• Ted Heistman

    You have to be obsessed with this kind of think to listen to this guys voice….luckily I am!

    • Bruteloop

      I loved his voice. Suits the whole thing perfectly.

  • Ted Heistman

    This is really good btw, worth getting through the agonizing first couple of minutes. Its like going through an ordeal of initiation in order to gain wisdom!

  • jasonpaulhayes

    If you like this you have to listen to the latest episode of 9sense Satanic Perspective Podcast… it makes a great analysis that demonstrates it’s anything but Gnostic and indeed follows a Christian narrative being that Tolkien was a Roman Catholic.

    http://youtu.be/mFHyXbgyYYY?t=19m20s

    • Ted Heistman

      Roman Catholicism is sexier than Christian Fundamentalism. Its the Difference between a Gothic Cathedral and a little White Church next to a corn field. So my point is, there is nothing particularly damning or even straightforward in pointing out that Tolkein was a Catholic….

      • jasonpaulhayes

        Neither perspective is my perspective, they are both perverted and in this age of reason all your belief are belong to us. Every tool in the carpenters bag is forged by the hand and flame of the Blacksmith.

        • ishmael2009

          What the hell are you on about?

          • jasonpaulhayes

            “It is the pervading law of all things organic and inorganic, of all
            things physical and metaphysical, of all things human and all things superhuman, of all true manifestations of the head, of the heart, of the soul, that the life is recognizable in its expression that form ever follows function, this is the law” Louis Sullivan

        • http://joenolan.com/blog Joe Nolan

          I agree with you both. Catholicism is rad on ritual. This is totally lost in the ongoing iterations of the Protestant Reformation. That said, the “organized” part of organized religion makes it all to human to be divine for me. People have no need of an intercessor between the mundane and the divine. We are, each of us, a lightning rod for the spirit.

  • BuzzCoastin

    because the Perennial Philosophy permeates the Hobbit & TLOTR
    doesn’t mean it adheres to any one the of doctrinal permutations it inspires
    but nonetheless
    a very good exposition and a synchronicty for me
    since just yesterday I reread Chapter 2 of TLOTH

  • jnana

    attended a gnostic mass presided over by steven hoeller once. even ate lunch with him. personally, though, I’ve got my disagreements with his church, but he is helping to spread some interesting and thought-provoking ideas.
    haven’t read or seen LOTR yet. but I plan on it soon, and will then listen to hoeller’s lectures

    • http://joenolan.com/blog Joe Nolan

      A Disinfo post by a LOTR newbie would be interesting as hell. Keep us informed. In the meantime, please illuminate your disagreements with the church. I’ve listened to many of the lectures and have always wanted to check out the mass. Would love to hear your thoughts.

      • jnana

        I do enjoy the high mass thing, but I prefer more spontaneity in my worship. Also, I disagree w/ the mythicist doctrine(which they don’t necessarily espouse, but I’m pretty sure most believe), although I can understand the perspective. But i’m not the typical modern gnostic, if there is such a thing. I also don’t care for “structure” and “hierarchy”. I like a little anarchy in my church ;) And a little church in my anarchy

  • marshall

    great lecture, thanks for posting Elias.

  • Guest

    Comedy gold! Thanks!

  • http://joenolan.com/blog Joe Nolan

    I’ve enjoyed these lectures for years. Thanks for reminding me.