Are Psychedelics A Gateway To Interspecies Communication?

interspecies communication

Via the Daily Grail, Paul Devereux on tapping into non-human awareness surrounding us:

We have already noted that the idea that ontologically independent beings (‘spirits’) or intelligences are contactable through plant-induced trances is standard in most if not all shamanic tribal societies, but to posit such a thing in modern Western societies is viewed as tantamount to insanity, a nonsense notion to be dismissed out of hand.

Because of the deep-rooted modern Western assumption that consciousness cannot occur in any other guise than human (the ultimate hubris of our species, perhaps) discussion of a conscious plant kingdom, or of that providing a portal through which contact with other, ontologically independent beings or intelligences can occur, is simply not possible within the mainstream culture.

It is a remarkable fact that plant hallucinogens are hallucinogenic precisely because they contain the same, or effectively the same, chemicals as are found in the human brain, and so act on us as if we were indeed engaged in an interspecies communication.

That message may be to do with the need for us to change our minds, or, at least, to broaden our cognitive horizons. The plant kingdom could be urging us to allow the ability to ‘switch channels’ in consciousness terms to let them become a recognised and acceptable part of our emerging global culture.

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  • bjorn dylan

    Does anyone know if this is an excerpt from one of his books?

  • Rob Lai

    Its an interesting angle. I don’t know if I buy it, but it interests me at least…

  • Robyn Su Miller

    What will the vegans eat when we recognize plant consciousness?

    • Rob Lai

      AND it inconveniences Vegans! I think I like this idea better and better…

    • jasonpaulhayes

      They will just eat pure sunshine. Some already do, it’s called Sungazing.

    • Monkey See Monkey Do

      sigh, Consciousness isn’t the issue, many vegans are pantheists which recognize consciousness in everything. Its about recognizing the pain and suffering of animals. Industrial meat production is cruel, unhealthy and highly damaging to the ecosystem. Humans are extremely speciesist when it comes to the exploitation and suffering of animals.

  • Ashley

    they’re basically talking about how dmt is found in all living things, including the human brain.
    Do your research people.

  • Daniel Gill

    I’ve said this many times before but Shinto does not use any drugs nor do other cultures with ancestor veneration in east-Asia . This is a good list of books.

    GHOSTS OF WAR IN VIETNAM

    by Heonik Kwon

    WAR AND SHADOWS: THE HAUNTING OF VIETNAM

    by Mai Lan Gustaffson

    SPIRITS WITHOUT BORDERS: VIETNAMESE SPIRIT MEDIUMS IN A TRANS-NATIONAL AGE

    by Karen Fjelstad

    SINISTER YOGIS

    by David Gordon White

    KING VIKRAM AND THE VAMPIRE

    by Captain Sir Richard Burton

    DREAMTIME: CONCERNING THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN WILDERNESS AND CIVILIZATION

    by Hans Peter Duerr

    THE GIFT: THE FORM AND FUNCTIONS OF EXCHANGE IN ARCHAIC SOCIETIES

    by Marcel Mauss

    DARK AWAKENINGS

    by Matt Cardin

    THE VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE

    by William James

    WHEN GOD TALKS BACK

    by T. M. Luhrmann

    ALEISTER CROWLEY AND THE OUIJA BOARD

    by J. Edward Cornelius

    AUTHORS OF THE IMPOSSIBLE: THE PARANORMAL AND THE SACRED

    by Jeffrey J. Kripal

    COLERIDGE AND THE DAEMONIC IMAGINATION

    by Gregory Leadbetter

    THE HISTORY OF SPIRITUALISM

    by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

    THE DARKENED ROOM: WOMEN, POWER, AND SPIRITUALISM IN LATE VICTORIAN ENGLAND

    by Alex Owen

    THE KYBALION

    by Three Initiates

    LIVING WITH DJINNS: UNDERSTANDING AND DEALING WITH THE INVISIBLE IN CAIRO

    by Barbara Drieskens

    OZARK MAGIC AND FOLKLORE

    by Vance Randolf

    THE IDEA OF THE HOLY

    by Rudolf Otto

    THE SACRED AND THE PROFANE

    by Mircea Eliade

    THE LOVELORN GHOST AND THE MAGICAL MONK

    by Justin Thomas McDaniel

    SHAMANISM IN KOREAN CHRISTIANITY

    by Jang Nam Hyuck

    SPIRIT OF THE MOUNTAINS

    by David A. Mason

    KUT: HAPPINESS THROUGH RECIPROCITY

    by Hyun-key Kim Hogarth

    KOREAN SHAMANISM -MUISM

    by Dr. Kim Tae-kon & Dr. Chang Soo-kyung

    THE CATALPA BOW

    by Carmen Blacker

    THE DEMON’S SERMON ON THE MARTIAL ARTS

    by Issai Chozanshi

    OCCULT JAPAN: SHINTO, SHAMANISM, OR THE WAY OF THE GODS

    by Percival Lowell

    THE ESSENCE OF SHINTO: JAPAN’S SPIRITUAL HEART

    by Motohisa Yamakage

    THE JAPANESE ART OF REIKI

    by Bronwen & Frans Stiene

    • The Well Dressed Man

      BEHOLD: THE PROTONG

      by Stanisław Szukalski

      THE DOUBTFUL GUEST

      by Edward Gorey

      THE SOCIETY OF THE SPECTACLE

      by Guy Debord

      FOR THE MAN WHO KNOWS HIS PLACE

      by Eric Stanton

      ODE TO A SMALL LUMP OF GREEN PUTTY I FOUND IN MY LEFT ARMPIT ONE MIDSUMMER MORNING

      by Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz

      MATHEMATICS IN WESTERN CULTURE

      by Morris Kline

      LIBER NULL AND PSYCHONAUT

      by Peter J. Carroll

      THE FINAL PROGRAMME

      by Michael Moorcock

      HENRY + GLENN FOREVER

      by Igloo Tornado

      THINK AND GROW RICH

      by Napoleon Hill

      THE TEARS OF EROS

      by Georges Batallie

      MY GIRLFRIEND COMES TO THE CITY AND BEATS ME UP

      by Stephen Elliot

      GETTING THINGS DONE

      by David Allen

      THE JOB

      by William S. Burroughs

      SEX AND ROCKETS: THE OCCULT WORLD OF JACK PARSONS

      by John Carter

      SOLITARY FITNESS

      by Charles Bronson

      BLUEPRINT READING FOR THE MACHINE TRADES

      by Russ Schultz

      ICE HAVEN

      by Daniel Clowes

      THE PLAYERS HANDBOOK

      by Gary Gygax

      THE YAGE LETTERS

      by William S. Burroughs

      FUNDAMENTALS OF PHYSICS

      by Halliday, Resnick and Walker

      TOKYOSCOPE: THE JAPANESE CULT FILM COMPANION

      by Patrick Macias

      LIPSTICK TRACES

      by Greil Marcus

      THE GEOMETRY

      by Rene Descartes

      RENEWABLE ENERGY: POWER FOR A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE

      by Godfrey Boyle

      CALCULUS: EARLY TRANSCENDENTALS

      by James Stewart

      CALCULUS: AN INTUITIVE AND PHYSICAL APPROACH

      by Morris Kline

      CODEX SERAPHINIANUS

      by Luigi Serafini

      THE BOOK OF THE SUBGENIUS

      edited by Rev. Ivan Stang

      PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA

      by Malaclypse the Younger and Lord Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst

  • BuzzCoastin

    you don’t need psychedelics to communicate with plants
    but for modern humans
    it helps

    the confusion is caused by the human assumption
    that consciousness is only extant in humans
    which completely disregards the evidence of plant & animal consciousness

  • MRockatansky

    Great but – I’d like to see a clearer, more ringing endorsement for plant suffrage. I think that’s the issue for any real broadening of cognitive horizons. Otherwise, how is that not just a high-minded piece of fancy noble-sounding talk.

    It just seems condescending that plants need to be our marionettes, with human voices to speak for them and their message. Like they’re our ventriloquist dummies? C’mon, what’s that about?

    Enough shilly-shallying. Give plants the vote. And let the freedom of real interspecies communication proper ring.

  • BADGERSMILK

    “providing a portal through which contact with other, ontologically independent beings or intelligences can occur, is simply not possible within the mainstream culture.”

    Aren’t all humans ontologically independent beings!

  • The Well Dressed Man

    @Calypso_1 Goats and shrooms: Do tell.

  • Sean

    Couldn’t agree more.
    My first psilocybin experience was the single most profound, poignant, inspiring, humbling, beautiful, spiritual, and moving experience of my entire life. There aren’t enough adjectives to do it justice.

    The overarching “message” of my experience was one of deeply connected communication with the planet itself…the biosphere. I literally felt the natural world communicate all that it was to me. I felt the deep evolutionary time of the planet. I felt HOW LONG 4.5 Billion years was as lucidly and vividly as if I could see it before my eyes.

    It blew my mind, in other words. I was reminded of the scene in Contact when Jodie Foster’s character sees the alien planet for the first time and, with dilated pupils and a look of astonishment, kept repeating the mantra, “I had no idea…I had NO idea…I had no idea…”

    I really had no idea. And anyone who dismisses psychedelic experiences off-hand without having had one…boy, do you have NO idea. You might as well be a blind person saying colors couldn’t possibly exist.