Anaesthesiologists Claim Evidence Of Third State Of Consciousness

state of consciousnessVia Live Science, supposedly unconscious patients under certain dosages of general anaesthesia exist in a zombie-like state in which they can respond to commands, yet have no impulses of their own and feel nothing:

New findings point to the possibility of a state of mind in which a patient is neither fully conscious nor unconscious, experts say.

This possible third state of consciousness, may be a state in which patients can respond to a command, but are not disturbed by pain or the surgery, according to Dr. Jaideep Pandit, anesthetist at St John’s College in England.

Pandit dubbed this state dysanaesthesia, and said the evidence that it exists comes partly from a recent study, in which 34 surgical patients were anesthetized, and had their whole body paralyzed except for their forearm, allowing them to move their fingers in response to commands.

In the patients who responded to the doctor’s command by moving their hand, the doctors took it as a sign of consciousness, and increased the anesthetic dose. However, Pandit argues these patients were not “conscious.” The fact that patients only responded to command, and didn’t move spontaneously shows their state of mind is different from normal consciousness, he said.

17 Comments on "Anaesthesiologists Claim Evidence Of Third State Of Consciousness"

  1. Ted Heistman | Sep 21, 2013 at 9:05 am |

    I think ya almost gotta be a creepy fuck to be a surgeon or an anesthesiologist…

    • Calypso_1 | Sep 21, 2013 at 9:45 am |

      No, but if you are a creepy fuck those fields are probably not the best for you to pursue.

      • Ted Heistman | Sep 21, 2013 at 9:52 am |

        Right! Slice and dice people for the greater good!

        • Monkey See Monkey Do | Sep 21, 2013 at 10:40 am |

          You enter the same domain as the killer but its alchemized to cure not to kill.

        • Molly Elizabeth | Sep 22, 2013 at 8:52 am |

          I hear a premise for a new Showtime show, a la Dexter? Surgeon makes zombies- but he commands them to work for the peace corps or something 😉

  2. Simon Valentine | Sep 21, 2013 at 9:42 am |

    they say the spine is hardwired
    witch doctors walking dead
    i met this dunmer this one time in skingrad
    and she said
    “do you know what the fine for necrophilia is, here in Cyrodiil?”
    “why yes” my imperial mage respond
    “the price we play is death” “our golems of gold also have a fine” “but not as fine as thine”
    her heart then plucked we went and …
    it was raining in the graveyard, upon that dreadful hour
    when i awoke in shallow dig, behold, stone dark swimming souls
    she had left a prize akin to the masters’ towers
    so ideal, that dark fissure, this shade of the revenant
    disembodied and quite entirely desolate
    like a spectre program activate
    she’s adequate

  3. Rhoid Rager | Sep 21, 2013 at 9:52 am |

    So this is how politics works…

  4. And now other anesthesiologists of the world are pissed at these guys for letting the cat out of the bag about their zombie fun times.

  5. Charlie Primero | Sep 21, 2013 at 10:05 am |

    My years of research as an amateur anesthesiologist indicate dysanaesthesia is indeed possible.

    I have yet to achieve Jeffery Dahmer’s dream of a pleasure automaton, but work continues.

  6. Hypnosis….?

  7. BuzzCoastin | Sep 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm |

    I don’t know the exact number
    but the Buddha identified about 500 different states of consciousness
    and Myers & Briggs, using Jung’s ideas, found hundreds
    and what is that state of consciousness called
    when we know we’re being stared at?

    • Buddha is a person who observe the his own body , Mind and out side world
      ” Epistemological ” But He could not find what is the ” Being ” which is ” Ontological ”
      and the jung is a person who is full of superstitions and fetish about myths which led to castrate from freud

  8. I wonder how/if this differs from the affects of scopolamine?

  9. Alan Morse Davies | Sep 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm |

    They should repeat the experiment with the subjects hooked up to an MRI to see which parts of the brain are active.

    Someone’s already mentioned hypnosis, how about sleepwalking?

    I don’t know if you’ve ever talked to a sleepwalker while they’re in that state but they appear conscious and can respond to commands, but only within the mental frame of reference they occupy at that point, which often bears little resemblance to the actual environment they’re in.

  10. QuietPerson | Sep 21, 2013 at 3:23 pm |

    While I’m sure there’s something to this finding, I also think consciousness is more of a continuous set of spectra (e.g., between waking and sleeping, between introspection and outward focus, between rational and mythical, etc.) than something that can be neatly divided and counted. To me, saying there’s a “third” state of consciousness is like saying there’s a “third” weather condition, a sixth direction, or a tenth body position.

  11. jasonpaulhayes | Sep 23, 2013 at 12:12 am |

    All your consciousness are belong to us.

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