0.45% BAC after 14 shots
            A 160 lb woman would reach 0.45% BAC after 16 shots
            A 120 lb man would reach 0.45% BAC after 14 drinks
            A 140 lb man would reach 0.45% BAC after 17 drinks
            A 160lb man would reach 0.45% BAC after 19 drinks
            A 180 lb man would reach 0.45% BAC after 21 drinks

            For Marijuana
            “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 6, 2013 at 12:20 pm |

            that is a ridiculous argument because it is making abstruse analogies between two very different drugs. Please spare me the pedantry.

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 6, 2013 at 12:58 pm |

            Did you not make an analogy between the two when you said “that actually illustrates my point that you can get way more fucked up on marijuana than alcohol” and “I think it is harder for people to find self-restraint when partaking of marijuana expressly because it has no physical cap for getting high, unlike drinking”? Anyway this is getting really old and I’m bored with it. Goodbye.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 6, 2013 at 1:48 pm |

            oh no ouch. you lose points for not caring about the other persons pov and not knowing how to argue. Godspeed.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 6, 2013 at 1:57 pm |

            the ratio of a lethal dose to a dose that gets you really fucked up is not necessarily proportional between drugs, that is the flaw with your argument. I too am tired of this. It is meaningless and I never wanted to argue on one side anyway. That type of argument is tired and asinine. I was hoping to find more enlightened conversations on disinfo but instead I got made fun of for making common sense, conservative statements, harassed for being christian, and decried for using advanced language. Oh well, what can I expect?

          • common sense conservative ≠ enlightened

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 6, 2013 at 3:09 pm |

            correction* “common-sense, conservative” these are two different modifiers and I kick myself for not making that clear

            common sense as in ‘something that no one can rationally dispute’ which is why I got all sorts of tears and rhetorical vomit from people who wish it weren’t true. that is my diagnosis, anyhow.

          • I tend to agree with Einstein’s attributed definition of common sense as “the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.” The obvious is not always true.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 7, 2013 at 1:01 am |

            I think this is getting quite semantic, but I value your opinion. If we might not speculate on the unwritten thesis of, it would certainly involve a clause resembling “very little if anything can be categorized as common.”

    • Noah_Nine | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:28 am |

      Alcohol is far more destructive…. while I agree that certain strains of MJ are almost too strong it’s all about which strain you are smoking… they have strains to help you study, to help you sleep, to kill pain, to make you giggly etc. very specific results… It’s not all the same… I’m sure they have strains with “discrete” side effects … think about how many people smoke illegally that lead perfectly productive healthy lives… it would be no different if they smoked legal herb….
      sounds like you must have had a bad experience with some super killer bud… like maybe you got the fear or something…. (the fear is a very real thing).

      • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:29 am |

        How about you smoke less…….? Is vodka too strong?Whiskey? IPA?

      • kowalityjesus | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:09 am |

        Honestly, “destructive” is a subjective term. Alcohol lets you know when it is destroying your life by physically breaking you down. Marijuana doesn’t necessarily cause as much physical detriment, but it can just as easily destroy your life IMHO.

        • Damian Caligula | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm |

          Christianity has destroyed far more lives than Marijuana ever could.

          • Without a doubt.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 4, 2013 at 11:29 am |

            entropy-lowering invertebrate, member of an ancient class of haters, your statement is patently unprovable and absurd, not to mention way off base and untrue. Argue against my position, which you have cowardly not responded to because it is right, not against me username.

          • Matthew 5:22

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 4, 2013 at 1:35 pm |

            Ohh I’m so hurt by your big intelligent words, I think I’ll go cry now. History proves my statement correct, try reading it sometime. I’m sure the families of the people killed in the crusades and the inquisition didn’t suffer nearly as much as whoever’s life has supposedly been ruined by getting high. Right?

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 4, 2013 at 1:53 pm |

            If you had any type of elevated sensibility you would at least appreciate the originality of my insults. forming an analogy between a religion and a drug is absurd. another flagless hater on the internet, how original. while we’re at it, lets criticize the chinese for the massacres that happened in the ching dynasty, or the Mexicans for sacrificing human beings 400 years ago.

          • Damian Caligula | Jun 4, 2013 at 8:42 pm |

            You said my statement was patently unprovable and untrue. I proved it to be otherwise. Give me an example of someone whose life was ruined by Marijuana.

          • kowalityjesus | Jun 5, 2013 at 1:01 am |

            I renege my previous position that your statement is “untrue,” and simply insist that it is “absurd and inapplicable”.

            Marijuana is an interesting drug which I have used to an immoderate extent. I would say that “destroying” or “ruining” one’s life is completely subjective, as only God can know whose life is lived in sin and vainity. But I can tell you that using marijuana fostered a schism between myself and a large part of my family and also my career path. This was bad, but the marijuana was in the end enlightening, id est God helped me make the most of my sin, as he does personally for everyone willing to repent and submit. Today, in light of my experiences, I would ask for us to pause before we steam ahead on legalization because it will unquestionably be the strongest drug in several generations to see official legistlative condoning in the USA.

          • CosmicAmazing | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:29 pm |

            Ain’t that the truth!

    • DeepCough | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:11 am |

      It doesn’t even belong in the same class as alcohol: unlike alcohol, weed will treat and even cure your cancer, as opposed to causing it or making it worse!

    • Opposite Day | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm |

      There is so much “WRONG” with what you’re saying it’s almost troll status..

  6. watch out for nicotine spiking to make it addictive. if a corporate monopoly hijacks legalization and elbows out small business growers by rigging the laws then it’s back to the underground. tax yes, large corporations no.

    • This made me think of paraquat for some reason, but they wouldn’t use if they were trying to sell.

  7. OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:16 am |

    This is Awesome!! I’ve been waiting for a brand to give my loyalty to forever. Fuck my local organic small-scale family grower, I want mexi-shwag grown by exploited farmers!!! When can I get this at Wal-Mart??

  8. Noah_Nine | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:30 am |

    hmmm. i don’t know…. if starbucks is his business model then……

    • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:47 am |


      • Noah_Nine | Jun 3, 2013 at 5:14 am |

        sorry…. i kind trailed off there….. i just think starbucks has taken the concept of a specialty coffee shop and homoginized it…my favorite three coffee shops in seattle each have their own distinct qualities that I enjoy… that’s missing from the starbucks experience… a starbucks latte in detroit is exactly the same as a starbucks latte in london… variety is the spice of life… one of the enjoyable aspects of smoking herb is sampling from the myriad of different strains available… who wants to smoke streamlined, boring pot that’s just good enough but not exceptional?

        (plus starbucks burns their beans which I know has nothing to do with this but tastes like shit….)

        ….sigh… first world issues…..

        • Jin The Ninja | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:15 am |

          that starbucks is an evil corporate overlord with horrid coffee and burnt beans has everything to do with this. they function much like a drug cartel in the buy/sell of the coffee commodities market. they make a truly horrid product alongside some pretty insidious social values and the masses literally lap up their insipid swill and corporate propaganda.

          if the people who sell coffee don’t know the first thing about coffee or how it is produced (or more tellingly, knowingly put out a product of indiscriminate taste and of poor ecological and labour value) should they really be selling coffee at all?

          i’d strongly decry the legalisation of the plant if all we had to smoke was cheap, commercial strains purchased from a homogenised (as you say), truly lame attempt at cafe culture.

          on another note if anyone needs recommends for coffee in the tdot, i have strong and enlightened opinions about where to find it.

  9. ZeroCult | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:41 am |

    Im from the netherlands, different situation because all growing accept medical (low thc lvl) is still illegal so the coffeeshops buy on the black market. Makes branding a stupid idea for producers. But does show that really no consumers are ”looking for a brand” as long as enough selling points are allowed to garruantee competition on their part. Coffeeshops are the brands here, and different strains of weed for as far as they can be distingueshed (like haze or cheeze). The idea of brands for mariuana sounds as rediculous as having 6 different brands of brocoli in the supermarket, witch are all the same strain of brocolli. I can get the same weed for half the price on the black market. Best weed on the market (before they put a max on the thc lvls) was generally from small growers who grew as a hobby and for an extra buck but not to get rich. Often they only had like 5 plants and took pride in their quality not in the money they made. That weed could have sold for 4 times as mutch in london or paris. But these growers didnt like dealing with criminals so they still sold to the coffeeshops. Coffeeshops who sold this kind of weed generally just though up names for each batch. Even if they knew it was the same grower growing the same strain, theyd think up a new name based on their first impression of smoking it. These shops had a big variety, verry good advice to customers, and catered to locals mostly.

  10. OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:44 am |

    it’s a fucking plant that is easy to grow!! What brand of tomato is your favorite? What’s your fave spinach? This will not be very successful. They will try, they will have minimal success and it’s main effect on the market would be to drop the prices for domestic growers, but this is based on the exploitation of poor farmers- the same reason that all “conventional” produce is cheap. Cost equals more than $$. Support your local organic farmers.

    • DrDavidKelly | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:05 am |

      If they can get around the legalities then growing pot and having it availible in stores sounds like a very viable business to me. It is cheap as chips to grow and even cheaper on a mass scale. Using the grocery analogy only stregthens the case for a large scale model being successful. Very successful. I mean if you liked smoking pot I’m sure you’d really enjoy the convenience of going to weedmart and picking up a few ounces of high grade vacuum sealed dope for less than you could grow it yourself. Economies of scale …

      What’s next, the mass-marketing of psilocybin as a life coach program?

      • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:17 am |

        I wish, my friend. I wish………..
        Personally, I am not against a grocery, or public market, model. But as with everything, I believe it will be most beneficial to support those sources that are most local and ethical. As a side note, it is not VERY easy to grow and process the highest quality herb. That will continue to be a niche market as it is with beer, wine, liquor, tobacco, etc…..

  11. The Well Dressed Man | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:42 am |

    We’re almost there in many states already. You can bet that a number of corporations already have copyrighted cannabis brands in the works for the next level.
    I feel that if legalization and regulation is implemented correctly, we can divert massive revenue toward infrastructure, and away from law enforcement and cartels.

    • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 2:59 am |

      “massive revenue” meaning…….taxes paid on a ……….plant? Fuck cartels and the DEA but don’t try to get folks’ money in taxes simply because it’s a valuable commodity. Stop supporting the DEA, prison industrial complex and the “drug war” in general and we’ll be a wealthier nation. Leave my money alone. Why is a tax on cannabis reasonable?

      • The Well Dressed Man | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:10 am |

        Grow your own! Brew your own too! If we’re going to rebuild our roads, schools, and energy grid, the funds have to come from somewhere. Taxing a recreational drug is something we already do with retail alcohol. I’m totally open to suggestions of a better way. The drug war is definitely holding us back.

        • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:32 am |

          I agree.Thank you. I am defensive about this tax thing because it seems to be a given in the process of legalization. I do think it’s BS though. Where taxes SHOULD come from is a big and different discussion. Seriously, if we stop spending money on prosecuting people associated with cannabis, we will see some huge gains financially. I would guess that just by doing that, we could afford either public healthcare or free college, at least a huge piece of that pie. Anyone got some stats on $$ spent on cannabis prosecutions/prison?

          • I found it…

            Apparently $42 billion. That’s $140 per person. Definitely not enough for healthcare or college, but a huge amount of money collectively.

          • Noah_Nine | Jun 3, 2013 at 5:37 am |

            any extra $$ will only end up going to the military industrial complex…. it’s like a $$ vacuum….

          • Mr. Good Bomb | Jun 3, 2013 at 9:15 am |

            8 billion a year I just heard in the film The Union. Not enough for either healthcare or free college unless I’m wrong.

            America sucks because all money goes to the military. That is the single largest reason your country is the way it is.

            Which is impossible to protest without em sticking the hounds of hell on you.

          • OregonIan | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm |

            The figure I found was $42 billion- that was in an article on alternet. When I tried to post the link here my comment was never posted. Anyway, that comes out to $142 per US citizen, still not enough for college or healthcare, but still pretty substantial

  12. DeepCough | Jun 3, 2013 at 3:09 am |

    Don’t let the corporations and the government do to weed what they did to beer and tobacco–and pretty much everything else: turn it to utter shit for the sake of one CEO’s profit!

    • Damian Caligula | Jun 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm |

      You can get good beer or shitty beer the choice is yours. I imagine it would be the same for Marijuana if it
      was legal.

      • DeepCough | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm |

        It would, but keep in mind, it wasn’t until about 20 or 30 years ago, depending on the label, that the microbrews started up, and due in part because of the monopoly on beer by Budweiser, Miller Lite, Coors, et al that flooded the market with their own shitty cans of pisswater.

  13. Noah_Nine | Jun 3, 2013 at 5:18 am |

    this will eventually start taking money out of the pockets of people who grow to supplement their incomes…

  14. CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 9:10 am |

    Mexican weed sucks! WTF is this guy thinking?

    • My thoughts exactly. Why the fuck would you wanna dick around with that shitty Mexican swag, when there is so much quality domestic herb, especially in Calofornia? Also, that shit is essentially drenched in blood, since it comes from violent drug cartels. Better to leave it alone.

      • CosmicAmazing | Jun 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm |

        Only time I smoked that garbage is when I went to Cancun for vaca. I was drunk at the time, bought some, smoked a quarter rolled within two blunts and was barely high. That stuff doesn’t even deserve to be called marijuana. You could get ‘higher’ holding your breath.

  15. that’s already happened and has done for ages. the people in charge of the weed supply are still capitalists, and they still do the same nasty shit that legal capitalists do.
    have you not heard of uncured weed being sprayed with various nasty substances to give the impression it’s been properly dried and cured?
    that’s in the UK anyway, maybe in the US all your weed is grown and distributed by utopian hippies who do it for the love, man. here the supply is controlled by mental violent bastards who don’t give a fuck for the health of their customers.

  16. Spider Jerusalem | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:16 am |

    All they need to do is pay off—oh, excuse me, “LOBBY,” politicians to legalize it and it will be so. Why do you think it’s still illegal? Money talks. As soon as the pro-marijuana dollars start to outweigh the anti-marijuana dollars, weed will be legal.

  17. doodahman | Jun 3, 2013 at 11:58 am |

    The business model for weed will be wineries and microbreweries. The man is an idiot, blinded by greed to reality. Weed is like both beer and wine: endless varieties and a range of product quality from blah to blast off, with prices corresponding. People who drink shit beer will by shit weed, people who care about what they put in their bodies will seek quality.

  18. bookwench | Jun 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm |

    Aside from all the other salient points being made here, what struck me was that he’s going to IMPORT from Mexico, as if there are isn’t an abundant supply here in the US (ever heard of California?) already being cultivated by experienced growers. Adding insult to injury. (not that any self-respecting grower would take that corp. slave job, but it’s the principle). I think the Wal-Mart-ization of pot is an appalling prospect.

  19. nedmorlef | Jun 4, 2013 at 1:45 am |

    i grow better dope under a desk lamp than the sun shiniest part of mehico.

  20. This will happen, and when it does a handfull of uncle sams puppets will reap cool points from the less savy. Its another way to keep people dumb, secretly poisoned, complacent, and it fucks over farmers. It also causes a huge divide in society. And if anyone has a problem with it….to fucking bad. Because as soon as the rebellious subculture sect against this is villainized and ground into the dirt, the corporations will package the remains and feed it to the sheep. This is textbook trickanery. The times are ripe for big bro to play the “cool dad” card. Expect sitcoms to program the fun of it all into the herd.

    I realize this is a dark picture but its what always happens. I say help who you can, let the media clowns scream about it and enjoy the show from a distance. The meek shall inherit the earth…..and the meek do not watch fox or shop at wal-mart.

  21. CosmicAmazing | Jun 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm |

    Oooo, oooo, I’m comment number 100! 🙂

  22. we don’t want corporate weed. we want small business artisan growers. if the law becomes rigged to allow monopolies then the business goes back underground.

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