Jeb Bush’s Vatican-Obama Conspiracy Theory

Jeb Bush tweetIt’s hard to remember sometimes, sitting in New York, that Jeb Bush is still capable of engaging the media, but apparently CBS Miami still has a soft spot for him, right down to his latest musings about President Obama, Obamacare, and the closing of the U.S. Embassy in the Vatican:

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush has not typically been one to repeat wild conspiracy theories in the past. But that’s exactly what he did this week when he repeated a wild story making the rounds on the fringes of the right wing.

“Why would our President close our Embassy to the Vatican?” Jeb Bush tweeted. “Hopefully, it is not retribution for Catholic organizations opposing Obamacare.”

There are several factual problems with the statement made by Bush, namely the United State isn’t closing its Embassy to the Vatican.

No foreign country has an embassy in Vatican City proper because there isn’t room. Foreign embassies are actually located in the city of Rome, according to the U.S. State Department.

What the United State is doing is moving its Vatican embassy in Rome from its current location, which was described by the State Departmentas a “decidedly ugly, slab-sided, unprepossessing building in Rome.”

The new U.S. Embassy to the Vatican will be on the compound of the U.S. Embassy to Italy. The Embassy to the Vatican will have its own building, own entrance and be separate from the Embassy to Italy and separate from the U.S. Mission to the U.N. office in Rome, according to the State Department…

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25 Comments on "Jeb Bush’s Vatican-Obama Conspiracy Theory"

  1. Has Jeb Bush seen the fnords?

    BTW, he’s supposed to be smarter than W.

  2. Should we a take a second to just take in the sight of an Evangelical
    Christian pretending not to despise the Catholic Church because it might
    be politically useful later? Or just dive right in to the meat of it
    and ask why we have an embassy with the headquarters of an international
    child rape syndicate?

    • Calypso_1 | Nov 30, 2013 at 9:37 am |

      Gun runnin & money laundering come to mind as well.

    • Liam_McGonagle | Nov 30, 2013 at 10:28 am |

      When my parents married it was not allowed for a P to marry a C.

      But you know how it is. The times they were a changin’ and now everyone’s PC. It’s called political expediency. All religions eventually* devolve into political parties.

      *No, actually; surprisingly QUICKLY.

    • Ted Heistman | Nov 30, 2013 at 10:58 am |

      They aren’t really Evangelicals, but his wife really is Mexican.

      • You’re right, I was not aware of Jeb’s denominational affiliation. I had incorrectly assumed that the rest of the family shared Dubya’s denominational affiliation.

      • The Well Dressed Man | Dec 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm |

        Nope. This is the new Southern Strategy. Only way the Republicans can survive is to team up with the socially conservative Catholics, which means learning Spanish.

        • Ted Heistman | Dec 1, 2013 at 3:53 pm |

          no, I know. Its just I am trying not to be too cynical, just in case

  3. Liam_McGonagle | Nov 30, 2013 at 10:26 am |

    I thought Obama closed it because the Pope condemned capitalism.

  4. lilbear68 | Nov 30, 2013 at 10:42 am |

    ahhh religion, it was created and continues today for the sole purpose to keep the poor from murdering the rich

    • As good an explanation of the ethics theory of Divine Command as any I’ve ever heard.

    • it’s a good thing we have secular democratic capitalism to save us from the evils of religion, no? if religion maintained control of nations we probably would have holes in the ozone layer, the annihilation of the natural world for the sake of profit and ovens that priests incinerated Jews in!

    • Tuna Ghost | Dec 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm |

      I’m going to go ahead and guess you didn’t study anthropology very hard at university and learned it from edgy comedians instead

      • lilbear68 | Dec 2, 2013 at 7:38 pm |

        your point being? and I should care why?

        • Tuna Ghost | Dec 6, 2013 at 12:10 am |

          Because a basic anthropology course would have taught you how and why religion developed the way it did throughout human history, which would inform you in regard to what function it was/is supposed to serve in a believer’s life. Contrary to what the admittedly hilarious Patton Oswalt claims, the origins of organized spiritual belief systems do not lie in a plot by the powerful to control the weak.

  5. people from England are angles (angleland) and saxons(Wessex,essex,sussex ).you rednecks are not.THE correct term for Bush and all his countrymen is not WASPS its REDNECKS

  6. ignore it… typical fear mongering to confuse the masses…please don’t let this get you excited

  7. Dingbert | Dec 1, 2013 at 2:34 pm |

    I detect a slight against the Scotch-Irish, since we make up the bulk of “redneck” Appalachia.

    Redneck has three possible origins, all decidedly anti-WASP:
    -Scottish Presbyterian dissenters
    -Outdoor workers’ sunburned necks (poor, non-slaveholding farmers–Scotch-Irish)
    -Red handkerchiefs identifying unionized miners (WV coal wars–also includes Italians and E. Europeans)

    The Bushes are rich English-German Yankees, which fits the Germanic nature of WASPs just fine. In the South, WASPs were especially hated by “rednecks:” they bought up the good Valley land and then used slaves to farm it. Very offensive to Appalachian self-sufficient sensibilities. We got stuck as unwilling settlers of rocky soil and workers in brutal, WASP-owned mines. Hence, Scotch-Irish WVA gave the finger to WASPy VA in the US Civil War.

    Fun fact: Obama is more Scotch-Irish than the Bushes.

    End totally irrelevant topic hijack.

  8. The Well Dressed Man | Dec 1, 2013 at 3:03 pm |

    The Bushes are descended from old Yankee roots, not to mention the Walkers. W’s whole Texan drawl was pretty exaggerated for someone with an Ivy League background.

  9. Ted Heistman | Dec 3, 2013 at 1:29 pm |

    Basically you are saying that you hate working class white people from the South, who work outdoors doing physical labor and get sun burned. Because basically you feel superior to them because you think of yourself as higher class. So you are a prejudiced snob. So the worst insult you can come up with is to call Bush a redneck. In reality he is a simply playing a t.v. role. So the joke is on you. His schtick fooled you apparently.

    • Tuna Ghost | Dec 6, 2013 at 12:14 am |

      I don’t normally agree with you, or even respect your opinions on most things, but props for defending southerners who have earned money doing physical labor. I didn’t pick up an accent growing up in the south because of the stigma attached to it, which is something I deeply regret as an adult (it still pops up when I’m drinking).

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