Anti-Vax Megachurch Unleashes Measles Outbreak In Texas

Anti-Vax Megachurch

The church is part of the empire of megapastor Kenneth Copeland, who advocates faith healing and a connection between vaccines and autism. The Dallas Morning News reports that the church is relenting and members are receiving vaccinations:

Tarrant County health officials have linked 11 measles cases to a megachurch near Eagle Mountain Lake.

Eagle Mountain International Church officials confirmed Tuesday that a person who was exposed to the infectious disease while on a mission trip to Indonesia had visited their church, about 50 miles northwest of Dallas. “[The man] shook hands,” Robert Hayes, the church’s risk manager, said. “He gave a number of people a big hug.”

Those infected range in age from 4 months to 44 years. It took time to narrow the source because measles symptoms don’t surface right away, officials said.

Though the disease is rare in the U.S., measles is so contagious that it infects 90 percent of those who are not immune and come into contact with an infected person.

54 Comments on "Anti-Vax Megachurch Unleashes Measles Outbreak In Texas"

  1. We all got measles as a kid, what’s the big deal? There’s half a dozen illnesses we more or less need to get as a kid, like a rite of passage, to build up immunities. Skip one of them, and the result is a weakened population extremely prone to immune system deficiencies.

    • Henry Sutton | Aug 23, 2013 at 4:29 pm |

      People used to get polio, mumps and the plague also. Damn vaccines weakening the population! Let’s introduce a nice round of smallpox and let the fittest survive. Now, If you will just go get infected, we can get started.

      • Cathy McMahan | Aug 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm |

        They create them and then get stupid people to line up.

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 24, 2013 at 2:06 pm |

          No, that’s what church is for.

          • Cathy McMahan | Aug 25, 2013 at 8:36 pm |

            really, I have never seen a church promote that. And after what happened to my son I would never do it, church or not. If you fed your child the chemicals they put in vaccines, you would be in prison.

          • Your knowledge of chemistry is so vast! Your statements are ignorant and the bit about “losing your child to vaccines” is a gas. It is clear that you are in denial about the actual circumstances involving your son and this farce is far more socially acceptable then lets say neglecting your infant.

          • Cathy McMahan | Sep 1, 2013 at 7:53 am |

            hey dumbass my son was no infant, and you just proved my point, you can’t talk to those who are brain dead. Dr. Maurice Hilleman (formerly w/Merck), who admitted to the deadly nature of the most trusted vaccines. ( A neurotoxic mercury which causes autism: There are
            25 mcg in one average flu vaccine, and the EPA safety limit is 5
            micrograms, so children who are vaccinated simultaneously with multiple*
            vaccines receive over 10 times the safety limit of mercury in one day.

            • Human albumin: The protein portion of blood from pooled human venous plasma;
            when injected causes fever, chills, hives, rash, headache, nausea,
            breathing difficulty, and rapid heart rate. Injecting “pooled blood” can
            result in a loss of body cell mass and cause immunodeficiency virus
            infection, or contain SV40, AIDS, cancer or Hepatitis B from drug

            • Formaldehyde: Highly carcinogenic fluid used to
            embalm corpses. Ranked one of the most hazardous compounds to human
            health; can cause liver damage, gastrointestinal issues, reproductive
            deformation, respiratory distress and cancer. Plus, formaldehyde has
            been known to fail to deactivate the virus the vaccine is intended to cure, thus enabling a live virus to enter your blood and infect your system.

            • Phenoxyethanol:
            A glycol ether/chemical; highly toxic to the nervous system, kidneys,
            and liver. The FDA warns “can cause shut down of the central nervous
            system (CNS), vomiting and contact dermatitis” in cosmetics; imagine
            when injected into your blood.

            • Aluminum phosphate: Greatly increases toxicity of mercury, so caution about minimum mercury tolerance is therefore severely underestimated. “I KNOW ENOUGH DUMB ASS” I DON’T NEED TO BE A CHEMIST TO KNOW THAT INJECTING THESE IN A BABY IS WRONG!!!!!!!!

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm |

      Measles has a fatality rate more than 3x that of influenza, can cause brain damaging meningitis & sterility all of which are most likely in children under 12mo, which is when the vaccine is given. Immunization to measles does not result in anything other than immunity to that virus & has no affect on acquired immunity to other pathogens. Most of the damaging effects are caused by the bodies own immune response. The virus itself has the ability to suppress the bodies ability to respond to other opportunistic infections & can induce autoimmune responses to the bodies own tissues.

      • Liberal lies!

      • Matt Staggs | Aug 24, 2013 at 11:02 am |

        Beat me to it.

      • Cathy McMahan | Aug 24, 2013 at 12:40 pm |

        Bull shit

      • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 25, 2013 at 8:06 pm |

        Calypso, what’s your take on flu vaccination? The antivax crowd strikes me as dangerously ignorant, but annual flu shots seem weird. Last year’s caused such a bad reaction I almost went to the ER.

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm |

          If you worked in an environment, such as healthcare, that affords abundant exposure, annual flu vac might not seem as odd. Generally, my take on them is the same as other vaccines. Influenza A has a particularly high rate of evolution since it infects birds. Large, highly mobile populations allow for more mutations, drift & selection.
          Something like influenza A’s mutation rate is an order of magnitude greater than measles. One of the primary reasons that certain viruses were chosen for initial eradication is their low mutation rate. This allows for single dose vaccination.

          Describe ‘reaction’. How long after vaccination?

          • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm |

            It’s mandatory for health professions, I think. Was voluntary on my part, housemate with weak immune system.
            ~7 hours after injection, something was clearly wrong. Temperature measured above 103 F, troubled breathing, headache and delirium. Worst symptoms subsided within 11 hours of dose, but weakness persisted for another couple days.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 28, 2013 at 5:18 am |

            I’m not going to say you didn’t have a reaction, but the high fever & trouble breathing are really unusual and more indicative of already having been exposed to the virus. It’s really a matter of probability & coincidence. Getting a vaccine when you already have an infection can accelerate your immune response.

            Where did you get the immunization? It’s also possible someone screwed up & gave you the high-dose geriatric formulation. The more I’ve thought about it, if your symptoms were as exactly as described, I’d go with this.

          • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 28, 2013 at 11:07 am |

            Campus health center. Maybe they gave me the geriatric dose based on how old I am for an undergrad? Usually I can pass for under-30. Wouldn’t it be unusual for the severe fever and respiratory symptoms to resolve so quickly with infection?

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 28, 2013 at 11:51 am |

            I doubt they’d have the geri (65+yo) dose at a campus center.
            As far as symptom resolution…It’s hard to say what is unusual for any given person’s response to an infection. Milder strains (type B) can hit hard and resolve quickly or just linger like a cold. I got type B in spite of vaccination. The formulation was way off last year.
            The real dangerous reaction to any injection is going to be anaphylaxis and that kicks in fast, within 30 min.
            If you get it again I would wait at the provider a full 30m & if you end up w/ the same symptoms consider it an allergy.

    • StringZero | Aug 23, 2013 at 7:18 pm |

      We all got measles as a kid? When the hell were you born? 😛

      • Craig Bickford | Aug 23, 2013 at 10:10 pm |

        I didn’t have measles when I was a kid.

        • StringZero | Aug 23, 2013 at 11:41 pm |

          Yeah, neither did I. Nor ANYONE else I grew up with. That’s why I was asking RemyC… I want to know if he thought it wasn’t a big deal because he was born before the vaccine was invented 😛

    • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 23, 2013 at 10:19 pm |

      Those words you’re saying… I don’t think they mean what you think they mean.

  2. Or did God send them a plague of measles to punish them for not being anti-vaccine enough?

  3. VaudeVillain | Aug 23, 2013 at 10:18 pm |

    An Evangelical Christian I used to interact with on a forum that is effectively defunct once posted an interesting modern parable that goes well with precisely this brand of stupidity. It went something sort of like this:

    One day, a devout Christian man, we’ll call him “Joe” because I think that is the name of the person from whom I first heard this (if not, my apologies to all involved), saw on the news that the city in which he lives was going to be hit by a massive hurricane and that every was instructed to evacuate.

    Joe’s wife and children, reasonably concerned for their safety, packed their things and evacuated. They begged him to join them, but Joe said “I love you all dearly, but this is my home, and I have faith that God will protect me. I’ll keep everything safe here so you can come home when this is over.” His many friends and acquaintances, likewise, were rebuffed: Joe’s
    faith in God was truly unshakeable even when all those around him
    doubted. So, reluctantly, they left him behind.

    Then it started to rain, and the wind started to blow, and the streets began to flood. Joe looked out and said to himself “however bad this looks, I know in my heart that God will see me through.”

    As the waters rose, a few of his neighbors who had also thought to stay behind came around with a small boat, and one of them shouted “Quick, get in before before this gets any worse! I heard there’s an emergency shelter not too far away but all the roads are flooded and you can only get there by boat! We have room for one more, but we have to go before we sink!” Joe smiled at them, “thank you, but I’ll be fine. The Lord will save me. God Bless you, safe travels to the shelter.” They looked at him, baffled, for a moment, then realizing that we would not get in the boat so, reluctantly, they left him behind.

    The water continued to rise, and after a few hours Joe was forced to climb onto the roof in order to keep out of the frigid and treacherous waters. He said to himself “I know that God is testing my faith, but He would not allow someone who believes as strongly and completely as I do, someone who is good and kind and generous, to die in this flood. I know that God will save me, and I will not lose faith in His greatness.”

    Then, as if by a miracle, the winds slowed for a few minutes, and Joe saw a Coast Guard helicopter flying toward him. A man with a bullhorn called out “WE ARE HERE TO RESCUE YOU. PLEASE GRAB ONTO THE ROPE IF YOU CAN. WE HAVE BLANKETS AND PARAMEDICS ABOARD AND WE WILL TAKE YOU TO SAFETY.” They lowered a ladder, but Joe waved them off. Then, assuming he was hurt, a man was sent down with a stretcher to get him. But he said “Don’t worry about me, God is going to save me. I’m sure there’s somebody else who needs your help far more than I. The man with the stretcher thought that this was the single craziest, most asinine thing he had heard in his entire life, but the storm was going to pick up again and he wasn’t about to let everyone else on board die for Joe’s sake, so he went back up and told the pilot to keep flying.

    Then, at long last, the waters finally rose above the rooftop and Joe drowned. As he approached the pearly gates, he saw God waiting to meet him, and he had only one question.

    “God, I know that you work in mysterious ways, and I would never question your judgment, but if it’s alright to ask, can I know why you didn’t save me? I was so certain that you would.”

    God looked at him for a moment, then replied “Joe, I let your meteorologists know in time to warn you, I provided you with family and friends eager to take you in, I sent kindly strangers with a boat and parted the skies so that brave men and women could rescue you at the last possible moment. I tried to save, but you wouldn’t let me.”

    • atlanticus | Aug 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm |

      One of my favorite modern parables. “God helps those who help themselves”.

      • Anthony Neilsen | Aug 26, 2013 at 1:13 pm |

        Yes, and God helps those who can’t help themselves. Which is all of us.

        • atlanticus | Aug 26, 2013 at 7:15 pm |

          I saw a picture yesterday of this man who had nasal cancer…he just had this hole where his face used to be. Neither your assertion or mine is applicable in his case, let alone starving children, etc. I don’t believe in god the same way you do, so please don’t bother.

  4. Cathy McMahan | Aug 24, 2013 at 12:51 pm |

    I forgot to say all those vaccinated are contagious for about a month, it’s a live virus.

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 24, 2013 at 1:12 pm |

      You forgot to say its a live attenuated virus. Measles itself has a secondary infection rate of over 90%. The attenuated virus only demonstrates pathological secondary transmission in severely immunocompromised persons. If a healthy person were to receive secondary transmission from an attenuated virus they would be getting nothing more than the vaccine which would actually give them immunity to the virulent form.

  5. Hello everyone,

    I’m from amsterdam, holland, and we also have a region called the bible belt with christians who do not vaccinate their children , and the funny thing now i read this is,

    that a month ago also a measzles epidemic has broken out . how can it be that after as far as i know decades of no outbreak there is suddenly aan outbreak alsmost at the same time on different continents in relatively remote areas ?

    it sounds very fishy to me, more like mediapsyop to use fear tacticts to get everyone accepting the next vaccionation for the next fabricated disease.

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 25, 2013 at 11:43 am |

      The problem would be “far as i know”. You might want to check WHO epidemiology records.

      Then again the UN is a psyop. If you get vaccinated they might send HALO jumping titanium-toothed shepherds to steal your porn.

      • ok, there have been small incidents of measles , but not in the numbers of this year,

        And if not taking a vaccination would really be a big problem, why was the bible belt not completely infected in previous years ?
        There should have been a lot of dead children every year relative to the general population.

        Maybe vaccin’s are a hoax, and the real issue is good food and hygiene, and not too much mental stress wich compromises the immune system.

        Most of the big diseases in the last century have been controlled after living standards went up. Later in the 50’s and 60’s the WHO vaccination programmes came along started up by people from the eugenics movement. As our ”humanitarian” Bill Gates is currently doing.

        SO indeed i dont trust the agenda 21 UN-cabbal at all. I dont trust the elitist programmes they develop for our ”benefit”. It’s never just for our benefit. And putting your baby through their benefit seems to me a very dangerous and illogical thing to do.

        I have faith in commom sense and nature and defenitely not the chemical poisoining of young children whose immune system has not had the chance to develop.

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm |

          Ok, I will address just one of these points for you & then you can go through the process of fact discovery that is freely available. You speculate that standard of living, not vaccines are responsible for controlling disease. It is true that increases standard of living comes w/ many possible health benefits and that these may affect the course, availability of treatment & resiliency of the organism. However, if we were to look at a country…say Zimbabwe, which has one of the lowest standards of livings in the world and has a good vaccine program (provided by those eugenically minded humanitarians); you will find they have a very high incidence of the disease prior to vaccination programs & a very low incidence after.
          The numbers are out there. It not hard to find, I’ve already given you a primary source.
          Here is a link to a free online statistics course You have abundant opportunity to progress beyond speculative thought. Many of us already have and we are vaccinated. You too can become part of the New World Order.

      • Where can I buy one of these shepherds you speak of?

  6. There are some studies that reported that children with vitamin A deficiency get measles when if exposed —-
    body has difficulty getting rid of it. And there are natural remedies to be aware if epidemic hits: enemas 2-3 per day to rid body of bug/ toxins and high levels of vitamin C. Since healthcare system just send you home to deal with symptoms (as no cure for virus). Then you can help body heal. I work in healthcare and decline flu shot every year- just wear mask from oct 1-to early spring. People that get all the shots, I hear them get the flu and get the sniffles quite frequently. Medicine helpful but not ready to deal w current superbugs… Detox, juice veggies to nourish body… So body can deal better or abort serious potential issues.

  7. People who put their life and their children’s life in some dumb ass that says God told me this or that are as crazy as the dumb ass doing the talking. Put your faith in NO Man, I never met so many “Jesus Christ” until I spent 30 years in Law Enforcement. Nearly every person that suffers mental illusions thinks he is Jesus Christ or is carrying out Jesus or God’s commands.
    Look at David Koresh, Jim Jones and all the other fanatics that preach “Listen To Me ,The Earth is coming to an end, Take up the serpent, drink poison, and don’t immunize your children, and last but not least, “Pack your bags, Bring $10.00 worth of quarters to pay the fare, Drink this poison, were going to catch the comet” . As P.T. Barnum said “Their is a sucker born every minute”. And I say a lot of people die by stupidity.

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