Lee Camp: The Zimmerman Trial Goes Much Deeper Than The Media Will Tell You

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  1. Charlie Primero | Jul 16, 2013 at 5:25 pm |

    I wish Lee Camp would get a clue about what’s really going on in the world instead of falling for every oligarch manufactured meme that comes down the pipe.

    Consider his Disinfo interview. It was painfully evident the poor guy lacks even the most basic education on political economy and/or philosophy.

    Imagine professionally publishing weekly political rants without first spending a hundred or so hours studying the basics of it so as not to appear as a buffoon. A normal person would be embarrassed.

    • amen – I have disinfo in my newsfeed and his poopenheimer face keeps showing up – what a slick intro for some stupid bedroom rant nonsense –

    • DrDavidKelly | Jul 16, 2013 at 9:53 pm |

      What is political economy and political philosophy? I’m intrigued. Also what do think Lee has missed – can you clarify?

      • Rhoid Rager | Jul 17, 2013 at 1:05 am |

        I’ve studied both political economy and political philosophy extensively in skool and on my own, and I’m not really sure what they are. They’re both dominated by multiple competing world views that seem to partially reflect reality, but never account for everything that’s happening. My (non)conclusion has encouraged me to think that both of those fields are manufactured intellectual misdirections; their incredibly ornate strategic feints meant to draw our attention as far away as possible from our the one and only source of social power–our immediate locality.

        As far as what Lee is missing? The whole idea of misdirection would, again, be my answer. This statement will most likely not receive a warm welcome, but there is no such thing as ‘racism’. There never was. This is so because ideas don’t exist outside of the people that believe them. This is the biggest misconception in our world, and it troubles us the most. We’re drunk on empty ideas.

        • DrDavidKelly | Jul 17, 2013 at 3:59 am |

          I appreciate your response RR. And I share your utopian dream.

          • Rhoid Rager | Jul 17, 2013 at 4:10 am |

            Utopian? Who said anything about Utopia? I was talking about reality.

          • DrDavidKelly | Jul 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm |

            Oh well the reality I live in has people that believe in these concepts in it. I know you live out in the country and there aren’t many people out there, let alone the oafs I see on a regular basis. Ideas might not exist outside of the people who believe them but I can assure you there are plenty of ‘real’ people who do. Simply igoring them doesn’t make them go away … although that’s probably not a bad tactic.

        • Racism never existed? The neither did freedom, religion, technology, enlightenment, property, lies or truth.

          • Rhoid Rager | Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm |

            Make that motherfuckin’ strawman dance, baby!
            But, actually, it would have been more honest just to downvote me, rather than misrepresent what I said. I get that you don’t want to engage, and that’s fine; it’s an ‘outlandish’ claim that people aren’t actually motivated to do the things they do by their own upbringing and internal strife. It’s so much more convenient to use a monolithic ideological metaphor–like ‘racism’–to pin our problems on. The trouble is, people get sucked into metaphors and lose view of other crucial factors, like their own free will and sense of responsibility that naturally goes along with it. Ideology is so much of an easier target, eh?


          • Allow me to double down on my alleged misrepresentation. You wrote, “there is no such thing as ‘racism’. There never was.” Meanwhile, I never said people weren’t motivated to do the things they do by their own upbringing and internal strife. In my view, those things are the foundation of ideology.

  2. festernaecus | Jul 16, 2013 at 6:10 pm |

    “… In 33 precincts, that number jumps up to 90%.”

    Not suggesting the stop-and-frisk law isn’t an excuse for institutionalized racism, but that’s a bit misleading. Whites are a minority in every borough except Manhattan and Staten Island. The Bronx itself is 36.5% black to 29.7% white. In Melrose or Longwood, it would be entirely unsurprising to find that 70% of stop-and-frisk victims were Puerto Rican. Racism is real, and the stop-and-frisk policy in New York is a heinous violation of civil rights. But you don’t have to cook the books to make that conclusion.

  3. ManwithnoCountry | Jul 16, 2013 at 8:38 pm |

    I have an odd feeling that he’s 1) representing a good many people. 2) wrong. He definitely means well, but at best it’s not so simple as he makes it, and the comments validate my hunch. Still, I wouldn’t know how to begin thinking about this without falling into the same hole he did.

    • He used this incident to share his political agenda. Something I bet will be common of this incident for awhile.

    • DrDavidKelly | Jul 16, 2013 at 9:59 pm |

      Yes this issue has been sticky … It’s hard to conceive without falling into the usual traps. Being an outsider though I have a tendancy to view it more as a “he didn’t racially profile/fighting for his life vs he did profile and shot that guy cos he was beatin on him” kinda thing.

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