Bush-Cheney Illegal NSA Spying Began Before 9/11, Telecom CEO Claims

NSA spyingThe spying’s purpose isn’t to keep us safe from the terrorists. Digital Journal writes:

Contradicting a statement by ex-vice president Dick Cheney on Sunday that warrantless domestic surveillance might have prevented 9/11, 2007 court records indicate that the Bush-Cheney administration began such surveillance at least 7 months prior to 9/11.

The Bush administration bypassed the law requiring such actions to be authorized by FISA court warrants. Former QWest CEO John Nacchios said that at a meeting with the NSA on February 27, 2001, he and other QWest officials declined to participate. AT&T, Verizon and Bellsouth all agreed to shunt customer communications records to an NSA database.

Other sources corroborate the former CEO’s allegations, which were made in the course of his legal defense against insider trading charges. Both Slate and National Journal have published reports in which sources are quoted which support the former CEO’s claims.

13 Comments on "Bush-Cheney Illegal NSA Spying Began Before 9/11, Telecom CEO Claims"

  1. DeepCough | Jul 17, 2013 at 11:22 am |

    Sadly, this is old news.

    • Sure is. Over half a century old. Those companies listed there? All from when Bell Telephone was broken up. Bell Labs was instrumental in founding the NSA.

      NSA intercepted every single telegram going into or out of the US from the 1940s to the 1970s. After people found out, FISA courts were established for oversight in ’78. Every year since then, they’ve issued hundreds of secret warrants. Only a couple have been denied. In the ’90s, the FBI was doing precisely what “leaked” documents say the NSA is doing now. Etc etc etc.

      I’m not sure how we can honestly call guys like Snowden whistleblowers when this crap has been public for so long. Public awareness hasn’t stopped it and isn’t stopping it. When the technology is available, it will be used.

      • Rhoid Rager | Jul 18, 2013 at 1:18 am |

        I think they’re trying to provoke a civil uprising so the banks can safely debase the dollar. That’s not something that can be done in times of peace, because then all the public ire is directed at the real masterfucks of society–the bankers. So all this bullshit with Snowden is a ruse in my opinion. But the one thing the bankers haven’t anticipated is the public’s apparently astounding apathy. That might turn out to be a good thing.

        • Possible.

          It doesn’t make as much sense as a conspiracy theory as it does for damage control, but the leaks could also be used to frighten and deter people (friend or enemy) from using the technologies they pointed out so clearly.

          After all:
          “You can’t have something that’s a secret be a deterrent. Because if you don’t know it’s there, it doesn’t scare you.”
          -Gen. James Cartwright (the fmr. Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, before he was under investigation for leaking Stuxnet)

  2. InfvoCuernos | Jul 17, 2013 at 11:34 am |

    Not those guys, they were totally trustworthy and honest(just don’t take Dick hunting-he’s a little trigger happy).

  3. I blame Clinton.

    • Clearly this is Carter’s fault. If he was trigger happy, we could have crushed our enemies, seen them driven before us, and heard the lamentation of their women.

  4. Anarchy Pony | Jul 17, 2013 at 11:40 am |

    Hmm, it’s almost as if the constant surveillance is more about preserving the class structure and the oligarchy’s control rather than helping to maintain the security of the nation from external threats. But that’s unpossible!

    • What! Give me some of those goofballs that you are wacked out on, because you are making some sort of sense.

  5. Liam_McGonagle | Jul 17, 2013 at 7:02 pm |

    FISA was right not to get all shirty about this. After all, what kind of appeal to propriety could a shadow court credibly mount? To paraphrase:

    “FISA has made it’s decision; now let them enforce it!”
    (Andrew Jackson re: Worcester v Georgia)

    “How many divisions does FISA have?”
    (Stalin re: Papal authority)

    Gotta ‘go along to get along’, as they say. Particularly when you’re up to your own eyes in bullsh*t.

  6. Yes, but they did it because they knew Obama would be president. So it’s still his fault!

  7. seems like everyone except for journalists already knew and accepted this. its been going on since the end of ww2, where the fuck have the media been the past 70 years?

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