The Expansionary Occult Agenda That No One Talks About

Intronaut2At this point we should all know that the word Occult is derived from the word occluded and is often interpreted as the search for “knowledge of the hidden”. By that definition, I’ve often pointed out that the most obviously hidden aspect of our society is that we don’t talk about what we’re up to exactly pretty much ever. If you came up to a person on the street and asked them the meaning of life, I’d say the likelihood they’d reply: “to blindly churn out as many humans as possible through reckless fucking and build as much new weird stuff as quickly as we can” would be fairly slim. I guess the reason for that would have to do with the fact that it sounds utterly insane when you say it out loud, which is precisely why we don’t do it. And yet, it is the supreme goal nearly all of us spend a great deal of our time contributing to every single day. Every day you get up and punch that clock, you’re helping feed the chaotic sprawl of freakish expanding psychosis that we call human reality. We’re continually on auto pilot.

This is the problem with looking outward rather than inward for spiritual insight. You might find yourself guided by “something else”. Years back I had what I refer to as my enlightenment experience after watching the film The Holy Mountain by Alejandro Jodorowsky. There’s some sort of cosmic trigger embedded in the very framework of that dude’s films which have jarred me into compelling contact dreams nearly every time I’ve watched them. In this one, I’m on a higher plane of reality and all of our conjoined plotlines are being churned out with zero regard to consequence by what I can best describe of as a 5th dimensional thought factory. Without getting into too many of the lurid details, I will say that the whole encounter left me with the distinct impression that the forces creating our world are going for pure batshit novelty, and novelty comes with volume. Not only that, but this dark quest for novelty is why we see the themes of increasing exploitation in our society. As above, so below. They’re artists, and we are but the means by which they make their art. They don’t care about us in the way we’d love to think they do. Why do bad things happen to good people? Because sometimes it’s hilarious, and how do you know those people weren’t actually assholes? See how easy that was.

You can’t understand things like dreams and hallucinatory transmissions by reducing them to binary thought modalities. They communicate by means of subjective metaphor which is why we don’t talk about our inner worlds publicly (except I do on Facebook constantly, friend me). Dreams don’t fit our agenda, our expansionary agenda. Say it out loud. Our expansionary agenda. It’s like we’re trying to mimic the big bang or bounding upward into the gangliest teenage growth spurt imaginable. Have we been packing on some excess lbs before graduation? Are we going to fit into our prom dress?

Having odd hallucinatory encounters like the aforementioned leads you into a whole slew of new and unusual contemplations. I suppose that’s the point to invoking them in the first place. I’ll never forget the public response to the economic meltdown in 2008. We’ve got to get things back up and moving again. We need new jobs, new economic growth. Over and over ad infinitum. Everybody blindly agrees without a single person saying: wait, maybe this is a sign. Maybe we should take this as a message that we need to rethink our priorities as a species. Buuuuut, we can’t do that. Why? Because we don’t talk about this project we all work on so diligently.

You can say the point is to make rich people richer, but that’s not capturing the true essence of the conundrum entirely. Granted, rich people being ginormous dickholes is a huge part of the problem impeding our further development as a species, but it’s not like the poor and middle class are somehow spiritually elevated creatures. As a matter of fact, (and get ready for me to piss absolutely everyone off) the poorest people with the least resources often have the most children. It’s a fact of life that even my most liberal of left wing Seattle friends cringe when you dare to acknowledge. This is how rich people get rich, by exploiting that cycle, but did they start that cycle in motion or did it come from somewhere else? Who would want to proliferate all that suffering? Daemonic fuckers preying on humanity, that’s who. It’s not that they’re evil, they just like horror stories. They like a lot of other shit too, like professional basketball and Grand Theft Auto. They see the “cycle of lives” we live (and yes I’m quoting the voices from my trance states) and how they’re interrelated.

Here’s a thought, if you want to protest wealth inequality, quit having kids you can’t afford. The system of increasingly devalued labor we’re trapped in is entirely dependent on an endless supply of wage slaves lining up to be devalued. What if you cut off the supply at the source? You’ve made it so bad for us, we don’t even want to bring any kids into this hell you’re feeding from. That’s fucking rebellion. Seems like an unreasonable sacrifice to most but some people had to fight in wars and blow other people’s heads off to change our world for the better. A concerted effort to not procreate for a generation seems like a minor concession in comparison. The powers that be would lose their shit and it would absolutely work. Rather than a hunger strike, a birth rate strike. I’ll file it in the never, ever going to fucking happen category. Totally unthinkable.

Why? Because of our agenda. Don’t you feel it, inside you, compelling you in ways you don’t even understand? If I wanted the population to absolutely sky rocket as fast as possible, the first thing I’d do is take control of organized religion from afar. If you can keep people away from sexual expression and transpersonal mindgasm enlightenment, you can get them to spit out kids like weeds from sheer boredom alone. Let me cut the bullshit and sum up the underlying message behind the majority of conservative religions: don’t do drugs and when you fuck, have as many kids as possible. It’s just good business, gotta fill those pews. Billionaire assholes will further bind themselves into those crap roles by making horrifically awful karmic decisions that affect them irreparably, damning themselves to reincarnate as the very people they’re preying on. We’re writing a tragic-comedy with our genetic code, and the thought of taking better control of this process is absolutely the most controversial and off limits area of intellectual inquiry imaginable to us. Nuts.

And that’s the problem with turning your back on things like the Occult. When you do, they have a tendency of turning on you. So we now find ourselves oppressed by a daemonic hyper-growth serum unconsciously. You know what I hate the most about it? What it’s done to conversation. “How are you doing today?” “I’m fine.” “How about that sports team or the weather.” “Yes, the sports teams and the weather, those are excellent”. “Have another beer or fatty food.” Here are some basic things you should never bring up in casual work or family discourse: religion, politics, dreams, drugs, sex, alternative spirituality, meditation, or any kind of subversive art (which is why I enjoy things like Twitter, where you can follow me). Why? The agenda. Broaching these topics can potentially halt the common flow of basic expansionary business practices. Goes against everything we believe in.

But why do we believe in these things? At the heart of nearly every godhead spiritual encounter is the message that you are judged by the way your actions inspire others. I had a vision like that myself accidentally once. The reason we hate this logic so has to do with the fact that we find our daily behavior in direct opposition to it. Well, if that’s on point, then we’re totally fucked, I mean, we spend all of our time encouraging people to have tons of kids and building more and more useless shit. That’s what the purpose is in life right? Nope, just the way you’ve been programmed, and I don’t think you’d like who’s doing the programming. They’re creating ideas. Once an idea makes its way into the collective unconscious, it exists eternally. Once you create something as ridiculous as twerking, it’s always there. See, I’m thinking about twerking right now. I just pictured myself twerking on a Segueway with a witch with flaming pubic hair. Good witchy flaming pube times. I could dream about something that ridiculous in the non physical realms. It’s entirely possible, everything is. We make these ideas, and they can swoop in and grab anything they want, or edit out anything they don’t. The question is, do we identify this unconscious compulsion and find a way to make “earth as it is in heaven” or do we keep churning out more product to meet the quotas of our psychotic overseers? Remember when I said these things were metaphorical? As above, so below.

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Thad McKraken

Thad McKraken

Thad McKraken is a psychedelic writer, musician, visual artist, filmmaker, Occultist, and pug enthusiast based out of Seattle. He is the author of the books The Galactic Dialogue: Occult Initiations and Transmissions From Outside of Time, both of which can be picked up on Amazon super cheap.
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81 Comments on "The Expansionary Occult Agenda That No One Talks About"

  1. “As a matter of fact, (and get ready for me to piss absolutely everyone off) the poorest people with the least resources often have the most children.”
    Didn’t piss me off at all. It’s totally true. In fact, I knew this when I started working as a Spanish language interpreter for the criminal courts, but dude, let me tell you, having an idea about something and experiencing it first hand are two very different things. I was totally floored and not quite prepared for what I encountered. When you have illiterate men making minimum wage or less pumping out multiple children with two or three different women, it tends to color your perceptions. I’m not saying every poor migrant worker is doing this, but in general, they do tend to have, what I consider highly irresponsible breeding habits that just serve to add human fodder to a brutal system.
    I am very glad I decided to never have children. It just looked like a really bad deal to me for all the reasons you mentioned.
    Great piece:)

    • Craig Bickford | Aug 27, 2013 at 5:00 pm |

      I have to agree, as long as their are no racist overtones to anyone’s comments concerning the poor and breeding. But of course now that I say this I see how impossible it is to escape the Politically Correct police with this one, and someone will twist this concept out of proportion no matter how good the intentions are concerning a social commentary. I too have no children, for a number of reasons, one of which is not contributing to the ever expanding shit hole of humanity that looks to have no plans of stopping it’s march into endless chaos (the bad kind) and misery. I am almost at the point now where I am agreeing with the central premise and thesis of the show Utopia, that we need to sterilize the planet if we are to survive. Almost…

    • tibby trillz | Aug 27, 2013 at 6:42 pm |

      how great would the world be if there was only a million people? wed finally have time to catch up on the endless amount of music seemingly everybody and their mother produced over the past decade and houses would be free! i think its strange how the indicator for a healthy economy is in new construction. its like we have to continually rape the earth of resources and incessantly build just to keep this gravy train on the tracks.

      • …but…but… Agenda 21!
        (sorry… sarcasm off)!
        Yeah, thee human depopulation/zero growth movement has “some” pretty sketchy elements to it (have heard “hearsay” that one prominent author in said movement was thee doctor responsible for coerced sterilization in Puerto Rico in first half of 20th century??)… but it’s been something I’ve been interested in for quite some time…

        Of course it also has these fine folx (including early Vermin Supreme) supporting it (don’t forget to check thee family album for some hilarious abortion clinic counter-protests):

        OH… that video on thee front page is definitely NSFW…. tho it is pretty awesome.

        • tibby trillz | Aug 29, 2013 at 3:47 pm |

          yeh i guess im hoping more for a really nice polite depopulation where people realize that staying up all night doing blow and drinking is much more fun than having kids.

        • kowalityjesus | Aug 30, 2013 at 11:22 am |

          Though the reputation for eugenics was destroyed by the Nazis, some prominent people, like Tesla and Lindbergh were pro-eugenics in some form or another. I know my uncle always calls anything about eugenics “a horse-breeding program,” but are we paying for the fact that we haven’t tried at all to corral the genetic pathway of humanity?

          • johnsawyer | Aug 30, 2013 at 5:42 pm |

            While there’s something to be said for improving humanity’s genetics, the eugenics movement prior to the Nazis already had tons of elements that made it hugely disreputable, in spite of its being favored by otherwise intelligent people like Tesla and Lindbergh. Lindbergh was no prize in any case, with various fascist ideas.

          • kowalityjesus | Aug 31, 2013 at 12:17 am |

            In fact the Californians were an inspiration to the Nazis. But who could argue with Californians? Pioneers, Oh pioneers!

          • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 2:27 am |

            California Uber Alles… Jerry Brown is back, and Jello Biafra still hangs out at punk shows

          • kowalityjesus | Aug 31, 2013 at 12:14 pm |


          • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 3:22 pm |

            Yes and no. But that may be beside the point. The new eugenics may be the transhuman vector. Those with the access to genetic testing and potential modification may confer an “unfair” advantage upon their offspring.

      • kowalityjesus | Aug 29, 2013 at 12:45 am |

        Industrial development doesn’t have to be destructive, look at Germany. Massive productivity and first-rate environmental record.

        New construction of housing is largely perpetuated by racism, at least in Detroit… Urban blacks move to the inner suburbs, most surrounding whites move to outer suburbs spurring a massive resource waste. The voluntary segregationist sentiment is so consistent in middle America that the real estate industry banks on it.

        • tibby trillz | Aug 29, 2013 at 3:43 pm |

          nope, its true just about everywhere. i have lived in dutchess county new york for most of my life. my father bought his house there for 40 grand in 79, it was worth 400 grand during the boom ( you can blame that on banks as well as white flight id imagine). why did it go up so much in value? because its an hour drive from nyc (well, 45 minutes to the bronx). westchester got filled up, and the real estate market here went up and up and up. now its kind of the opposite going on though (sorta, but this time, the whole area pays the price). people are filling up the buroughs and making their real estate market go through the roof. my sister in law bought a condo in williamsburgh in like 2002 for 250, and she just sold it for 500 and its fucking tiny. maybe 400 square feet total. people are moving out of the city now not because of crime, but because of how insanely expensive the housing market is and its still driving the prices up everywhere. im planning on moving to the middle of nowhere pennsylvania at some point because a studio apartment will run you 800 a month here.

          • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 2:25 am |

            could be worse. shitty studios in san francisco are 2 grand if you’re lucky

        • Ted Heistman | Aug 30, 2013 at 6:00 pm |

          Germany has completely tamed its landscape. Its mostly Spruce plantations.

    • BuzzCoastin | Aug 27, 2013 at 8:13 pm |

      As a matter of fact, (and get ready for me to piss absolutely everyone
      off) the poorest people with the least resources often have the most

      gee, why is that?
      because most of those people need to rely on children
      to help support the family
      this is due to that fact that phat katz prey on the poor
      and live off the flesh of needy children

      • Yes, that is certainly true in less developed countries. But in the US it doesn’t make any sense at all. All it does is bring people into this world who will suffer poverty, stress and the depredations of the very “phat katz” you mentioned.
        I also agree that if people wanna live less stressful lives they should stop buying a buncha shite they don’t need and have to go into debt to acquire, thereby feeding an insane system and enslaving themselves in the process.

        • BuzzCoastin | Aug 27, 2013 at 9:39 pm |

          I know a guy with 5 kids on welfare
          does better than he would if he had a job
          not saying it’s true everywhere
          but it’s true in aMerka

  2. Kane VonDoom | Aug 27, 2013 at 4:56 pm |

    Funny. I’ve been having eerily (awesomely) similar conversations with people I never would have thought would be on the level in that regard over the past few days. Been noticing a bunch of synchronicities Good stuff as per usual, Thad!

  3. Nirvanasteve | Aug 27, 2013 at 5:24 pm |

    Great article as always, Thad. Me, I plan on only having one kid, but mostly so upon death I can transfer my soul to its body ala ‘The Thing on the Doorstep’ and live an endless succession of lives down down my own genetic chain. Viva la immortality!

  4. Here’s a thought, if you want to protest wealth inequality, quit having
    kids you can’t afford. The system of increasingly devalued labor we’re
    trapped in is entirely dependent on an endless supply of wage slaves
    lining up to be devalued. What if you cut off the supply at the source?
    You’ve made it so bad for us, we don’t even want to bring any kids into
    this hell you’re feeding from. That’s fucking rebellion. Seems like an
    unreasonable sacrifice to most but some people had to fight in wars and
    blow other people’s heads off to change our world for the better. A
    concerted effort to not procreate for a generation seems like a minor
    concession in comparison. The powers that be would lose their shit and
    it would absolutely work. Rather than a hunger strike, a birth rate
    strike. I’ll file it in the never, ever going to fucking happen
    category. Totally unthinkable

    Unless you watch Cuarón’s Children of Men. Then it becomes totally plausible that Nature will find a way to sterilize us for the benefit of the planet.

    • One reason to consider voluntarily limiting population growth is that many such scenarios involve LOTS of suffering in massive die offs. Limiting growth would limit suffering…
      This idea might have come to me via Derrick Jensen’s End Game…
      But I actually think it’s from Daniel Quinn’s Ishmael.

      • The operative word being ‘voluntarily.’ Because forced birth-control has never worked, and it probably never will.

        • ummm… I’m an anarchist… I’d never believe in such coercion…
          I actually mentioned in an earlier post (has a link, so waiting for approval) that zero growth population has some unsavory hanger’s-on who do seem to support such coercion… but that doesn’t negate thee idea (only taints it a bit) I certainly consider those folx beyond wacky…

      • You say that like suffering is a bad thing.

        • 🙂
          but I guess it Seems to ME that suffering on thee scale that such a reduction might produce wouldn’t really help folx personal evolution/transformation all that much… or at least I’d call it diminishing returns in terms of amount of suffering to amount of personal growth…
          Guess I’m not really a fan of suffering for its own sake… least not consciously… still trying to purge any vestiges of martyr complex/christian culture from myself…

  5. CabezaBorradora | Aug 27, 2013 at 6:18 pm |

    That’s the point… we are all responsible of feeding the machine. It’s incredible the fact that not all the people are completely aware of this.

  6. BuzzCoastin | Aug 27, 2013 at 7:37 pm |

    > Here’s a thought, if you want to protest wealth inequality,
    quit having kids you can’t afford.

    Here’s a thought, if you want to protest wealth inequity:

    quit buying weapons you can’t afford & don’t need
    and distribute the excess largess to Wee the Sheeple

    quit buying consumer goods you can’t afford & don’t need
    and stop being poor

    quit pretending to elect wealthy scumbags as legislators
    that you don’t need and can’t afford
    and take back the power you were endowed with a birth

    • Rus Archer | Aug 28, 2013 at 2:25 pm |

      pretty sure no one has elected anyone for quite a while
      that’s just another reality show

      • BuzzCoastin | Aug 28, 2013 at 3:29 pm |

        my point exactly
        let’s quit pretending there are elections
        and take back personal human power

        • These are good points BuzzCoastin… but having kids (and spending thee energy necessary to even attempt to raise them somewhat well) takes away from all of your suggestions. Many folx Stop being politically active as soon as they have kids… and start buying lots of stuff.

          • BuzzCoastin | Aug 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm |

            let’s deal with welfare for the rich first
            like no taxes & lots of subsidies

            when Uncle Homeland
            stops spending 110% of his tax revenue on weapons
            and thereby paying welfare to the Carlyle Group/MIBC
            we wouldn’t have to deal with
            the welfare for poor people issue

          • kowalityjesus | Aug 29, 2013 at 12:51 am |

            The MIBC is such an infamous conspiracy that it sounds more like massive multi-institutional incompetence. Its obvious why Ron Paul, by far the most informed and qualified candidate for 2012 presidency, got smacked down so hard in the primaries.

          • BuzzCoastin | Aug 29, 2013 at 1:16 am |

            it’s a grab for power among competing MIBC elites
            the fallout looks like a conspiracy
            and it’s wee who conspire with them
            to maintain the status quo

  7. Richard Frith | Aug 27, 2013 at 8:00 pm |

    I do not follow the logic of many of the posters here. So the plan is to only have the poor, uneducated, and oblivious breed slaves for a sociopathic upper class? Why not populate the world with educated and aware individuals?

    • Rus Archer | Aug 28, 2013 at 2:27 pm |

      impregnate poor women who have poor husbands
      heal the gene pool

      • johnsawyer | Aug 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm |

        You’d need to first have an accurate way to determine whether being poor automatically is caused by having poor genes. My guess is that it’s not much of a factor for most, and that instead most poor people get that way due to a system that creates them.

    • Pretty sure thee idea is to fight against thee culture of breeding in general.

      but yeah, elitism is a great reason to perpetuate this cycle.

      • I’m sorry if I made a bad assumption on my reply…

        maybe you meant that instead of spending time, energy and resources bringing more kids into this world and raising them… we could pool resources and concentrate on educating and making aware, thee children already here.

        • Richard Frith | Aug 29, 2013 at 12:55 pm |

          I was just commenting on how I see a lot of bright, thoughtful people here refusing to have children on principle. That’s obviously their prerogative and I respect that. It just seems to me that if more people capable of raising relatively healthy-minded, responsible, educated, empathic and/or intelligent children did so, it would assist in improving things. I’m not talking about breeding wiily nilly just to breed, but making a responsible choice if one is capable and willing. Otherwise, I just see the gap between the ignorant and those that prey on ignorance growing. Also, as you said, educating those children that are already here would undoubtedly be ideal as well.The real challenge is to find a way to do less preaching to the converted and subvert the status quo mentality. Otherwise, it’s just the same old counter-cultural circle jerk.

          • or what if said people just adopted a kid or two at a young age and molded them into a child that is educated, empathic, etc. thereby helping the cause while still not contributing to overpopulation

          • Eva Rinaldi | Mar 18, 2014 at 10:02 am |

            You don’t need to breed to help children, though.
            My fifth grade teacher was incapable of having children, and she made a difference in the life of hundreds of kids.

    • Eva Rinaldi | Sep 4, 2013 at 10:39 pm |

      Just… because no one seems to have quite gotten it on this page- You can absolutely be poor and also be intelligent, well educated (if you count being well-read and having high critical thinking skills rather than just having a piece of paper from a government run school that says that you paid several years worth of wages to sit and listen to other people tell you how to read books for 4+ years) and empathetic. In fact, I’ve met many wealthy people who primarily know how to do one thing really well and don’t care if it hurts other people that they do it, or generally about anything other than how much money they can make doing whatever it is they do.

      And new evidence strongly suggests that the average person is smarter than we give them credit for- it’s just that our method of educating young people sucks. And of course it’s possible to help teach young people things that will help them grow up to be better people without actually sharing their DNA.

      • Richard Frith | Sep 5, 2013 at 2:17 pm |

        I agree completely. Intelligence and knowledge are not synonymous. Access to information, desire to grow, life experience, and discernment can go a long way.

        You’re right about how our children are taught. My wife is a teacher and I get to hear of the horrors of the American public education system. I hear of the out-of-touch, weary administrators, the entitled parents and the entitled children who think they should just be handed passing grades for showing up without doing any work, the inflated importance of standardized testing, the insufficient resources and staff for special needs children, etc. My wife does what she can to mitigate the negative effects and places emphasis on teaching the children how to learn and think for themselves in lieu of rote memorization and recitation of facts that will be forgotten a month later or sooner. This is, unfortunately, an exception to the norm and does very little to offset the materialistic wet dreams our children are fed.

        But yes, any adult, anywhere, in any interaction with a child could potentially be influential in a positive way.

  8. Charlie Primero | Aug 27, 2013 at 8:53 pm |

    Is overpopulation a myth?

  9. Yeah, the poor have lots of kids. And a rich motherfucker’s only child uses fifty times as many resources and pollutes fifty times as much as any poor man’s brood.

    • Great point.
      An excellent reason for Amerikans to stop having kids. Even thee poorest Amerikan kids consume much more than most others on thee planet.

    • Nirvanasteve | Aug 30, 2013 at 5:57 pm |

      Not to be the devil’s advocate, but I’ve seen no evidence of this. In fact, it’s the cheap mass-produced nonsense tailored for us in the working class that causes a large chunk of the environmental problems (think anything made of plastic and McDonald’s burger ‘meat’),

  10. Simon Barbossa | Aug 28, 2013 at 12:48 am |

    “Here’s a thoght, if you want to protest wealth inequality, quit having kids you can’t afford. The system of increasingly devalued labor we’re
    trapped in is entirely dependent on an endless supply of wage slaves
    lining up to be devalued. What if you cut off the supply at the source?
    You’ve made it so bad for us, we don’t even want to bring any kids into
    this hell you’re feeding from. That’s fucking rebellion. Seems like an
    unreasonable sacrifice to most but some people had to fight in wars and
    blow other people’s heads off to change our world for the better. A
    concerted effort to not procreate for a generation seems like a minor
    concession in comparison. The powers that be would lose their shit and
    it would absolutely work. Rather than a hunger strike, a birth rate
    strike. I’ll file it in the never, ever going to fucking happen
    category. Totally unthinkable”

    eeeehhhh i’m not gonna agree on this one with you.
    for one, wage slaves are not nearly as valuable as they were before the industrial evolution. if you look at the manufacturing sector, it has declined and the service sector has exploded. and who gets the services? not the elite, we know they have their own people for that kind of thing. no, the ‘service’ industry simply tries to feed back in on itself, endless consumer loop.

    second, have you ever seen Mike Judge’s “idiocracy”?? dude if only the Kardashian’s, Cyrus’, and Honey Boo Boo’s of the world breed, humanity is FUCKED. Like, we think we’re fucked now, but seriously, it’s time for the smart/cool/interesting/subversive/expressive/artistic/critical thinkers to fuckin balance this shit OUT. If you believe in reincarnation (and i hope you do) out of pure selfish reasoning shouldn’t we want to, at the very least, reincarnate into a future where 90% of our contemporaries aren’t brain-dead iZombies??

    third, i have 2 kids, and it is seriously the most transformative human experience i have ever had. every single human being should know the joy and love that comes from making people. making people is high grade magickal shit. i think the psychotic powers that be want to rob us of that human experience.
    for reals.

    • Oh yeah… your superior genes will definitely save thee planet.
      Elitism is DEFINITIVELY a reason to continue this cycle.

      In thee past, thee nuclear family was unknown. Everyone raised kids together. (obviously this is all my take on history)… it also seems like it consumes your life to raise kids as a couple… (I would also suggest this is one of thee mechanisms that keep thee cycle going… since you want to feel your life has meaning… you keep telling folx (and yourself) how important and fulfilling it is… and of course it should be very trans-formative… but that narrative keeps acting as a form of propaganda for our society.

      It seems to me, it’s bad for everyone (kids, parents society) for 2 parents to raise 1-??? kids…

      Now here is a crazy idea… What if… What IF, instead 6-10 folx got together to raise 2-3 kids. Lots more input… lots more LOVE and ATTENTION…. lots more resources for each kid…
      I know it’s totally CRAZY… but it sure sounds kinda sane to me.

      • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 3:10 pm |

        Both of you guys have good points here. It takes a village, but if the most “productive” or “capable” individuals are genetically outcompeted by demographic decisions, our species misses out in the long run. And that’s the utopian view. The dystopian perspective on this would be that differing reproductive strategies between educated “elites” and uneducated “proles” leads to a literal caste system, and maybe an eventual forking of the evolutionary path.

    • kowalityjesus | Aug 29, 2013 at 1:09 am |

      While I DON’T think that smartness and interestingness is NOT inherent in all humans born in this world to some degree, it is imo evidenced that coolness is natured and nurtured to human progeny best through nuclear-family procreation. I mean who can really understand coolness? Its like a swirl in a fractal…

    • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm |

      But Brawndo’s got electrolytes!

  11. “Billionaire
    assholes will further bind themselves into those crap roles by making
    horrifically awful karmic decisions that affect them irreparably, damning
    themselves to reincarnate as the very people they’re preying on.”

    As I walked into work this morning, and my thoughts turned to the shitstorm in Syria, I was thinking about the poor mofos who are going to be caught up in that war between the elite, and tempered that with the idea that we somehow ‘choose’ to reincarnate in this hellhole every time, although that choice may very well be mitigated in some way I couldn’t quite put my finger on, past actions being one possibility. I then began quite an entertaining daydream about Margaret Thatcher, Ronnie Reagan et al (including their invisible backers) all being reincarnated down in Syria, again and again, until the karmic debt was repaid. I didn’t think it a serious notion, more of a revenge fantasy, but nonetheless I found the idea intriguing.

    And then I read that above. I mean, what? These synchronicities are never accidental.

    And also, great article. Again.

  12. The Holy Mountain by Alejandro Jodorowsky great nivue !!

  13. daphnehan | Aug 28, 2013 at 6:28 pm |

    Those who chose not breed are those who should breed. At least one offspring.

  14. ellis_dee | Aug 28, 2013 at 7:04 pm |

    When I saw the headline of this article, I mistook ‘occult’ for ‘new age’. My mistake. I thought for a second that this was going to be all about how new age spirituality is such a scam. It turned out to be something much crazier.

    The only trend or agenda I can observe is that people (from all classes of life) have been consistently bashing science and reason in favor of superstition or dogma. It has been going on for a long time.

    The author over generalizes by lumping people who have too many kids in with people who build stuff. It seems the article is nothing but a general criticism of capitalism and western values.

  15. Adam's Shadow | Aug 28, 2013 at 9:57 pm |

    Good article, but one major quibble:

    All geniuses, shamans, artists, humanitarians, etc. were once children; so were all sociopaths, dictators, oligarchs, and fools. So was every single person posting to and reading this website. That’s how life works. I understand the need to curb the world’s overpopulation and the irreparable damage done to our planet by the human race. However, if you really think the primary answer to solving the inequalities and excesses of the world is to just have less people, and that includes condemning anyone in the Western world who happens to have reproduced, then, well…

    You could always just start that depopulation trend with yourself; otherwise, that criticism seems a little hypocritical to me. Just throwing it out there.

    • Bullseye.

      • Adam's Shadow | Aug 31, 2013 at 12:17 pm |


        Incidentally, I understand the author’s point: the overwhelming and damn-near oppressive sociocultural and biological imperative to have kids and further stock the planet with an unsustainable human population. I personally don’t care if you do or don’t choose to have children; it’s a personal choice, and I don’t feel qualified enough as a human being to tell you that it’s inherently a right or wrong choice. But it seems somewhat elitist and callous to assume that anyone having kids is helping to wreck the future of the planet (and by extension, the human race). It should be a goal to live in balance with the natural world; not to dominate it, but neither to just “check out.” Either position is an extreme, and extremes are good for self-development, but too much of an extreme and you become a fanatic.

    • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 3:12 pm |

      Offworld colonies are the long term solution imo

      • Adam's Shadow | Aug 31, 2013 at 6:52 pm |

        Similar to Tim Leary’s SMI2LE (can’t do the “squared” symbol)? I like that idea, and I fully support the exploration of space, but I’ve also heard the counterargument that it would only lead to more planetary exploitation by human beings, with which I can also empathize. So I’m kind of torn: it seems like off-world colonization its the only feasible, long-term solution for the survival of the human race, but if we really don’t get our shit together ecologically and ethically, it also seems like we’re just delaying the inevitable.

        But I agree that it needs to happen if we want to avoid a cataclysmic population loss here on Earth; like others on this site, I have a vague sense that a reckoning for humanity is approaching sooner rather than later.

        • The Well Dressed Man | Aug 31, 2013 at 9:10 pm |

          Karat works, but SMI^2LE looks off.

          My hope is that offworlding would relieve the pressure on Earth’s ecosystem. Getting out of the gravity well is quite energy intensive, but once we’re up there, we’d need to manage with exo-resources. I’m excited at the prospect of asteroid mining. The possibility of fucking up new worlds is of course real, but if the rest of our system is really as lifeless as it seems, not an issue for the foreseeable future.

  16. Anaelyssa | Aug 29, 2013 at 12:55 pm |

    I don’t think it’s going to work if everyone enlightened enough to rebel just stops having children. I think it would be more logical for them to have many children and brainwash them into being just as enlightened. (And by brainwash, I mean educate and show them the wonders of the world and not let them be zomibified by the TV.)

    • Anaelyssa | Aug 29, 2013 at 1:12 pm |

      Or I suppose you could just brainwash other people’s children, but most parents would be opposed to that. So you’d have to limit yourself to liberating adults who’ve had a whole childhood of zombification.

      The point is to get an enlightenment pyramid scheme going. (I know those exist already.)

      • Eva Rinaldi | Sep 4, 2013 at 10:46 pm |

        I think you could probably brainwash other people’s children into being enlightened very slowly, over time, under the guise of teaching them other things.
        Until someone invents the young lady’s illustrated primer. I think John Taylor Gatto did it until he quit teaching.

  17. ManwithnoCountry | Aug 30, 2013 at 3:28 pm |

    I still have to do mental gymnastics to understand why the in the
    third world who were once happily living in villages or whatever, having
    no use one way or another for jobs, or rigidly vertical power
    structures, let alone needing to work at a factory as slaves.

  18. johnsawyer | Aug 30, 2013 at 5:57 pm |

    Thad writes: “In this [dream], I’m on a higher plane of reality and all of our conjoined plotlines are being churned out with zero regard to consequence by what I can best describe of as a 5th dimensional thought factory.”

    While I’m not entirely un-spiritual, and I don’t discount the fact that some revelations can be had by some careful use of some drugs, I prefer more confirmable reference points, like information about primate behavior (including humans), the mechanics of evolution, etc. to help me figure out what’s happening with people, the universe, etc., than ascribing it to higher beings, forces, etc. Our own genetic impulses can account for all of that, and the impulse to ascribe so much to things outside of us might be both a way of laying blame elsewhere, and of aggrandizing oneself by seeing those impulses as somehow being cosmic forces. The mind can construct some very misleading ideas about things without more practical knowledge, including the popular misuse of terms used in physics, like “a 5th dimensional thought factory” (though I think Thad used this as an allusion rather than a real suggestion). Perceiving some kind of higher, thinking beings or forces as being responsible for what’s happening, may also be just another version of the various optical illusions that at first glance seem to be showing a particular thing being there, when it’s not, and of anthropomorphism, no matter how real one’s perceptions of “higher beings” might be. But I can’t guarantee that, of course.

    • Nirvanasteve | Aug 30, 2013 at 6:35 pm |

      What if it were possible to perceive these ‘genetic impulses’ by dreams, drugs, or meditations — if, while being in a state conducive to awareness of inner things, these impulses could access the parts of your brain responsible for perception of sight and sound, so that it would be possible both to see and speak with them? And what if they conveyed a message of how they are acting within you and consequently every other person in which they reside (as the oldest and most important of the genetic traits that make us human are obviously shared by every member of our species)? If such a thing was possible, would it not prove quite an illuminating source of knowledge? Have I broken my question mark key yet? No? Good(?).

  19. No! you got it all wrong, what they want is exactly the middle class (the most informed and cultured people who have started to become a threat to the world powers because of the internet) stops to reproduce.

    They have been increasing the number of hours we have to work per week just so the middle class cannot educate their children properly and have no time for them in an attempt to lead into the conclusion that it’s just better not to have children at all. Of course the lower classes and less informed mass of the society, as it had been referenced, will continue to have loads of children irresponsibly and so the population keeps steady. It’s the perfect plan to keep the system going. They do not want too many people, they just want enough people and they want them to be from a certain cultural and social background.

    If you want to stop overpopulation the best way is to pinpoint exactly who is reproducing in excess and put economical sanctions on them. And if you want to beat the world powers, have children and teach them the TRUTH about zionism, christianity, etc and all those pieces of crap that have been undermining humanity.

    On a side note: most of the middle class in the western countries is white. Despite the huge population growths in the last few years the white population has been decreasing lately and they intend to keep that going until they convince us to stop having children at all. THIS IS COVERT GENOCIDE!

  20. Renée Marino | Oct 12, 2013 at 6:52 pm |

    Thad – poverty is like a desert: it induces the species dwelling therein to bloom and proliferate. That being said, awareness is an eternal oasis.

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