Should Lithium Be Added To Drinking Water To Prevent Suicides?

lithiumMother Nature Network has the latest news on the previously discussed sort-of-logical-yet-profoundly-horrifying concept:

A study carried out in June of 2011 demonstrated that drinking water contaminated with lithium could actually lower suicide rates. So should lithium be added as a supplement to the water supply, as is done with fluoride?

In the study, 6,460 samples of drinking water were tested across 99 districts in Austria. Districts with higher levels of lithium tended to report lower suicide rates. In some areas lithium occurs naturally in the water supply, likely leached out of rocks and stones.

The results weren’t terribly shocking, as lithium has been used for decades to treat depression. This was the first time its effect was measured based on trace amounts within drinking water, however.

37 Comments on "Should Lithium Be Added To Drinking Water To Prevent Suicides?"

  1. Kane VonDoom | Oct 29, 2013 at 11:18 am |

    Remember when certain medicine was prescribed to people on an individual basis while taking into consideration adverse effects based on their personal biochemistry?

    • Calypso_1 | Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 pm |

      Like in the good ol’days when you could get your Li from the soda jerk with a cherry on top?

      Now…we run bi-weekly titration blood level tests.

  2. Chaos_Dynamics | Oct 29, 2013 at 11:53 am |

    Let’s go N2O.

  3. Hadrian999 | Oct 29, 2013 at 12:04 pm |

    suicide is a choice, removing our right to choose no matter if it is a terrible choice is tyranny

    • Jim Pooley | Oct 29, 2013 at 12:39 pm |

      You’re right for the wrong reason.

      For me the problem is dosing us up with Lithium is cheaper and easier than dedicating resources to mental health care and maybe working out why so many people are offing themselves.

      Drugging people to stop them reacting to their environment in a natural way “Ie It’s so shit I want to die/break stuff/change it”

      THAT’s Tyranny

      • Hadrian999 | Oct 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm |

        government “mental health care” would be just as much a system of control as compulsory drugging. it’s about someone else making you what they want you to be

        • Calypso_1 | Oct 29, 2013 at 4:45 pm |

          The vast majority of people could not last 5 min in a room alone w/ a state mental health pt before they would beg to have the person receive forced treatment.

          • could it be that much of mental illness is caused by that forced treatment? or at the least, exacerbated.
            maybe the mentally ill are the proverbial canaries in the coal mine

          • Calypso_1 | Oct 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm |

            …prior to treatment – symptoms*
            treatment – remission of symptoms
            off treatment – return of symptoms

            your 2nd proposition need have no relation to the first.

            *which may include: A/V/T & command hallucinations, extreme thought disorder (both form & content), S/H ideation & action, etc.

          • I often wonder what its gotta be like for someone having a breakdown, especially the schizo. kind involving paranoia and all sorts of strange ideas/experiences, who is being forced into the harsh environment of many institutions w/ strange, often violent people, being forced to take drugs, and being told whats really wrong with you by “experts” who probably have little understanding of what yer going through, not to mention, whats really going on in our reality and how one can go about healing dis-ease. (yes, that was long winded, I know). I imagine someone who’s paranoid and having difficulty trusting people would only have more difficulty trusting others after such a scenario. Especially when yer own loved ones are the ones who called the “authorities”, and who might even be blameworthy in helping to precipitate yer breakdown(like Laing’s schizophrogenic(?) mother).
            My understanding of schizophrenia is largely inspired by R.D. Laing and I cant help but agree with him that modern medicine is really quite ignorant about health and healing, especially concerning schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. I think modern medicine is going in the wrong direction, particularly neuroscience and brainscanning and what-not, which seems to be the rave nowadays for understanding the mind.
            It’s probably cliché by now, but whats needed is a “paradigm shift” in medicine. I think whats called alternative medicine is more on the right track, but I still sense something important missing. I don’t know what that may be, but Im hoping for a huge leap in understanding, soon. My intuition says it may have something to do with Faith

          • Ted Heistman | Oct 30, 2013 at 11:52 am |

            You must not ride the bus much

          • Calypso_1 | Oct 31, 2013 at 10:38 am |

            Greyhound may be a strong exception to the rule : ) Though in that case, I would posit the ratio of typical:atypical mental states is heavily weighted to the latter.

          • Ted Heistman | Oct 31, 2013 at 1:33 pm |

            I was talking local city buses, from what I have seen in places like Seattle, Olympia, Washington and Madison, Wisconsin, Providence Rhode Island, all across California etc. Any mid sized city, its pretty common to see people talking to themselves and acting erratically.

          • Calypso_1 | Oct 31, 2013 at 2:19 pm |

            There is a VR hallucination helmet used to train MH workers in the experience that schizophrenics have. We did a workshop in our city w/ LE where they role played & road a bus route while wearing these and had to experience an arrest in order to respond better to such individuals.
            But as to talking to self and erratic behavior: I was thinking more along the lines of masturbating on people , eating feces or wielding a weapon in such a state. These tend to be far less tolerable.

          • Ted Heistman | Oct 31, 2013 at 2:30 pm |

            I don’t think anybody is arguing that those behaviors are acceptable.

          • Calypso_1 | Oct 31, 2013 at 2:54 pm |

            I agree and it is very sad when a damaged mind has lead to such behavior & that’s why we worked with LE to make sure such persons spent as little time as possible interacting with the legal system.

  4. over2soon | Oct 29, 2013 at 1:43 pm |

    Trent Reznor might have had something when he was writing for that Year Zero ARG, the feds dumping happy chems in the water, so you have to resort to well water to start thinking straight again.

  5. ishmael2009 | Oct 29, 2013 at 2:08 pm |

    “It may not be nice to be good, little 6655321. It may be horrible to be good. And when I say that to you I realize how self-contradictory that sounds. I know I shall have many sleepless nights about this. What does God want? Does God want goodness or the choice of goodness? Is a man who chooses the bad perhaps in some way better than a man who has the good imposed upon him? Deep and hard questions, little 6655321″

    ~ A Clockwork Orange.

  6. DeepCough | Oct 29, 2013 at 3:28 pm |

    …..You’re telling me it’s not in the water supply already?

  7. Lookinfor Buford | Oct 29, 2013 at 4:23 pm |

    Don’t worry, with Government controlled health care, it won’t be long till they just come right out and say “we’re doing it” to save “x dollars”.. Everybody will go, – blink blink – and we’ll all be on Lithium. hooray for government. (note the subdued tone).

  8. Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness | Oct 29, 2013 at 5:34 pm |

    One of the side effects of anti-depressants: SUICIDAL TENDENCIES.

  9. Oh, all bow before our mighty god, the scientific evidence. We shall sacrifice our individuality to it, lest we be called haters of modernity.

  10. I think drinking water should be enhanced with whatever drug available for all sort of benefits. Pure H2O is so 1990ies.

  11. Aaron Lennon Ochs Linn | Oct 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm |

    Makes about as much sense as floride.

  12. Any so-called health professional who endorses this lunacy is a QUACK. And an unethical one at that. How does one control the dosage? How scientific is one-size-fits-all-medicine? How are you planning to get patient histories?

    It sounds like some sick puppy’s Mengele-inspired wet dream.

    “But they meant well . . . “, all the apologists bleated.

  13. fieldingbandolier | Oct 30, 2013 at 7:19 pm |

    Oh please. Lithium hasn’t been used to treat “depression”, it’s been used to treat “bipolar disorder”. The levels in this study can’t be anything like a therapeutic level. Rather, it’s almost certainly associated with a covariate. My guess: upscale (next to mountains, canyons) real-estate/income, where lithium levels are higher, and feelings of desperation are lower.

  14. Willis T. | Oct 30, 2013 at 9:55 pm |

    Shit like this keeps me buying bottled water, IN GLASS BOTTLES.

    • Notquitesane | Nov 1, 2013 at 1:13 pm |

      another benefit for them

    • Dan Williams | Nov 2, 2013 at 8:16 am |

      So, in order to avoid water that has been processed at a water treatment facility, you are going to drink water that has been processed and bottled in a factory? where they use huge amount of energy to create the bottles, caps, and labels? Yes, glass doesn’t use insane amounts of water to create like plastics, so you’re good there, but it’s still far more likely to be processed water.
      Ideally we should get our water from a well (know someone who has land and high-flow well), and/or use a Bio-Sand Filter System. But, that, of course, is not always feasible in urbanized areas.

      Good luck, sir. (genuinely)

  15. gustave courbet | Oct 31, 2013 at 2:48 pm |

    “Mother Nature Network has the latest news on the previously discussed sort-of-logical-yet-profoundly-horrifying concept”

    Sounds like the kind of logic Skynet would use to prevent suicide.

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