Charlie Veitch, Turncoat Truther

From Myles Power's Interview with Charlie Veitch

From Myles Power’s Interview with Charlie Veitch

I’m curious as to our readers’ opinions of Charlie Veitch, profiled by the Las Vegas Guardian Express as a former 9/11 Truther who changed his mind:

Once one of Britain’s principal conspiracy theorists as well as friend to David Icke and Alex Jones, Charlie Veitch, was known as a 9/11 “truther.”  As soon as he realized that he had been duped, he stopped.  But that was when his problems really began.

According to an interview Veitch gave to the Telegraph, Veitch, who had been Right-wing, joined the Territorial Army (TA).  After a drunken night out with his best friend, his friend had turned to Veitch and told him that they had been lying to him.  He told Veitch that 9/11 was not what he thought it was and that he was being given “special knowledge.”  Veitch’s friend went on to show him a video entitled Terrorism: A History of Government Sponsored Terror, a video that was produced by US radio talk presenter, Alex Jones.

Veitch was shortly after made redundant, so with some of his payout, he purchased a camcorder and megaphone, in the style of Alex Jones. He used eccentric methods to publicly express his beliefs, such as swooping on public spaces and embarking public transport to make announcements to whoever was available to listen.  In one piece of footage, Veitch was heard to say to a group of passengers: “I am a proponent of the idea that the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition manner.  Those buildings would not have collapsed in the slightest from a Boeing 767 hit.”

But one June afternoon, in New York City’s Times Square, Veitch began to film himself on his cell phone, as he made statements to camera about the devastation of the World Trade Center.  Only this time, his message was different from all the others he had posted on Youtube.  In the video, he said that he no longer believed that 9/11 was an inside job.

Because of his conspiracy theory films and the fact that he was at the forefront of what is known as “The Truth Movement” arm in the UK, Veitch had been approached by the BBC to go on an all-expenses paid 9-day trip to the United States, to examine these “conspiracies” from a scientific standpoint, with a view to furnish him with real information.

In the BBC program, entitled 9/11: Conspiracy Road Trip, 4 additional individuals, with divergent opinions from the official account of events of 9/11, had been selected to go on the road trip with Veitch.

The conspiracy theorists were given the opportunity to talk to building engineers, scientists, FBI and CIA agents, demolition experts and designers of the World Trade Center.  They were also allowed to talk to relatives of those who had tragically lost their lives, as well as pay a visit to the Pentagon, the World Trade Center in Manhattan and the Pennsylvania United Flight 93 site.

After all of the scientific evidence was put to Veitch, he did something completely out of the ordinary for a hardcore “truther.”  He did a U-turn and changed his mind.  Standing in front of the White House, on that sunny day in June, Veitch spoke to the BBC presenter and road trip leader, Andrew Maxwell. In front of the BBC camera, Veitch told him:

“I found my personal truth and you don’t have to agree with me, but I can’t push propaganda for ideas that I no longer believe in and that’s what I do, so I just need to basically… take it on the chin, admit I was wrong, be humble about it and just carry on.”

Before the end of his road trip, Charlie Veitch held up his cell phone in the middle of Times Square, pointed the phone’s camera on himself and told the world that he had changed his mind, that he had been wrong…

[continues at the Las Vegas Guardian Express]

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  • _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

    thumbs up for this guy

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      THIS MAN KNOWING THE TRUTH NOW AND TRUTH IS 9/11 WAS PLANES, NOT UFOS OR JEW WORLD ORDOR. OFFICIAL NARRATIVE MAKES MORE SENSE THAN ALL OTHER THINGS EXCEPT FOR WTC7 WHICH FALL DOWN DO TO NATURAL CAUSES LIKE SMOKING AND FAT PEOPLE ON SUPPORT BEAMS. OPEN YOU’RE EYES SHEPPLE!

      • notalent

        Righteous babble….Hmmm….survey says….. Disinformation Troll?, Annoying Troll?, Spy Bot?, Drunken Hillfolk? or hopefully, please, a Dada Scribbler……

        • Rhoid Rager

          Fat people on support beams!!

          • Microhero

            An image I will cherish for a long time..

      • http://www.youtube.com/chillmeester Chiller

        nice one, good sarcasm dude !

  • Juan

    I find this incredibly amusing. But just because he realized what a whacko Alex Jones and people of his ilk truly are, it does not mean that the “official narrative” viz 9-11 is anywhere near the truth. But kudos to him for his honesty and intergrity. They are rare qualities these days.

    • jasonpaulhayes

      Doesn’t change the fact the CIA fucked up and their foreign policy let Al-Qaeda infiltrate the United States, funded by CIA run drug cartels and tax dollars… or so I’ve read.

  • Dan Nicolle

    The ~bombs in the building~ story was put out by DARPA to polarize the debate on 911 into tin foil hatters on one hand and official story believers on the other. It was always a total red herring to divert attention away from the real questions. Anyone found questioning was to be placed straight into the ~bombs in the building~ camp and their opinion disregarded and dissent ignored. With the path made clear TPTB were able to pull of some amazing propaganda like making 70% of the US public believe that Saddam was connected to 9/11, for example.

  • DeepCough

    You don’t have to be a conspiracy-theory nutjob to consider that the official story is incomplete and that there are some inconvenient facts that the government naturally covers up in order to prevent mass hysteria.

  • BrianApocalypse

    I watched this whole melt-down as it happened. What happened to him was a perfect illustration of everything that is wrong with “Truther” culture. If ever you need evidence that Trutherism is a belief system, then look no further than what happened to Charlie Veitch.

    This man received a constant barrage of threats and abuse simply for having an opinion. I saw individuals on youtube making lists of usernames of anyone who dared voice a word of support or agreement with him, like some kind of Stasi stormtroopers for “Truth”. It was simply beyond belief to these people that someone could change their mind about this subject. In much the same way that, for example, a Christian might blame Satan for someone abandoning their faith, the Truthers had to concoct elaborate and evidence-free theories about why Veitch had done this. He was an agent all along, he had been “got to”, he’d sold out to the man etc…

    I don’t agree with everything the guy says, but I have respect for anyone who had a belief system and possessed the dedication to truth required to deconstruct and reject it.

    • http://www.youtube.com/chillmeester Chiller

      so what if he allowed himself to indoctrinated by the fbi , cia , one selected group of engineers and emotionally affected by the family of the victims ?
      what about the engineers, dissident cia and fbi people, and victim-family’s who are truthers?

      the corrupt government controlled childmolester-institute called the BBC has preselected the people he met and he was stupid enough to fall for the trick.

      it doesnt give any credit to his change of mind. i believe he still has the right to express his opinion and should not be threatened by anone for this.
      not by government and not by Truther-nutcases .

      whatever someone’s opinion is , we cannot stray from facts like building 7 and the holes in the official story. politicians are basically the propaganda department for the real rulers to sell their crap to us, paid scripted dummy actors who do as their handlers tell them, otherwise it’s bye bye.

      • BrianApocalypse

        My comment wasn’t about the details, right or wrong, about 9/11. Whether or not there are credible people who disbelieve the official version is irrelevant. No matter whether Veitch was correct or not, he has the right to an opinion without being attacked for it.

        The BBC actually had minimal involvement with the production of the show he was on. It was made by an independent company called Renegade Pictures on their behalf, so that whole government child-molesting propagandists angle you made doesn’t really stick.

        • http://www.youtube.com/chillmeester Chiller

          doesnt matter who produces it, the government paid for it though their jimmi saville-and others pedofile BBC front-organization. and the whole show is in my mind a disinfo psyop trying to confuse some idiots.

          that charly veitch guy maybe even in on it from the beginning. cant say for sure.

          i just dont trust anything coming at us from suspect sources , wich i believe is a very sensible approach.
          National television has been used for propaganda and brainwashing since the inception by every nation.

          and on his right to have his own opinion i agree with you, we all have the right to our views, thats real freedom.
          but it doesnt make anyone objectively right. the facts and logic have to be strong.

          • BrianApocalypse

            Of course it matters who produced it. What you’re suggesting is that the BBC gave direct orders to an independent TV company about the content
            of the show they were making, and that the mentality behind this process was influenced by some kind of paedophile-related secret agenda.

            Then you’re suggesting Veitch was in on the whole thing from the beginning.

            It is exactly this type of thinking that lead to Veitch being abused and even threatened by “believers” in the first place. No evidence for any of it.

            In the final analysis, if indeed it was intended as a
            piece of propaganda, it wasn’t really very effective was it? The opinions of Truthers were simply hardened, and for those who either had no interest in 9/11 conspiracies or were not convinced… well, they’re still not convinced.

            The only people for whom this show was a big deal were Truthers and Charlie Vietch. To the rest of the world, it’s forgotten.

  • Rhoid Rager

    Some disappointing comments on here so far. This article is shit journalism. It’s clearly meant to libel those who question the official narrative. I watched the BBC documentary in question, and the ‘evidence’ presented by experts did not go into any great depth. The whole damned documentary had a carnival-like feel to it. I never knew about Veitch before this disinfo campaign with the BBC, so it doesn’t affect my doubts about the official 9/11 story if one person publiclly changes his mind about it. And judging from the final paragraph of the story: “Veitch has concluded that conspiracy theorists are professional victims who have a hatred of high achievers and who were likely to have been bullied at school,” my disinfonaut bullshit alarm is ringing.

    Anyone who gives the state the benefit of the doubt is an idiot. The state has been and will always be about violence. There is nothing inconceivable about the state systematically sending psychopathic agents (from any country) dressed as elevator maintenance men into all three buildings over the course of several weeks leading up to 9/11 to plant bombs. Make no mistake about it–by not perpetuating violence in some fashion against someone all the time the state has everything to lose. Violence gives power ‘legitimacy’.

  • notalent

    I remember seeing the videos of him ‘bullhorning’ in public and grabbing the P.A. in a grocery store to say “911 was an inside job”…..amusing at times. So this guy changed his mind, big deal. I, like a lot of others, thought the “official story” was complete horsedook on the first day when it was offered as a completely (unchanging in 12 years) “Truth” within hours. Anyone who believes the “official story” is an orthodox “truther”, or perhaps a “Myther”….because that whole line has been sold as a bill of goods since day one….I don’t have the fookin’ “truth”, just a lot of questions and unexplained evidence and witness testimony. Too bad the Las Vegas Guardian didn’t touch on any of those taboo subjects.

  • DrDavidKelly

    Lot of unanswered questions re 9/11 – doesnt make the official story any more credible because we dont have all of those answers. They sure were quick to get rid of any potential evidence too – all that steel. The Pentagon thingy with no sizable plane bits laying around – not a single CCTV camera caught an image of the plane? The Pentagon! One of the most watched buildings in the world. WTC 7 – the near free fall speed the towers fell etc etc … it’s all very weird … questions questions …

  • mole_face

    Interesting wording here : “They were also allowed to talk to relatives of those who had tragically lost their lives”. “Allowed”? I’d bet anything that an emotionally manipulative face to face meeting with 911 victims’ families was meant to be the centerpiece of the entire trip.

    I’ve always been deeply skeptical of both the “official version” of 911 and of the “official alternative version” pushed by all the popular 911 Truth disinfotainment, but these sorts of emotional appeals are usually desperate tactics that are meant to deflect from holes in your side’s argument.

  • Adam S.

    A stopped watch is accurate twice a day . There’s 25 different Federal Government Intelligence Agencies just in the Washington DC White Pages. You know the employees of those 25 different intelligence agencies do every work day? Plot conspiracies.

    There’s been traces of molten molybdenum in the ash covering NYC after 9-11. You know how high a temperature is required to literally melt the molybdenum in the chrome-moly steel beams?

    “Molybdenum
    Mo – 42

    Melting point 2622 C, 4751.6 F ”

    http://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/42/molybdenum

    The Twin Towers did not “fall down.” There were virtually atomized.

  • BuzzCoastin

    Hairy Vetch is a great cover crop & nitrogen fixer

    • Rhoid Rager

      The most useful comment by far. Here’s to green manure!

      • BuzzCoastin

        chop & drop before it goes to seed
        better than chicken shit or even bullshit

        • Rhoid Rager

          I have had really good results from chicken shit, tho.

          • BuzzCoastin

            yeah but
            Hairy Vetch is less stinky & more respectable
            than plain ole chicken shit
            and it’s cheaper too

  • moremisinformation

    “The conspiracy theorists were given the opportunity to talk to building
    engineers, scientists, FBI and CIA agents, demolition experts and
    designers of the World Trade Center. They were also allowed to talk to
    relatives of those who had tragically lost their lives, as well as pay a
    visit to the Pentagon, the World Trade Center in Manhattan and the
    Pennsylvania United Flight 93 site.”

    Interesting that they weren’t given the opportunity to talk to any 9/11 whistleblowers or architect’s for 9/11 – Sibel Edmonds, Richard Andrew Grove, Richard Gage, etc. The quality aspects of the ‘truth movement’ (I like how this is presented as derogatory) have moved beyond thermite, WTC 7 and missiles, etc. and have been building the case as any decent crime unit would – looking into important aspects such as motive, opportunity and of course, who benefits?

    The coincidences are rampant when one looks in this direction:

    http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-744-kevin-ryan-exposes-another-19-911-suspects/

    http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-280-who-was-really-behind-the-911-attacks/

    http://www.corbettreport.com/911-truth-and-the-way-forward-starting-a-real-criminal-investigation/

    (yes, there’s overlap there).

    And just for fun. The most ridiculous 9/11 conspiracy there is:

    http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

  • davakins

    many intelligent people have wasted their time with all of this 911 conspiracy stuff. With the right funding, a person can get an ‘expert’ for any whackadoodle theory. A great way to control people, to me, would be to get them involved in such pointless activities such as Spreading The Truth!

  • http://charlesfrith.blogspot.com/ Charles Frith

    What a joke Disinfo is

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