• marshall

    I am a recruiter for the Army, and I can tell you that protesting in front of a recruiting station will get you nowhere. 99% of service members below Brig. General do not want to go to war anytime, let alone now when we have no money and everyone knows this Syria situation (and everyone knew about Iraq too) is a sham.

    • Juan

      Not judging, but how can you do your job knowing what you know?

      • marshall

        If people like me don’t, then we are all truly fucked. I swore to defend the Constitution, and while extreme action on this oath is not prudent, I am doing what I can. I will have a bachelor’s in legal studies soon and when I get out, I will do my damndest to go to law school (it isn’t that easy to get in), and hopefully a like minded person will take my place in the Army. I always tell people who call me a NAZI or whatever on the street, “the only way to change the system is to get into it and change it from within”. The Weather Underground did it, so can the Constitutionalists.

        • Juan

          I wish you all the best with your studies and especially with changing the system. May you get out of the army soon with your health and sanity intact.
          Looking at where we are, viz the current state of perpetual war for profit, not sure how effective the Weather Underground were at really changing anything.
          Also, don’t think there is an “only way” to do or accomplish whatever.

          • marshall

            Its the only way for an outsider, to be honest. Im the healthiest and most sane that ive ever been, but thank you. The W.U. liberal totalitarians took over, thats why we are where we are today. They have a Malthusian ideology, and its obvious.

          • Andrew

            Can you link to any evidence the Weather Underground took over the government?

          • marshall

            took over the government? the culture, the education system and the paradigm. Corporations and bankers own the government, everyone knows that. The ghost of the Weathermen saturates our culture.

          • Andrew

            I only agree with you about corporations and bankers owning the government.

          • gustave courbet

            I am always glad to hear that the establishment power structures are populated with some thinking people, so thanks for your service, not to the army, but to the ideals of the constitution. I also disagree with your preoccupation with the WU. Although liberal totalitarians are indeed at work in our system, I have found from my studies of the power elite that they have no real ideology beyond the exercise of power. Ideologies are for politicians and the little people they rally. A few book recommendations: “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man,” “Tragedy and Hope,””Super Class,” and “Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.”

          • marshall

            tragedy and hope is a good one, lengthy though. i will check out the others. WU is just an easy target, obviously its a little more complicated than that!. cheers.

        • Monkey See Monkey Do

          So because your an activist that infiltrates you would surely go around dissuading people from joining the army.

          • marshall

            Not at all, there is no reason NOT to join the Army, especially if you are like me, with little means to advance or progress. If someone is interested in joining, I just tell them the facts and let them decide for themselves. If they are not interested, then we shake hands and move on with our lives. It’s a good job, if you like to meet and talk to many different kinds of people. And, I am definitely not an activist, I am trying to figure out the system, and the Army is the best start to understanding hierarchical systems and organizations. It also teaches patience.

        • moremisinformation

          …”‘the only way to change the system is to get into it and change it from within”. The Weather Underground did it, so can the Constitutionalists.”

          “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.” -Lysander Spooner

          • marshall

            hehe, “Spooner”. the statement is not true at all, just one man’s opinion. there is a process to deem laws unconstitutional, and its the judicial system. the only problem is that there are too many laws being passed, and not enough review. there is a culture in D.C. that is apathetic to our original doctrine. obeying laws is an honor system, and creating them is no different. there is too large of a number of unconstitutional laws to even reference, and law itself is insanely complicated to begin with.

          • moremisinformation

            How is the quote not ‘true’?

            Also, I don’t believe there is anywhere in the Constitution that provides for the Supreme Court to interpret it. As it currently stands, the Supreme Court IS the Constitution. And how ridiculous is it that the ‘supreme law of the land’ can be passed when 4 out of 9 of the ‘top legal minds’ in the country don’t think it’s a good idea? What a joke.

            Check out Larken Rose’s work, if you get a chance. He covers the fallacy of authority fairly thoroughly.

          • marshall

            You’re getting into big picture legal theory (Jurisprudence), but supporting your argument with narrow examples of how the law is illogically and sometimes unethically applied. The Constitution is exteremly simple: the Articles outline how the government operates, assuming that public servants do not deviate from the structure, and the Bill of Rights is what it is. I would argue that the Constitution is an anrchist’s dream, as it sets out minimum standards, and lets all the other chips fall where they may. It’s unfortunate that oligarchs have taken over, and the 27th Amendment is a great example of that. I will check out Larken Rose, Im sure his work is profound and considerable.

          • moremisinformation

            ‘assuming that public servants do not deviate from the structure”

            Fail. The system design is broken, then. The Constitution cannot be an anarchists dream if it was a document set up for and by a government.

            Also, I’m still curious how Spooner’s quote is not true?

          • marshall

            ok, it’s true to him, but its just, like, his opinion man.if the constitution failed, then we would all be dead, or just not exist, right now. the system isnt broken, people are. unless you just start executing people who deviate until you find those beacons of integrity out there, every system, to include Anarchy (yes, sorry, but that is a system too), will fail. hey, maybe one day we can all be the ubermensch and create our own technology and be our own ‘gods’ or whatever, and i cant wait ’til that day, but until then we need some kind of structure and good leadership to get us there and establish a true paradigm.

          • moremisinformation

            Actually, it’s not an opinion. When taken from the perspective that the Constitution’s aim was apparently to create the smallest gov’t system ever – whose only aim was to protect life, liberty and property and that what you see currently is the largest gov’t ever – it failed.

            Regardless of what stories you tell yourself, the document was not effective at what you claim.

          • marshall

            the document is not human. the document does not change, unless congress ratifies a new amendment. i completely understand what you are saying, but the problem is not the constitution, its the individuals who pass illegal laws who are voted into political office by idiot constituents. you and I need to hold the politicians accountable for their lack of integrity and greed, not berate the constitution for simply existing, and blaming IT for the inperfection of human beings. the only way, now at least, to truly stick to the constitution would be to have an arbiting system that results in expulsion (or vaporation haha)to anyone who violates the structure, then it would work, and that would be the only way for any other system to work as well. that would take some sort of authority though, and you seem to be against that.

          • moremisinformation

            ‘ but the problem is not the constitution, its the individuals who pass
            illegal laws who are voted into political office by idiot constituents’

            The laws passed are not illegal. That’s why they become law. You think they’re illegal because they’re in opposition to the Constitution, in one way or another. But this is the whole point, the Constitution does not prevent, what you call ‘illegal’ laws from being passed – as I’ve said, they’re perfectly legal.

            What’s missing isn’t ‘legal laws’ or an adherence to the Constitution, it’s a morally consistent philosophy. You may enjoy the Non-Agression Principal.

          • marshall

            moremisinformation, you are destroying your argument. You literally proved your point with my point, and you paraphrased what I what I’ve been saying throughout this whole conversation with “What’s missing isn’t ‘legal laws’ or an adherence to the Constitution, it’s a morally consistent philosophy”. If a law is passed that violates the Constitution, it is unconstitutional, and illegal. Illegal doesn’t necessarily mean criminal, it just means not legal. For example, the latest NDAA completely violates Amendemnet IV, but we a citizens and the source of sovereignty in this country have done nothing to mitigate this kind of legislation. Therefore, the problem is twofold: politicians are radically deviating from the original structure (and the executive branch is not doing its job), and we are not holding our leaders accountable for this bad legislation. This shows a lack of moral philosophy on our leaders’ part, and inconsistency in the citizen populace whom are affected by legislation.

    • Calypso_1

      …….. /professional liar/
      “I am a recruiter^ for the Army”

      • marshall

        Haha, yeah ive heard it all. I never lie to anyone, I tell the benefits and the detriments, pros and cons according to their current life situation, and what the daily life is like. It’s all available to research anyway, so there is no reason to lie to anyone. I am a professional though, that is true.

        • Calypso_1

          You’re a peach then & that belies my own & others experiences.

          • marshall

            I think it boils down to exchange of culture: my recruiter didn’t lie to me, so I guess I don’t see a reason to lie. But of course, I wasn’t (and still aren’t) one of those whiney people who are afraid to fight or do “hard” things.

          • Calypso_1

            Recruiter didn’t lie to me (other than covering his actions), he lied ‘for’ me, unbeknownst to myself, when I had insisted on honesty & this created problems

          • marshall

            Ahhhhh, I see. I think you should have requested to work with another recruiter. They used to call Army recruiting the ‘mafia’ of the Army…it’s gotten better, because now, there is more oversight of the process by everyone in the office. I’m sorry that you had a bad experience, but it’s like the police, they aren’t all bad of course, but the few bad ones ruin it for them all.

  • Juan

    The black lady with gold hoop earrings was the best one. She nailed it.
    Well done, Luke:)

    • jasonpaulhayes

      “by preemptive executive orders or whatever” … clearly these people have relevant views.

      • Juan

        Oh, come on, now you’re just being nit picky. So what if she didn’t use that exact and correct terms, she has seen through the Obama psyop. For me, that is more than enough.

        • jasonpaulhayes

          http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Luke_rudkowski

          Libertarian Propagandist, ex-pat, felon, conservative nutbar, christian nationalist, hack ambush journalist, all around terrible person and human paraquat.

          • atlanticus

            Human…paraquat? Aren’t Libertarians pro-weed?

          • moremisinformation

            Libertarian Propagandist? Does that make you anti-liberty? Are you repeating your grocery list?

  • BuzzCoastin

    aMerkins have virtually no say whatsofucking ever
    as to what their masters will do
    never have, never will

    Jesus, pot’s smoked by at least a majority of Amerkins
    and it’s still fucking illegal
    and people are still be hassled and jail for a fucking plant
    land of the free to do what yer told

    • Ted Heistman

      these wars with single digit support basically show the lie of our democracy for what it is.

      • Jin The Ninja

        concur.

  • Ted Heistman

    Army Recruiters are just serving the war machine in a slightly more obvious way. We have all been co-opted into its service in different ways.

    • Juan

      Harsh but true, unfortunately.
      I serve the fucking punishment industry:( But, hopefully not for ever.

  • X.

    Demockeracy.

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