Police Attacked by Blood-Covered Boy With Superhuman Strength at ‘LSD Party Gone Bad’

38419428LSD? Several of my Twitter followers said that it was more likely PCP or Bath Salts. What say you, psychonauts of Disinfo?

Via the Marin Independent Journal:

Three young people were arrested and hospitalized, one with injuries, Sunday morning in the wake of what officials described as “a Mill Valley LSD party gone bad.”

Southern Marin Fire paramedics responded around 7:30 a.m. to a 911 call reporting a 16-year-old boy having a seizure at a residence in the 100 block of Reed Boulevard, said Marin County sheriff’s Lt. Doug Pittman.

When the paramedics tried to get in, another 16-year-old boy at the entry gate covered with blood attacked them with what they later described as “superhuman strength,” refusing to let them in, Pittman said. Marin County sheriff’s deputies arrived within minutes to help, Pittman said.

The deputies were confronted by other partygoers, including a combative young girl, and called for backup. During the struggle, the boy spit blood on the responders, Pittman said. Mill Valley, Tiburon, Central Marin and California Highway Patrol officers responded and brought the situation under control, Pittman said.

You might also want to look at this comment in the article’s comment section from “Fee Fee” who claimed to be at the party:

“The Marin IJ is leading other news agencies in spreading misinformation. I was one of the sober attendees at this “party” of eight people, and I was the person who made the 911 call when a boy had a seizure. I witnessed the chaos that followed and the news does not accurately depict what actually happened that morning. 1) The paramedics got into the house without any complications; there was no 16-year-old boy attacking them or blocking their entry at the gate. The boy who had the seizure was attended to immediately without interruptions from other party-goers. 2) The boy who attacked and spit his own blood on other emergency personnel was not the boy who had the seizure, and this occurred in a separate room inside of the house. He was also under the influence of the same substance as the boy who had the seizure (a substance which was not LSD – Marin General hospital later confirmed our suspicions that the substance was an analogue of LSD, a designer drug that mimics the effects of the drug). There were three people who were under the influence of this drug; the boy who had the seizure (16), the boy who spit his own blood on emergency personnel (18), and a girl who also quarreled with emergency personnel (18). 3) There is no such drug as “DMD”. DMT was found and it is in no way similar to ecstasy. ”
In future we would appreciate it if you got your facts straight.

 

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  • Apathesis

    Bath salts? You’re joking, right? Every time it ends up being THC or some other drug, but never bath salts. More media hype and scare tactics..

    • Craig Bickford

      Where are these fake bath salts stories where people are high on THC? LOL.

      • ****

        My cousin knows a guy who took 4 Marijuanas at a party in high school. He tripped really hard and never came back. Now he’s homeless. JUST SAY NO

        • Anthony Cincotti

          My uncles brother in law’s neighbors dog sitters son had the same thing happen! That weed is EVIL!

          Go back to bed with your silliness and stop spreading disinformation. You obviously know nothing about Marijuana and it’s effects. Tripped on MJ? Just idiotic.

          Took 4 Marijuana’s??? Hahahahah…

      • Apathesis

        The “zombie” in Florida only had THC in his system, yet bath salts were initially blamed.

        Also, the guy who ate the dog ingested synthetic cannabis which mimics THC.

        I’m not saying weed caused these incidents, merely pointing out that THC was the only drug found in these people’s systems when bath salts were blamed by the media and their sheep. In other words, the media was totally wrong.

        Do I think weed makes people violent? Hell no. Quite the opposite. These two dude’s I mentioned were probably just nutcases.

    • atlanticus

      As far as I can tell, “bath salts” is a generic term for all sorts of designer chemical-cocktails being concocted from the by-product waste spilling out of China…you wouldn’t even believe how quickly new drugs are being invented and introduced.

      I know you have no clue because you think THC is a drug that people “freak out” on, but honestly, I’m shocked at your ignorance…do some research, or better yet, ask a 15 year old.

      • Apathesis

        The Florida zombie had THC in his system. I’m not saying it caused him to eat the dude’s face because that is bullshit, but that was the only drug in his system even though the media blamed bath salts.

        Furthermore, I don’t think weed causes violent behavior. But it sure does make some people paranoid. Thanks for reading way too far into my post and assuming I was saying THC was to blame when I was merely pointing out that bath salts get blamed and it ends up being some other drug was found in the perpetrator’s system.

        Bonus points for assuming I don’t smoke weed. You’re clueless.

        • MCBG

          From what I recall, the incidents you are talking about had synthetic THC analogues in their system. Which is no way actual THC. And they are called Bath Salts because that is what they labeled them to sell them as, which was is their little attempt at legal loop hole because they can’t sell these drugs for human consumption. Basically any chemical designer drug is sold labeled Bath Salts, or sometimes Plant Food.

          • Apathesis

            The dog eater ingested synthetic THC (“Spice”). The Florida zombie did not and had real THC in his system. And I am well aware that synthetic THC is not real THC.

            My point was bath salts were blamed for incidents when they were never present in the perpetrator’s system. I should have made it more clear in my initial post that while THC and synthetic THC were present in the two cases I later mentioned, I do not believe they were to blame. People do crazy on or off drugs, so who knows what really causes or influences such incidents.

            Furthermore, synthetic THC (a synthetic cannibinoid) is not considered a “bath salt”, which are classified as synthetic cathinones.
            http://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp/ondcp-fact-sheets/synthetic-drugs-k2-spice-bath-salts

          • atlanticus

            “Bonus points for assuming I don’t smoke weed. You’re clueless.”

            “I should have made it more clear in my initial post that while THC and synthetic THC were present in the two cases I later mentioned, I do not believe they were to blame.”

            Yes. You should have made it more clear. Bonus points for assuming I’m a psychic. *eye-roll*

          • MCBG

            There are far more synthetic drugs labeled as “bath salts” than just synthetic cathinones. And the media uses “bath salts” as a catch all for basically all synthetic designer drugs sold as not for human consumption. so you’re upset about bath salts getting a bad rap. But bath salts could be any number of synthetic powdered substances sold as such. Just as synthetic THC could be any number of synthetic cannibinoids, unless they’re gonna identify which specific one, it’s all just as misleading. I really don’t see how this specific detail makes a difference. They could have said they were high on shitty Chinese research chemicals and then they would have been correct either way.

          • Apathesis

            I agree with what you are saying, I just can’t stand the media making wild accusations without any facts or misrepresenting the facts.

  • DeepCough

    Well, this sounds like an open and shut case: kids experience the nasty side effects of an impure, half-assed hallucinogen that was readily available because drug prohibition has made the production of pure-quality LSD illegal and unavailable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1797409890 Liz Burns

    Looks to me as if the woman who contradicted the stories has better hold of her faculties than the rabid creeps in the press.

  • DrDavidKelly

    When they say ‘superhuman strength’ (bcos all the kids have this when high apparently) what do they actually mean … like superman? Did they pick up the ambulance and throw it into outer-space? Just curious …

    • ****

      What they actually mean when they say “superhuman” is “was so fucked up he could no longer feel pain.”

      • DrDavidKelly

        That’s not really ‘superhuman’ is it. Ahhh language it’s like Revlon’s mascara revolution all over again …

    • http://pneumerology.com/ pneumerology

      My house cat could throw superman into outer space if he was pissed off enough.

      • DrDavidKelly

        So could mine if she was high on [insert demonised drug of the moment].

  • Haystack

    If you changed “LSD party” to “alcohol party,” people would ask “How is that even news?”

  • ****

    TL;DR: There’s no way for me to know for sure, but these kids were not on acid.

    1.) I seriously doubt that kids are having LSD “parties” anymore. As far as I know, this went out of fashion 40 years ago when the novelty of the drug had worn off and anti-LSD propaganda had done it’s job. Then again, I pretty much know nothing about what high school kids are doing these days.

    2.) I think I know what these kids were on and it sure wasn’t LSD. Even on the worst trips I’ve ever had (and I’ve had a couple of fucking frightening ones) I never could imagine being combative or angry, ESPECIALLY with police or EMTs. This may just be due to my particular personality, though.

    It has been my experience that once a person separates from their ego with LSD, they forget the mundane struggles and anxieties of the sober world. Imposing any part of your will onto another person seems counterintuitive, and to revert to such a cro-magnon state of blind rage seems completely unthinkable. LSD is one of those drugs that sort of either elevates or moves your consciousness laterally outside of itself, allowing you to look at yourself from an outsider’s perspective. The vast majority of drugs either suppress your consciousness into a state of lulled euphoria, or speed it up to a point of confused and neurotic manicy. Think of it as a pH scale; Heroin at one end and Methamphetamine at the other. These kids were into some heavy shit. The kind of shit that makes you lose control of your behavior. You may lose control of your behavior while under the effects of LSD, but I can promise you that it will most likely not be due to a triggered response to a perceived threat.

    • http://pneumerology.com/ pneumerology

      I’m probably just as out of touch with teenage culture as you, but from back in the day I’d have to agree on the personal experience… large doses of LSD make even simple physical activity difficult. I have seen a few people get pretty disturbed, but never physically violent.

      I can imagine LSD causing the breakdown of the self-imposed inhibitions some people with psycho-emotional problems use to manage their problem. And I can imagine a bunch of really stoned people falling into a sort of mass hysteria similar to a mob. But neither of those sounds likely in this case.

      • ****

        You make a good point that I didn’t consider with people keeping psychosis in check through personal willpower. Someone under this condition would have a very hard time keeping their shit together and hiding their issues behind their ego.

        However, I assume that a person with the cognitive aptitude to have the ability to comprehend their issues and form a set of tools to manage their psychosis would still have the awareness of self required to stop themselves from spitting blood on other people, no matter what their level of LSD intoxication may be.

        Then again, they’re under the effects of psychosis at all times, so…

        • http://pneumerology.com/ pneumerology

          Yeah, we weren’t there and we don’t have much in the way of facts to work with. Matt sort of asked us to consider the possibilities… and it seems that an LSD induced freakout is one of the possibilities… however remote

          • ****

            You’re right, I apologize. I like to smoke and write when I get off work, so I’m not always the most socially perceptive internetjerk. I’m also prone to tangents, which doesn’t help.

          • http://pneumerology.com/ pneumerology

            I appreciate your courtesy (a lot) but I don’t see that you have anything to apologize for. I enjoyed having a civil and intelligent exchange.

  • BuzzCoastin

    > In future we would appreciate it if you got your facts straight.

    it’s not news if they get the facts straight
    truly
    I’ve never heard a news report
    about something that I know from experience
    that vaguely resembles the actual circumstances or “facts”

  • InfvoCuernos

    So what was it? If it wasn’t LSD, was it the DMT, because that doesn’t sound like any DMT reaction I’ve heard of, or was it “2CP” that was sited as causing all sorts of mischief at music festivals? or was it just pain-in-the-ass kids without adult supervision?

    • MCBG

      It’s pretty unlikely from the information provided that anyone would be able to identify what it really was. There was a bunch of kids running around at festivals selling 25-I which was the cause of several deaths. But there are so many of these research chemicals around and so little information about them it could be any of them. Also there are people buying these research chemicals up, and blending them together giving them new names like “rainbow blend” just to add to the confusion, and the danger to unsuspecting/uneducated users. As well as people pressing them into pills and passing them off as ecstacy. Also some of the research chemicals are distributed on blotter paper, even available in that form straight from the distributors. You also can’t entirely rule out LSD, I’ve seen some pretty crazy reactions by mentally unstable people on LSD, and even mushrooms. And kids scared of getting in trouble, high on anything might quite possibly freak out and attack in attempt to escape authorities. The girl says it was identified as an LSD analogue, but I find that to be less likely than a research chemical easily obtained over the internet. I don’t see why a chemist would bother making an LSD analogue which is clearly under the analogue act and would have the same consequences as making actual LSD.

  • Greenleaf Stickybud

    A strong dose of LSD will make you laugh. A really strong dose will give you “spaghetti legs” meaning you cant walk. Unless you are psychotic to start with, LSD will never make you violent. Clearly these kids were smoking something you shouldn’t smoke…

  • TVDinner

    Sounds like 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, or 25E-NBOMe. Legislators will use this story to effect a blanket ban on scheduled drug analogues.

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