Donald Duck: High Priest of the Illuminati

“You do find mathematics in the darndest places.”

Donald Duck

Conspiracy theorists are dreadfully thorough, but I guess most of them missed this one: Donald in Mathmagic Land, the 1959 Disney featurette starring Donald Duck which teaches us about the Pythagorean cult, the pentagram, the Fibonacci Sequence, and the Golden Ratio.

As is the case with most men of influence, Walt Disney has been identified as a member of the Illuminati (or at least a pawn) by more than one conspiracy buff.  Accusations have included pedophilia, child sexual programming, occult slavery, Freemasonry ties, blah blah blah.  Pretty much, the usual.  An interesting list of some of the weirder points appears in an earlier Disinfo article by 5by5.

One recurring accusation is that the Disney films and cartoons are riddled with subliminal messages of a sexual nature. Most likely, you’ve heard of them before. A dust cloud in The Lion King spells out the word, “sex.”  A phallus shows up on the cover of The Little Mermaid.  Aladdin says, “Teenagers take off your clothes.”  The list goes on a bit.

duck tales illuminatiOther than the sexual subliminals, there are also numerous “Illuminati symbols” supposedly hidden throughout the cartoons and the Disney theme parks, as well.  Most notably, the symbolism surrounding the infamous Club 33 at Disneyland (a members only club inside the park), and the cartoon, Gravity Falls.

Disney also plays a big part in the theories dealing with “Project Monarch,” an insidious plot said to be attached to the CIA’s MK-Ultra (the documented program experimenting in mind control).

The Monarch Program is a mind control method where a subject is systematically tortured and abused to induce dissociative personality disorder (used to be called multiple personality disorder), with the goal being the creation of a separate personality that can be programmed as a mind-controlled agent.  The victims were usually turned into sex slaves for the elite.  An entire symbol set became associated with the Monarch Program, including the eye in the triangle, the covering of one eye, Hello Kitty, butterflies, lightning bolts, and broken mirrors.  According to some researchers, when any of these symbols are seen in any context, they are actually coded triggers which will immediately switch on the alternate personalities of those who were subjected to the programming.  For some reason, Disney cartoons play a significant role in the programming, as does the Wizard of Oz, and Lady Gaga.

If one becomes deeply mired in studying the Monarch Program, they will begin to see evidence of it everywhere. Television celebrities begin to show signs of programmingGrammy performances become Illuminati rituals.  Children’s shows are exploding with hidden penises.

donald mathmagicThe only problem: the Monarch Program probably doesn’t exist.  It first shows up in Trance Formation of America (1995) by Cathy O’Brien, who claims to have been a victim of the program. Memories of her programming were retrieved through hypnosis, which, in my mind, place them in the “unprovable” category.  It should also be noted that her story of an abusive father, connected with a child pornography ring, recruiting her into the program as a sex slave is repeated time after time with little to no variance.  Almost all of these victims have “retrieved” these memories of abuse through hypnosis or other means, and considering their close resemblance to O’Brien’s story, I find it highly likely that they are either the result of suggestible minds, or cheap knockoffs made up by unimaginative hoaxers.

One of the main reasons I’m so interested in conspiracy theories is how well they demonstrate the filter theory of selective attention.  Our conscious mind can only juggle so many inputs at once, so we filter out the data that is unwanted.  This can be applied to entire worldviews, as we’ve seen with the Monarch Program.  When looking for proof of any theory, it will undoubtedly appear.

One way to illustrate this to yourself is to experiment with a magical technique described by William S. Burroughs called, “Walking on Color.”  Pick a color and take a walk in an area that is familiar to you, choosing to only allow objects of that color to draw your attention.  You will quickly find yourself noticing things you’ve never paid attention to before.  Those things were always there, but your consciousness was editing them out, because it deemed them unimportant.

mickey and minnie penisIt’s similar to what happens when we see an image in a Rorschach blot or a cloud formation.  We are very much projecting our own desires or fears onto the image.  What we see says more about us than about the subject itself.  Food for thought for those who see nothing but penises peeking out of every cartoon.

In light of this idea of selective attention, it’s surprising to me that not many mentions of Donald in Mathmagic Land show up among the Illuminati theories, as there is a detailed description of the pentagram (which is widely misinterpreted by conspiracy theorists following the Illuminati paradigm as a Satanic symbol), as well as a positive description of the Pythagorean cult.  You’d think that they would be all over this one.

Way to drop the ball, guys.

Frater Isla

Frater Isla also writes under the name Joshua Lee. He lives in Albuquerque, NM.For more of his work, visit .

72 Comments on "Donald Duck: High Priest of the Illuminati"

  1. Tchoutoye | Aug 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm |

    Walt Disney has been identified as a member of the Illuminati (or at least a pawn)

    How could he *not* have been? For the paranoid conspiracy theorist, that’s the entire global population covered right there.

    • Charlie Primero | Aug 9, 2013 at 2:46 pm |

      The Illuminati was long dead by the time Walt Disney was born. They were superseded by the Rosicrucians and Freemasons because those orgs did a better job of protecting free-thinkers from persecution by the Catholic Church.

      • King Of Bob | Aug 13, 2013 at 4:58 pm |

        Yeah, but the theorists(and I use that term in the loosest possible sense of the word) of today believe the Illuminati are still a thing and that they rule the world from behind the scenes. You can present them with all the facts in the world, but theorists will just call you names and suggest you’re just brainwashed.

        • Psimon Magus | Aug 15, 2013 at 10:03 am |

          Whereas those who would rather believe the world is a nice place, where nobody is duping you or treating you like cattle, have never worked for any of these companies. Myself, I worked for an animation company that answered to intelligence services.. so I see no reason why any of this should even be considered as ‘unlikely’.

          Ironically, it is the open mind that becomes aware of the wider possibilities in this world, not the ‘closed loop’ belief system that all ‘conspiracy theorists’ are themselves within a ‘closed loop’.

          ‘The Illuminati’ is generally used as a kind of catch all term, or shorthand, for the various individuals and corporations that govern this world.. they have all the guns, the technology, psychiatry and psychology at their disposal. Within intelligence services, PsyOps is referred to as ‘The Black Art’. Did you know that?

          The term ‘conspiracy theorist’, btw, originates with the C.I.A., and was first used to discredit those who doubted the official story of the Kennedy assassination. In England, they call that ‘irony’.

  2. If you actually want to learn about the Pythagorean Illuminati:

    • So are you into this,or just putting it out there as a found bit of insanity?

      • what makes you think it’s insanity? skip the first few posts and get into the later material when they actually talk about mathematical reality. obscure, sure, but insane? everyone is entitled to their own opinions of the truth and you are free to believe what you will, as we all are. i just think the material makes a very compelling case for the mathematical nature of reality, and a new (old) take on the actual organization of the “illuminati.”

        • Right, insanity was kinda strong. I didn’t mean to offend. I guess I was just asking about your perspective on the page.

    • Nirvanasteve | Aug 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm |

      Thanks for sharing this. I’ve only ever heard of people refer to the Illuminati (not the historical group but the straw man beloved by conspiracy theorists) in negative terms so its interesting to read a positive spin on it.

      • King Of Bob | Aug 13, 2013 at 5:00 pm |

        Indeed. These theorists keep pushing the idea that the “modern Illuminati” are actually the exact opposite of the original group. They went from being a group dedicated to knowledge to a group dedicated to ruling the world and suppressing knowledge.

  3. DeepCough | Aug 9, 2013 at 3:35 pm |

    Walt Disney was HUGE into the occult. Disneyland itself was built along geographic leylines.

  4. BuzzCoastin | Aug 9, 2013 at 6:01 pm |

    in order for the propaganda to work
    there must be an audience for insipid razzmatazz
    and willing dupes in the audience

  5. Hadrian999 | Aug 9, 2013 at 8:06 pm |

    I often wonder if disney isn’t actually responsible for the messed up knock-off disney character porn that is all over the internet………that I have heard about and have never actually seen

  6. The Well Dressed Man | Aug 9, 2013 at 9:18 pm |

    Cool. The Pythagoreans were actually quite the mystical order in their time.

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 9:13 pm |

      If I ever get an invite to take a whirl at Ong’s Hat, I’ll definitely go hang with that crew.

      • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 10, 2013 at 9:38 pm |

        Sketchy hints of a traveller org in the Santa Cruz mountains on this coast. Apparently I stumbled really close to their sycamore grove a couple times based on how quickly the locals mobilized to send me tripping back down the hill on exotic Shuglin-curated entheogens.

        Pretty sure these guys are on to something:

        Spruance is a goddam wizard if I’ve ever seen one. Catch the tour this fall!

  7. Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:50 am |

    “One of the main reasons I’m so interested in conspiracy theories is how well they demonstrate the filter theory of selective attention.
    Our conscious mind can only juggle so many inputs at once, so we filter
    out the data that is unwanted. This can be applied to entire
    worldviews, as we’ve seen with the Monarch Program. When looking for
    proof of any theory, it will undoubtedly appear.”

    Why is it that so many writers adopt this stance? Why are so few writers interested in sussing out actual conspiracies? I mean this POV is obviously seen as some type of academic objective high ground. It seems like writers either go full tilt and write about nothing but, or else they go the meta narrative route and focus only on the theorists themselves discounting any existence of conspiracies from the outset.

    So that’s interesting that nobody in power ever had an idea of using occult means to control others. But for some reason people keep imagining this.

    Apparently people in high places do scheme of employing occult means as mind control. Here is just a small example of a now imfamous internal memo

    This memo used to be available for free online. I look at it as similar to the “Operation North Woods” memo. It doesn’t “prove” 9/11 was an inside job nor does “Mind War” prove government Spooks employ occult mind control, but I think in light of these documents dismissing all conspiracies out of hand is totally unwarranted.

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 12:08 pm |

      The military has concept papers on everything. From alien invasions to coping w/ dastardly jungle rot. It’s someone’s job to lay down basic concepts on just about everything should a scenario arise. That by no means indicates that it was ever a part of any continuing planning/dev/ops.

      This article isn’t even about actual conspiracies or the investigative prowess needed to explore them. It’s about a mechanism that causes people to easily see conspiracies where they do not exist. It does’t have to be conspiracies. As the author points out, selective attention (which then cascades into sample bias, cluster illusions, massive projection resulting in pareidolia, and paranoia driven apophenia) is used to reinforce belief systems of all sorts.

      To derive from this piece that the author’s intent was to express ‘nobody in power ever had an idea of using occult means to control others’ is an existential fallacy.

      It would be an interesting question to consider (given the degree to which occult phenomenon are offered as the underlying force/motive for conspiracies perceived through selective attention*) that when someone in power has in fact had the notion of occult control, that they too are operating through biased thought mechanisms or mental deficit.

      *[and note that this extends far beyond the problems of thinking in normative individuals into fully pathological mechanisms on a far more striking scale]

      • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:10 pm |

        “This article isn’t even about actually conspiracies or the investigative
        prowess needed to explore them. It’s about a mechanism that causes
        people to easily see conspiracies where they do not exist. It does’t
        have to be conspiracies. As the author points out, selective attention
        (which then cascades into sample bias, cluster illusions, massive
        projection resulting in pareidolia, and paranoia driven apophenia) is
        used to reinforce belief systems of all sorts.”

        Is that concept new to you or something? So does the existence of weather balloons disprove the existence of Aliens?

        The logic here seems to be:
        “Since people are capable of seeing patterns where none exist through selective filtering of attention

        Therefore all conspiracy theories are bogus.”

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm |

          Back to existential fallacy.

          At this point for you, if not intentional, this extends into an ingrained cognitive bias. You regurgitate what others say, add a fallacious interpretation and project it onto the original content.

          Yes the logic seems to be that. It is yours and it is wrong.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm |

            You obviously aren’t interested in addressing my point. My point is that this type of filtering of experience and seeing patterns that aren’t there, exists, but hasn’t been shown to exhaustively remove all possibility of actual conspiracies and our ability to discern them.

            That this is the is the authors point is obvious in his use of language such as “Conspiracy theorists are dreadfully thorough..” looking at them as a single block and not examining the merits of ANY individual conspiracy theory. So he is essentially dismissing all conspiracy theories a priori.

        • Frater Isla | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:38 pm |

          “conspiracy theorists following the Illuminati paradigm”

          Cool. Just making sure I DID write that..

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:48 pm |

            not consistently. Actually only in one stand alone paragraph dealing with a particular interpretation of the pentagram. Your opening line paints all conspiracy theorists with a broad brush.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:51 pm |

            Ok, so feel free to explain why you don’t view all conspiracy theories and theorists with a single broad stroke (which you dismiss out of hand) and explain what if any conspiracy theories appear to you to have merit.

          • Frater Isla | Aug 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm |

            I guess I’m taking the reader’s ability to recognize what’s actually being discussed for granted. You’re kinda proving my point.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm |

            What’s “actually being discussed” is the same old “Why people believe conspiracy theories” trope. This trope consistently fails to address the most obvious reason.

          • Psimon Magus | Aug 15, 2013 at 9:44 am |

            Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.

            The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

            The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

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  8. Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 7:18 am |

    Here are some different views of the occult I see on the internet.
    1.Right Wing Christian Conspiracy Theorists:
    “The Occult is evil. People in High places are using Black Magic against us”

    2.Then there is a view that I see as being popularized by Disinformation, first the books and now others carrying the torch here on the website:
    “People in high places use occult means to control us. This is pretty much a given. So here is how we can make these occult practices DIY and take back power and even the playing field.” These articles then basically outline DIY occult expiriments people are invited to try.

    The second view is what I see as the impetus for a lot of writers featured on Disinfo over the yeas. The first view is kind of like the view popularized by Alex Jones, he has secularized it a bit, however.

    I discern a third view from time to time and I can’t quite figure out the motivation behind it. The motivation appears to be deliberately concealed. Its the view that basically says number 1. is complete bullshit. Its unlike the number 2 view which basically says the right wings Christians are half right.

    The number 3 view appears to be frank propaganda for occultists in high places. Its so negative it contradicts itself.

    Its all like “no. nobody in high places uses occult means to control people. People just imagine this. The occult isn’t evil anyway.”

    It kind of begs the question. “do these methods work?” If so why wouldn’t these means be employed by people in power?”

    • Rhoid Rager | Aug 10, 2013 at 10:13 am |

      I read your post twice, and I’m still not following you, man. Can you state all that again but in clearer terms? Are you saying viewing occult as bullshit, or not bullshit is not the point, but what matters is that it might just work?

      Also, ‘begs the question’ is a logical fallacy that refers back to the assumption of an argument as its justifying recourse–i.e. circular reasoning. But, that’s just being all nit-picky of me.

      • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:15 pm |

        There are people in high places in possession of occult knowledge of techniques used to control the masses.

        This isn’t out in the open. Therefore its a conspiracy.

        Some theories about this fact might be good, some might be bad. What possible motivation is there for dismissing them all a priori?

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:39 pm |

          If we know about it, how is it not out in the open?
          In fact one of the hallmarks of occult activity according to some views is the ‘hidden in plain site’ model.
          A lack of mainstream belief in these ideas does nothing to correlate their validity.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm |

            WTF are you talking about? I feel as though you are simply contradicting everything I say with out presenting any counter arguments.

            So feel free to disagree with anything you want. I have nothing to add. There is no longer a debate here as far as I am concerned. Its obvious there are conspiracies and the level of analysis of them varies. So far no proof has been offered that warrants dismissing them all out of hand.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm |

            NOBODY has dismissed them all out of hand.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:56 pm |

            Why would you not dismiss them all out of hand? Are you some superstitious whack job or something? So tell me all about your looney conspiracy theories. I am listening.

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 7:26 pm |

            I am seeing a process far different than listening occuring.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 7:48 pm |

            Oh, boo hoo!

          • Rhoid Rager | Aug 10, 2013 at 9:21 pm |

            Did you have a bad day today or something?

      • ManwithnoCountry | Aug 11, 2013 at 9:28 pm |

        I think ted just confused begging the question with raising it.

    • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm |

      Do you consider the materialist view that occultism is merely superstition to be part of view 3?

      • Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 6:51 pm |

        That’s one possibility. But what of writers who obviously don’t believe that?

    • Adam's Shadow | Aug 10, 2013 at 3:19 pm |

      Excellent comment – I agree wholeheartedly. The only difference I have with your analysis is that some elites or “people in high places” may not really be using occult or magickal practices per se, but that their methods are more along the lines of generalized “self-help” techniques or Machiavellian manipulation. Obviously, there can be a lot of crossover between occult practices (which I personally see as a kind of “spiritual boot-camp” or “guerrilla spirituality”) and self-actualization and psychology, especially cognitive psychology, but I don’t think many elites necessarily identify their manipulation and self-improvement (which for the rich and powerful usually means gaining more riches and power) as “occult.”

      • Adam's Shadow | Aug 10, 2013 at 3:21 pm |

        Also, I like “quotes.” “Quotes” are fun.

        • Psimon Magus | Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 am |

          Nuero-Linguistic Programming might itself be considered a form of occult manipulation. Most of those prominent within US and UK occultism, holding grades in orders such as the Temple of Set, O.T.O., and the rather dubious I.O.T., are trained in it.

          • Adam's Shadow | Aug 15, 2013 at 7:58 pm |

            Good eye – it does seem to be a common thread in both circles; I know Pope Bob wrote fairly extensively about it. Also, ever heard of, listened to, or read Phil Farber? He uses NLP and hypnosis techniques A LOT.

    • As for #2, I recommend reading Peter Levenda.

      His position as I understand it is, that the psychological conditioning techniques used by occultists work to create belief systems, while they are intended for self-programming (RAW discusses this aspect well), that they can be used by elites to mentally program others and Levenda says they are in fact used for that purpose.

      Unholy Alliance is a good place to start with Levenda’s books.

      • Ted Heistman | Aug 11, 2013 at 6:51 am |

        I think you have recommended these to me twice, now. I will have to check them out.

    • tibby trillz | Aug 11, 2013 at 11:16 am |

      my theory is that mens organizations become networking groups (is there any other good reason to join a frat?) and it fosters loose collusion that can be seen as a lot more sinister than it actually is. the reality of it is hokey and lame (maybe even a little homoerotic) which is probably why they keep it a secret in the first place. also, all negative effects of power can be ascribed to incompetance, and greed. not really as much fun as thinking that aliens in league with satan and reptilian jews control the planet, so that explains why alot of people go for the david icke type scenarios over the more realistic ones.

  9. Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 1:58 pm |

    Is this person an historical person or simply a figment of my (overactive) imagination?

    If he is indeed an historical person why would it be unwise to conclude that there have been others in the past who shared his basic paradigm and methods of controlling the masses? What reason do I or anyone have to believe that this doesn’t go on today with increasing sophistication?

    Power has only become more concentrated since Bernays day.

    • Calypso_1 | Aug 10, 2013 at 10:53 pm |

      Bernays’ methodologies are an excellent example of social control. He published & lectured widely and has been extensively studied. How does this relate to the perception of conspiracies or possible occult practices within centers of power? It is not unwise to conclude that power is manipulative and refines its methods.
      It is wise to examine the mechanisms by which we perceive the world around us. Matters such as these where the opportunity for true discovery and agency are limited demand the refinement of our own methodologies beyond the limits of more primitive cognitive/emotional processes.
      If one prominent mechanism that drives our perception is also a pathway to distorted thought and fear or paranoia we open ourselves to ascribing a degree of refinement and power that the adversary need never possess.

      • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 am |

        I would hazard to label propaganda as THE occult art of our time. Did you see Gaga’s latest? Waiting to hear the reaction from the conspiracy blogs on this: (NSFW)

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 11, 2013 at 1:28 am |

          …now of course I am compelled to make a thorough tour of all my occult circuits. Damn you! shouldn’t have stepped out of the magic circle to take my meds.

          I really was satisfied with the default nekid 70’s Satan chick autocosm the Dark Lord let’s us chill in. Sell your soul to the Devil just once and your stuck w/ auto updates that can take weeks.
          Always Dog Days & He always sends a Camel Cricket to remind me.

      • Ted Heistman | Aug 11, 2013 at 6:54 am |

        I’ll notify you when you tell me something I don’t already know.

        • Calypso_1 | Aug 11, 2013 at 2:13 pm |

          Thank you for providing a continuing example of the dynamic that this article is addressing.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 11, 2013 at 2:35 pm |

            Um, yeah… This concept is just too much for me, thus I am caught in it with no way to get out! Oh no! And here is Calypso generously holding enlightenment in his benevolent hand and I am just too persnickety to accept it! The horrors!

          • Calypso_1 | Aug 11, 2013 at 3:05 pm |

            I have no desire for your enlightenment.

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm |

            Ok, thanks.

          • Rhoid Rager | Aug 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm |

            You shouldn’t let him get under your skin. But who am I to speak?

          • Ted Heistman | Aug 12, 2013 at 6:44 am |

            He’s not under my skin he just tends to drone on and on in a pedantic way about shit I already know.

            To be Frank, I think the site Frater Isla linked to is pretty stupid, with all the disney cocks. The Lion King is really a picture of a midget woman with a big fat ass? Really? If anyone were to check back I was pretty skeptical of the guy who wrote an article on here from that perspective. And I think there is something to what Isla is saying that its people seeing what they are predisposed to see, a type of confirmation bias. That is really common in certain conspiracy circles.

            But and this is a big But, there is some shady nefarious stuff going on at Disney and in most other large organizations and it makes people uneasy. This uneasiness is not bullshit. And it gives plausibility to various half baked conspiracy theories in peoples minds. Its like people believing Al Gore said he invented the internet. Its not true, but people believe it because Al Gore is such a self righteous asshole and full of himself.

            Its like South Park portraying Mickey mouse as a ruthless tyrant kicking the shit out of people. It was funny because it resonates with people.

  10. Ted Heistman | Aug 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm |

    “Illuminati” conspiracy theory, is for the most part sloppy and unsophisticated, with poor or basically no scholarship. Its purveyors are sensationalistic at best. But as far as average people becoming aware that they are getting fucked in the ass by a shadowy cabal of elites, weather or not they can voice that in a scholarly intellectually rigorous way, is besides the point. Its basically true.

    That there are some EXTREMELY well connected people on the planet working in concert toward common ends( ends which are at odds the the vast majority of humanity) IS A FACT.

  11. THEUNSEENofNOTISH | Aug 10, 2013 at 4:01 pm |

    Odd, the fact that there are not subliminal, but blatant sex jokes in Disney Illustrations get labeled a “conspiracy theory” when I always treated more as an Artists joke against conservative cultural attitudes toward sex and body shame prevalent until I’d say this most recent generation. Attaching small movements (Disney Artists) to larger conspiracies really undermine the humor and liberating purpose of what those artists were doing. I call it “Fight Clubbing” artists, turning things like this into some violent revolution as opposed to a middle school middle finger to conservative moralists.

    Also, the whole idea that people dont get abused and psychologically through psychedelics show your own safety in those situations and undermines that these do happen to poor and disenfranchised people all over (drugging and kidnapping into sexual slavery and pedophilia). As someone who did recently attend the wrong social gathering where he bought psychedelics and people did things to him a la Kevin Spacey’s character in the Men Who Stare at Goats and found himself suddenly, as a straight man, solicited, encouraged and threatened by many to take up male prostitution. These werent the “hypnosis recovered memories” that every person who has lived a safe life, or participates in such games, pretends are the only evidence such things happen. Its pretty sick, if you ask me, that it always gets brought up as a conspiracy theory when its widely reported, with public reporting when rings are busted and when there are also many government and independent non-profit organizations to help protect and free people from such lives, which they were often brought into by such “Project Monarch” means, to describe a known technique and not an official program. It sucks when legitimately deranged individuals are given media space to Jerry Springer real abuse, rape and torture in the world, as seems to be the case with that woman and a few others I’ve seen on youtube in later stages in life especially (post 40?). They seem to work more to discredit and hide real victims, whether they work alone or for someone, as thats the ACTUAL effect it has.

    • atlanticus | Aug 11, 2013 at 3:54 pm |

      I’ve often thought it was strange that the line of reasoning goes that way, especially in the case of child actors. It’s a well-known fact that some of these kids are taken advantage of at various points in their careers, but because of this meta-narrative of a secret cult being responsible, the real abuse is swept under this rug so that if one rejects the possibility of the Illuminati’s existence, they may also doubt the abuse of child actors altogether…it’s as if some people truly cannot believe that these things sometimes happen, cult-or-no-cult.

      I wonder if the sort of people who believe that a cult is responsible for child abuse *actually* can not believe that child abuse could occur for any other reason. It’s like a filter to shield the ignorant from the possibility that they live in a much darker world than they previously thought. It’s much easier to absorb this information if you can name the Boogie Man.

      • Psimon Magus | Aug 15, 2013 at 9:50 am |

        OK, I’ll answer. Child abusers can appear anywhere. It is not unusual for them to infiltrate cults or minority groups, as Police and authorities are already prejudiced against believing anything such ‘loonies’ would say.

        Pedophiles can often form cults of their own; as has been shown in the U.K. by the prosecutions of Colin Batley and others. Something of which I am quite sure you are very aware of indeed.

        Most low level occultists do not want to believe there might be high level societies to which they are not party. Such would mean they could no longer pat themselves on the back and pretend to be any kind of ‘spiritual elite’.

  12. THEUNSEENofNOTISH | Aug 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm |

    And the whole Project Monarch thing, when its real and done to someone can easily and quickly be reversed when the victim is removed from pimps’ sphere of influence and given tools and support to help them feel safe. The MPD goes away, but after something like that, the awareness of being a slave inside criminal organizations makes someone “paranoid” as the lifelong coddled call them, or “situationally aware” as most with such experiences and are honest would call it, such as Military Veterans, to use an air-tight example of the kind of world awareness these victims come out with.

  13. Nirvanasteve | Aug 10, 2013 at 5:44 pm |

    I found this video to be fraught with interesting ideas and concepts. I am amazed by how many times I’ve read about the meaning of the pentagram without coming across the mathematical interpretation of it as containing the ‘golden ratio.’ And just today, I couldn’t help but notice all the various flowers I passed by that had the star pattern within them. Selective attention indeed!

    I can see why some conspiracy theorists would be alarmed by the movie, as the whole thing is set up a bit like an initiation into one of the ancient mysteries (takes place in a cave, initiate is guided by a voice, secrets of reality are revealed and previous erroneous concepts are removed). I imagine that one of the principle contributors to it was probably a mason or at least well educated in such things. After all, it is what the followers of Pythagoras would have had to have gone through to learn these things. I think it’s neat. It would be much easier to understand the import of such revolutionary ideas when they have a ritual attached to them.

  14. sick evil !!!!!!

  15. So by this cartoon I am to conclude that the Illuminati are a bunch of “egg-head” interpretive jazz beatniks?

  16. Psimon Magus | Aug 15, 2013 at 9:34 am |

    Re; Project Monarch. How ironic that this post should appear on a site called ‘Disinformation’.

    According to ‘Trance-Formation of America’, Cathy O’Brien’s memories were NOT recovered through hypnosis. They arose over time through the natural recovery from trauma, which causes dissociation and ‘memory blackout’. This trauma is like an imprint in N.L.P., and fades over time.

    Others have indeed come forward with similar tales; stories that corroborate the guilt of certain individuals such as Michael Aquino; for example David Shurter’s ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’. These stories do not ‘copy’ one another. Having exchanged many emails with David Shurter, I can tell you he is an individual of impressive intelligence, and extremely obstinate and difficult to ‘influence’. Furthermore, he practices magick, and expresses an advanced Gnostic personal theology. Check out his blogs at davidshurter dot com.

    Readers should be aware that ‘false memory syndrome’ is a theory created by psychiatrists who are linked to pedophilia. The idea propounded is itself a conspiracy theory of absurd proportions; that therapists all around the world are ‘implanting’ memories of ritual abuse. Amongst the main proselytizers of this theory is Doug Mesner- the Satanist. Think about it.

    Absurd conspiracy theories like this are intentionally damaging, and part of a cover up. They are regularly accepted as incontestable by those who would rather not believe the truth- and who could easily accept that this kind of thing is really going on, and at such a scale?

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